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1/12/10 2:50 P

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That's freaking awesome, Sarbah! Tunnel Vision is a dangerous thing ... every time I get it I win up gaining weight or getting thrown off somehow.

In terms of the right/wrong thing, there's a BIG difference between "a dieting method" and "my attitudes toward a dieting method." It's one of those things you hear and think "well, yes, of course." But if you listen not just to what people say, but *how* they say it, you realize how those two tend to be collapsed together.

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1/5/10 7:05 A

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I've never had to defend my weight loss. I'm not sure why... perhaps it's because it was a slow and steady process and, perhaps, because I wasn't evangelical about it.

For me, I went into the weight loss process with the idea that I knew I had to make changes I could live with for the rest of my life. In fact, I had this conversation with a friend yesterday. When she quit smoking, she craved potato chips and chocolate and we got to talking about making some "better" choices - perhaps carrots and ranch dip, for the potato chips, and that sort of thing. That's what I do - I make "better" choices. Some days I make the best choices (no dip!)... some days I make the "worst" choice but then I move on. I give myself permission, I forgive myself, and I keep going.

So if I was eating out with coworkers, I might get the sandwich-hold-the-mayo, rather than a lettuce leaf salad. Or I'll get the salad, because I wanted it, but with the dressing on the side (of the lower-cal version that Cosi offers, which is still as tasty).

I don't preach - I can't, because I'm not a saint at my eating. I like food but I really like being healthy and I'm okay with the choices I've made.

But I know what you mean, Russ, when you talk about the favorite sports team mentality. I have friends who get completely obsessed with minimizing calories, making their diet the FOCUS of their lives, to the exclusion of everything else. Talking about the calorie/sugar/carb/fat count of every food item is boring and, you know what? When they get bored, they stop, and the weight comes right back on. It frustrates me, but I HATED it when people nagged me about my eating/diet choices when they knew I was losing weight, so I don't say anything. It's much like I hate it when people glorify *sports team that is rival of my sports team* and I get frustrated and want to shake them out of it... but I live and let live. I just stand on the sidelines (HA HA PUN INTENDED) to greet them when they come out for a play or two or have the information they need when they fall.

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1/3/10 10:23 P

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I don't know about a "right" way and a "wrong" way, but I do know that there are effective ways and there are also ways that give you vitality rather than leave you sick. And while there are different ways that are effective for different people... I don't know exactly what I'm trying to say except that I encourage people to eat lots of fruits and veggies and to maintain an exercise program (on the rare occasions that they ask)because it creates vitality.

"Motivation is not something you find or lose, have or don't have. It is the product of how you see yourself in the world: active or passive, effective or ineffective, powerful or victimized, normal or pathological."
Coach Dean

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1/3/10 6:50 P

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Lately I've been focusing more on the post-weight "issues" and whatnot, just because I feel I needed to get it out there in the public and say "this stuff happens."

But I'm a big champion for the kind of power you receive when you turn a weakness into a strength. That's why expanding your cooking ability, pushing yourself to try new endeavors -- really changing the fabric of your life in small or big ways -- is the maintenance secret weapon.

The less your life resembles "fat life," the easier it is to keep your eyes firmly on the future and what you want out of life. It also eclipses all the tweaking, monitoring and problem solving of maintaining your weight.


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1/3/10 2:08 P

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It's just a nice thought, and a great way of making friends with food rather than seeing it as a lurking enemy...

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1/3/10 11:34 A

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Thanks! The whole food writer thing really taught me the difference between food deadening you and waking you up.

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1/3/10 11:21 A

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Listened to the podcast, and loved the line about how food used to numb you, but now it elevates you (paraphrasing...) I really feel this too, having been so used to using food to quite the inner anguish (anger, fear, resentment), and now seeing it as a way to nourish and enliven my body...great thought.

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"Don''t let yesterday use up too much of today." Will Rogers

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1/3/10 10:46 A

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Lots of great points, and I appreciate the social aspect of SparkPeople much more now than I did when I first joined as well. When I joined, it was just to track my calories and exercise, I'd read some articles, but I never looked at the boards or teams. Now that's what I show up for, most of the time. (the boards and teams, that is, I rarely track, except on a broad scale)

There are the "evangelical" types I see that seem to feel their way is the only way that works, and if that works for them, that's fine. But that usually isn't the way I'm doing it, and actually, that's fine too. I can't say anyone else would benefit from my particular program, but I love it. That said, I do benefit from hearing about others experiences, especially when they dovetail with mine, or when they put out a point I've been contemplating, but haven't found the courage or desire to implement. (giving up the scale for a month being an example of that...)



