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11/3/10 2:34 P

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It drives me nuts that you cannot update your spark page w/o adjusting your ticker if your current weight is under your ticker.

My goal weight, suggested by SP was 116. I have been maintaining at 106 for over a year.. You bet your booty I would LOVE to show that!





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11/3/10 2:24 P

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Thank you Annie! Spark needs to make their Stage 5 just as rewarding as the earlier stages.

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11/3/10 12:53 P

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I am at goal and maintaining. Thanks to my friends on SparkPeople and in the real world who motivate me every day.

My healthy BMI weight range is a generous 65kg to 55kg. My Spark goal is 60kg.


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11/3/10 12:45 P

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I emailed Coach Jen directly about this today and she has passed the request on to the techies.

Fingers crossed.

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11/2/10 10:56 P

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I agree with the comments about those in maintenance. I would like to set the threshold. I guess I like to keep things on a tighter leash than some, I want to stay within +/- 2.5 lbs. I believe right now I would freak out if I jumped up by 5.

I really don't like that the ticker show no one below goal but I equally dislike that I don't count as within goal when I am within a 1 or so of goal.

Edited by: WILLDO01 at: 11/2/2010 (22:58)
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11/2/10 5:25 P

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I agree wholeheartedly with the last few posts. I have just altered my ticker to show my maintenance range and added an explanation at the start of my page.

I have also asked previously on various forums for adaptation to recognise maintenance. One of my suggestions was an additional ticker for length of time in maintenance at or under goal.

According to tickers NO-ONE on SP is under goal yet maintenance under goal is the best advert for SP and proof that it works.

I love SP and am profoundly grateful to everyone here but it would be great if these glitches could be sorted.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

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11/1/10 7:15 P

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My problem with the ticker is a bit of pride, as well... I don't just want five pounds above, I want to SEE that I have dropped those 70 pounds... and that I am five pounds below my goal! Ticker, ticker, what to do with the ticker...

I don't just want it for the pride, though, I want it to give hope to others who are still WORKING on that 70 or 80 pounds, that some of us DID it and are maintaining the drop!

Probably the wrong thread to whine in, but there, I did anyway. emoticon emoticon

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11/1/10 6:14 P

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We were discussing this on another board. Seems a bunch of team leaders have been trying to get Spark to change the ticker for maintainers as part of their Stage 5 plan, but no one at Spark is listening. It should be goal in the middle with 5 pounds on either side. That way you can actually record the normal maintenance daily bounce.

I have just (at the suggestion of others), made my "goal" my actual weight and put my real goal in my signature line. That's a lot of juggling just to accomplish something that is easy in my diary.

Maybe we need a Spark Petition to get them to recognize that losing the weight is just the first battle. Keeping weight off isn't as sexy, doesn't make money for purveyors of weight loss products. Stories of "staying the same" just don't cut it in People Magazine. Or I guess on Spark.

Nell

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11/1/10 6:02 P

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On a related topic, does anyone agree with me that the weight tickers are not really suitable for people who are maintaining. I could reset mine to show my healthy BMI weight range. Hopefully, I would average somewhere in the middle. However, to other members it would look like I haven't reached my goal weight. What do other maintainers think? Has anyone found a solution to this?

I am at goal and maintaining. Thanks to my friends on SparkPeople and in the real world who motivate me every day.

My healthy BMI weight range is a generous 65kg to 55kg. My Spark goal is 60kg.


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10/29/10 9:43 A

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It IS hard. Agitation burns calories for me, but I have no idea how much. I can measure what I put in, but not what burns off. I think that's why maintaining is a range, just goes up and down by a couple of pounds. We always blame water (which can surely be a culprit) but it's probably real weight, too. Up and Down. Two pounds. Forever. As long as the down equals the up, it's fine.

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10/29/10 7:22 A

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Stability is really hard. I find I need a deficit to make that happens, which only goes to prove it's hard to measure calories in and out exactly.

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10/29/10 4:35 A

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Apprently my BMR is 1,709

I know its not an exact science and our bodies are tempermental, but surely at eating 200 under my BMR and buring about 1700calories a week as well shoudln't have led to significant gain, in fact, should still be vaughly losing.

