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It depends. I can stand and walk around the house and do some strength exercises, if they don't put strain on my back, that is. Compared to how active I was before, it is massively more difficult. I accidentally put myself in a situation where I ended up walking a lot more than I should have, day before yesterday, and now I'm having trouble deciding whether or not it would be a good idea to just stay in bed and rest.

Then again, I'll spend too long in bed or sitting and it's just as bad as if I'd ran a mile. I need to find a happy middle ground.

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Good morning Phyllis, I too have very sore feet after walking so much. When I got off the train, I had to walk 8 blocks uphill,lol(I was getting PT just from that walk). When I got home, I put both feet inside a foot massager with warm water and after a half hour my feet feel great! I have physical therapy at 11 this ,morning, it should be a little easier,ha!
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John, glad to hear you were out and about. It sure lifts the spirits when we get outside. Good for u using heat pad and ice. I wish it worked for me. But when I do my walking, I actually have less pain, unless it makes the sciatica flare up. That has been a problem lately. I get sore feet too after I walk, I got microwave booties from Bed Bath n Beyond, and they sure help take the aches out of my feet, so I use them everynight at bedtime or else it might be hours before I can fall asleep. I think I am getting poor circulation too. UGH!! But life is still good. :)

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4/24/13 12:01 P

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Yesterday, I went to physical therapy, Today and last night, my back was killing me,. I just used the heating pad for a very long time. I then used an ice pack to ease the nerve pain.
I'm not to bad today. I'll use the heating pad after my walk,if needed.
Thursday is the next day of PT.

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3/22/13 9:04 A

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Good morning everybody,
Today, well a few hours ago,it's 9:02AM right now,I took a short walk. When I got home and stretched again,well, I feel great right now. John

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3/19/13 4:28 P

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this morning was a two cane day with the snow still on the sidewalks,I got out this morning at 6 to take a walk. For some reason, I feel less pain in the early mornings,so I walk then.
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Hello, My name is John, If you having electric shocks(=herniated disc). I have constant electric shocks to my cervical spine and thoracic spine,forget about my lumbar, too many things to write down,lol
The tingling may be from an osteophyte,also known as a bone spur touching one or two of you nerve roots in your lumbar (lower back). The MRI will shows that .
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Hi,

I just joined this group and read your post. How are you doing? Did you get your issue with your back and leg weakness resolved yet?

I have issues with my lower back and am overseas. The doctor here sent for an MRI and waiting for results tomorrow. However, he was extremely concerned about where my tingling was and warned me that if it was on my inner thighs and had weakness around that area, I had to all him immediately as damage may be irreversible if left unattended. So far nothing.

How are you doing now after more than a year?

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I'll be taking two canes with me this afternoon. I have to pick up my prescriptions at the drug store. I will be drinking water as I go . Trying to rid myself of the leg cramps.
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2/25/13 1:45 P

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John, at least you did the walk. Shiny gold stars for you on your calendar!!!
That's more than I have been motivated to do. I have done nothing for days. I don't like the way pain pills make me feel. But I am more comfortable when I do take them. It's a quandary.

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2/25/13 1:08 P

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Hello.... I was a hurting puppy after that walk, first the leg cramps, then the toes. I used a combination of either a warm setting on the moist heating pad, or, I'd use an ice pack I made just for reasons like this,lol. Feeling better now. John

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Good Going John!! For the walking! How did it go??

When I do walk, and I don't do much lately, I DO feel better. Even though I know I will feel better it is still so very hard to motivate myself to actually do it.

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2/20/13 11:16 A

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Would you believe it? My doctor wont be in until Thursday.+ I have to make an appointment to see him..I'm glad I called first,lol
today I'm going for a nice walk,approximately 1.25 miles to and the same coming back. I hope to make it to a half a mile without stopping, yeah, I know it's a pipe dream,lol
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Good afternoon Phyllis,
I haven't planned to get operated on yet, I'm going to see my third doctor on Tuesday. He's a physio Dr., a Dr. of physical medicine, I trust his judgement, If he says go, I'll plan to get it done after I get another MRI done for my neck. The last one was done last year,July5,2012. I know they will want newer MRI's to check out before surgery.
I plan to get it done after June 1, maybe earlier,I'll see. John

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...that's great that they can use your own bone material (teach those bone spurs a lesson!) so there's no hip involvement and a MUCH lessened chance of rejection.

