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7/20/12 11:44 P

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I had previously been using this thermometer + sensor combo with the sensor in my barn and the receiver in my house. I'd guess that's a good 30 feet, and that was sending signal through two walls. I'm anticipating my reception range from the car will be a similar or greater distance than that.

After this move, I'll be in a situation similar to your having to take the dogs by car to good exercise areas, so I'm hoping this works for the move and for future car trips, too.

Edited to add I found my instruction manual that indicates, "The sensor must be within 100 feet (30 meters) of the main unit."

Edited by: KAI_ZEN at: 7/22/2012 (17:01)
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7/20/12 10:41 P

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KAI ZEN, that looks like a great idea. I'm going to look into this further as I am in a situation where I can only exercise my dogs by taking them somewhere by car sometimes. Do you know how far one can go away from the car and still be able to read the temp?
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7/20/12 9:33 P

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In preparation for our midsummer move with necessary dog-in-the-car time, I've set up the remote sensor of my thermometer like this one www.acurite.com/weather/thermometers
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in the back of my car where the dogs will ride. I can then put the receiver/display in front with me, plus grab it and take it with me when I leave the dogs to use a restroom, gas up the car, run into a store for groceries, etc.

My plan is this will let me keep an eye on the difference between my front seat temperature, with air con blowing right on me, verses their temperature way in the back so I know if I need to cool the car more; plus for the short, unavoidable times when I have to leave them, I won't have to guess whether the temperature is still okay, I'll have the receiver in hand and know if it's heading toward too hot.

As I'm moving from a temperate climate to a hot climate, I'll leave things set up this way so I can still take my dogs out and about with me and know whether the precautions I've taken to keep their area cool are working.


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7/20/12 6:40 P

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I didn't make any comments about the ability of individual dogs to withstand heat -- obviously, that's not possible. The figures I gave ARE from a researcher at San Francisco State University. I don't doubt that the numbers can be changed by different factors, but regardless, if what you say is true, and you cannot predict the temperature, then it's not a gamble I'd take with an animal I loved. Handling a stranger's animal is a terrible idea, but I'd take the risk if I genuinely was worried a dog would fry.

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I wanted to add a number of other factors about dogs that make a big difference in their heat tolerance. The dog's age, fitness level (resting pulse), overall health all play a big role in how dogs handle heat.
I know of a smaller dog (15 lbs.) that regularly participates in ultra-marathons (50 milers) with the owner in any weather that these events happen. I had my doubts at first when I heard about this but this dog seems to have a blast and runs ahead the whole time.
On the other hand I have seen many people jog with their dogs in the heat (ranging from 90-110 degrees) on asphalt and the dogs are close to collapsing from heat stroke.
I have also seen elderly dogs unable to walk after 1/4 mile walk on the pavement in the summer. Dogs are like us, many are overweight or obese, others are incredible endurance athletes, bred for running in the desert. Some are sprinters who will do anything for two miles and then need to rest. Many have health problems like hypothyroidism, heart problems, respiratory problems, kidney disease, diabetes, liver disease, all conditions that will affect heat tolerance. If in doubt talk to your vet (if you have a good one) and ask what they recommend for your dog.
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7/20/12 3:10 P

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THEMARIONETTE,
There are many different reports on the internet that all give different figures. The reason for this is none of these examples are scientific. Many factors are ignored: How big is the shade area, how hot was the engine of the car when parked, was the car parked on asphalt (dark surface) or on grass, what was the inside temp of the car (due to heating or air conditioning, how far were the windows cracked (ranging from just half an inch to more than half open), how much wind was on that day (cooling effect), where in the car was the temperature taken (the dash is usually the hottest). Also, what type of dog breed was exposed to the heat (a short-nosed breed will be in danger at temps much lower). Many things to consider for sure, and if in doubt be conservative. But also be aware of the dangers of strangers trying to remove a dog from your car. They could lose the dog, the dog could bite them, the dog could get hit by traffic...
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7/20/12 12:44 P

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Houndlover -- I'm not trying to be preachy, but really be careful with the hot cars. Inside a car, if it's eighty degrees outside, within 10 minutes it will be around 99 degrees inside of the car. In twenty minutes like you described, it gets up to 109 degrees. After an hour, it'll be over 125. (source/helpful temperature chart: https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash
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So really, if there's any choice at all about leaving a dog in a car during the summer, please don't do it. It's not necessarily extremist -- it really does get hot and dogs get cooked by people who would absolutely never want to do that.

