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Over here in my parish, not many wear the veil at mass. Those who do are the much older generation [abt 60+ plus]. They usually wear a triangle lacy black veil which covers till the neck. They put it on before entering church, not sure when they take if off.

Anyway, I still think it's nice to see some women wearing the veil to mass! emoticon So if anyone wants to wear a veil to mass for honouring God, pls do so.

I also believe that while the externals are important, so too is the internal!

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Countingsheep, for the TLM any headcovering will do. At our church we see mantillas, hats, scarves, kerchiefs tied behind the head, etc. If you attend a Latin Mass that is offered by a Priestly Fraternity priest there will usually be mantillas in a box at the back of the church and an usher will encourage you to take one if your head isn't covered.


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Maybe I misunderstood what our priest said. I think I will speak to him about this in the morning.

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Sorry I didn't read all your post before I posted.It really is confusing. I suppose it's a matter of personal preference. I will have to read up more on it as well.

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Oops. I was editing my post when you replied. Sorry about that.

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According to our priest it was one of the things that slipped through the cracks when things were being rewritten after Vatican 2 and because it was never addressed people took advantage and stopped wearing them. I'm a bit confused myself. I only know what he told me and he's the best priest we've ever had. I know I shouldn't be worried about what other people think, the whole purpose of wearing a veil is out of respect for Jesus not anyone else.

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I was looking it up last night. Apparently, it was removed from Canon Law in 1983, so women could not be penalized for NOT wearing them, but did not really address the issue. It seems like it is no longer required.

I was then reading that it is voluntary, but that that does not mean it is optional. What on earth does that mean?

I sure don't understand that.

Plus, the reasons to veil that I have been reading don't even make any sense to me. And, again, please don't think me argumentative, simply questioning.

The main reason I can find is that St. Paul said that, “But every woman praying or prophesying with her head uncovered disgraces her head, for it is the same as if she were shaven” (1Cor. 11:5).

I don't know about anyone else, but this bothers me. I've been told that women cover their heads to honour God. How is 'not disgracing my head' honouring God? And does it mean that a woman with a shaved head (or one with no hair from chemo) is somehow dishonouring God?

Elsewhere, I read that the reason to veil was as follows:

"Now one reason for the use of veils is wrapped up in
the mystery of a woman’s femininity which can bear children. At the moment of conception, when God creates a soul and it joins its body in the womb of its mother, God’s creative hands work within her, and since whatever God touches becomes sacred, we veil it."

So, why only cover a woman's hair? Is that the only sacred part of her after she has had a child? ISn't the rest of her sacred then? Why isn't our whole body veiled?

And doesn't God touch others every time they receive Communion? Why aren't men and women veiled?

Still doesn't make any sense to me.

I will pray about it for guidance from the Holy Spirit. Many times in the past, I have not understood something and God has shown me His Truth. I presume this will happen again in His time.

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Edited by: CJBAGGINS at: 8/30/2010 (16:14)
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I should talk to her about it, I see her every morning almost. I was talking to our priest about wearing veils and he said it was never supposed to have stopped. Women should still be wearing them. Just one more thing that lost on the way.

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We worry sometimes what others will think, don't we?

Are you able to strike up a conversation with the one woman who wears one? I wonder if she would have some suggestions?

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I have a veil and would love to wear it. There is only one older lady who wears one at our church. I don't know why I lose my nerve when it comes to putting it on.

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Someone asked why we would wear a veil and I didn't see an answer.

The reason for the veil is to cover a women's hair. It is called their "glory" in the Bible and so the veil was to be worn so as "not" to compete with God's glory.

Tradition has girls wear the small round white veils. Women, esp married women, were to wear black, longer veils.

I have only seen a couple of women wear a veil at my church. I go on Sat. night, not sure if that has an effect or not. The middle age woman that wore one wore a beige mantilla type. The other wears a triangle scarf at all times that I have seen here.

I bought a black "mantilla" type which is a longer ... slightly below the shoulders ... and carry it in my purse. Haven't worn it yet.

I try to remember to at least put my hair into a barrette of some type so it is not down, since I have started growing it longer.

As far as using my hands, I am old school, one of the few in my church who doesn't take the host in my hands. I have only held it a couple of times and am very uncomfortable doing it. All stand at reception in my church, but I would kneel if there was a rail. I wouldn't be able to get back up without one.

I also see a lot of people "chew" the host. Not right .. it should be held on your tongue until it gets soft enough to swollow without chewing. If you take both the host and the wine/blood, the wine will help it soften faster.

I hold the host in my mouth until after I pray the Anima Christi and pray for my family in the pew.