*shrugs* Its harder trying to stay stable than losing!

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10/28/10 8:39 P

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I have maintained for better than a year now, but last winter I did struggle with about 5 lbs up and down.

Then this past Spring I looked in "My Tools/Reports/Daily Differential" and it was really easy to see why I struggled so. Now I check it daily and have even lost an additional 5 lbs using it as my guide.

At 115, my BMR is 1400 - it is very important to know what your BMR is. I know it is only an estimate but it works for me. This means that without exercise I can safely eat 1400 calories daily.

However, I burn 400-500 calories daily so I average 1800 calories for the most part. Since I do occasionally have some binge days, I don't stress (much) over a pound or two and just get them off again.

This will be my 2nd winter maintaining and I am not worried now that I can check my Daily Calorie Differential every night. Keeps me on track.

Good Luck - you will figure it all out. Coach_Dean has written articles dealing with just this problem.

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10/28/10 2:46 P

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I never did the increase in calories when I hit maintenance. First off, because I didn't know I had to! Second, when I hit a plateau earlier and had to bump up the calories, it was really hard to increase after I had been eating at a certain range for so long.

When I found out I was supposed to increase for maintenance, I just chose not to as it has been working for. Been maintaining over a year now.





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10/28/10 3:18 A

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I haven't cut back on my exercise levels. They are the same as I was doing before, I just refuse to do insane work outs in a gym, I prefer to walk and swim.

I dont want to cycle my calories, I like routine, eating 400 calories more one day and not the next will stress me out planning it and doing it.

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10/27/10 7:53 P

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What an incredible store of wisdom from long-time maintainers! Thank you all for sharing. I'm still trying to figure it all out, and am sitting about ten pounds under my current published goal, although Spark People keeps making me change my goal when I change anything on my spark page!

I am eating around the 1500 range, but I'm training for a 5K, and find myself still slowly drifting downward on the scale. I allow myself the occasional "splurge" above that range. Those splurges can take me up over 2000, but I don't let myself do it more than once a week or every other week.

I'm not particularly worried about being "under" goal because I know the holidays are coming up, and I don't intend a program of deprivation, although I don't plan to go totally nuts, either.

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Like you, I found it easier to lose the weight than to maintain it. The key for me has been to keep my exercise the same and increase the calories. It's amazing how many more calories you can eat when your metabolism is high.

When I made the mistake of cutting back on the 50-minute 5-times-a-week exercise, I had to go back to the 1200-1300 calories a day just to maintain. Resuming the exercise regimen allows an average of 1800 calories....so much more enjoyable.

It is hard to find the balance, but you've come this far and YOU CAN DO IT!

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10/27/10 6:34 P

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You know, the P90X board has a really interesting recommendation, I think they call it zig-zagging. You eat at 1200 calories most days of the week, but then on a couple of days bump up to 1300 or 1400 and gauge how you feel. If you feel better, add a few more days at the higher level and less days at the lower level, until you're eating every day at the new 1300 or 1400 range. Then do the same thing and bump up from there, maybe from 1400 up to 1550 or something, and slowly increase the number of days you spend at the higher level. Then, as I'm sure you can guess, once you're eating at around 1550 calories, bump it up to your real maintenance amount and slowly increase the number of days each week you eat at the higher amount. The idea is that by bumping it up slowly, your body can adjust to the new amount without suddenly deciding to store it all, which is something someone else mentioned. Hope that helps!

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10/27/10 4:58 P

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Thank you all for your input.

I do still plan in advance all my food, weigh and track honestly.

I have never been that active, exercise doesn't motivate me that much, so my calories burned setting for the week isn't really that high to begin with, Im certainly not counting on that keeping my weight down.

I've put my plans back down to 1400, Im loathe to go back down further, Im suffering dreadfully with the cold weather and dont want to be eating so low as 1200 again.

Its so frustrating to think Im gaining at 1500 when I should be allowed more.

