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6/17/12 9:52 P

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I've had two close friends with fearful rescue dogs who had great success with doggie daycare. Is that an option where you are? Even though their dogs weren't there every day, it helped them overcome a lot of their fears.

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6/13/12 3:42 P

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I have mine in a great dog daycare 2 times a week and swear by it for my high-energy girl. I could walk her all day long and she wouldn't wear out, but after a day of play and she's tired and happy. Did your vet think that was an option for her? I realize it's not good for all dogs but sure works for some.


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6/13/12 3:18 P

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I have a Jack Russell who is like this too; he gets anxious before we can even here the thunder with our ears. We put him in a crate, because he hyperventilates, and tries to get outside (of all things) if he knows a storm is coming. In the past, when we first got him we had him outside in a kennel, and he literally climbed the chain link fence & ran off because of a storm. He's now a house dog. We're thinking of try one of those thundershirts too.

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6/13/12 11:09 A

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My Jack Russell is an escape artist. Our Lab knocked the screen loose on the sliding door and she slipped out. That was 4-5 years ago and ever since she figured out she could get out of the apartment it's been her mission to escape ever since. I stopped leaving the sliding door open and she found a new way out! She started pushing the screen out of the windows and jumping out of the windows. Our neighbors brought her back to us at least 5 times before I figured out how she got out.

My dog isn't trying to leave because she's afraid of anything, she's the most fearless dog I've ever seen. She just want to explore everything all the time! I think once a dog figures out how to leave they're going to try and do it all the time. I still find her walking across the window sills trying to get out. Before you leave for work check all of your windows to make sure they're closed. I even close the bedroom doors so the dogs only have access to the living room, dining room, and kitchen while we're gone. Just leave the A/C or some fans on so she doesn't get too hot during the day.

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6/7/12 10:52 A

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Had no idea she had already been traumatized by kennels. SO, yes!
Throw that idea out! ;-) Did see an interesting item on another post. It's called a Thundershirt. We plan to get one for our very anxious Golden Retriever, Cheyenne. We have had her since she was a pup and she is TERRIFIED of Garbage trucks, anything with back up beepers, dumpsters, garbage cans and we are always surprised at her new phobias. She is so upset by garbage trucks she attempted to run through a sliding glass door twice before we could get the door open for her, then she released her scent gland! This type of situation has happened a few times and it would be so great not to ever have to witness it again. So, for forty bucks, it's worth a try ... you can watch a video and read testimonials at www.thundershirt.com. Our garbage is picked up on Mondays and SHE KNOWS to smash herself in her favorite corner early Monday morning, long before it is picked up. So we will see how it works and report on our findings.
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6/7/12 2:39 A

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Awww, poor baby. I can understand her fears. Keep us informed on how she is doing.
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6/6/12 5:18 P

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To let you know, there is a web site http://www.throughadogsear.com that provides information on music for storm phobic dogs. Honestly, I haven't spent much time there but wonder if any of the recommended music might be good for your dog. I like your new Vet as she has some workable suggestions. Whenever I leave my dogs alone at home, my TV stays on so that they hear someone talking. My dogs are not phobic of being left alone but like to comfort them so they will rest without stress. I have a friend who has a kennel and she always has a radio on for the dogs.

I love the fact you adopted this dog and are trying really hard to find a way to make things work. I work in Golden Retriever Rescue and know that some of these precious dogs were not privy to suitable starts in life. Thanks for trying to find a solution!

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6/6/12 4:26 P

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We've tried kenneling many times, but that seems to heighten her anxiety... we've gone through about $500 in kennels alone and have worked with our Vet to find a way around it, however other than medicating our fur baby all the time they didn't really have a suggestion. Before we got her she was abused, and left in a kennel for long periods of time so she won't even go near one! We've tried everything to bribe her in (bacon, steak pieces, cheese, her favorite toy...), but she avoids kennels like the plague. If we put her in and shut the door she will literally hurt herself getting out (chipped tooth, cut up paws, and throwing up)... plus when I say escape artist I mean it, almost all of the Kennels she has been able to get out of somehow and seriously we have no idea how).