I commend you for your walks, even if that means watching tv from the couch for awhile...i'd give both my eyeteeth to be able to take strolls. i live very near a 14 mi fantastic canyon with
I-70 access right through it - it used to be my favorite activity. sigh. but enjoy the movement! after overindulging for v-day, i'm headed to the pool...

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JOHN, there you are. When is the surgery?? Keep us posted. I asked where you were in the Daily Chat, before I got here. Good to see you up and walking, even if you do end up on the couch it is still better than doing nothing. But I can relate. I have to go lay down after I exercise.

MZELLA, that is a lot of work you've had done. Also a lot of good information. Thank you!

I'm heading over to play the word games!

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thanks, Mzella5, but I was told by the surgeon that artificial bone wont be used, but the lamina from each vertabrea that needs to be cleaned of the osteophytes (bone spurs). He said he can remove the spurs that are on and in each vertabrea,they will be using titanium bars, plates, and screws. I don't remember if he said they were going to use bone protein (?)
You can bet I will be bringiong it up to all of the, (cervical spine), surgeons I meet for my third and fourth opinion,lol.
I did research all that I need to know and then some. I have the web site in my "favorites" files.
Right now, after two long walks,1 mile in the morning,6AM, and another mile and a half later this morning,11 AM, for a total of 2.5 miles,now my lower back is barking like crazy right now. It hurts to move. I'll be on the couch for the near future,lol. John

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Hi, John...

..a pain in the neck is RIGHT! A C3-6 fusion is plenty. I originally went in because I suddenly couldn't stand or walk - the lower lumbar was collapsing. I was shown on the MRIs and CTs that even more urgent than that was the cervical area - like you, perhaps, my nerves and the spinal cord itself were being impinged by the growing stenosis and ruptured disc material; in short, carried too far that will cause paralysis. It isn't anything to mess around with.

One thing I did find out was to not stop going to different doctors. Yeah, it's time consuming and painful and hard, when on pain meds to just keep surviving, but following trails of research on the internet to their surgical origins, and asking lots of questions about alternatives to their suggested surgeries, and asking peripheral people, like physical therapists what they've heard about so-and-so clinic and their patients' results, can make you feel more confident committing to surgery. There's never a guarantee, but the more you hear, the better. It's too bad there's no way to get honest answers from your primary care physician on this stuff.

Also, on a 3 level fusion, is it proposed to use allograft (cadaver) or autograft bone graft material, and why? And is bone morphogenetic protein (BMP) to be used? There are pros and cons on both.

I had osteopenia (early osteoporosis) and had to have a year's worth of a study drug, Forteo - daily injections, VERY expensive, but it really did affect my bone density for my big surgery. It carries a black box warning for bone cancer, but I was in danger of dying from my scoliosis, so that was a moot point to me. Anyway, if your cervical fusion requires your donor bone cells from your hip, which work way better than cadaver bone, be prepared for MAJOR pain and relearning how to walk. It caught me off guard. It was actually worse than the neck pain recovery.

Cadaver donor bone was used for my 14 level fusion (there wouldn't have been enough hip bone left otherwise! And I'd probably would never walk again) and BMP, which a lot of ortho surgeons love nowadays, was packed in with it. Of course, a lot of docs and hospitals are now backing away (like University Hospital at CU Denver) from genetically engineered stuff like BMP - it's still new enough that they are covering their - uh - litigation possibilities. No one wants bone material growing in places it doesn't belong. Again, I was far enough gone (and old enough) that it didn't matter to me.

And although I was told FIVE YEARS is actually the fusion time for a full spinal fusion, a year ago @ 3.5 years I was found to be almost completely fused. Yay, me.

The point is, if you can muster the energy to ask the questions to the biggest amount of people, it would be a good start.

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Hello all, I was told C3,-4,C4-5,C5-6, and possibly T1,-T2,then, down the line I was asked if They could operate on my thoracic spine,not the time to be asking me that.

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Hi, John and Misscus....

I've just joined your sparkteam. Sorry to hear about your problems. What levels need fusing? I had C4-7 fused in 2005, and then AGAIN 18 months later. You get to wear a Miami collar for up to 12 weeks - incredibly annoying, but that's it. The recovery is on the inside - whether the bones fuse over time. It takes at least 12 months to fuse.