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10/27/10 4:44 P

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I have maintained for a long time now. I don't count calories at all, but I do count exchanges, which does the calorie count for me. I can eat an extra 3 exchanges a day of various types, and I still do an extra 100 optional calories (on top of the 100/day I got when losing) on occasional days. That covers the occasional dessert. It works for me.

I pretty much still weigh and measure everything I consume, still keep a journal. An extra ounce or teaspoon adds up quickly. It makes maintaining SO much easier to just stay on my loss program with a little extra, rather than try to come up with a whole new plan. The one thing I have come to believe absolutely is that I can't gain weight unless I am eating too much for the life I live.

I don't rely on activity to keep weight down. It is impossible to measure. For me it's easier to calorie restrict because it's easier to measure to see the effects. An hour of walking burns differently in different people, but the calories in 1 oz of potato are always the same.

We are all different and we all make different choices in the calorie out/calorie in balance. The one thing that keeps my successful is that I KEEP THAT JOURNAL, right down to the lick of a spoon. It all adds up. I'd rather see it in my journal before I see it back on my rear end. If I put on a few pounds without knowing exactly how, it's in my journal somewhere.

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10/27/10 4:26 P

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Like others, I found the beginning of maintenance much more difficult than losing weight. It took a while to find a balance but I got there in the end. I went up from 1200 adding about 50 a day each week until I found a balance at about 1500 based on my activity. (i.e. Week 1 - 1250, week 2 - 1300, week 3 - 1350 and so on....) I lost a bit on everything under 1500 and kept steady on about that level. Hope that makes sense.

As Slenderella says, there are so many fluctuations like water retention. I recently reduced my caffeine intake and put on a couple of pounds as my metabolism slowed a bit.

You have made such good progress that you will find what works for you if you apply the same determination and peresistence.

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Oh, Slenderella, what great advice and words of encouragment.



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I also lost on 1200. My maintenance range is 1550 to 1850 when I exercise 60 minutes 6 times a week. I find if I try to eat at the bottom of my range on most days I do okay, even with occasional splurges and slips.

One thing I did when I started eating more for maintenance was to increase my activity. I found I had more energy and wanted to do it. It has helped me a lot.

It truly isn't easy to find your maintenance balance. I played around with it a year, and still don't have it absolutely nailed down. It is so easy to estimate portions wrong or forget to clock the exercise exact. And then our bodies do some crazy things like retain water and give us incomplete and frustrating feedback, especially on the scale.

The important thing is to keep on keeping on. Do the best you know to do. Keep trying. You will get it. You will live at the weight you truly want to be. You can do it!!

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I understand! It's a tricky business. From what I've read on SP about maintenance, our bodies still haven't gotten the message that we're serious and we don't intend to return to our heavier selves. You may have experienced some cycling in your weight where it goes way down and then creeps up - mine certainly has done that. Part of the challenge for me has been keeping the exercise a priority and cycling the calories up and down. I've overeaten Big Time and still lost weight and I've toed the line with my nutrition and gained weight.
Be gentle with yourself - you achieved an amazing accomplishment by losing the weight you did. Now you're in the stage of health where you need to demonstrate to your body who is in charge because it doesn't know any better. I've been at my goal weight since April and I'm still learning what's going on. emoticon

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I completely sympahtize with you. I was also eating at 1200 calories a day to lose. Working out over an hour a day in addition. I am struggling to find the right balance for maintenance.... A little over 1200 calories doesn't cause me to gain, but missing a workout really does.....



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10/27/10 3:23 P

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I had been eating at 1200 when I hit my goal weight.

Now, my minimum is 1700, obviously I couldn't just go up to that in one leap, so I had been building slowly.

I had the last couple weeks eating at 1500, I ate out and had home made baked cheesecake for my birthday, but through my weight loss phase I still ate out and it didn't affect like this.

I am several lbs up after eating at 1500. I have been exercising as planned into my trackers here.

I am so discouraged that eating even under my recommended has led to gain and that I need to drop back down again and try and lose pounds to be back at goal.

Maintaince to me signify's a wriggle room of maybe a couple pounds, this is more than that that I need to re-lose.

Its frustrating and depressing.

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