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11/25/12 11:13 P

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We have several women who where the veil in ourparish. I too am wanting to do this but have not yet. No reason for the delay, just havent got a veil to do it.




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10/13/12 3:19 P

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I think it's wonderful that you feel the reverence to dress modestly and to cover your head. When we go to Church we are in the presence of our Lord.

I always wear a mantilla and I only attend the Tridentine Mass. I'm lucky since I have access to a daily Tridentine Mass where I live.

The most important thing is to do God's will. I find that I rather play it safe and stick to what the Church has taught for thousands of years. What is true is always true. The truth does not change.

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EV,

If you went to St. John Chrysostom in Columbus, they still have a Slovak rite ( www.thecatholicdirectory.com/directo
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Wow! As they say maybe some day i'll get to go to the big city. But really that would be cool to get to go and shop at that many. Hope you all have a good day!

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We are SOOO blessed to have a Latin Mass in Tacoma now on Sunday evenings! This is one that is in union with the Church. I think there are two other groups in Tacoma who are not. I do wear a lacy veil when I attend the Latin Mass but not when I go to the English mass. I don't like to use the word "Novus Ordo" because I have some schismatic relatives who totally abuse that phrase.

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4 Catholic Shops seem like a lot but we actually had to into another state. LOL- We went to two in Northern VA and 2 in DC, one is located at Catholic University. We have 2 in our area (two different counties) but they are very small and not very well stocked. Maybe one day I'll get to finishing the ones I started. :)

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Hi glad to see your well and thank for the update (4 Catholic Shops) I only know of 1 any were in our area. But glad you found them, made when you finish yours you will still show us. God Bless and have a great weekend

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Update- Never did finish making my own mantilla but I was able to buy a black and a white one at a Catholic Shop in Northern VA. A friend from church and I went searching on Wednesday- we ended up in 4 Catholic Shops and ended at the National Shrine. It was a great day- she purchased two as well. That being said, I've been just covering with a scarf.

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Thank you for the suggestions, Ev!
I haven't had a chance to look at it again, but plan to tomorrow night after my dh gets off work.

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CJ, have you found a way to repair the chapel rosary? If not I might have two suggestions for you. See if any of your friends have beading as a hobby and they may be able to help. There is also a company that sells beads who help beaders over the phone. It is Fire Mountain. I would have to search to find the web site for you, but I'd be happy to do just that.

Of all things, Bob had it!! www.firemountaingems.com/

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I love hats. I wish they would be in style once more. Whenever I wore one to Mass, Father always told me how happy it made him to see me each week because of my hats.

I really wish members would insist on following more of the customs of the church. Perhaps they don't because we are now made up of so many different cultures. My church in Ohio (Byzantine Rite) was one of the last to have a Slovak Mass and prayers/responses during Easter and Christmas. After our monsignor died, I'm sure that was stopped, too. emoticon

Cheers to being able to attend a LAtin Mass!

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Cj- I responded on your wall about the rosary

Oh how I wish we had a Latin Mass!

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Thanks for that link - I just spent an enjoyable time looking at some of her other videos as well.


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What a great topic. I have wanted to cover my head for mass, but in my area no-one wears a head covering. Although I have a vacation coming up and will be able to attend my first ever Latin Mass at which I plan to wear a pashmina type scarf as a head covering.

When I was looking into head coverings I found this video on youtube that helped me to learn what was appropriate. There are a lot of suggestions and examples, but the conclusion is that something is always better than nothing.
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I have heard many people mention that about attending the Tridentine Mass, MAREANNIE, that increased expression of modesty and outward reverence.

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I, too, am glad this topic was raised. Yes, indeed, times have changed...but for the better??? I can appreciate that many go to Church/Mass in jeans and casual clothing and better that they attend, no matter what they wear. Then, there is the issue of many attending Mass in what I view, as extremely inappropriate clothing...revealing shirts with breasts and tummies exposed, extremely short skirts or shorts, EM on the altar with light sleeveless tops, pants/jeans that are very tight and revealing, and on and on. I groan and am saddened at the lack of respect shown in the House of the Lord. When did reverence go out of style? I always attend Mass in clothing that I feel is conservative and respectful, and wear a light sweater or shrug over a sleeveless top if it is hot (and it has been very hot here!). When I am able to attend our Latin Mass (held once monthly) I wear my Chapel Veil, as several other women do. I guess that is one of the many reasons I love attending our Latin Mass. Parishioners celebrating Mass with humility, modesty and reverence.

