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Thank you! I just reread my letter and realized how much he meant to us. But life goes on and my goodness Badi had a good life while he was in our lives, Thank God to have those memories.

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sounds like wonderful memories, gina. we will see our fur children at the rainbow bridge.

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I forgot to mention that Badi was over 12 yrs. old when he died!

"The world is one country and mankind its citizens" one of the many truths spoken by Baha'u'llah and "Love is the light that guideth in darkness, the living link that uniteth God with man, that assureth the progress of every illumined soul."


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I found this area to place this in because I think Badi deserves to be remembered. Badi was a Shepherd/collie mix and an extremely good dog. He had been abandoned when he was about 6 and we were just looking for a dog at that time. Because of him I really had to find out a lot about dogs as he was aggresive to people and other dogs. But with a lot of exercise which was very good for us as well as him and some determined thinking we eventually had a fairly good dog as well as one we found we loved a lot. When we left Mexico he was not too well but he'd been showing signs of getting old for a while and we didn't go to a vet till Willow, Calif. She said he had problems breathing and she could not hear his heart. His temp. was up and she gave him the most powerful antibiotics she thought he might respond to. But the further we went the sicker he got and we were surprised when he seemed to perk up on the 5th and went out without urging and did his business. That night he snuggled up next to our bed and in the morning he was not able to move. He seemed totally devastated to pee on the floor. We took him to another vet now in Canada and she said he was very close to death and it would be best to just help him over the edge. My husband wept a great deal and though I was sad I just held it together to stroke him and love him to the end. It will take a while to recover from this but the fact that Hobo our rambunctious puppy is with us helps. Today I took him on a very long walk and he was such a character. He will never be a guard dog but there are advantages to his friendly nature. We never need to worry about scaring others. Our darling Badi will never be forgotten and we unashamedly talk about him a lot. You are over the rainbow bridge and when I leave this earth I will walk with you again. You were a most noble and dignified fellow with occasional humor in your character. You were so kind to little Hobo and put up with him crawling all over you and rarely snapped at him. He was lucky to have you in his life for 4 months.

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Glad to hear that everything worked out well for all of you!

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Ditto ---- so very happy!!!
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Very happy to hear that he's doing well - thank you for keeping us updated!

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vet called and said if Kirby was REALLY in trouble, he wouldn't have been fine by Sunday morning. he probably ingested something he shouldn't have (like sewage waste type stuff). next time, if it happens again, i will call the er vet regardless of what hubby says. my baby boy is getting old and i see that he is slowing down. but i am really trying to enjoy him now and not think of then.

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he's been fine since Sunday morning. I think it was just a freak thing that happened. however, i did call my vet and i am waiting for her to call back so i can give her more details. i am hoping she doesn't want me to bring him in,but hubby WILL tomorrow if she wants because he still isn't working full time permanently.
Thank you everyone for your advice and encouragement and support.

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hi there......

just checkin'........how is Kirby today? We all care very much, and I know how concerned you were. Any feedback from the vet??

Let us know....OK?
Lots of love,
Libby

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Here's wishing Kirby good health, you are a great mom to your pup. You are Blessed to have each other.

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Looks like you're getting some great advice, just wanted to add my best wishes for a positive outcome, and I would check with the vet too!!! emoticon

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You got some great advice already; just wanted to share this website with you: pets.webmd.com/default.htm

It has reliable, evidence-based information for pets. For people too emoticon

Hope Kirby is ok. I know if it were my dog I'd be worried too, but good thing he's fine today. Best wishes!


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Hi Jessica.
I have nothing to add to the great advice you've already been given. I just want to add my wishes that Kirby is fine and that this was just a fluke.

I have a 10 yr old dachshund - and occasionally, she does something that is out of the norm....like a cough. She sees the vet on a regular basis....as needed. I keep her happy and keep my fingers crossed that she'll live a long life - I only 'rescued' her 3 years ago and haven't had nearly enough time with her.

But there are no guarantees. Of course, call your vet first chance you have. If Kirby is OK today.....keep him comfortable - no hard exercise - and feed him lightly.

Hopefully, by tomorrow this time, you will be reassured that he's fine. Best of luck.
Let us know, OK???



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So sorry to hear you had such a scare but happy to hear Kirby is doing better today!

I'm a former vet tech and have experience with dogs with heart conditions, my late baby Dexter lived with a heart murmur for many years without issue, he took Enalapril solely as a means to hopefully prevent any further problems.

Trifexis is a new medication to me, I really don't know much about it, but in my opinion, I don't really think it would cause a reaction such as that three days after giving it. In my experience reactions of any kind to medications usually happen relatively quickly after administration, but I suppose there could be a delayed reaction of some sort, anything is possible. Perhaps he was bitten or stung by something before bedtime and was having an allergic reaction? Is he allergic to anything that you are aware of?

