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I was looking for a good maintenance calculator and I found this:
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Edited by: DENISEFULLER at: 9/23/2011 (14:14)
I started SP at 138 lbs in October 2010. My goal weight was supposed to be 125, which I reached in January 2011. I have stayed at 125 (give or take a few pounds) ever since.


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Caroljean, what a great thought! I always have to reach up and bend down for the stuff I get at the grocery store because I rarely want to buy the stuff at eye level. I may start putting things in handheld baskets rather than pushing a cart around the store.
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All of these posts remind me of a friend who can make almost any task into a "workout." For instance, she bring in her groceries one item at a time. It got me thinking about not being tied to multi-tasking, but to finding extra trips up and down the stairs as useful for my health.

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Healthy, I had a good laugh over your washing machine post when I read it, just what I needed.

Next time I go into a rant at work because our information system is crashing I'll put it in a subprogram on my fitbit and count it as Cardio.

We need a new category--"Ranting at IT."



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There is more to heating with wood than chopping it. You have to carry about 4 giant loads into the house every day (and up or down the stairs depending on where the stove is). And you have to shovel ash and swap that out every 4-5 days. It is very heavy, dirty work, which is why I finally had gas fires installed. I also remember when I was a kid, that all utility washtubs had a washboard molded into the concrete side, and we actually used it. It's hard on clothes though. And wringing it out is a bear. And it took forever to dry on the line. Why, I remember when we wanted to change a channel we had to get up and turn a dial. And when the phone rang we had to run to the one phone in the house. But the vacuum is just as heavy as it used to be, and buckets of water are still heavy. I still have to haul that stuff around a couple times a week. There's plenty of physical labor available if you want it.

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So very true. Especially because there's no way a washboard would require a $400 service call. (Or it would have to be one d4mn amazing washboard!)

I do have a manual push mower. Lent it to a friend though, and it came back jammed. I need to get the Amish guy around here to look at it. And I do have panniers for my bike but it's 15 miles to work (and the nearest store). I'd be dead if I had to get my groceries that way. LOL

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That was a lovely post. emoticon
But just think if you had not replaced the washing machine and used the old-fashioned washboard, what a great way to build your upper body strength.
Now if we all got a manual lawn mower, took the bike for grocery shopping, chopped fire wood for a wood stove ...

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Yeah. I'm sure I can burn a considerable amount of calories yelling.

Like I was doing last night at my broken washing machine. After I lost half a day from work waiting for the repair guy and dropped over $400 on the repair.

It was just stubbornly sitting there, acting broken during our loud, one-sided discussion. Which ended in violence. Which I'm sure also burned a fair number of calories, but it was unplanned so I wasn't wearing my HR monitor and didn't track it. LOL

It was a therapeutic dismantlement. I should count it as "circuit training" since it involved a mixture of lifting something heavy and cardio.
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The good news is that the place I had bought it (and failed to repair it) managed to bring me a new one today and credit most of the repair toward the new one.

So now I have clothes again. (I was out of underwear and had to wear bike shorts and a singlet under my clothes to work today. It's been a long week.)

Note to self: Washers are like cars. Once they start having weird electrical problems, the appliance should be replaced. Not repaired. And please, for the love of God, remember to buy a surge protector to put between the 120V coming out of the wall and the new washer.
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And yelling at the kids! emoticon

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I know, right?

LOL

I think singing is on there too.

OK, I just checked. Singing isn't on there. But it probably should be.

Acting is. So is "Stagehand - Theatre"

I sure hope "Massage work" means GIVING the massage and not that you're burning calories RECEIVING the massage!

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Believe it or not, "Playing an Instrument" is listed as a legitimate cardio activity.

Who knew?

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Also, if there is something I do frequently, I save it to favorites and then I can access it quickly.
I think the cleaning one is called "heavy cleaning."

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Here's how I got there:

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You can also search for specific terms.

