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10/7/11 1:09 A

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I started SP at 138 lbs in October 2010. My goal weight was supposed to be 125, which I reached in January 2011. I have stayed at 125 (give or take a few pounds) ever since.


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10/6/11 8:35 A

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Woo hoo! We're on the map!

The post about the role models among us made it to "Popular Blog Post" territory!
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Go US!!!!!
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Here's to the increased visibility and mutual support of maintainers!
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Edited by: 4A-HEALTHY-BMI at: 10/6/2011 (08:36)
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10/5/11 9:42 P

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I think weight lose is easier for those of us that didn't have as much to lose. However, I think maintenance is difficult to everyone. I know that my 40 lbs has come and gone several times times and that's not healthy. I've now learned how to change my lifestyle, hard for anyone, and have maintained now since last spring.

That's the great thing about this group. No matter how much someone has lost, everyone is still here to support them. Five pounds, fifty pounds or even more...the support is awesome!

I also like how when others share, it helps me understand their situation more. Once again, the support that I can give and that which I receive is fabulous.


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10/5/11 3:16 P

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What you called "life happened again" is definitely at the heart of it.
I've made the mistake so many times to do too much, our society encourages this at every corner: kids and career, school and job, everyone has their multi-tasking issues in life. This is NOT normal. Of course along with all this business and probably lack of sleep stress levels go up and there are the hormones to help pack on the pounds, even if we DO manage to eat and exercise properly.
This is where I've been going (and still on the road): I need to do less, sometimes a LOT less to keep everything in balance. There is a price to pay, maybe a smaller home, less stuff, maybe even different friends, a different job, enjoying the little things that are free like a sunset ...

Birgit

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10/5/11 2:28 P

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Here's a scatterplot showing the data we have for years maintained vs pounds lost

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I don't see any obvious trends. I just think it means we don't have enough data to see a pattern, if there even is one...

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10/5/11 11:58 A

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I'm not very good at getting inside the heads of others, but speaking for myself, I seem to need an athlete mentality to stay on point and keep from drifting. Which is a drastic change from my former habits! LOL

To even be at a BMI over 50 you have to have exceedingly poor habits to begin with. It's hard to move at that size. That's where the water aerobics and chair exercises come in...
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That is a really interesting observation about folks who are vulnerable to weight gain because they don't have the knowledge, tools, skills, and habits to avoid it.

And I totally agree that everyone benefits from healthy habits and behaviors.

In my case I guess I just sort of gave up. I first gained 100+ in my late teens as a result of working two jobs while going to school and being in the "future obesity" vulnerable state. Despite having an active interest in road cycling, swimming, martial arts, and cross-country skiing. It just wasn't enough. I became obese at over 250 lbs.

Then in my 20s I gradually worked it back down to 140-150 while being super active (added horseback riding and softball and running to the above interests) and tracking food on an exchange-type program (like old WW).

Then life happened again (long hours in grad school) and I gained it all back plus almost 100 more. Which was frustrating because I KNEW what to do and how to do it, I'd done it BEFORE, but something was broken inside and I just wasn't DOING it. So I don't even know what to call that sort of weight gain. I don't think it fits into the naive category you described. It's something else.

It has to do with fatigue from the food tracking and exercise, and getting wrapped up in other things. This is why I don't think the answer for me is to run off and find new interests. When I did that before I lost focus on the food and exercise behaviors and the results were devastating.

I watch BL too. It helps remind me where I came from and reinforces my determination and behaviors. (I was in such denial that I really need that very graphic sort of slap in the face - when I was at my heaviest I really had no idea how bad the situation really was)

Edited by: 4A-HEALTHY-BMI at: 10/5/2011 (12:30)
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10/5/11 11:40 A

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I think you are right about the fact that people who lose very large amounts of weight needed to make much bigger life style changes than people who only lost 30 lbs or so.
I also know a lot of people who seem to be able to do what you describe, just watch their weight for a week to fit back in the jeans. Many are actually living very unhealthy life styles of not exercising and eating mostly junk food combined with a lot of stress. Their percentage of body fat is sometimes higher than it looks and their percentage of muscle and their endurance is worse than you would think. When any additional stress factors enter in, pregnancy, midlife hormone changes, lengthier illness, divorce etc. everything falls apart and suddenly they gain a lot of weight. These people are what I would call the future obese. Many of them were just never taught healthier habits. I used to be in this group. My BMI was below the overweight range (under 30). I was a little chubby but still in the "normal" clothes sizes. That was almost 30 years ago. Then I moved to another country, no family support, few friends, felt lonely, and suddenly I was 50 lbs. overweight. In retrospect it was predictable. I had never learned healthy habits as a kid.
So this was a long story to say that even people who only have relatively little weight to lose are MUCH better off learning very healthy habits and making BIG life style changes to avoid ever spiraling down into obesity.
I was watching the Biggest Loser last night and I have to say I can empathize as much with the people who have 200 pounds to lose as the ones who have 50-60 lbs. to lose.
I understand that people who have much more to lose may need more medical and other types of help to get started.

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10/5/11 1:16 A

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There is a range of weight loss scenarios, some of which require minor "lifestyle changes" and others that require very large ones.

The NWCR only requires that people have lost at least 30 lbs deliberately and keep it off for a year in order to report themselves as "maintainers."

I imagine it is easier to consider "loss" and "maintenance" the same thing if the amount removed is around 30 lbs. At that end of the extreme there may be many people who don't even think of themselves as weight losers or maintainers. They may be like some of my friends and coworkers who seem to be able to self-regulate their size by eating a little less for a week or so until their jeans fit comfortably again.

Removing half of your body weight involves a more distinct difference, I think. You're not going to remove that much fat without a deliberate and willful effort that involves very large changes in habit and a proportional amount of effort to make those changes stick. In my own case I really do need to hang around weight loss forums because it helps me stay focused on the behaviors that enable me to control my size.

I'd love to know what the maintenance rates are for folks who have removed 100+ lbs. I failed to maintain the first time I lost 100+ in my 20s.

Edited by: 4A-HEALTHY-BMI at: 10/5/2011 (10:23)
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10/3/11 11:35 P

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Thanks for the link! Great blog!
This brought an idea to my mind: Could it be that only 5 percent of the people who "went on a diet" to lose weight were able to keep it off? Whoever is keeping these statistics has no way of knowing about people who did not join some program to reduce their weight. I know of many successful maintainers who decided to change their life style and never saw a distinction between weight loss mode and maintenance mode. I would bet that of the people who START by changing their life style (even with little baby steps at first) the long-term success rate is way over 50 percent. Those types of people often don't hang around weight loss forums because they are busy with all the fun things they do.
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10/3/11 5:11 P

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@DONNAEDA

WTG, pushing those unwanted extra bits back off again, rather than throwing up your hands and eating whatever you want. It takes a lot of courage to do that.

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10/3/11 5:00 P

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Your blog is profoundly inspiring. Thank you so much. All maintainers should read it. Thanks, 4AHealthyBMI!! -Marsha

Marsha's Keys to Success = Tracking! Super Foods! Step Up Cardio! And most important: Quit Quitting!!


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I maintained my weight for 3 years and recently regained 27 pounds, but now in the process of taking that off and getting back to goal. The new points plus system of WW is great and now I am eating more and taking it off to boot.

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10/3/11 4:32 P

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Thanks for putting in the link. Great blog!

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10/3/11 2:09 P

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Here's one of the reasons I like celebrating our maintenance anniversaries. It provides a list of role models.

Blog post about it, here:
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