You probably already checked this out but this is what I found online in regards to Trifexis side effects:

What side effects may be seen when taking TriFexis?
Side effects are rare at the recommended dosage. May see vomiting, decreased activity, decreased appetite, diarrhea, itching and reddening of the skin. If you observe any of these signs, contact your veterinarian. Puppies less than 14 weeks of age may experience a higher rate of vomiting.

If your pet experiences an allergic reaction to the medication or the dying of parasites, signs may include facial swelling, hives, scratching, sudden onset of diarrhea, vomiting, shock, seizures, pale gums, cold limbs, or coma. If you observe any of these signs, contact your veterinarian immediately.

Quite frankly I'm not a fan of these combination medications like Trifexis. Even though I don't like to overly medicate my babies, I prefer to give them one thing for fleas (Comfortis) and another for heartworm prevention (Heartgard). I remember a few years ago while I was working in a vet office we had a lot of clients having issues using Advantix, which gives protection against fleas, ticks, and a host of other pesky critters. Not a fan of broad spectrum medications like these, I think they cause more problems than not.

ABSOLUTELY call your vet and tell them what happened and see what they say - hopefully nothing serious and whatever it was has passed. Please let us know what they say and how he's doing!

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I wish I had an answer for you. But there are so many variables. Is there any chance of poisening? Any chance of a heat stroke? There could also be a tumor somewhere, a brain dysfunction, the possibilities are endless. The only thing I know is that you should definitely take your dog in for an exam tomorrow.
I also just discovered a spark group where you may find some more input as it is about veterinary medicine. I just joined today so don't know yet what they are all about. It's here:
www.sparkpeople.com/myspark/groups_individ
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The way I would present it to your husband is this:
Animals can feel pain just as much as people can and to let them experience pain and/or fear is therefore just as inhumane as doing the same to a person. We may not be able to go to the same extent with medical care as we do with people to save their life but we have a moral obligation to keep them comfortable and at least find out what their health problems are so we can treat any pain. This is a commitment we make when we adopt an animal into our home. We chose the animal, they did not choose to live with us. I do understand financial constraints. Talk to your vet about your financial limits up front so you and they know what treatment options there are. Unfortunately boxers are not known for good health and it may be wise to do thorough research on breed health before acquiring a dog in the future.
Hope everything will be ok.
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Birgit

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The only experience I've had (personally) with dogs and heart issues occurred with my Lucky, the last few months before he died just over 3 years ago.

Looking back - isn't hindsight wonderful..... - there had been tell tale signs for a long time if only we had known what to look for - maybe even his entire life. Having said that, though, not one of our vets ever found anything whatsoever that was not as it should be, at any of his checkups - so who knows just how long there had been a problem. He was always a very active dog, even running the fence the day before he died!

If you are seeing no signs of distress with Kirby today, I would just keep a close watch on him, and make sure you get him into the vet first thing in the morning. I would keep him as quiet as possible for today, just to be on the safe side.
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As far as i know, nobody on here is a DVM. However, i am sure that many of you have a lot more experience with dogs, especially older ones, and can give me some advise. I WILL be calling his vet tomorrow, but i need some ideas to rest my mind.
Yesterday, Kirby, Ziggy, and I were relaxing all afternoon while i was watching TV. Kirby was laying on the floor asleep. He was out in the back yard playing with Ziggy before dinner (around 6 pm), they came in and spent the rest of the evening on the floor.
Then hubby and I were going to bed around 10:30pm. Kirby had trouble jumping onto the bed, so i helped him. that should have been my first clue for my 6+ year old boxer boy fur baby. He started breathing REALLY heavy off and on for 10 minutes or so. His nose was dry, so i knew that he wasn't feeling his normal happy self. when the heavy breathing went on, off and on, for more than 10 minutes, i got panicked and thought that he was having serious heart problems sooner than the vet expected for his breed. so, hubby and i spent the rest of the night monitoring him between sleeping ourselves. i had a fan on him, thinking he was overheated and he just hadn't cooled down yet. i suggested calling the emergency vet, hubby said no, he'll be fine. i said i didn't want to take a chance and we should take Kirby to the emergency vet. hubby said, he was just at the vet less than a month ago and got a clean bill of health and a concern with his heart that isn't anything to worry about. i said "he's breathing really hard and hasn't stopped."
so, this morning kirby was his sweet happy self. i will still call the vet on monday morning to get some better ideas.
the only thing i can think of that is different is that i gave him Trifexis on wed, may 2. could that have a 3 day delayed reaction like this? should i just take Kirby off that and return to the previous heart worm meds. or should i bite the financial bullet and take him to the vet and steel myself for being told it was a fluke thing and he is fine?
Please help because hubby asked me how much $ i am willing to spend on Kirby to keep him healthy and alive. hubby doesn't want the expensive repeat of Kitty (diabetic and hyperthyroid) @ 15 years old since he doesn't yet have a full time permanent job. i told him i would spend all the $ i have to until the vet says that Kirby wouldn't be happy and healthy with a good quality of life.

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