Good luck with it. When it works, the relief is heavenly...

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John, what a pain in the neck!! When do you plan on doing the surgery?? Did they say why it takes so long to recuperate??

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I had gotten three opinions regarding much needed operation to my neck. I was told it may be a three to four level nerve removal or rather several fusions to my neck. I was told it may take up to a year and a half to recuperate.. It's a big job that's why I went for three opinions. tow for the operation and one against. John, pain in the %&$#@,neck John

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Like many others, I have to do certain kinds of exercise (and a TON of stretching) for it to help, but I think moving does help me a lot. I find stretching in the morning even on my non-cardio days helps my back feel loosened up and more comfortable throughout the day. I was told to avoid certain types of weight machines, so I predominantly use free weights or bands now. If an exercise aggravates my back, I find an alternative way to work the same muscles without the pain, though that can take some trial and error.

Smilindi- I can only imagine how frustrating it is for you to not be able to exercise at all. I really hope that with time and continued therapy you will be able to start incorporating more movement into your life!

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Unfortunately I am not allowed any exercise at all~firm orders NO BENDING AT THE WAIST, NO STOOPING, NO SQUATTING, NO KNEELING! If I walk it is only to be very short distances with my cane or walker. So hard to get used to considering from the age of 12 I'd walked 5 miles a day, no matter the time of year!!! These orders are because of the severe spinal degeneration from my neck to my tail bone, with the 4 compressed vertebrae in my neck, the 3 bulging vertebrae between my shoulder blades, and the three herniated discs in my low back, as well as the spinal cord trauma to boot.

For a brief while I was allowed in physical therapy to use some of the weight lifting circuit equipment, until they figured out I am a gal who is determined to exercise, with a high pain tolerance, and was pushing through the pain~creating worse injury....without knowing it. Gulp. Now it's back to soft tissue therapy and estem treatments ONLY! Oh HOW I MISS EXERCISE!!! SO VERY MUCH I DO!!!!

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Weather permitting, I'll get the MRI done on my cervical spine. John

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I went to the nurologist to get my legs/lumbar checked out and she is more worried about my cervical spine. I just told her I had spasms to the legs every day,and nervousness while just standing or sitting. I go Monday to get the cevical spine MRI. John

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6/9/12 10:17 A

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I went for a long walk this morning and now, my lumbar is killing me. I'm going to use ice first then the TENS unit just to calm down the nerves. John/ NY

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My appointment date has been changed to June 28. I will ''rest up''until that day. John/ NY

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I agree, nerve pain is the worst pain to have. I stopped going to physical therapy because of the severe pain I would have afterwards.
I told them I have an appointment with a Neurologist on Thursday,(truth) and would let them know what she thinks of my treatments.
I hate the cybex machine,(a cross country skiing machine), you use both your arms and legs to exercise. Very painful to my lumbar. The dreadmill is even bad for my back.
I have neuropathies to both my arms and my legs plus sciatica to both legs.My neck has four bulging discs,one herniated,Thoracic has five herniations in the mid to upper back,Lumbar and sacrum have two herniations one of which is big.
She may suggest surgery but outcomes aren't very hopeful to the thoracic nor the lumbar.
John/ NY

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Exercise definitely makes me feel worse. I went from walking 60-90 minutes a day as well as swimming a mile 5-6 times a week to barely being able to get out of bed because of pain. Pain pills sometimes provide moderate relief, but with the nerve pain nothing helps. I've tried yoga and pilates, physical therapy, and everything else that has been suggested to me with no relief. I'm hoping that things will get better after surgery, or at least with the nerve pain. The back pain I can deal with, but the nerve pain makes everything impossible.