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4A-HEALTHY-BMI,

You said SP includes some forms of housework and yard work in their exercise tracker. I tried to look through everything pertaining to exercise on SP and couldn't find the full list you alluded to. Where should I look?

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Check out apps for your phone that make it an exercise timer, calorie counter and coach.

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"Thin does not equal healthy and that's where exercise comes in."
That's definitely the case. In addition some people eat right and still can't be thin because of hormonal issues. In those cases exercise can also often make a big difference, and so can adequate sleep.
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Rosewand, great post! I couldn't have said it any better. Maintenance is not at all about deprivation but about full enjoyment of food, exercise, life. emoticon

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I do like my apps...
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I don't really follow the grandmother relationship. I have 2 grandmothers who lived very similar lives, one has been overweight all of my life and the other is thin as a rail. They both lead hard lives in blue collar families with nothing much in this world. So I don't know if I can buy the grandmother correlation here.

Increased rates of obesity boils down to one very simple fact. The availability of cheap, high calorie food. Daily calorie consumption has risen commensurate with obesity figures. It's hard to deny that level of correlation.

I think, as 4A mentions, exercise is a distant, distant second. Eat right and I think you can be "thin". Thin does not equal healthy and that's where exercise comes in.

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I've just scanned all the really interesting replies and will read in more detail later.

I have also thought this afternoon about "gear," especially if you are a gear and techie kind of person--they call me gadget girl at work.

If one can afford such, it is a good motivator--at least for me.

So, for me.

the recently purchased iPhone with Sparkpeople, etc. apps
the fitbit
Reebok workout pants with built in resistance bands
MBT (Masai Barefoot Technology) walking shoes--Sketchers copied these, they are much better, you can check out their website.

Does this kind of stuff motivate you?

Anyone use MBT's?

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LOL.

I don't track anything the way SP wants me to. I say, if it works for you (and it seems to have for almost 40 years!) then go for it.

Besides, their exercise calorie estimates are way off. The flat water kayaking one in particular is way too high. So I don't think you're missing much.

As far as my experience goes, controlling my size really boils down to about 90-95% eating control. The exercise just changes how I move, how strong I am, how much endurance, etc.

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For me, maintenance is about finding a natural relationship with food and
movement. During our weight loss phase, we are so focused on change.
Now we seek balance In our lives. That is a big shift. We our learning to
trust our bodies, our food patterns,our new behaviors. First we asked
ourselves to change unhealthful behaviors; now we ask ourselves for
consistency over time.

I have rediscovered the joy of food and the pleasure of eating. This
may sound contradictory, but when I was overweight , at some level,
I was always aware that eating was keeping me fat and depriving me of
so much that is important. I truly had a love-hate relationship with food.
That fear is mostly gone. Now I am free to celebrate food in all its glory.
I have become passionate about cooking, deeply partaking in the flavors,
the beauty of foods, and the joys of sharing them with others.

Normally, we think that dieting and maintenance are about deprivation.
In this process I have discovered that the real deprivation was in staying fat.
I was missing so much that I wanted from life. Now, I have re-gifted
myself with all these benefits while enjoying eating even more.

In this new paradigm, I realize I can have it all after all as long as
I stay in balance with food, movement and health. And it is much
easier than I would have ever though. Not that the road is always smooth.
Au contraire, it gets really rocky at times, But now I more easily find my
way back to balance and harmony. I am still learning this new way of being.
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I asked Spark's help about this. They said that "very active" and their other designations include all housework and normal activities, so housework doesn't count. Gardening does, but not vacuuming, moving furniture, all the stuff that I do every week to keep my house clean. I count it anyway as minutes because I don't use their calorie recommendations (I am an exchange counter which is the easy substitute for counting calories), but they want exercise broken down into cardio and strength, which is more than I want to do. I seldom sit still in any case. I can't even watch 15 mins of TV without getting up to do something. It works for me even though I can't track it the way Spark wants me to.

