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9/24/12 2:00 P

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I have another question on clipping nails. The clippers I got seem to work preetty well if I get them all the way working. In the 50+ years that Ive had dogs I never had to worry about nails before my boys because the other dogs always wore theirs or else clipped them themselves (great teeth on those girls). Venture fights like crazy, even with me just holding his paw, so I am not sure I could get him to hold still for the PediPaws (if I find them). I did get a couple nails clipped a little bit and I have heard that you clip a little at a time and the quick will recede and you can clip a little more. How long do you need to wait between those clippings? I got 4 nails done with tiny clips the other day before he would not even take a treat and let me do anymore. I would really like to get them back to where they would not be all a mess.

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8/8/12 2:09 P

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8/8/12 10:26 A

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Thank you for the advice about the dremel. I'll have to get one. Think I'll let the pros do it one more time. That way they'll be in good shape when I do it. Plus NOW is when I should be getting her used to my touching her nails, etc, before actually doing anything.

That also makes sense about the holding thing. I know the vet let me hold my dog and then had the aide hold her. She then told the aide to let me do it, seemed my dog trusted me more.

Boy, what we go through for our dogs, just like having a little kid again, huh? I wouldn't have it any other way!

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8/8/12 9:59 A

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I use a Dremel I have read that the Pedipaw thing has a weak battery so it does not do a very good job. I just got the regular Dremel from the hardware store. My dog tolerates it but love when doing his nails is over.

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8/8/12 8:49 A

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i bought the dremel nail set and trim my dogs nails myself. works great. get the electric not the battery one.

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8/8/12 2:33 A

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The reason many groomers and vets don't allow owners to hold their pet is because many owners mean well but will cause their animal to be more anxious. An owner who is at all worried, even a little bit, about how their animal will act, will transfer this anxiety to their pet via touch, tone of voice, smell etc. and our pets have good enough hearing they can even hear our heartbeat.
This is why it's so critical that the dog has a nail-trim by a person who is relaxed and comfortable with the procedure. If you think that there is even the slightest chance that your presence in the room will make your pet anxious just leave and let the pro's do the job for you. emoticon
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8/7/12 5:11 P

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That is probably the case here, too. I know that the vets here don't let you hold your pets during any treatment. Insurance no longer allows it. I was able to hold Venture for his shot, though and also when I had to have Blue sent to the bridge she did it while I was holding his head. I think that is the hardest thing I have ever had to do.

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8/7/12 4:53 P

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PetSmart won't let you hold your pet. (At least mine wouldn't). Said it's policy.
They've always done a good job on my dog, but she lets them. (She doesn't like it)

Thanks for all the info on clippers. Are the PediPaws any good or do you need a more professional one?

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8/7/12 2:34 P

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i would try PetsMart anyway. if you need to help them by holding him or giving him a treat while they trim his nails, that could be worth the extra cost. otherwise, you will have to take him to the vet and get him tranquilized. I usually have to have my vet trim one of my dog's nails because she just won't let me or DH do it easily.

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8/7/12 12:50 P

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I do have the Pedipaws somewhere and got batteries for them the other day, but I can't find the tool. We were going through everything in the house to find things to sell, which included the furniture where I had the Pedipaws and I moved them to who knows where. I thought I knew, but couldn't find them. With Venture not letting me touch his paws, It is hard to use the file types, either. I used to use a Dremel, but last time he grabbed my hand to stop me from using it anymore (didn't bite, just held my hand in his mouth), so even a sanding type is a problem. I thought these clippers would be faster.

Birgit, the vet clinic hasn't tranqued him for trims, but I think they only do trims if you are already in there for something. I was thinking I would just go to PetsMart groomer, but I don't know how that will go. He would have to be muzzled. I can't really afford going there more than once.

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I just watched the video.
It is overall very helpful, although I wish that the use of different types of nail trimmers were explained and shown.
One thing that is controversial is the use of styptic powder. While it will help to stop bleeding, applying pressure for a short amount of time will almost always stop bleeding without styptic powder. Depending on how long a container of styptic powder was already used the use of it can actually introduce bacteria to the area. Either way, an infection is very unlikely to happen anyhow. Using a soft paper towel and applying light pressure works at least as well.
If possible learn from a groomer, not a veterinarian. Vets will often sedate animals to get the job done and most groomers do not but train the dog to accept handling.
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8/7/12 10:58 A

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i can't use the clippers on my dogs. i use the pedipaw (sander) on my 2. Kirby doesn't like it, but he will stay until i am done. Ziggy needs to be hog tied and bear hugged by one, then grabbed by the other needing to actually trim the nails. it is a production. LOL. i know that's not the best way, but she just doesn't like it and it has to be done before we go anywhere else. we can't wait that long and i really don't want to spend $10/month if i can do it myself.