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Hi friends...Does exercise make you feel better or worse..well mentally I know it makes me feel better ..physically I enjoy it BUT it hurts. I used to walk 5 miles a day in my job,then come home and do housework/diy/gardening,then walk the dog,that was only the beginning of this year lol. Now I have 24/7 pain nothing seems to relieve it ..so I just get on and do ,i moderate what i do ..a lot. Now i'm lucky if i can walk a quarter of a mile,if i swim it is mainly arm work and aqua exercise stuff,i can use the gym but 10 minutes on the bike / treadmill is enough then i do upper body stuff. What is worse is when i wake up and get out of bed the pain is always there to great me and I find it hard to motivate myself to another day of trying to do stuff with pain..that is the hardest part..but there is no other choice,i want to enjoy life and that for me means being active..so here we go another day emoticon
best wishes to you all and dont let it beat you..there is so much more to ife than our pain (she says positively lol) xx

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Judy, I am sorry to hear you are going through such a difficult time with your back. Thankfully I can still get around okay but I don't know for how much longer at this rate. Working retail is getting me bad... But all we have to do is stay strong. If you have enough hope and believe you can do something, anything is possible.

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I hear you. I use a recumbent bicycle for my cardio. It stabilizes my hips and I get a good work out for my legs. I still try to walk as much as possible - refusing to use the amigo at the store. Even thou I am in a lot of pain after checking out my groceries, I feel a sense of accomplishment - this OA will not defeat me! I have a fourth spinal surgery in my future and possible fusion in my neck. Take pride in the fact that you can still do some housework - keep on keepin' on, girl!

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Me-I used to walk 2 miles in 30 minutes which comes out to 4 mph. Now I can't find any exercise that doesn't kill me! My back pain goes straight to my hips and feels like someone put a knife in fire until red hot and then stabbed me in the hips. Can't walk more than 100 feet without this happening and it has stopped me cold! Have to double up on my meds just to clean my house and life sure is not fun like this......

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It varies depending on the type of exercise I do. I have to be careful not to put too much strain on my back and hips, as well as incorporate a lot of stretches into my exercise to loosen things up. Sitting still for a long time hurts me far more than moving around consistently.

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I have lower back pain from a car accident 4 years ago. At that time I was a recreational jogger. I want to return to that. How did you do it? I was thinking of jogging 15 seconds and walking a minute. Any sort of impact really hurts my back but I am taking pain meds and I think I can handle it. How did it go for you?

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Sitting on my sofa made my back hurt. So even when I wanted to be a couch potato, I couldn't. I would need to move & sit on the floor, or go sit in the kitchen. Getting up & walking around was the best. It turns out that exercising makes any pain I have go away. And if I exercise daily, I'm almost pain free. One thing that was really bad for my back was the trampoline. I tried it 2 different times and it was very bad.

I was told no impact, at all. I wanted to go back to running. I started a very, very slow walking/running program and so far I'm OK. I am doing a few different activities: swimming, biking, walking, rollerblading & competitive badminton. The last 2 have the potential for reinjuring my back, but I'm being careful.

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I had been feeling good for a long time so I decided to exercise 1/2 hour in the morning and 1 hour in the evening. I would play table tennis. I felt great. I was losing weight; about 2lbs a week. Today at work I went to walk and my legs stiffened, became weak; my muscles on my inner thighs kept firing and I could hardly walk. I almost fell. I guess I over did it. I just want to know if anybody else has experienced anything like this.



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It depends what I do. My spine is pressing on my sciatic nerve. I can do NO forward bending. Crunches are out. I do a lot of walking. I can also do push ups from the waist up. I do most of my exercising on my back. I even get dressed lying down. I had a hard time putting my socks and pants on until I started doing it lying down. When I started getting the pain I could not even walk without pain so I am glad to be walking again.

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I too feel that slow and steady works great for back pain,but I also do stretching exercises.
I try to do these every day but on those particuly bad days I just use my TENSunit or ice on the neck and ice on the lumbar. It helps to kill the nerve pain.
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Exercise makes me feel better, however, slow and steady are the key and I'm finding that doing something everyday makes my back feel much better.

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Good afternoon BRAVEONE92,
Thanks, I was so tired from yesterdays colonoscapy. I'm just glad all that business from that end is over,lol. But I didnt sleep at all last night, just 2 &1/2 hours total including the short naps. I think Ill sleep well tonight. John
PS I begin the therapy again tomorrow.
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Good afternoon Judy,
I got out of the hospital yesterday after a planned procedure involving a colon scope..lol
they found two polyps and they were not cancerous! Yippee, on "that end", but I have to stop taking the NSAIDS and aspirin for two weeks to keep bleeding down to a minimum. My shoulder doesn't like that plan but I have to do it. I go back to Physical Therapy tomorrow.
I'm so tired I didnt really sleep last night and have been taking very short naps all day .
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John, I am glad that physical therapy is helping you. I
took it about 3 years ago, it helped, but it was the
very first time, that I was helped.