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New goal: more practical new goal, 129, update ticker to reflect that goal.

H: 5''4" 50 y.o.

"Don''t let yesterday use up too much of today." Will Rogers

"Eat Food, Not Too Much, Mostly Plants" Michael Pollan



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1/3/10 9:18 A

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I really appreciate the sports and evangical analogies as I've experienced the same attitudes from co-workers. Someone (probably here in the Spark World) told me: Never do anything in your diet that you don't want to do forever. So when my co-workers offer me a cookie or candy with the caveat that they know I never eat sweets, I always have to correct them. Because sometimes I do eat chocolate. However, now I don't eat it by the bagful.

I'm always struck by how hard and complicated some people make being healthy. Like they are going to earn extra points for complication or degree of difficulty. Jeez, it's not an Olympic sport.

This is the last time I'm losing this weight.


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1/3/10 9:13 A

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One of the (very many)things that I really like about SP is that the trackers act as handrails but not handcuffs. We have a basic set of guidelines but can make our own choices, routines and patterns. I like the freedom to make my food and activity choices with the safety net of being able to check the potential consequences and adapt what I do.

I have seen some irony in losing weight by sitting at a laptop for parts of each day and I didn't use the social networking aspect of the site for quite a while but now I find it invaluable to learn from other people who are sharing their wisdom, struggles and experiences. This Team is a great place to keep me motivated and stop me from backsliding.

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1/3/10 6:13 A

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I think you not only have to find what works for you long term, but you need to pay attention to what's healthy. If it meets those criteria, shut your ears to what others think, and "go for it".

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RUSSLANE's Photo RUSSLANE Posts: 401
1/3/10 12:48 A

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One of the things I marvel most at with SP is its genius in community building. So many other Web sites should be so lucky. There's a reason I hang out here most on the Web ... some of the most sophisticated and savvy folks hang out here, and it's to SP credit.

The trick's explaining that to folks, I'm with ya.

But I always find it interesting ... for all the scientific mumbo-jumbo discussed with weight loss, sometimes I feel like's it's a religion unto itself ... less a scientific process than an faith-based system. For m'self, my weight loss stuck when I stopped putting faith in the "right way" and started putting faith in m'self.

The flip side of defensiveness are the evangelical dieting folk ... those who are so taken with what works for them they aren't satisfied until the rest of the world feels the same way (and god help you if you don't).

Round and round it goes...



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1/3/10 12:12 A

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I haven't listened to the interview (yet) but thought I'd comment on the questions, because this did come up at dinner out with friends tonight (gasp, yes, live friends!) We were talking about the lack of socialization in society today with people being hooked up to so much media/internet, etc, and my SO mentioned Spark People, I must say, a bit pejoratively. He doesn't have any online social interactions, and actually doesn't even own a cell phone, but I must admit I was a bit put off, and felt myself go into defensive mode. I guess I just don't put this site on a par with other "social networking" sites, even though it really is that, it just seems like so much more to me. It's helped me set goals, besides losing weight, I'm more active, and trying new things I don't think I would have without Spark People.

I don't know if that even speaks to the question posed, but just thought I wanted to get that out. My thought was the part about "doing it wrong" and is this "wrong" or "right" or just another alternative among many good alternative that work for some people. I think the "right" way is the one that works, the one you'll stick with, the one you can make a habit of and live with the rest of your life. Other than that it's up to the individual to decide what that means to them.

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New goal: more practical new goal, 129, update ticker to reflect that goal.

H: 5''4" 50 y.o.

"Don''t let yesterday use up too much of today." Will Rogers

"Eat Food, Not Too Much, Mostly Plants" Michael Pollan



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1/2/10 7:19 P

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Hey guys,

I recently did a podcast interview with a low carb Web site, Livin La Vida Low Carb. Link's here for the interview:

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As a personal favor, I'd love for y'all to check out the podcast and/or leave a comment on the Web site! Keep maintenance alive, baby, yeah!

Beyond the shameless self-promotion (yeah yeah, I know), the whole interview really speaks to a key issue:

I began my whole weight loss journey eating Low Carb (by the book, not the "Steak and Bacon" Hollywood image of the diet). And it was funny: for every compliment was also a "you're doing it wrong."

I'm wondering: how much do you have to defend your weight loss, Sparkpeople or however you lost your weight? Do you think there's really a "right way," or a "right way for you?"

I'm clearly in the camp of "keep walking your own path" rugged individualism-meets-dieting, and I'm always struck by the sports mentality people apply to diet methods: people tend to talk about them like favorite sports teams in my view, and it's a misleading question.

Thoughts/ideas/opinions?

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Russ Lane

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