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8/7/12 6:08 A

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Have you ever tried the kind that don't actually cut the nails but wear them down instead? I had to use those on my dog after she had a really bad experience getting her nails trimmed. you just turn them on and they kind of sand off the nails and then you don't cut them and don't have to worry over hurting the dog.

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Both types of nail trimmers can work for different users and dogs. One main issue is that the blades are sharp. With the guillotine clippers (the good kind anyhow) you can buy replacement blades (online if not local). Twisting the nail is possible with either kind. A dog that will pull their foot away will experience discomfort which will lead to more pulling away. I will try to find time to watch the video and comment.
For dogs that have had a bad experience gradual desensitizing works best starting with just touching the foot, then touching the toe, then touching the nail with the clippers without trimming. Combine this with giving treats for anything that your dog tolerates without fighting. When the dog accepts all this get him used to the squeezing of his paw (gently) with your fingers that precedes cutting the nail. The first time around take off only a tiny sliver of the nail, give a treat and stop for a couple of hours. It may take 2 weeks to get all the nails done but every time the dog has a good experience it will get easier.
You can also pay a professional groomer or trainer teach you how to trim nails for a fee.
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That is interesting about the guillotine type clippers because I had always been told they were better because the others pinched too much. I have been able to trim more with that type before, but Venture is getting sensitive and freaking out at a lot of things lately. I tried giving him his lepto shot because we had foxes living in the back yard and he screamed like crazy and pulled away. I had to take him to the vet for it. Of course, the needles they have with the vaccines you get from the vet supply place (for public) are larger than the ones that the vet has. I think he had maybe a 26 gauge and the one with the vaccine I purchased was about a 20 gauge.

Thanks for the information.

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Below is a video that may help you.
http://blog.lifesabundance.com/post/2010
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(Please note, that I am not advertising the food in any way, I just found the video informative.)

Personally, I bought a very good quality clipper...like the style shown in the video. (I don't like the guillotine style...I feel that they actually twist the nail.) Since many of my dogs nails are also black, I do trim a little bit at a time. Especially if I have let the nails grow too long (bad mom), I trim all the nails in small increments. I have found that if you take too much at once, it causes the dog discomfort and makes it harder to trim the nail. Also, if possible, I have a friend help, not by holding my dog, but by distracting him with a treat, and each time I clip a nail or two, he gets a goody. This has worked very well for us. If I'm alone, I practice the "leave it" commnd with him and have the treat in front of him, but out of his reach, therefore, his focus is again on other things...and when I clip a nail or two, I will tell him to take it. Again, if I let the nails go for a long time, I may trim his nails...each nail, but a little bit a time every week until they are back where they should be (his nails grow really fast.)

Now, with my mother's dog ( a rat terrier) who screams bloody murder in the vets office before anyone even touches him, I have his "daddy" hold him and distract him with treats. Since he is at home, in loving and trusting arms and being fed, he doesn't even peep.

Basically, you have to set it up for the best comfort of you dog...if somebody, including me, tried to hold my dog while his nails were clipped, he would not allow it. Because I let him make the decision on what he wants to focus on...it works for him. This is not to say, that sometimes he is very excited and energetic and it doesn't work. I just wait for another time when he is tired and more likely to sit still.

Hope this helps. Every dog is different when it comes to nail clipping. Just remain calm, don't get frustrated and take it slow. Even if you clip one nail every day...its a start. And always remember...TREATS & LOTS of PRAISE.




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Has anyone tried the clippers that tell when you are too close to the quick when clipping nails? I got some the other day because I cannot tell where the quick is on Venture's black claws. He is badly in need of clipping. I tried using these and it did show when I was far enough from the quick, but when I started trying to clip it turned red (over the quick). I did get one nail clipped. Venture is fighting so much I cannot even rub his feet without the clippers anywhere near. He doesn't like people, so I am leary of taking him to a groomer. Any ideas how I can get him to allow me to clip his nails?

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