Best wishes to you. Just remember, that after you
get back home on your own, you will have to try
and continue doing the exercises they send you
home with.

I did them for many months, then got busy or lazy
and now I am in worse shape than before.

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My help comes from the Lord, the Maker of Heaven and Earth."
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Good for you John! I am glad it is going well for you. I know you have had a lot of trouble in the past. I don't post much but I try to read everything.

I am still trying to get over my adventure with the Kettlebell. Looks easy on TV and the infomercial has no disclaimer about back/knee problems. I took it easy when I did the intro video and an hour later I was in such pain I was 5 minutes away from going to the ER. It also raised my BP to 217/97 which was scary. Fortunately by taking extra meds (approved by my doctor) I got over the worst of it but my back is still hurting!

P.S. I am a transplanted New Yorker so hi neighbor!

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am still pain free after 4 visits to my physical therapist. I think they said I would be put on tougher exercises next week, I ll let you know how that went.
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the second and third day of physical therapy was great, no pain at all.
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The next day after physical therapy, and even te day of physical therapy I ll get serious
cramps in my calves. I use a quinine pill (leg cramps brand) works great for me.
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Yeah, I have problems walking too. I also understand what you mean about feeling good when you do it but hurting the next day. i did find that a lot of my "pt" exercises are listed in the strength section, so I added them in. The ones that aren't are more stretches. I do them both before and after my workout and that seems to help. If the pain is goin down your leg, it sounds like it could be siatica (sp??) and you should get that checked out. I feel much better now that that issue is gone with me. At the begining, I was told there was nothing anyone could do until I lost 50-75 pounds but of course I was not to move much so HOW was I supposed to do that!? I did get one disk removed, which helped a lot. Now I am able to do more...but still slow and steady pace. GOOD LUCK!

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exercise makes me feel better while Im doing it but the next day when I get delayed onset muscle soreness in my area of pain, I am miserable. The problem is I know that my pain is 10000 x worse since I gained my last 25 Ibs, so If I dont exercise, the weight wont come off. Its a viscious cycle and very discouraging, adding to the depression associated with my pain. When I walk, my right gluteus medius muscle goes into spasm.

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Since you've been given this before and you aren't fused, you should do fine. Good Luck. Don't do too much at once, build up. Have fun.lol.

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Thank you! Tomorrow (if I can move emoticon ) I will try the superman. As for the fusion issue, I don't think I have that problem. I wouldn't know for sure since no one has done any testing - long story. During physio I had something similar to superman as part of my routine though, so it should be okay.

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Be careful if you are doing superman if fused. I was told not to do those under any circumstances with my fusion. If in doubt, check with your doctor.

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Try Superman...but do not hold the pose long. That helps me a lot. I do a lot of core just without crunches now. Also, make sure you stretch reall good both before and after. Today I feel great, so am sure that it was the crunches.

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LAWOMAN - I did crunches this morning, and I am in agony. I'm hoping that the core strengthening exercises will eventually help with the pain.

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Am finding out that the crunches, no matter how much I modify, is the main exercise that is bothering my back. I am modifying things to test this theory!!

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I do much better exercising on my own instead of PT. I was in a lot of pain after every PT visit and now only when I over do it. Water is the absolute best, but since I am not at a gym now I am alternating core and full body to give my back a break. Unfortunately I can not walk much with my DDD, but I know that actually helps some.

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The only exercise that I can do, is strength training, walking, and
walking on the treadmill. Even that isn't pleasant as it hurts, but
it does help me in the long run. I love using the Band, it really
feels good to stretch.

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Ice is definitly a pain reliever for me too! I do heat sometimes when I wake up and it is sore. On the excerise front - it generally makes it feel worse. I try to do low impact walks or aerobics. I want to try water aerobics...anyone ever try it?

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John, glad to know that you are doing your strength training. I have found
that it is the best thing to do for your back and your whole body. Keep up
the good job.

Like another stated on the team, ice is a life saver for me. The heating pad
does nothing for me. Ice will soothe my back so much, it puts me to
sleep.

