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yes that is great

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Well, not back to the church yet. He was baptized, attended church (Anglican and Mennonite - don't ask, long story) as a child, but does not practise anything now. I just figure that God is leading Him, and the Holy Spirit knows what He is doing. I am just very heartened when I see movements towards the Church; it reminds me that God is in charge.

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glad your brother went back to church what a gift

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Thank you all!

And thank you for your input, Father Bob, I appreciate your information and support!

Your words, "there is no basis for baptism" especially struck me. That is what I felt in my heart.

And what you say about teaching moments and a prophet being heard in his own town to be so very true.

My brother was conditionally-baptized (Anglican, but obviously recognized by the Catholic Church) when we adopted him as a pre-school-aged child. We found out later he had already been baptized in a Catholic church as an infant. For years, I agonized about how to 'reach' him, how to preach the Gospel to him. No opportunity presented itself. I thought it was my failing until I saw a quote about no matter how much I desire someone's conversion, Christ wants it even more!

I let go of it, and I saw miracles in my brother's life! His young daughter began asking questions about why her cousins went to church, and they didn't! She wanted to learn about God and Jesus, so any time she had questions, her mother would direct her to me for answers, and wished me to answer them as I would answer my own children. Also, they accepted graciously any Christmas/Nativity or Easter Story books we gave as gifts.

My brother, unbeknownst to me, also began attending some adult education evenings put on by another parish. I saw him there one evening, and realized (not for the first time, lol!) that God indeed works in strange and wonderful ways!

Thank you again.

cj

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3/11/12 8:14 A

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tough question - definitely a priest needs to be consulted!

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My husband is agnotstic, but is supportive of my rediscovering my faith. I was very angry with the church at 1 time and realized i let others bad actions affect me. Over a year ago i started attending mass and he is even supporting my lent changes.

We don't have kids yet, but he has said that he would be supportive of having them brought up an an environment where faith is a gift and and not simply a chore or obligation. He sees how i am with faith and realizes what it is to witness grace.

I have heard of agnostic parents letting their school aged children learn about faith and they may even attend faith formation classes with neighbors.

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thank you for sharing Father

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Yes, good luck and encouragement! It is not easy being the "token Catholic" in the family, although many more catholics find themselves in exactly that situation.

If I may summarize: There is no basis for baptism. No responsible parish would celebrate the baptism or encourage it. The Catholic Church does not baptize for the good of the baby's soul, but for the strengthening of the Catholic family. The child is most definitely not damned or anything of the sort, if he/she is not brought for baptism, so you needn't worry about that.

On the other hand, the birth of a child can be a good "teaching moment" in the life of a young family, and how wonderful it would be, if the parents sought the deeper spiritual meaning of their new child's life. Trouble is, no prophet is heard in his own town, so a relative is not a good preacher! The simple, unscripted example of your life as a Catholic is a wonderful homily, and if and when they are ready, these young people will learn from that.

Thank you for being you.

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wishing you good luck with this and peace

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Thank you for all your responses!

And thank you Jane, for the very helpful link! It did have a lot of pertinent information in there!

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thanks for sharing

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Although this situation is not quite the same, the answer includes some helpful references to canon law: catholicexchange.com/why-do-we-need-
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I would and if you know a priest talk with them

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Ask the priest certainly. If there are practicing godparents who are willing to see to the childs religious formation and the parents are agreeable, this may be possible. If the parents do not agree, then this would be a problem. I agree that the Baptism would be good for the soul of the baby, but the priest will be able to give a concrete answer here.

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I'd ask a priest about it... Tough situation. It would be good for the baby to be baptised, just for it's soul's sake...I would think. I don't know...

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I agree-a priest who is doing things correctly wouldn't baptize the baby. And if the family isn't practicing,why do they care? Probably b/c it's 'what they do'. It's so very sad...


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Thanks for the reply, Dee. That's what I thought.

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Our pastor wouldnt baptized the baby the parents arent praticing




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Question for all the lovely Critters out there!

My niece got married last summer. She was never baptized as a child.
None of her immediate family practises any sort of faith. She got married by some sort of off-shoot off-shoot Protestant (not mainstream) 'minister'.

Anyway, she and her new husband are expecting a baby in the late summer.

Her new husband was most likely baptized Catholic. However, neither he nor his family is practising apart from his family participating at Mass C and E I think.

That family is pressuring the newlyweds to baptize the child, even though my niece is more or less agnostic, and her husband is not practising anything.

I was asked (as the token Catholic in the family, lol) what I thought about it all, and I said that I did not think it was possible for a priest to baptize an infant of non-practising and non-BELIEVING parents. I said that occasionally a mixed marriage would have one non-practising parent, but the other would profess the faith before the baptism, and the other parent would remain silent.

Is it even possible for this baby to be baptized if the parents do not wish it?

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