Edited by: EMILYD1952 at: 8/30/2010 (01:34)
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My goodness, what a rich discussion. I hope you guys don't mind me giving replies to a few posts at once!!

"[USE2BAGODDESS] In terms of touching the host, Eucharistic Ministers touch the host when they distribute Communion. Does this change the sacredness of the sacrament at all?

And how is touching the host any worse than consuming it, letting our saliva touch it? (and please know that I'm not trying to be argumentative here or anything, I actually want to know what people think about this. It often overwhelms me that Jesus would allow us to consume Him, and it often makes me feel unworthy to take Him into my body, touching Him with my hand OR my mouth)."

It's not a matter of touching the consecrated host being "worse" than consuming it. The main issue is ensuring the Body can not be desecrated. The other issue is the potential for small pieces of the Body to stick to your fingers, and fall to the floor. That is the traditional reason for receiving the Body on the tongue, and for the patens the acolytes/servers use. If you watch the Priest closely during the consecration, you should see him very deliberately making sure his fingers are kept together until they are brushed off into the Blood. The same with the patens, ciborium, and anything which has touched/contained the Body or Blood after Communion. Any Priest worth his salt will be extraordinarily watchful of this.

As a side note, EMEs are only to be used as an exception when there are too many of the faithful for the Priest to handle alone, they're not supposed to be regularly used.

"[MRSJARI] We have been told Not to kneel, and the priest has actually refused to give Communion to someone kneeling until they stand."

Holy cow, that Priest could not be more wrong!!! Here's a quote directly from the 2003 GIRM, "The norm for reception of Holy Communion in
the dioceses of the United States is standing. Communicants should not be denied Holy
Communion because they kneel."

COUNTINGSHEEP: Any head covering will do. No worries!

DAISY_GURL_4: I think it's wonderful you're going in this direction! My wife and daughters have begun wearing veils and scarves to Mass, since we've began attending a church where it's unusual for women not to. I think it's so beautiful to see the women and girls displaying how special they are! There are no rules on what color, or how long or short the veils need to be. Veils are supposed to be worn upon entering the nave of the church, and worn until you leave. Don't be embarrassed of looking weird or sticking out. Heck, women were required by Canon Law to wear them until 1983!!! I think you'll find that you motivate some other women to wear them, but don't be discouraged if some responses are less than Christian. Best of luck, and God bless!!



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I don't really know. That's a good question. I would probably just use a black bobby pin in it. It would be noticeable, but not as much as it falling off and you scrambling to replace it on your head, I imagine.

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I got one of my chapel veils today (YAY!) but I can't quite figure out how best to ensure it stays on my head.

Here is it:
www.aquinasandmore.com/catholic-gifts/Blac
k-Round-Shaped-Point-DEspirit-Chapel-V
eil/sku/21995


It is round and the lace is very fine so I'm not sure how to use a bobby pin (which has been suggested by others) to hold it down without ruining the look of the veil.

Any suggestions?

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I got knocked off this thread, so didn't even know you had posted at the beginning of the month.

I'm afraid I don't know the protocol for wearing chapel veils. Perhaps others may have some pointers for you, and as we've moved this thread up to the top now, they may see it.

I really like the second veil. So pretty yet not flashy.

cj

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I just purchased two chapel veils online! They haven't arrived yet but I'm very excited.

Yes, I know I'm silly and bought two but I suppose it can't hurt, right? emoticon

I purchased this one to wear to Mass - I like that it is smaller and I think it will blend a little more with my dark brown hair. Considering that I don't attend a Latin mass where it is custom for all women to wear a chapel veil, I was worried that wearing one of the longer ones would distracting other church goers
www.aquinasandmore.com/catholic-gifts/Blac
k-Round-Shaped-Point-DEspirit-Chapel-V
eil/sku/21995


I also purchased this one because I just thought it was so pretty emoticon I want to switch to this one when I get more comfortable wearing a chapel veil and I also want to attend Mass at the one local church that says the Latin Mass on occasion (they say it at 9am every Sunday and also 9am the first Saturday of every month and I hope the attend the later once a month so I don't completely abandon the parish I am already a member of that I really like)

www.aquinasandmore.com/catholic-gifts/Blac
k-Triangular-Shaped-Medium-Point-DEspi
rit-Lace-Chapel-Veil/sku/21989


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This is a really interesting thread - a chapel veil is something that I've been thinking of getting for a while.