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My help comes from the Lord, the Maker of Heaven and Earth."
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I've was big into heavy weight lifting when my back started really having issues. It stayed the same for a long time. Once my son was born my time to go to the gym got cut to almost no time at all. My back has gotten worse since I stopped lifting and doing cardio regularly. I started lifting and doing cardio 4 weeks ago and it's starting to feel a lot better already. Everything I do is low impact and lots of core work these days though. I also started getting my series of ESI's in the beginning of January so that could be playing a role as well.

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I stretch as soon as I get up. it takes about twenty minutes. I really loosens me up and it makes the daily pains take a back seat.
I do 'leg extensions',,back extensions,rotate the cervical spine,lying on my side and pulling the leg up to 12 inches off the floor, hold it for a count of 10. Another exercise is leg squats, and so on. I just finished them, I feel better now too.
My lower back isn't as painful, my upper back feels great too, Now, I don't know if the neck feel better.
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Most things cause me pain, especially working out. But I've been looking at some exercises that help work the core to take pressure off my lower back. Stability balls are useful, even if you just sit on them and rock for a little while. I also started water aerobics and it was great! It was all the exercises that other people do on machines or in classes, but without the pain! I was amazed at how well I felt afterwards. Try Googling "water exercises" and see how that works. And don't forget to ice whenever you feel pain! Ice is the thing that really saves my life. I ice after I work out and I feel A TON better afterwards and it takes a lot of the pain away.

Good luck! You can do it!

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@ I_AM_STILL_ME

I understand how you feel and I am sorry that you are in so much pain.

For my the biggest thing that has helped has been steroid injections, or radio frequency treatments. The steroid is just a cortizone injection into spinal nerves that shrinks them and reduces pain. The radio frequency is pulsing radio waves through the spinal nerves which cause the most pain. I've also heard recently about the use of boxtox on spinal nerves.

The treatments have helped me a great deal. They usually don't last as long as the doctor says they will. (3 to 18 months)

It wasn't until after I got these that I was able to do much of anything. Now I can't do everything I want, but I am able to do more than I could.I still deal with pain but it's more controllable.

Hope this is useful to you.

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I agree one hundred percent. I "restarted" physician therapy on Thursday. My entire body is a little sore but overall I feel very good.
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I feel much better after a workout, but I do feel sore. I just remember to ice and heat as needed and soak in some epsome salts at least twice a week..Take care of yourself and your body will work with you.


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SANDYJAS, wow am I impressed with how you responded to everyone personally. emoticon

For me, I cancelled my appointment yesterday with the surgeon today. I woke up yesterday morning and what hasn't worked for 12 weeks (inability to move legs when standing straight up, inability to walk on heels or toes) suddenly worked as of 6am. I called the doctor's office to get their opinion and they said it was my decision. First they thought I had rods and they could see if they were broken, but when I told them all I had was my own bone they knew there wasn't much they would be able to tell. So, I decided how do you go to the doctor with what was wrong.

I am still in a lot of pain. I think there are new old muscles getting a strong workout. My low back still is deeply painful, but that has been where my pain has been daily since I was 14. I am hoping that in a few weeks I will get back to my normal manageable pain levels. I was quite concerned waking up this morning that the switch could go back on that screwed everything up to begin with and I would have cancelled the appointment. But that didn't happen, so here is to hoping.

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Sorry about the physical therapy evaluation causing you injury. These can be really rough. Let us know what the surgeon said. I hope you are feeling better.

Klymers
I'm glad the physical therapy helps. I had SI injections, that didn't work well for me. It turned out that facet joint injections are very helpful for me when two levels and two sides are done at once. My doctor said that my insurance will only cover one side at a time for next time. So far, so good, for me, it has been around 6 weeks since my injections and I am still doing well. Have you tried an interferential unit? I had a TENS that didn't help that much. The interferential unit supposedly goes deeper into the muscles. Let us know what the meylogram comes up with.

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I like the stability ball for sitting, too. A physical therapist told be you work your abs just sitting on it. Glad you are able to do some walking. Warm water pool exercise was painful for me, but I loved the steam room afterwards. It ultimately wasn't worth it because the aqua therapy and the class caused worse pain, so I quit going.

Florida Girl,
I hear you on the frustration. I hope you and I can both find exercises we can to that make us better, not worse.

SlimmerKiwi, I am glad you did find exercises you can do. The one-on-one Pilates sounds like a great thing.

