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9/1/09 7:05 P

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Thanks Russ. emoticon , blushingly.

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9/1/09 7:01 P

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I wrote enough of a novel earlier -- I just want to say how much I love you guys. That's awesome, Tryinghard.

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9/1/09 6:52 P

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One of the things that has really helped me to understand why, in our society where food is plentiful, we put weight on so easily. We are living at a time like never before in history. You only need to look at photographs from the early 1900s to see that people were a lot smaller and thinner. Automation has taken the "hard" out of work. Instead of manual labour we now allocate machines to work. So we don't get exercise to the same extent. Do your children walk to school? When did the change happen? Yes, again, that prefix, auto as in automobile, so they don't get the exercise kids used to get. So exercise wise, it has to be extra and after a day's work it does not come easy. Also, nowadays, as I sit at my computer, I realise, leisure time is often spent sitting while our fingers do the work. Understanding that exercise for its own sake is the only way to maintain muscle and cardio fitness helps to keep me at it although it does not come easily.
Food wise, well, for millions of years it was a battle just to feed ourselves, meat and sweet stuff did not just arrive on our plate, it had to be hunted out and then gorged on because it would go bad or other animals would get into it too. So you can see where the habits come from. Easy calories back then were hard to come by. Nowadays, well just have a look at some of the shopping trolleys around you. It's not hard work to lift something off a shelf that is loaded down with foodstuffs, but we still have those old habits, sweet and savoury, let's hoe into it. Understanding that we are fighting these primal urges helps me to make a conscious decision to choose fruit rather than sweets/lollies or fat soaked nibbles and to know what a proper serving size is.
Our children need to be educated about food and exercise. It has to start early in life and it has to start in the home. Good role modelling is the best example and this too helps me to stay on course.

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9/1/09 3:35 P

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I feel ya, Mommy.

All last month my eating/exercise were fine, but I've been really stressed about work and no money and just winding up frustrated, bitter, and occasionally grabbing a large pizza at 2 a.m. because A) old emotional eating and B) missing meals throughout the day. My weight didn't change and my clothes fit less well, but I felt out of balance and freaked out.

Finally a friend said "Do you have the luxury to beat yourself up?" I laughed and said no. He replied "Well, okay then. Stop."



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9/1/09 3:17 P

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Thanks for posting this cuz I have been struggling the past few weeks. I know I don't want to and can't go back to the old me, but I can't seem to stop feeding my face. I know I am kinda down about summer coming to an end, but geesh! I have got to get a grip!

"Do not destroy the work of God for the sake of food."

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RUSSLANE's Photo RUSSLANE Posts: 401
9/1/09 12:29 P

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Hey guys,

What, like I wasn't going to chime in on a question like this? :-)

I was just writing something for somebody on this. I'll just paste below. This itself is just a more succinct version of The Second Helping Manifesto www.secondhelpingonline.com/?
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There's so more to this process than the mechanics of diet and exercise, and the mechanics overshadow all the other things that are going on.

A) First is the idea that we're "cured" of fat when we hit goal. People talk about obesity nowadays like a disease ("epidemic," etc.); personally I feel I have a lot more in common with AA or NA members. Rather than a disease, I view more like an addiction (a perpetual set of habits and beliefs with negative consequences). I don't think it never really ends -- you just learn to manage it better, and stay present to what you really want your life to be.

B) There's this assumption that when your weight changes, your life (quality of life, health, etc.) automatically changes with it. That's true enough to be grossly misleading. It's the whole "Life is perfect thin" idea we all know is BS -- the thing is the reality of that "life isn't perfect thin" can be stressful if not downright overwhelming. There's a lot of mental adjustments at play, on top of the fact you cannot ignore the mechanics, either.

C) Losing weight and managing it are two separate, related animals: dieting, at its core, is basically doing thing someone else told you to do -- eat-this-move-that. A diet's just a method for reduced and wiser intake and physical output to change your body. It's quite mechanical.

Keeping it off, on the other hand, is less about following and more about leading -- deciding where to take your life from there. I.E. Asking yourself "Now what?" and having the courage, compassion, creatvity and chutzpah to come up with your answer. And ask it again and again.

It's why sustaining a weight loss -- a life change -- is so damn hard. When life's stressors -- and weight loss can create a few more new stressors, mind you -- it's hard to stay present to Life B when Life A, by comparisson, was a lot simpler. You could just eat and stay still and cope just fine. With that defense mechanism gone, you have to come up with new methods of coping.

That's not to say that this isn't, or can't be, a permanent life-changing event; I argue it just requires the extra step of applying the lessons learned from weight loss to all the other areas of your life -- really changing the fundamentals of your life to the point that your day-to-day existence cannot support pre-weight loss's habits.

But there's a beautiful opportunity in that ... taking on the challenge of making life, post-weight something beyond your wildest imagination.

I didn't lose 250 pounds so I could lose 250 pounds; I lost it because I wanted to have an extraordinary life. And I could have that at my heaviest -- but I was so preoccupied with my weight and tuned out from eating so much that I couldn't see myself clearly. And I wanted to know who Russ Lane was, without all the masks and obtuseness.

*Laughs* and compared to that goal, losing three movie star's worth of weight was a breeze.

The trick is staying aware and present to that no matter what's going on around me. And even if I fail at that in the moment, giving myself the grace to start fresh. There's nothing more powerful in life than giving yourself a second chance.

A note on the statistics: The basic "90 percent of people gain it back" statistic was determined back in 1958. 1958. How many medical advancements have their been since?

Now add in the fact that this with the fact that focus groups don't focus on weight-regain, backslides, etc. and only BMI (which can be misleading), the statistics provide a broad overview of obesity but don't tell the whole story.

And lastly, couple this with the fact that all the mental challenges -- all the emotional/mental/spiritual stuff -- is all but ignored in the public discussions of obesity. No wonder people struggle with losing weight; no wonder people yo-yo; no wonder it's so hard to keep it off.

In all the sexiness and intelligent conversations of the mechanics of weight loss, there's very little wisdom on all the deeper, more subtle aspect of weight loss. And those subtleties have a way of inevitably biting you in the fat ass.




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PERSISTENCEMIMI Posts: 11,175
9/1/09 10:54 A

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....... count calories (WW points or other way of tracking), eat healthy filling foods, exercise well consistently and live a healthy lifestyle, WHY the percentage of success is still so low in losing the weight and most important KEEPING IT OFF?
All we have to do is just follow our plan! It doesn't sound so complicated.

Food for thought.......

What do YOU need/want to do to be part of the small percentage of the successful members? (no matter what "diet plan you follow).

If the percentage of success was, for instance, 90%, the "diet" industries would not be able to sustain themselves financially.
But so far, up to date, they do!

There has to be more to it rather than just follow our plan.
What is it? Emotional factors? other?
What? What is it?

Food for thought.....

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