I usually attend the 11:15am Mass at my church and have yet to see anyone wear a veil. This is usually the mass with the most young people (teens, etc) and it is already difficult to see how immodestly they dress (I'm 27) and my parents would have whipped me good if I ever suggested wearing some of the short dresses/skirts I see girls wearing...oh and the number of people wearing jeans and a teeshirt! Oh my!

I am slowly rediscovering my faith after a few years of sitting on the fence. Now that I'm getting older, recently married and hoping to start a family soon, I want to be firm in my faith to ensure I bring my children up properly in the church.

I really like the idea of a chapel veil but honestly I'm hesitant about standing out. I'm honestly thinking about attending one of the earlier services.

I'm wondering...what is proper etiquette for a chapel veil. When do you put it on and when do you take it off? Is there a certain length that is appropriate for certain ages? As a married woman, could I wear a white or ivory one if I like (although I have seen some beautiful black ones)?

I really like some of the smaller ones that I've come across (like this one http://www.aquinasandmore.com/catholic-gifts/Black-Round-Shaped-Point-DEspirit-Chapel-Veil/sku/21995) because they are a little more low key - and that is more so I don't distract people from mass than anything else.

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I got my chapel veils! :D


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I would like to attend a latin Mass and found out there is one about an hour away from me. Do I need a proper chapel veil or will any scarf or headcovering be acceptable?


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Here are some online sites that sell the chapel veils:

http://www.modestyveils.com/modesty_004.htm
http://www.sacramentals.org/
http://www.aquinasandmore.com/title/Chapel-Veils/FuseAction/store.BrowseCategory/Category/1187
http://www.halo-works.com/category/chapel_veils_and_latin_style_mantillas/
http://stores.ebay.com/CATHOLIC-TRADITIONS




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"My children, kneel before your God in the Eucharist. Do not stand like you stand in meeting halls, but kneel and give Him a just love and observance of honor." - Our Lady of the Roses, July 14, 1979

USE2BAGODESS, I couldn't have said it better myself about receiving communion by tongue from a priest.

When we kneel, we're expressing our reverence and love for Our Lord; the same reason we kneel during the consecration.

"Because out of reverence towards this sacrament, nothing touches it, but what is consecrated; hence the corporal and the chalice are consecrated, and likewise the priest's hands, for touching this sacrament." - St. Thomas Aquinas, Doctor of the Church

No one should ever be denied communion because they choose to kneel. Here's what the Vatican says about priests denying communion to those who kneel:

From the Vatican (Congregation for the Divine Liturgy):
Even where the Congregation has approved of legislation denoting standing as the posture for Holy Communion, in accordance with the adaptations permitted to the Conferences of Bishops by the Institution Generalis Missalis Romani n. 160, paragraph 2, it has done so with the stipulation that communicants who choose to kneel are not to be denied Holy Communion on these grounds.

I as well would love to purchase a chapel veil to wear to Mass.


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I will think about it, and ask my friends, but so far the only suggestions I would have are at the end of my very loooooooong and boring previous post.

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CJ,
I've been praying and watching. I did not see it happen the first time when my mother brought it to our attention (my step-father, husband & I) I was shocked and confused on how to handle it. It's very disappointing to say the LEAST....
Any suggestions are appreciated....
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Mrs. Miller,

Thank you for sharing the link to the veils. They are beautiful.

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Sandy - sorry. Read your question yesterday and forgot to reply. I am unsure what I would do if I saw anyone acting in so disrespectful a manner to Jesus.

I have never come across that. I HAVE seen people carry the Blessed Sacrament to someone else in the building (luckily, the very wise Communion Minister caught on, followed the young girl, and proceeded to give Communion respectfully and properly to the older gentleman instead). I've also seen people delay the consuming of the host. When I see that, I point out that they need to consume (or I say eat if the person may not understand) the host immediately.

I felt ill one day at church when I was helping to clean the pews and hymnal holders and I came across the crushed remains of a host. I immediately called the priest over and we cleaned the pieces out from the shelf as best we could and disposed of them in the required, respectful manner as he instructed me.

I would feel ill and my stomach would churn if I saw any deliberate disrespect to the Blessed Sacrament but I would have to pray for guidance first before I spoke up, so as not to get unduly angry. I would probably say something like, "Excuse me. That is Jesus' body that you are playing with. Please consume/eat it now. He is not a toy, but our Lord and Saviour."

Does anyone else have any other ideas?

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we dont have many who wear just a few here and there... and we had to when we were younger always had my viel in my pocket book

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We only have 1 parishioner wearing lace veil. I wore lace veil when I was a kid. Yup! My mom and I... that was very long time ago... And has not seen many these days.

