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11/5/12 10:43 P

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Hi JuJu,
You ask how I am able to stop myself from feeling guilty and just spiraling into worse slipping. I'm not totally sure, but I think it is some kind of "wisdom" that maybe I am getting with age. (I'm 57.) Another part of it is that I don't like the feeling of guilt, so when I see it as a possible emotion, I don't "go there" because I'm not into it.

Now, I would not say I am perfect at this! I do have slips that last longer than I want. But mostly, my version of a bad reaction is just to not be quite as positive and not quite as careful as I know I should. I have been in an overall slump for months, where I can't really seem to lose weight. But I had been gaining some, and at least I put a STOP to that!

For my Halloween candy, I did not touch it from the time I taped it shut to the day of Halloween. On that night, I handed out candy without eating it, but I decided to put some aside, and I did eat it and track it. But I have not eaten any since then.

With my new health situation (see blog for update) I really need to get serious about losing weight. I am not sure if my vision loss is related to weight side effects, but it could be. It is a wake-up call.

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11/4/12 8:06 A

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Hi Judi,
Thanks so much for your reply. This is very helpful. Tracking food the night before is helpful to me too, I'm finding. It takes away the anxiety of figuring out what I can eat as I go about the day.

When you say, "One aspect where I sometimes am able to do the "right" thing is the issue of spiraling down after that initial slip. I am often able to stop. There is some kind of mental thing we do, feeling guilty or some other "useless" response, that makes us keep eating and making it worse." How do you stop yourself?

Halloween candy is a major issue!! I just bought a bunch of bags on sale at Target. They are small and portion controlled. I like your idea of taping them into a cardboard box. That requires a concerted effort and makes you think about what you're doing.

You're absolutely right about the muffins. I try to adhere to 'minimizing sugar and processed foods', but eliminating sugar and candy just leads to more bingeing when i finally do get my hands on it. I love chocolate and making it a forbidden food has consistently backfired. I remember reading a long time ago in a Geneen Roth book, that, like you said, people binge because they're fearful of not being allowed the food. Having huge amounts of the forbidden food around makes it less anxiety-provoking. Have you ever heard this?

Thanks again for your response. Hearing from folks like you is more helpful than I realized it would be.

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JUDI_CUTIE's Photo JUDI_CUTIE Posts: 7,946
10/27/12 11:52 A

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I have this problem all the time, just "not caring" at the moment when I am making a choice to eat. Beck has a response, "you'll care later", but somehow that doesn't always get my attention.

I have been struggling a lot lately, keeping on gaining and losing the same two pounds.

One thing that almost always gets results for me is when I track my food the night before. (Then why don't I do it now!? I don't know...???)

One aspect where I sometimes am able to do the "right" thing is the issue of spiraling down after that initial slip. I am often able to stop. There is some kind of mental thing we do, feeling guilty or some other "useless" response, that makes us keep eating and making it worse.

I recently got into trouble with the halloween candy. For a few days in a row, I was taking six to ten little candy bars and eating them! It was not helping!!! So I finally put all the candy into a cardboard box and taped it shut! It is staying closed until Halloween.

One more idea, about the muffins. I wonder if you were thinking that you would not be allowed to have a muffin in the days to come. Maybe you were making them for other people. And then once you slipped, you decided to get all the muffins you could want. But maybe there is a way to "plan one muffin" for each of the next three days. Set yours aside so no one will take them! (I might be way off, but it came to mind.)
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Edited by: JUDI_CUTIE at: 10/27/2012 (11:52)
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10/27/12 8:01 A

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good morning,
Yesterday i did some unplanned eating. I was making muffins and I had some batter. And it just spiraled down from there. I think the problem is that I'm not consistent with the beck steps. I don't write down my eating plans and I don't have an accountability person.

Has anyone ever run into the problem of thinking about your ARC, and then just not caring about it? Because that's what happened yesterday. I thought of all the benefits of losing weight and then I thought 'ah who cares' and ate 10 muffins anyway. It feels difficult to control myself during times like that. Does anyone else have this problem, or has dealt with it successfully?

However, I remind myself that it isn't the end of the world that i overate. It isn't ideal, either. I read somewhere that different tactics produce different results. Something to keep in mind when working on changing behaviors.

Thanks guys.
J

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