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11/6/08 2:42 P

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I guess I need to change my signature. . . .

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11/6/08 2:41 P

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Like the rest of us here, I am absolutely appalled and disheartened by the passage of Prop. 8 in California. Combined with the bill that passed in Alabama this constitutes an outright attack on the rights of people to build families. I fail to see how anyone can call this anything but an issue of basic human rights.

The California court system previously ruled that it was unconstitutional to apply the word "marriage" only to heterosexual unions, legalizing same-sex marriage. Hopefully, as this issue moves through the courts again, they will find that it is unconscionable to create law that removes rights from specifically designated minority populations.

All marriages that were performed during the time that such marriages were legal will continue to be valid and recognized. At least we can't take away people's rights retroactively!

I also want to make sure that we realize that this is not a Republican issue. In order for Prop. 8 to have passed, far more Californians had to vote for it than voted for John McCain.

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11/6/08 10:00 A

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I'm surprised about California too. Unfortunately, I'm sad, but surprised about the affirmative action ban here in Nebraska. This now eliminates schools and organizations ability to give scholarships designated for women and alot of other things that people don't think about before they vote! :(

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11/6/08 9:41 A

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I, too, was not only surprised, but saddened......



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11/6/08 9:06 A

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I was surprised that Prop 8 passed, too. We'll just have to keep hammering back at this bigotry until we break it down.
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11/6/08 6:50 A

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Ditto for GA

HEY YA'LL !!!!


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11/6/08 6:32 A

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At the risk of repeating myself.....

Here in Florida - part of the South - we had a woeful lack of progressive candidates for local, county and state office. Without good candidates - starting at the local level - we are going to continue to have bigots and racists in office - legislating your morality.

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11/6/08 12:44 A

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Jeannie and everyone! I agree...why is it that people feel the right or need to judge and to control others lives? It is a really sad day in that regard.

I too hope that what happened last night is a beginning of major change.

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11/6/08 12:38 A

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I don't understand a lot of things that pass here in the south either. But,as a southerner born & raised, I want you all to know that there are some of us who aren't aligned with the religious right. We go to church, we worship, we believe in God. We also believe in what God said, "Judge not lest e be judged" & " Those of you here without sin cast the first stone". I don't know why some people think they have the right to try & control other peoples lives but, I wish they would just control their own. You love who you love, it shouldn't be up to anyone else if you get married or adopt a child.
Jeannie

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11/5/08 11:53 P

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Amen!

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11/5/08 9:20 P

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This is definitely the one sad spot of the election night. Hate, fear and discrimination have no place in ANY State's Constitution!

On a brighter note, in Michigan a stem cell research proposal was approved - the religious Right lost on that one.

Edited by: KETTERERK at: 11/5/2008 (21:21)
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11/5/08 8:29 P

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In Florida it was called Amendment 2 - and, unfortunately, it passed.

Please - get involved in politics if you want to change things. Both parties need good, progressive candidates.

You can make a difference!!!
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11/5/08 8:25 P

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Its the holier than thou mentality of the republicans. judging judging judging. i cant stand it. if they would spend more time dealing with their own lives, they may find themselves a little less stuffy and a little happier.

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11/5/08 7:51 P

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I think they are saying now that they will honor the unions that happened while it was legal. The anti-prop 8 people have already filed legal action agaist the results of this election, though. We'll see what happens in court!

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11/5/08 7:28 P

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Are the unions already preformed really going to be null and void or are they going to be "grandfathered' in as it was the prevailing rule when they took place?

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11/5/08 6:06 P

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Alabama also passed that unmarried couples can not adopt or be foster parents. That is just messed up. I really don't understand the South. It's like a messed up parallel universe down there.

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I think altho it doesnt make sense to the civilized people like us, atleast the couples still h ave eachother. I know theyre hurt but atleast they have eachothers love. This country still has a lot of work to do but we took the first step last night and only good things can happen from now on.

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11/5/08 5:23 P

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In Nebraska here we had our own setback. My state voted to eliminate affirmative action in amendment to the state constitution, and it won by a lot! Colorado has the same initiative, last I saw it was too close to call there.

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MORE AND MORE STATES - are putting this outrageous initiative on their ballots. And the religious right is spending hundreds of millions of dollars to push it through. There is still way too much discrimination in this country based on religious dogma. I FEEL YOUR PAIN.

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KEITH

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If you let go a lot you will have a lot of happiness.
If you let go completely you will be free. - Ajahn Chah

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I know. I was so saddened by the outcome of Prop 8. My stepson recently "came out" and I was so happy to see that California was allowing same-sex marriages last summer. My hope was that the movement would spred, not shrink.

I was watching Ellen and was surprised that she appeared so happy (as usual) on the show, as her marriage will be null and void now as well.



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My sister and her SO of over 30 years just recently got married in California, and she is beside herself and can't stop crying. I feel so bad! I can't believe it, it's absolutely crazy. All I can do is offer my hugs, I just don't even know what to say.

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11/5/08 3:50 P

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I can't believe it. It was such a good election untill...

California decided to deny its citizens their right to marriage. Now over 18,000 marriages will mean nothing. I am sitting here thinking of how it would feel if someone told me that my marriage wasn't real. I am furious and in tears and trying to keep it together here at work.

Last night was a wonderful night for the country, but there is a somber cloud looming over the state of California.

I am depressed and disappointed.

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