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6/28/09 1:21 P

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Really well written and thought provoking article, in a really good way! I find it amazing that Evelyn had the presence of mind after 10! years to look around that step class and realize it wasn't doing it for her.

I never had such an "aha" moment as that, my jumping off the diet journey was really accidental, I was traveling with a friend and we just couldn't afford to eat a lot of bad foods, and we were doing a lot of walking, so after spending 5 months travelling around Europe on a shoestring budget, I got off the plane in SF, and greeted my parents 45 lbs lighter than when I had left.

Actually, now that I think about it, I got right back on that diet/exercise bandwagon, and never got off. I did gain/lose weight, and have for most of my life. I'm just recently thinking about taking a scale sabbatical, so this article is really a bit of providence for me!

So for the question that was asked, which was why I really hit the reply button, I would say I really love Spark for this type of exchange. And it's free and has so many resources available.

About the magazines, I'm currently getting Fitness, and it's a quick, fun read for me. Nothing I don't know, maybe a new idea about a recipe, but I really think it was just cheap so I signed up for it. It's good to put my to sleep, I like to wind down by reading a bit, and magazine articles tend to be short enough to read and not get too involved...I guess I don't see them as a savior or an enemy, if they inspire people to better their lives, great, if they do nothing for you, they are really easy to put down, or give away!

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ZELLAZM's Photo ZELLAZM SparkPoints: (93,863)
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6/21/09 6:35 A

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For one thing, SP is free!!! And there's the supportive community that goes along with all the info supplied here.

As far as magazines go, I do read them occasionally, but seldom buy them because someone usually has old ones to give away. The information that might be helpful to me - recipes, workout ideas, etc. - is more or less timeless, so the date on the cover isn't important. And there are times, like on a plane or train trip, when I'm not able to log onto SP and a magazine in my hands is an alternative. If I were to buy one, it would probably be Prevention and not Shape.

Now to read the article you posted...sorry I just chimed in and responded to your last post!

Update: Read the article, good one! Dedication and the right attitude, not just looking for patent answers. I think you made it clear that you're not necessarily supporting her methods, but rather her mindset!

Edited by: ZELLAZM at: 6/21/2009 (06:43)
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Rom 8:37 "...in all these things we are more than conquerors through Christ who loved us."

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6/20/09 7:19 P

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Funny you bring that up. With the subtlety of an atom bomb *laughs* I went out of my way to say "don't be offended by X." toward the end of the article.

Mostly because I don't want Second Helping to get in the "this diet method/product is better than that one" debates. Honestly, after all the different eating methods and workout methods I've used over 8 years, I'm clear there isn't a "perfect" method.

I think so much time is wasted arguing how the "right" way to diet -- when the mechanics of weight loss (diet/exercise) are just part of the whole equation. I'm trying bring to light all the stuff *beyond* weight loss methods -- basically give the rest of the world what we're doing for each other over here on this team. The stuff most other folks don't talk about.

Now that said, I'm wondering: how much do Shape and all the "women" targeted weight loss/health media do the ladies of the group find useful? How is Sparkpeople different?



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6/20/09 5:41 P

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What I most appreciated from this article was Evelyn's ability (or epiphany) to step outside of the box.

I wish more women, especially the younger and the older, would realize the benefits of weight lifting -- and I mean, lifting heavy weights, not "toning".

I stopped reading Shape magazine many years ago, pretty much for the same reason. That, and I got tired of reading so many articles focused on eating disorders.

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You and me both, darlin'.

In Evelyn's case, the whole thing just cracked me up because it was such a New Jersey response, y'know?

But I think it's that "I will accomplish this no matter what" quality that I appreciate most out of this whole process. I can trust in it, y'know?

Fight the good fight! Onward!




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Thanks for the article. I need some of that chutzpah! The most valuable thing about SparkPeople for me is the motivation that I get from other people. Reading stories of determination and commitment helps me with my determination and commitment. And I am in dire need of both right now.


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6/19/09 9:01 P

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Re: "You're losing too much weight" and compliments a few weeks later:

People look mostly at each other's faces. Fat comes off evenly all over the body -- lose 1/4" of fat from your belly, lose 1/4" from your face. So there is a long period -- especially toward the final few pounds -- when the face looks really gaunt. When you reach your goal weight, the fat redistributes itself -- you keep losing from your belly or waist or hips, and your face fills out again.

Learning this helped me get through the "you're too thin" comments more easily.

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6/19/09 7:53 P

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Yes, I think we can all relate to that.

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6/19/09 7:40 P

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Awesome. Thanks! And this is a pretty friggin' special group here. I said it early on, but I really wish I knew this was available when I was giving it a go. Doing this alone, or surrounded by people who just don't get it, SUCKS. *laughs*


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6/19/09 7:09 P

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Enjoyed the article immensely. One of the great things about SP is that there is no need to be the lonely long distance maintainer, we can just log in and get the best advice going, and the best support structure.

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6/19/09 6:33 P

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Oh, you rock! All this week I've been noticing stuff about SP that I never did before. *Laughs* Thanks!

I think Evelyn's story points to one of the nicest potential fringe benefits of maintaining your weight -- immunity to peer pressure.

In her case, it was ditching the step class for the weight room (not that step class is inherently evil, mind you, it just wasn't working for her).

I think for me it wasn't freaking out when I kept hearing "you're losing too much weight." (only to get compliments from the same folks 10 pounds later, which is telling) Or if I had a setback, the expectation of everyone around me that I'd be 350 again.

Best revenge is living well, I say.

EDIT | I adjusted the first post, all by myself! :-)

Edited by: RUSSLANE at: 6/19/2009 (18:34)
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Good article, thanks!

BYW, if you click the "add a link" box above the box where you type your message, and put your url there, you get a hot link in your message, like this:
www.secondhelpingonline.com/?p=1156

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Hope everyone's great!

The latest "You lost weight. Now what?" article I did is on Dr. Evelyn Wells. Her "ah-ha!" moment when she first decided to lose weight is one of the funniest I'd heard in a while. And her story brings up some good points of consideration.

www.secondhelpingonline.com/?p=1156

As always curious as to reactions -- I had some questions in the comments section.

Edited by: RUSSLANE at: 6/19/2009 (18:34)
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