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So glad that this topic has been brought up again!

It comes up now and again, and always sparks (heehee - we're on sparks) such good discussions.

To bring up the other topic mentioned just below - how would one go about repairing a rosary? I was at Adoration months ago, and had forgotten my rosary. I checked the "rosary basket", and took one out. It was broken. I fished out all the beads, and put it in my change purse to take home and ask dh to repair it (he's usually good at repairing things). He did not know how, so now I feel badly that I still have one of the chapel rosaries sitting idle in my house.

I was thinking the other day to purchase a couple new ones, and place them in the basket, but is there a way to repair them when the beads have all come loose and fallen off?

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Hi Snowyoga,

I wasn't sure where to post pictures on here- I don't think I can. I added 2 pictures on my sparkpage as a blog. :)

God Bless!

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That's really cool you make rosary's too? I had a friend that makes them, maybe you will show us the ones you make. Please and have a really nice day emoticon

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didn't get to make the veil last night for today's Holy Day as I was making a Rosary for a friend so that I could get it blessed tonight. Hopefully I can work on it this weekend. :)

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I miss the website and here it is for all to see

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If you think it sounds great, you shound see it, at the website

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making a veil sounds like a great idea

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I wore hats for sometime but now I have my hair short and find hats do not work for me. I got compliments on my hats at church here ever I wore one.

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As in hats, they would be more of the kind that you would find in the second hand stores. Or the movies like in the fancy hat stores (Easter Parade, Hello Dolly) and some of the older ones. I guess if you were to go to New York, or Chicago some place like that they might still have hat stores like that, but they might cost a pretty price. Thanks for the up date on your head cover and I would really like to see the pictures when your done. And as for the teen girls dress at church that's what I was meaning to. There is a time and a place for every thing that's what I think. Have a nice night

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I wanted to do the hat thing because quite honestly I like hats- there doesn't seem to be a lot out there though that are "normal". They are either extremely casual or extremely extravagent.

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Grew up in the era of hats in the late fifties, then progressed to the 'chapel veil'. Since most in society are not into wearing hats these days, i would be hard pressed to find any that did seem serviceable. Certainly no ball caps! Generally, I dress as if I am going out for at the very least a business meeting or at best, a dress-up event. I live in a resort community, where we see shorts and flip flops, bare shoulders and low cut tops. I wish more showed proper reverence, but that is out of my control. I do what I can to reflect reverence, then let it go.

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and wanted to say, THANK YOU Everyone for weighing in. I wasn't really sure who to ask about this and I love hearing everyone's opinion on it.

Crimscout- thank you! It truly is a blessing that my parents are accepting God's Love finally!

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My parish is fairly modern. There are people there in flip flops (Jesus wore sandles right?) and shorts and people there in suits. Far more of the flip flops though. I can't say that I find it distracting what other people are wearing or doing. My only issue truly with what some of the young girls are wearing is simply for safety (how it is perceived by others- you can see the innocents in their faces but their bodies say I'm "ready"). My mother was extremely laid back about what we chose to wear growing up. Guess I just ended up a modest dresser anyway (my kid sister wears daisy dukes and halter tops- then again she weighs 116 and is 5'6").

SNOWYOGA,

I just started sewing so I'm not sure how well it will turn out but I've read a bunch of different things and I'm just some what combined what I've read to figure it out.

This link has been helpful as I really didn't know that I should sew the trim on first:
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This has been by far the best I've found so far on how to make one. When I wanted to make a skirt I googled it and there were a million tutorials. The mantilla= not a whole lot.

That being said apparently it's a simply triangle. Anywhere from 36"-50" across (the forehead) and 25"-27" deep (the point of the triangle).

Basically I'm just going to wing it.

Purchased:
1 yard of inexpensive lace ($3.49 on sale, not fancy by any means but I don't want to mess up something fancy on my first one)
2.5 yards of trim that matched the lace (1.99 on sale and pretty nice looking so hopefully makes up for the inexpensive lace)

I intend on sewing something inside of it to make it stay on my head. I haven't figured out what exactly because I have super fine, thinning hair so I'm not sure that the traditional combs will work and by my experience making wigs I already know that bobby pins will not stay.