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ok, so in researching I also found stunning little girl ones (as I've decided I am doing this and inviting my 5 year old daughter to join me).

http://stores.shop.ebay.com/CATHOLIC-TRADITIONS

I found the ones on http://www.headcoverings-by-devorah.com/Headcoverings_Veils.html the most stunning for adults.

I only wonder if there are specific rules in wearing them?

May we help to reverse some of the disrespect that is so disturbing.

I do have a question, and I apologize as it is a bit OT.... what (if anything) do you do when you see someone being disrespectful during mass and communion. We now go with my mom & stepdad, they saw someone take the host, return to their seat and balance it on their nose. I am not sure what if anything we can or should do, but I'm glad my children (5 and 7) did not see it. I'm not sure that I can stay "quiet" about it and not address it in some way. Does anyone have any suggestions?

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Thanks for the link; they're really pretty.

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I found this site when searching for more info. The veils they offer are at the bottom:

www.sacramentals.com/ChapelVeils.htm

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What type will you get? I saw another woman the other day (while we were in Quebec) wearing a lovely lacy one.

Any colour you prefer? Lace or other?

cj

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About genuflecting before receiving - that is ok in our parish, but the priest refuses to actually give you Communion if you are still genuflecting. He wants you standing to receive.

I still want a chapel veil!


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Thanks for the replies to my questions, USEDTOBEAGODDESS! I love the comment about even if you're choking to death, you cannot touch it! *snortgiggle*

I genuflect as I approach the Blessed Sacrament for Communion, but I make sure I do not hinder those behind me at all if I am in line. At our home parish, we sit in the front pew, so I do not trip any one up or anything.

I remember when I felt soooooo prompted by the Holy Spirit to genuflect before receiving. It was very very strong for me, and I felt so right when I began doing it. Everyone feels comfortable receiving in their own way, however, so I am not saying this would be right for everyone. I like to see people acknowledging Jesus with a reverent bow before receiving.

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We have been told Not to kneel, and the priest has actually refused to give Communion to someone kneeling until they stand. We do bow before receiving, though. I don't bend over because I'm afraid that I'll topple, to I more curtsy. Nobody has stopped me, so I assume it's OK!


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I also wonder about the kneeling, are some people kneeling down in the line where all the rest are standing?
I love it that my children do the bow and know how to do that... they love the idea that we are even talking about the chapel veils... have not shopped for them yet but we pray more together since even just talking about it!
Like at dinner out , or anywhere, we say grace and remember to add other things we are praying for...
I have been reading a little of the Bible morning and night, even that helps me speak of God easier.

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That is the same question or thought that I have.
I remember the sisters teaching us what to do if the host gets lodged between your teeth and basically even if you are choking you still don't touch it. If you die you have died for Christ!! LOL

I know that the church has ruled that it is ok to touch it, (and that is ok with me) but unless/until I have a good reason to I see no reason why I should be handling it.

I know that in the early church the lay people could touch the eucharist. It was at a later point when the people came unwashed and had dirty hands that they instituted the priest only rule. And that makes sense too. I also realize that over time we understand things better. Like a child growing into an adult. Some concepts are difficult to grasp as a child yet because of age and experience you can understand as an adult. I understand the sacredness much more so now. I understand the great mystery better now and am I awe of Our Lord.

I prefer not to receive from a EM if possible. That is simply a preference on my part. Like kneeling, when we attend a church that allows you to kneel I am kneeling!! For a long time I refused to go to a EM and my husband asked me the same question, Is it somehow less sacred? Well, the answer is no. Our Lord is our Lord regardless of who is distributing communion. It is the same host, the same Lord.

I prefer to receive from the priest because when the priest is at the altar he is acting in persona Christe, meaning he is Christ. Receiving communion from a priest is as close as we can get to receiving the body & blood of Christ from Christ himself.

That is why I love it when I have the opportunity to kneel and have the priest give my communion on the tongue. It is very personal to me and I know very few people feel the way that I do, and that is ok. I figure that I am the oddball! It is so overwhelming to me though.

It is a shame that we had to lose that sense of sacredness for so many years before we could start appreciating it again.


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I agree that things don't need to be discarded just for the sake of discarding them.

In terms of touching the host, Eucharistic Ministers touch the host when they distribute Communion. Does this change the sacredness of the sacrament at all?

And how is touching the host any worse than consuming it, letting our saliva touch it? (and please know that I'm not trying to be argumentative here or anything, I actually want to know what people think about this. It often overwhelms me that Jesus would allow us to consume Him, and it often makes me feel unworthy to take Him into my body, touching Him with my hand OR my mouth).

cj

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I am really happy to see interest in returning to a time when tradition and reverence was taught as being important.