I know you're doing what you think is best for your dogs, so please don't take this personally! I just think it's important information.

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7/19/12 6:07 P

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This is a little off topic but I wanted to share it to save someone else having to deal with this.
It's obviously not ok to leave dogs in a parked car in hot weather. But the definition of hot various from person to person and some people take the law into their own hands and cause potential damage.
The other day we took our dogs for a hike for about an hour. Afterwards they were hot and panting and we gave them lots of water, then went to a small nearby town to get something to drink ourselves. It was just under 80 degrees F in the middle of the day so we parked under a large tree that would provide shade for several hours and left all the windows slightly open. We went away from the car but within sight of it for the next 15 minutes. The dogs were tired and slept peacefully. Then we went out of sight into another store for about 5 minutes and when we came out we saw someone had opened our car, taken one of the dogs out (the one that was loose in the back seat) and claimed that the dogs were left in a hot car and were panting. They even called the cops to complain. The temperature in the car at the time was only slightly over 80 degrees F so the cop who investigated of course did not see a reason to do anything at all. Let me add for those who are not familiar with this that panting is the equivalent of sweating for a person, a normal and healthy form to cool one's body and expected after a workout or in any moderately warm weather.
Fortunately the dog that was in the back seat is very good with strangers and not protective of the car. He is also very easy for strangers to leash and walk. Otherwise this could have had a bad ending.
I told the people that I appreciated their concern but that I knew my dogs were not in any danger at all. The response was that they would remove my dogs from the car again if it happened again. I have heard of several cases where well-meaning but misguided people break windows of cars and remove dogs from vehicles without any need to do this for the dog's safety. Be aware that there are extremists out there who have bad judgement.
In my case the police officer who answered the call told me that there is nothing I can do to prevent this in the future, I can only sue people for trespassing after it happens.
After thinking about this for a while I guess I would have to install a car alarm.

Birgit

Edited by: HOUNDLOVER1 at: 7/19/2012 (18:09)
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7/19/12 4:19 P

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I love the idea of the spray bottle and the clip-on water bucket.

We're moving next week, driving 3 days down the west coast and through the desert southwest. I'm nervous about how to keep my pets cool in the car. (We may end up doing quite a bit of night driving.)

Thanks for the good ideas! Keep 'em coming!

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i simply don't take mine outside, unless i absolutely have to or it's very early in the morning to the nature center or i am prepared with LOTS of water. neither of mine seem to like wading/swimming, so that isn't an option. they have been shorted on their evening walks during this hot and humid weather. so, i try to play with Ziggy (in my avatar) as often as possible indoors.

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7/17/12 11:57 P

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Dogs sweat through their mouths and their feet, so we always have a spray bottle of fresh cool water with us. Our guys all love having it sprayed into the side of their mouth (if you spray straight into the front of their mouth they can choke ) as well as spraying both the top and underside of their feet.

When it starts getting warm here, any time they are in the van with us we always have one of their 'clip on' water pails with fresh cold water and a few ice cubes in it so that they can have a drink. Don't fill it too full, or the first bump in the road will have it sloshing all over your vehicle....

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7/17/12 10:52 P

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This may sound obvious but is often ignored. Don't make them go running with you. They are not wearing sneakers on their feet to protect their pads.
There are cooling vests for dogs.
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Try to make available an opportunity to take a dip in some water. Hobo has gone swimming every day since he heat started and finally figured out to swim(he would only wade at first.)Not bad for a desert dog.

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7/17/12 4:43 P

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I thought it could be nice if we created a running list of beating-the-heat tips for dogs. It's obscenely hot over here...

- Water, of course.
- Soak a rope toy in water, then freeze it and give it to the dog
- Stick a small treat/peace of kibble in the center of an ice cube well, then fill it with water, freeze, and give to dog

any others?

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