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Nell,

SP DOES include some forms of housework and yard work in their exercise tracker:

Heavy Cleaning
Mowing Lawn: Push, Power
Mowing Lawn: Push, hand
Chopping Wood
Farm Work: general
Gardening
Moving: carrying boxes
Painting
Raking Lawn
Shoveling Snow

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That implies to me that they would have considered your grandmother to be "exercising."

Since I work a desk job 40 hrs/week and like to engage in some fairly extreme sports as hobbies, I need to do dedicated exercise M-Th to keep myself in condition for the weekends.

Perhaps your grandmother would not have been interested in riding a bicycle 100 miles in one day or padding a strenuous Class III-IV river, even if she had the time. I am, however, and I need to do specific exercise to support those activities.

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I just regained 27 pounds after losing 75 pound total weight. I know why, stopped tracking, didn't exercise and quit drinking my water. I find that being on WW is a lifetime endeaver, there is no quitting if you want to keep the pounds from coming back. I am back at WW and took off 5 pounds this week.

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In the old days there weren't any gyms outside of schools, yet rampant obesity is modern. More people run, work out, zumba, lift weights, things my grandmother never even HEARD of, yet more people are fat. Back then you walked everywhere....there weren't any cars. You didn't eat between meals, because everything had to be prepared, and who had time to prepare snacks? What with milking, planting and plowing, cleaning, three meals for a family was too much. Laundry meant a tub, a washboard and a line. Cleaning meant mopping, scrubbing on all fours, and beating rugs. She never did a situp or use balls and bands. Yet according to Spark's definition, my grandmother who did all that was NOT exercising. Go figure. Grandma never wondered if today was strength or cardio, she just kept doing her work, and never overweight a day in her life. I think we make too big a deal of it. Just keep moving, lifting, carrying, walking, climbing stairs carrying stuff. That's how I stay thin. Hard to put that on a chart, though.

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This sounds similar to the way I approach exercise (and health in general) in the sense that I do it in order to improve my performance in the things I like to do (white water kayaking mostly, although if there isn't any available I'll ride my road bike, XC ski, paddle on flat water, snowboard, or something like that.)

I aim for a high strength/weight ratio by maintaining my strength (exercise) and controlling my weight (eating).

I'm limited in activities; I have severe knee arthritis due to an injury when I was a teenager. As I have aged this has prevented me from continuing to enjoy things that involve impact on the joint (walking, running, alpine skiing, hiking, backpacking, Kendo, Aikido etc.)

So yeah, I do go to 6 actual exercise classes M-Th (a mixture of cardio and strength). I do them so I can play hard safely on the weekends. I don't think they help me keep weight off. They frequently make me want to eat.

What they do accomplish, however, is to ensure that my heart, lungs, and muscles are up to the task when I demand things of them on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday.

I have to control what I eat so that the weight part of the equation doesn't overwhelm the strength part. As far as size control goes, I think 90-95% of it is eating control. So that agrees with what NELLJONES is saying.

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Bonita,
I agree completely with you about being of help to others. Not only does it increase the total amount of good done, it also makes us feel so much better about ourselves. Ultimately weight maintenance is about so much more than physical health, it involves every part of us including our physical, mental, emotional and spiritual selves. Music can harmoniously connect these parts in a beautiful way. I'm a guitar player, too, and I also like to do things with my horse (riding and groundwork) with music.