Ms_Sweetheart, glad it works for you. I love the energy I get from working out, too. What I don't like is that the next day I am wracked with pain working out. I don't care if it causes pain while I do it.

I'm still trying to find workouts I can do. It is constant trial and error, but I try to do some exercise each day.

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FLORIDAGIRL796, have you tried chair exercises/yoga? When you get a chance go to YOUTUBE and check out chair exercises. The entire routine is done seated. That's what I started out doing, and now I've moved on to walking.

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The first 5 minutes or so, is always the hardest. But after that, the pain starts to ease up, and I feel better. I have more energy on the days that I workout.

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Exercise CAN make my back and hips worse.

Most of my walking exercise is done in fairly short bursts within my own home - putting my groeries and laundry away one at a time. Then I can sit if pain sets in. I always manage 10 minutes' worth, and sometimes can get up to 20-25 minutes. My other form of exercise is Pilates. A practicing Physiotherapist/qualified Pilates Instructor takes small classes and I go once a week. When we start I tell her what part of me is painful and how it is affecting me, and she often does the exercises which helps in those areas. It helps to ease the pain and free up some more movement! I generally go once a week for a one hour class, and she gives physical hands-on adjustments - even 1" can make all the difference between doing it properly or causing more problems.

I took my spine and hip x-rays for her to look at so that she could see what would be appropriate and what wouldn't.

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For the last two years I was faithfully exercising. I needed pain pills before and sometimes afterwards but I was physically in much better shape and I definitely mentally feeling good as I had accomplished so much.

After going to be manually stretched by a new PT, he caused me to injure myself during the evaluation. Now I am fairly severe pain doing nothing and using Percocet to just manage. I understand FLORIDAGIRL796
feelings but I do not know what I will do if I can't get back to were I was after my previous 6 surgeries. I had somewhat of a life. Now, I walk and I lay down in the recliner and feel worthless. I see a surgeon on Tuesday hopefully to get new images and see if the fusion has been broken.

So in the pain I am in, I can't exercise until I figure out what has happened.

Overall, before this, in answer to the question, exercise is worth it if you have pain meds to hide the pain. If nothing else the mental benefit of knowing you accomplished something is worth it.

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I was doing aqua aerobics after my back surgery it hurt some but just kept doing it. Since the diabetic neuropathy in my right leg haven't been able to do much exercising so am currently in physical therapy which is helping a little bit. I go in Monday to have SI injections so am hoping that will help some. I also am on a heavy dosage of gabapenten and Lyrica and use a TENS unit so it isn't the best. They are also going to to a CT Meylogram on Thursday of my lower back where I had the fusion to compare to the one I had six months since my back pain has increased.

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The only exercising that I can do is walking and very little on the stability ball. I use the stability ball to sit on and keep my balance and that helps me keep my back in a stronger condition. I try to walk at lease 1/2 mile a day and then lay down and rest my back for about 20 minutes and then I get up and do stuff around the house. I just have to not over do it or i will be down for the day.

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Worse.
If I walk around the entire block I am unable to do anything else for the rest of the day. If I walk for a few houses and back, I start to hurt after a few hours. If I stand and do the dishes for more than 5 minutes, I am done for the day. I keep gaining weight. I went from P90x to clothes that have an X. I stretch and in a few hours I have to pop pills.
I keep thinking that there has to be something I can do that won't end my whole day. But here I am almost 2 years later & I haven't found it.

I just want to be able to function. I'm not looking to be able to be where I was before. I just want to not have to break up every chore I try to do.
I want to be active enough to walk my dogs around the block.

My physical therapy did nothing as well. It hurt no matter what exercise they tried. Of course, they didn't try much as it was work comp.

Very frustrating!

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I'm really on the fence about exercise. I was in physical therapy last summer, and the whole time, my pain kept getting worse and worse. My physical therapist said that physical therapy was just not working for me, so we terminated it.

Six weeks ago, I got facet joint injections. I have been relatively pain free ever since. Yay!

But now, whenever I exercise, I get really sore for a few days. It doesn't seem to matter whether it is an exercise DVD, a class, or the exercises my physical therapist gave me.

My tendency is to not want to exercise. But studies show that people with back problems that do the best, are the ones who follow an exercise program.

What's your experience been?

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