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3/9/10 5:03 P

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That is very profound, MarieFunFit, that we must change our inner selves in order to keep our new outer selves. Can anyone share more about how you've changed your inner self? How did you start? Aha moments along the way?

I'm just not sure if I've made the inner changes I need to support the weight I am today. Maybe. -Marsha

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3/9/10 2:13 P

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I totally agree with what you said Russlane about losing weight being a much deeper process than we realize.
You do change the inner you when you change the outer you. When you don't change the inner you the outer you goes back to where it was.

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3/8/10 12:15 A

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Shoot me a sparkmail, Nell -- I'd love to talk more about this with you.

But I understand what you mean only all too well. I am tremendously humbled and grateful yet somehow proud of this whole process ... but it's also why the "Weight loss success story" hype gets on my nerves so much.

Yeah, it's amazing to fit in "normal" clothes and do interesting things ... but the real achievement in my mind isn't the weight loss itself. It's how I developed as a man because of it. To me, the real inspiration comes from all the hard realizations, breakthroughs, successes and failures.

My old zen teacher said it best: "You might be working on X, but you're really working on you."

I talk about weight all the time, but for me that's really not the point. Far, far from it. This is a much deeper process than it's usually given credit.

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3/7/10 11:56 P

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I liked what WALKINGANNIE said about the communication between body & mind. It's easy enough to maintain when that connection is strong, but I'm working off a few extra pounds because I let the noise of life drown out what my body needs.

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3/7/10 11:19 P

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Russ, I know what you mean. In the 12 step programs we talk about being GRATEFUL for having had the terrible problem we had to overcome. Without having almost dying of alcoholism, or being fat, I would not have learned the lessons I had to learn, and I would not have the joy I have today. Some of us are too stubborn to learn without the absolute necessity to make a change.

It was worth going through every pain I endured in order to know what I know today.

Nell

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Man, this is a sobering realization, but also a very joyous one - that was then and this is now.

When I get up to my old emotional eating antics, they last very short time periods because I feel so horrible from salt/fat overload. Only to remind myself that I ate like this all the time before.

But sometimes I find it strange that even when I wouldn't trade my weight loss for the world, it freaks me out when I realize there's no going back. Even if I was miserable, the world made a little more sense and seemed safer.

8 years later, I still encounter that during trying times. But I also take pride in knowing how far I've come -- and I'm not talking about the weight.

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2/27/10 8:11 A

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I haven't had the flu in maybe 20 years, but my doc tells me to get the flu shot every year. I am a lifelong athsmatic, and just getting a cold puts me down for 3 weeks.

Age changes everything, though. I am 60 now, but I don't FEEL 60. I feel the same as I've always felt. My weight is recently 7 pounds below the goal I reached when I was 21, which was the low end of the range. My doc just told me to put on 3-5 pounds because of my age. My son the dietician says that old people (can you imagine OLD!) have to be hospitalized all the time to get IV nutrition because they can't afford to lose the 5-8 pounds that people lose when they get the flu. An illness that is an irritant to a younger person can be deadly to someone older. Even though I am hearing my body tell me everything is fine, the medical profession is saying that my body will react differently than my experience would have me believe.

I'm not quite sure how to gain 3 pounds. 20, yes, but 3?

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2/27/10 12:00 A

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I can't return to my old habits- my stomach was standing off from eating wrong and gave me GERD every second day. If I eat soya and tomato products this gives massive grief which requires a hospital visit- over the counter products no longer give me relief. I can be ill for days..
I now eat in peace and don't have pain unless I eat something in town, one or two dressings still give me heart burn if too rich..
I now have cravings for things like prunes- I found out the orac in these is 100% more than our good ol' orange. Google orac levels in your fruit and vegetables these help keep our immunesystem strong. I also crave garlic and if people (mostly my clients)complain I say remember last winter when co-workers brought you diarre and throw up bugs.. Did I infect you with anything this year? - they think very serious about what I pointed out and say thankyou- we will handle the garlic smell..
I had one bout of influenza 16 years back where I was sick as a dog for 14 days- my body just had to learn what a influenza was- coming from New Zealand we don't have much like it.. But my immunesystem is brick outhouse strong now, I can circulate with as many as 5 different people with different strains of influenza and not fall victim to them now..
People I have know vaccinated for svin influenza had side effects- one lady couldn't use her arm 48 hours it went lame on her and she had a huge fright. Many whom have never had influenza vacination before but their doctors thought it was a good idea-whom got the jab- actually received influenza by needle!!! They were sick as dogs.. I was never vaccinated- so I now don't try to fix stuff that is not broken..