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MJREIMERS and Nell, you both bring up an important point: What counts as exercise?
Many people count only hours at the gym or high-intensity (aerobic) exercise. But even the benefit of walking around or doing some kind of house or yard chore is much better than sitting. I wonder if people who move around all day doing even very low intensity stuff are not better off than people who have an 8 hour/day desk job and go to the gym or run for 1 hour/day. I think it is important to become aware of this because it is of no benefit to us if we feel guilty for not having "exercised". I would argue that if we have not found a type of exercise that we truly enjoy (even in bad weather, even with a slight cold or mild headache) then we have not looked in enough places, yet.
My favorite kind of exercise was originally horseback riding. It has been fun even when it's cold, wet, hot or when I'm a little tired. At some point I realized that I could be a much better rider if I lose 20 more lbs. (horses do care how much they carry) and that my balance was much better if I had better core strength. I realized that I could do a better job training my horse in a positive, motivational way if I ran next to her sometimes and our mare bonded to me better that way, too. So one thing led to another and now I'm a trail runner as well as a trail rider. Horseback riding also led me to try Aikido because the centering techniques that are important in Martial Arts are also essential to good riding.
When my daughter started on the swim team I became aware of how beneficial swimming is as cross training and indulged in a few private lessons. When she wanted to go to the skating rink in the winter I joined in and found that there are plenty of people in their 50's and older who skate for fitness and for fun. I also learned that there are people in their 70's who run their first marathon. I could go on...
If you haven't found a type of exercise you truly enjoy try at least 20 different sports and include some that are not typically used for weight loss. Otherwise you could miss out on a lot of fun in life and what a shame that would be. emoticon

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Bonita, you are so right. I've always heard that the only way to keep something is to give it away. Helping others on their journey is the best way to stay on it ourselves.

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Good topic!

I have nothing scientific to add right now, but some thoughts.

I am sure we have all developed our toolkits to help us maintain...

One of my biggest favorites is daily weigh in, in the morning. In fact, I do remember reading articles that daily weighers are part of the "magic 5%" who are able to keep the weight off. Scales, as long as you use the same scale every day, do not lie. They will give you immediate feedback so you can decide, as a responsible adult, how and what to eat during the day.

I also support exercise, or at least movement. I too believe that our bodies were made to move and spend as much time as I can on my feet and in motion. Kind of easy when I care for a spouse and a big house! Plus formal cardio and weights of course.

My last thought (for now) is expanding our ideas of maintenance to include more than weight and physical fitness. How are we maintaining our presentation as we move through the world every day? Are we being of help to someone/something every day? Are we doing our part to repair the world? This perspective comes from both a faith and a professional (social worker) background.

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I don't formally exercise at all. But then neither did my grandmother. I was the only fat person in my family (my father called me Lardbucket because I was so unusual) and none of them exercised. They just never wanted to overeat. I have maintained by controlling my food intake for most of 40 years.

I read an article in the paper a little over a year ago about how exercise can dampen someone's ability to lose. You can measure pretty exactly how much you eat, but you cannot measure how much you expend. Most of the charts indicating calorie expenditure are overly optimistic, and too many people exercise in order to be able to eat MORE, and that all too often leads to failure to lose. My son the dietician hears it all the time in his practice: "I swam for an hour every day which is _____calories so I could have dessert. Why am I not losing?" I am active, a fidgeter, a walker, but not a formal exerciser. I do, however, eat pretty much the same as when I was losing, with but a little more, even after 40 years.

When I finally joined WW, I had someone tell me how to eat. It's funny that I had to be taught, like arithmetic, something that everyone else in my family just automatically knew. They knew when to put down their forks, I had to measure it out or I'd keep eating. In WW I learned that that was just fine if that's what it took. WW also gave me the cheering section as I lost weight, with ladies clapping every time I told them I DIDN'T have ice cream with the kids. The hardest part about maintaining was learning to do those things without the cheering section.

Here on Spark I found my cheering section again, and THAT is what keeps me going with a smile. Just having a team for people who aren't looking for that weekly loss, but still watching diet is SO important!! I need the "attagirl"s.

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Thanks for starting this!

I'm all about figuring out what works - especially from the peer-reviewed scientific perspective. The more evidence-based strategies and tools we can design, the better off we are, I think. It's one reason I revised our team goals; to bring them in line with the top predictors and behaviors associated with maintenance from the NWCR studies.

I'd love to see what we come up with as a group.

I've been collecting information on the team links for a while - feel free to browse, pick what looks interesting, add to them, etc.