I am first generation Vat II when so much was wrongly thrown out and discarded.

Funny thing is, I made my First Holy Communion in 1970 more or less. Years after Vat II, the sisters taught us NOT to touch the host. I only attended Catholic school one year, and had teaching by the sisters only one year, but in that year.......

I am 46 years old and have NEVER touched a consecrated host and neither has my 25 yr old daughter. Not that I think lightning is going to strike; however, I see no need for it. They taught us how sacred the eucharist is and I just don't have the need to touch it.

OK, maybe somewhere I am a little afraid lightning will strike me. Heaven knows, the sisters put the fear of something into me!

Anyone have the same experience?


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I have only ever seen a few women wear them where I live (Winnipeg Canada). However, at Mass at St. Paul's Cathedral in Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota this past week, a young mother was wearing a lovely lacey brown veil and her little daughters had tiny white lace caps on as well. It got me thinking about head coverings during Mass and so I was very pleased to see this discussion started. Thanks!

cj

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I love reading the replies here to my question.
I want to buy my girls and myself some various sorts of veils or scarves.
I will post back when we wear them and how it felt.
As a youngster, I remember wearing one and how it was back then.


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My daughter (mother of nine children) has worn chapel veils with all her daughters for many years and it is a devotion of their faith that they have embraced. They
have inspired others in their acquaintance to wear the veils as well. Believe they purchased them at a Catholic supplies store...

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I have had mine for quite some time. I would imagine that I found them at a Catholic gift shop, but even there pretty ones are hard to find. You might try online.

It is proper to wear one (cover your head) during the latin mass, which I attend. Otherwise, I think that it is respectful and I don't know how to explain it other than it helps keep me focused. I always pull mine a bit forward so that it limits my peripheral vision.

Also, after receiving the Eucharist I always put my face in my hands and pray. Often times I am brought to tears after receiving. I am just so overwhelmed.
Having the mantilla helps to cover my face and gives me more privacy during those moments after communion.


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Those of you who Do wear veils, Why do you wear them? I'm curious about the reasons. And where do you get them? Thanks!


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I always wear a headcovering to Mass. (Actually, I wear a headcovering whenever I'm out in public or during prayer times, but that's a whole other story.) I've had one or two people ask about it (out of curiousity, not malice), but no one's ever taken offense at it. I don't wear hats to Mass (though I often wear them elsewhere) because in our society, blocking someone's view during Mass is considered very impolite.

As far as headcoverings go, I have worn chapel caps, mantillas, scarves, a chiffon bandana (black w/ white stitching, nice when I'm going somewhere else after Mass), and so on.

The other thing I do is *never* criticize or try to persuade people who don't cover (probably part of the reason I haven't encountered hostility at our local, significantly liberal parishes). Although I think it is a "better choice", it is not required by the current law of the Church, so it is optional. If my actions nudge someone else, great. If not, in a world where so many Catholics practice birth control and can't figure out that homosexual acts are sinful, we could wind up losing the war by choosing to fight an unnecessary battle.

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They wear them in this area. We have a large Somalian group and many have converted to Catholicism so the veils and other headwear is really becoming popular again. We also have some noon Masses that are very well attended. It was so sad to see that all the ones on the East Coast (MA?) closed. Our parish doesn't have many members either but our priest keeps it going and it has grown a little.


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That sounded wrong. I try to always keep my veil in my purse (along w/my rosary, prayer book, etc..)
That way I don't have to remember to grab it.
Plus I have it with me for the times I am able to go to Eucharistic Adoration.

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It is customary to wear a mantilla or chapel veil during a Latin mass, otherwise it is not required.
When we attend the Novus Ordo Latin mass our priest says I always wear mine. In fact, I try to keep it in my purse w/me.

I really like wearing mine. It feels respectful, if that makes sense. I think that it is a wonderful thing to teach your daughters to wear a veil at mass!


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a few here also wear the scarfs too or veils

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Some, a small few, ladies in our parish wear them, and my daughter has worn them at Latin Masses. I think it's a growing custom. I want to participate but haven't yet.


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What a wonderful idea! The only ladies who wear hats at my church are older women, and mostly they wear hats in the winter; I haven't noticed any head coverings in summer, but I think they are beautiful, as well as historical.
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I want to start wearing chapel veil at Mass and am thinking of buying some for my girls, or other kinds of head coverings and teaching them about the history and teaching of the church. There are a few college age women who wear them at our church and my girls always ask me about it.
Anyone here wear a chapel veil, or as they are sometimes called ... a mantilla?emoticon

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