I'm hoping to have a little left over material to make some smaller ones for the family that may be wearing also (2 sets of triplets WOW!!).

I'll post some pictures when I get one finished- hoping I can complete one tonight for tomorrows holy day of obligation. :)

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Hi to all. ROSARYGIRL, I want to say thank you for bringing this question up. I really like the idea. And as for what some people wear to church is amazing was said, I think that the most important thing to me is the why your there and for who. But sometimes the clothing (or lack of it is a distraction) But I to want to check with my Catholic book store about a head covering. And if it's ok to ask, how are you making yours, or did you find a pattern? Thanks again and God Bless everyone

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I too was raised with wearing something on my head and we have a lot of woman who still do in my parish

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I'd just love to see the young ladies cover their bodies appropriately at Mass.
And maybe have them be able to follow with the new wording.
And the arrogant older ladies who make sure they let everyone know they are displeased with what someone else is doing.
I just get upset with people who are concentrating with the letter of the law and not the spirit.
Didn't Jesus bring " mercy not justice."?

But if you are following your heart when you are covering your head,
Then the Lord be with you for you are with Him.

This is just my opinion.

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I was raised wearing something on my head... I'll be 57 in December. I think the head covering went south after Vatican 2, with a lot of our traditions...
Anyhoo! I have really been feeling I should begin wearing something again. I attend weekly Mass at two Parishes where the ladies are beginning to wear a veil of some sort again. My Jewish girlfriends think I should have been wearing something ever since I returned to the Church five years ago... I'm going to look at my local Catholic shop to see what they have. The Temple where my friend's DH is Cantor had some lovely beaded coverings.
I've never cared what people think, although I try to be respectful of others. I've let my Priest know if he thinks I do something inappropriate, then tell me! My Parish is traditional, and I love it! I am a Lector, so I dress conservatively.
I also wear a lot of black! LOL! But then I am a hairdresser, and black looks professional at work.
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Update::

So I contacted a woman at my church who is what I feel to be a devout Catholic. Interestingly enough, she has been pondering the same thing lately. She has 9 children, 7 of which are female. She said "heck if you will I will too! and I'll try to get the girls to do so also!". Really?!?! How incredible is that?! How nice to know I'm not alone! She's been a member of the parish for a very long time. She advised that she thinks if we do it it's quite possible that others have had the same longing to do so but haven't known how to start. That perhaps we will give them the courage to do what's in their hearts if they are feeling moved to do so.

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Thank you both for your responses!

Teddybear- My husband and I have conversations about appropriate dress to church probably at least once a week LOL! DH is very conservative, so he feels that everyone should be and everyone should wear what he finds to be "appropriate" clothing. I happen to be a modest dresser anyway and so what I wear (other than my wardrobe being mostly black which totally angers him- hey, it's easy to coordinate!) usually isn't an issue. I'm a little shocked when I see tweens and teen girls wearing things that I wouldn't allow them to walk out of the house wearing to go anywhere let alone church but to each their own. Hey, like your Msgr, I'm glad they are going. As for sleeveless, I don't wear sleeveless but I don't wear anything sleeveless outside of church. If it's what you like then I don't see an issue with it myself.
A couple of weeks ago (or maybe it's been months), someone said "what are you going Amish?". This person is quite a bit older than I am (I'll be 35 next month) so I found it odd and I admit I stuttered my response of "well I just feel like I should". I would have thought that someone going through "pre Vatican II" would have not been as insensative about it.

Either way, thank you both for your support. I'll update as to how it goes. I bought some materials today to make a veil as buying one seems to be a little difficult in my neck of the woods as all the Catholic Shops have weird hours and seem to only have ones made for children. I could buy one online I suppose but the cost to make one seems a lot less.

Pray that I have the strength to dismiss the stares and snickers!

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Hummm... this has made me really think.

First off, I'm an EM and I would say near Easter and Christmas is when I see women in my parish wearing veils when I serving. And out of all I see it would be about 5 a year! So not very big in my parish.

My two sons like to ask our Msgr & Priest questions, so this will be a good question for ME to ask, hee hee.