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Here are some links and commentary copied and pasted from the other thread where this one came from:


Here is one place you can start with the Biggest Loser data:
www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_jo
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The data come from a MSNBC feature that is no longer online.
today.msnbc.msn.com/id/28239000
It was published on 12/1/2009. I believe the last season showed some of them and actually mentioned their current weight as of winter 10/11. You might be able to watch Hulu Plus and get some numbers from that. They don't make it easy to check up on the contestants, unfortunately.

Here's my recent followup to that column, with the new maintenance definition I got from the Stevens et. al. paper:
ikeepitoff.com/2011/09/maintenancede
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There is another issue I ran into when investigating the Biggest Loser contestants as examples of maintenance. Pete Thomas in particular said, "Also remember that the finale weight for us contestants is not our 'goal' weight. It is our competition weight. Same as a wrestler, boxer etc."

I think he has a valid point. I would like to see more of them with a BMI under 30, however.

The National Weight Control Registry has long term info (on regular non-celeberity maintainers :o) )....
www.nwcr.ws/Research/default.htm
Some basic stats are on that page, and links to the research findings are at the bottom.

If you want summaries of NWCR findings (and of some other research groups), you can also get some here:
ikeepitoff.com/category/understandin
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So true, Houndlover1. I don't exercise a lot, about 30 minutes a day, but I do a lot of barn chores. I'm sure that adds up to way more than 30 minutes. Also, riding horses is a great workout for the entire body. Not to mention walking the pasture to get one to work! emoticon

I'll admit I never thought of the smelling while cooking aspect. It makes sense and that is something that my family is lacking. We make a couple of big, sit down meals and then eat "must go" the rest of the time. All four of the kids are in activities that keep us running. I'm proud to say that we are eating at home a lot more. No more running through fast food because of time restrictions.

Great thread. I'm interested to see what others have to say. Thanks for starting it.

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The thought that keeps coming back to my mind is EXERCISE, and lots of it. It seems to me that that the human body (and that of higher animals) is designed to move. Even 100 years ago and in all of human history people had to move to survive because a lot of movement was required to have enough food. Movement is not only required to maintain normal weight but also to keep joints functioning, circulation normal and many other functions of the body.
We may think we have figured out how to eat regularly and well without working hard physically but maybe it just is not possibly in the long run without making somewhat unnatural efforts. Maybe two to three hours of daily exercise (even the low-impact type) is essential for our well-being just like oxygen, water, sunshine and sleep.
Maybe sitting down to meals in a social, family-like setting is essential for our emotional health and the lack of it will lead to using food in an unhealthy manner.
Maybe eating foods that have been changed significantly from their original form through creating genetically modified organisms, fertilizing with man-made fertilizers that are very different from natural ones, spraying with man-made insecticides and herbicides, processing food in many different ways does not allow our bodies to recognize what we eat as food. Maybe this leads our bodies to continually search for real nutrients that our bodies are lacking.
Maybe enjoying the short-term pleasure to eat food that we have not made the effort to prepare which means that we did not smell it while it was being prepared changes the way our brain processes the experience of eating.
Maybe we become like the people we surround ourselves with and success in maintaining will always require a support group as long as more than half of the people in our families, in our schools, at our jobs and in our neighborhood are overweight or obese.
In my work as a dog trainer I have observed something about people's pets: Most people are not aware or claim to not be aware that their dogs and cats are overweight. Even vets, who have charts hanging on their wall to bodyscore companion animals frequently miss milder cases of obesity in animals, pointing out problems to owners only in severe cases. We get used to a certain look and what we see all the time becomes the new normal.

Any thoughts?
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This thread is for all those who are interested in learning more about weight maintenance. You can provide links to research, share experiences and discuss different view points. Anything that you think contributes to finding the answer of how to maintain weight, health and quality of life.
I'm hoping that we can at some point start a longer-term challenge of weight maintenance that will give all of us a lot of information on what works.
If necessary we can always start separate threads on different aspects of maintenance.

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