We talked to her new Vet yesterday afternoon and she suggested exhausting her in the morning before we leave for work... so I ran her about 4 miles this morning and so far (we had my SIL check on her) she hasn't tried to escape. The Vet also suggested leaving on a few fans and shutting the windows so she doesn't get spooked by anything outside. So right now at home we have the AC running, the TV (obviously turned to Animal Planet :-) ), the shades shut and windows closed.

I'm done with work in about 30 minutes, so I just hope that she is content and happy when I get home... otherwise we will have to look at puppy daycare or medication. :-(

Thanks everyone for the suggestions and seriously if anyone else can think of something that worked for them we will try it in a heartbeat!

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6/6/12 12:13 A

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I agree with using a dog crate for when you can't be there, and leave either the TV or Radio on.

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6/5/12 5:03 P

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IMHO, I would consult my Vet and discuss the issue of the fear/phobia. Although in most cases, crates/kennels provide a safe place, that is not 100% true. I personally know of situations where this has not worked. I am not trying to dispute a tried and proven situation, only suggesting that you seek the best care for your dog that you can. Personal experience, with three golden retrievers, my youngest at 5 does not see a crate in the house as safe. In my Tahoe, yes, he does. It takes training and time to provide the security that is needed to feel safe.



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6/5/12 2:44 P

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I agree with the kenneling. Sometimes it's the safest place to be. After dogs get used to a crate it usually becomes their safe place. A crate is usually a safe alternative when safety is an issue.
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Wow, this is a tough one. I hate putting dogs in cages but if it keeps them from running away guess its better that way. I would double check all possible routes of escape and secure them first. We are lucky because we have an enclosed backyard and a doggie door so our cocker spaniel can come and go as needed. Our neighbor's dog kept escaping from their yard and kept digging under our fence and getting into our yard...really made us mad cuz he was a shepherd mix and much bigger than our dog so the hole he left made it possible for our dog to escape. We asked them to please stop this from happening...eventually called the local dog catcher and he gave them a warning and it still continued. They were even fined in our local county court for a "dog at large" charge. And it still continues....go figure! We have done the best we can to fix the fence but he still manages to dig underneath. My husband wants to shoot him with his pellet gun but I told him if he does that I will shoot him!!! Just kidding but he won't hurt the dog cuz he knows it would upset me a lot.

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I agree with the kenneling. Is there a neighbor or someone you trust that can check on her during the day as well? That may be another solution.

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6/5/12 12:26 P

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I would be tempted to try kenneling her with her favorite chew toy/bone and an item of clothing you have previously worn. Don't force her into the kennel, but lead her in with a treat or something she can't resist. It has to be her "happy" place. Would also cover the kennel with a blanket or sheet and a plush pillow or plenty of comfy padding. Might also try leaving on a radio or tv during the day while she's in her kennel. I believe kennels can provide a safe haven for anxious dogs - Anything you can do to help her feel secure...
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So about a week and half ago my dog Lexy got out of our apartment through an open (screen in) window. My husband and I had no idea a storm was coming, and she must have gotten scared. I came home as soon as I saw the lightening (we were across town) only to find my front window screen ripped open and no Lexy... I'm sure the entire neighborhood heard me screaming for her, and finally after 20 minutes (worst 20 minutes of my life) I heard her yelp in the distance. I found her and brought her home... other than a few cuts on her paws she was fine, but I was devastated.
OK, so everything was fine until last Friday (no storms) when I came home to find a note from our neighbors that Lexy had escaped again and was at their house. Again she was fine (our door however was pretty scratched up and another window has a broken screen), but I couldn't figure out what the reason was for this escape...

We walk her 2-3 miles a night, and since the first insidence I've started walking her in the morning as well. I just don't understand why all of a sudden she is so anxious that she is actually hurting herself... she is 4 years old and has always been completely content hanging out at home while we are at work.

Any suggestions? Should I start walking her more (negative situation, positive results)?

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