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2/25/10 7:02 A

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I agree. I thought about what would be the very best taste that I had missed. After giving it several weeks' thought, I chose the French silk pie. When I finally got it, it was just okay. I split it with my granddaughter and only ate one bite of the crust. Just didn't hit the spot the way I thought it would. A lovely fresh fruit salad simply tastes better to me now. Hooray!

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2/24/10 5:11 P

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Thanks for this interesting thread.

I still have to track everything as my body and I have not always communicated effectively and I haven't learnt to trust it yet!

I agree about old treats not tasting the same though. I made a low-fat fruit sponge pudding and custard - one of my old favourites. I was really looking forward to it but it was only OK rather than comforting and yummy as I'd remembered it.

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2/24/10 3:22 A

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Great inspiring note.
That is why the experts say that loosing weight or maintaining a good body is not exercise or a good diet till you achieve your goal but it has to be a way of life. You and your body it seems have adopted this new way of life.
Congratulations.

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2/23/10 7:35 P

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I have been below MY goal for over 2 months now. This is the longest I have ever gone without gaining weight. I use the scales almost every day.
I have a very strict Vegan diet and am working at not eating any sugar (other than fruit). I have just recently started eating dried fruit. I want to see if I have any sugar cravings, and if I do, can I control my eating in spite of them (so far so good).
I must admit I feel nervous adding dried fruit to my diet.


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2/23/10 6:43 P

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You are actually very lucky that your body has been so negative with your old foods! Too often we can go back to old habits and then all the weight comes back!

While I do not know if eating some foods would bother me now, I am very thankful not to want them anymore!

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I never thought I could eat whatever I wanted once I lost weight. I had changed my lifestyle completely and found that I no longer craved fries with a sandwich but salad. I didn't want a burger...I wanted a grilled chicken salad. I still eat sweets in moderation, however. The greasy stuff I just don't crave anymore- unless I've had a few drinks!

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Tools are good. They keep us on track and don't we all want to be on track?

Moderation has really been ingrained in my sub-conscience now and I hope it stays there!

My body is now craving real food and exercise vs sugars.





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2/23/10 1:05 P

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I like the idea of having tools. It means once we listen to our bodies we have options about where to go to do something worthwhile with the info. I use the scale, my nutrition tracker and my clothes as tools. Thanks for adding to my thinking.

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2/23/10 12:58 P

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I think you have to listen, but also use measuring tools.

When I was in school I belonged to an a cappella choir. The director would give us the first notes and we would sing. Then after we finished he would play the notes we were supposed to be on, and we were always a little lower. It is very very hard to stay on key. My bathroom scales are my tool, just to ensure that I am actually hearing what my body has to say. There is no shame in needing tools. I'd rather be corrected after 2 pounds than 10.

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2/23/10 12:41 P

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I think one of the biggest problems I had when I was overweight was a disconnect between my body and my mind. I didn't listen to my body until the numbers on the scale scared me. I agree with you. One of the great things about maintenance is if you listen, your body lets you know... sometimes dramatically. If I eat too rich a meal without having snacked between lunch and dinner.. let's see how can I say this delicately. The meal moves right through me accompanied by gas, cramps and urgency! Now that's a body shouting at you!

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I agree with what you wrote. When I reached my goal once before, many years ago, I too thought I could eat whatever I wanted. Boy was I wrong. Maintenance can be challenging, bit it is doable. I found that out this last time that i have maintained since June of 2009. I know when I've had too much peanut butter or too much chocolate or too much of anything.I feel sluggish and my stomach is "off". I try my best t not let myself get to that point. I worked too hard to get to this healthy place in my life and I don't want to low it. Nothing is worth the calories. WW has a saying that goes," Nothing tastes as good as thin feels."

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Tuesday, February 23, 2010

Isn't if funny how we all think." Now I have reached my goal weight I can eat all those foods I use to love." Wrong! At least for me. I ate french fries and they did not tasted as good as I had remembered.I over ate on desserts, which I use to love. Now they give me a great deal of indigestion
.Moderation is now the key word I need to remember. If I allow myself a small desert I do not suffer.My body now tells me what it likes and no longer likes.
I have started to learn to listen to it. For example if it tells me it is full I stop eating.
Now is the time to learn to accept the "new me" and live like all of you who have been able to maintain your weight loss for years. You are my heroes




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