I also belong to a MOMS Ministry and I'll definitely ask all the women next month. I know it has come up during our meetings in the past, but I don't remember what was said. There are women in my MOMS Ministry that are VERY religious and they know SO much about this faith. I wish to be like them some day, anyways, they never wear something on their head. If it was something we had to do, they would be wearing it. But can't wait to ask them!

So MY OPINION... is that it is no longer needed, unless YOU want to do it.

As for people looking, I'm sure it is going to happen, I know the 1st women I saw, I looked, but I thought how beautiful and wonderful she looked! I say go for it if you feel you should and be PROUD!

I'm always hot in my church... and we have AC (hee hee)... someone once said to me it was wrong to wear what I was wearing... a sleeveless shirt. I was really worried I was doing something wrong, so I asked our Msgr. His answer was it was fine! He pointed out all the children who come in their jeans, short skirts, T-Shirts, etc. Then he said he looks more at it that he is very happy that they came to mass. They may not be in their Sunday best, which would be nice, but they CAME and that is what is most important! I had to agree! My boys (now 11 and 13) will at times wear jeans too. I made the rule they had to have a collared shirt at lease. Times have changed and I think the church is trying to go with it. But there is still some "respect" and most church goers will try to do their best. Am I bad for wearing sleeveless shirts each week? I don't feel so. I still make sure I'm dressed nicely and not only the days I'm an EM (wink). I want to look my best for my God and If he has made me this way... hot ALL the time... then I feel he's okay with who I am/how I dress. My favorite poster I had as a child... "I'm okay. God doesn't make Junk!" I believe that!

Blah blah blah... sorry for going on and on. I guess I spent my first years going to masses worrying if I'm doing everything right. Now I have learned to just do what is in my heart and who cares about the "shares" "Comments", etc. I know I'm a good person and that is all that matters! So wear your veil if you wish! Be proud of you! and if you get stares, may be they are just thinking how amazing you are that you have the GUTS to do what they want to do! If they come back with any rude comments, "wish them a good day" and say a prayer for them (wink).

Last, I saw this site. Gets a little confusing for me (why we wear a veil), but just in case you are interested. Have a wonderful and bless day!
www.catholicplanet.com/women/headcov
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Praise God for your parents returning to the faith and for you being such a great witness!Check out this website...it may help.
http://catholicexchange.com/are-women-ob
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So, as some know, I am new to the faith. Or rather, I have returned to the faith as I had been baptised however spent my life as an atheist until almost 2 years ago. Either way, about 6 months into my conversion I went on a pilgrimage. I noticed LOTS of women covering their heads and it intrigued me. What did it mean? Why were they doing it? Now, I want to add that before I entered the church I had been wearing a wig (Alapecia). I wore a wig one time to church- I felt so guilt ridden. As if I was saying that God hadn't made me perfect just the way I was and I felt as if I was "hiding". I decided then that I would never wear a wig again. And definitely never to church. Six months later I see these incredible women and decide to do some research. I learn why they are covering their heads. I think that it's great however I don't think about it much after that... until June of this year. Both my parents are terminally ill. Neither can make it to church. They weren't going to church before this however both are Catholic. They had fallen away. I think through me the Holy Spirit touched them. They wanted to repent (both have had confession now, thank you GOD!). They wanted to know love. Working through my parish our Priest has allowed me to provide my parents with Communion (my parents live on opposite sides (divorced) of the county and our Priest has recently had surgery). I am very humbled by being allowed to do so. I don't even think humbled covers it. There are no words to describe it. Immediately I started feeling the urge to cover my head in Mass and Adoration (I do one hour a week of Adoration). It was very profound. And very confusing. Because as horrible as it sounds I didn't want to feel the "looks". NO ONE covers their head at our parish at least not at the Mass I attend. And I shouldn't care and I know this. So first I devised a sort of headband- coordinated with skirts that I had made. This didn't feel right though- as if I didn't want to admit what I was really doing. Then I found a beret, that worked well but truthfully is a bit hot (knit and our parishes AC goes out frequently). I want to wear a mantilla, I don't have any words to explain why but I do. And I plan to do so very soon.

So I guess my question is, anyone else covering? If so, have you met with any questioning looks or comments? The first couple times I covered it was with a scarf and this did get questioned (nicely but awkward just the same).. If so, how to you reply without sounding like your being "holier than thou"- because that isn't my intention at all. It is something I feel called to do. I'm totally accepting of someone not being called to do so.
Any suggestions?

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