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I am so excited! Since I'm not working, I'm really broke. I ordered the workbook once but the order got cancelled by Amazon. I just traded in a bunch of DVDs & CDs, and so had some credit ... and found a workbook that I could get with my credit! I can't wait for it to get here, & to get started!
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emoticon week 1 chat thread for Wed 5/30 posted ~ C U there :)



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Sounds good. I haven't done the ARC yet, but have from before. I'm going to redo it tomorrow. I will be doing editing/additions, also.



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Sounds good! I have my ARC for reasons why I want to lose weight already written but I think it might need some editing/additions.

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emoticon Hi everyone, sorry I evaporated, lost phone & internet over the holiday weekend! I was in withdrawals! but I have net now! Woot!

emoticon gr8, let's start Wed with weighins on Wed. Day 1 seems to be about motivation & pondering why we want to lose weight, starting our set of cards & lists!

emoticon Our first weighin is 2 weeks, & then we can post weight or just change in weight.


emoticon Has everyone chosen their mealplan? What will you be doing?

emoticon I'm using the Pink book & workbook. It's ok if you don't have both, either one or the other color works fine :)



emoticon I need to scooch but will be back later tonight & get the week 1 chat thread started (& post a link here for convenience :)

[if I disappear, don't fret, i'll be back... not sure they are done working with our phone lines they replaced because they left wires hanging from our box and have to come back, not sure they're done yet... ]

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Let's start on Wednesday. Let's use that day for our weigh in, also.

If you don't have the workbook, you can use a paper notebook.

Kate, anyone can join us that wants to do the program. We're glad to have you. I feel the more people we have, the more we'll get out of it.

Today, I'm going to read Chapters 1-4 over and the first couple pages of Chapter 5. Then I'll be ready for tomorrow.

Don't forget to weigh in first thing in the morning. We haven't talked about posting weight, I think using Spark People is good enough, but how do the rest of you feel? We need to do what works for us.





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I would like to be part of this also. I have the book but not the workbook -- I ordered it but the order got canceled, which of course was enough to throw me right out of whole idea. I have sticky notes, and a scale (although I'm not sure it's working correctly -- this morning it told me I've lost 17# and I just don't think that could possibly be right!).

I'll try to get the workbook again when I can afford it -- things are pretty tight at the moment!

Kate, in Citrus Heights California

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THERE IS NO TEMPTATION TAKEN YOU BUT SUCH AS IS COMMON TO MAN; BUT GOD IS FAITHFUL, WHO WILL NOT SUFFER YOU TO BE TEMPTED ABOVE THAT YOU ARE ABLE BUT WILL WITH TEMPTATION ALSO MAKE A WAY OF ESCAPE THAT YOU MAY BE ABLE TO BEAR IT.

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Wednesday works for me. I have the pink cover Beck book.

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so, are you -all using the pink "Beck Diet Solution" book or the newer green one? (I have both, just curious)

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Sounds like we're all ready. How about starting Wed?

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Just from reading the book, my eating has become better. I misread the page that calls for supplies and decided the workbook takes the place of the notebook. I think I'll make banana bread for dh. I know, that's a landmine, but I don't eat it. He likes the healthy things I bake and it works for him instead of something much sweeter. I use artificial sweetener and whole wheat pastry flour. The only thing I use sugar for is the hummingbird feeders.

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I didn't get my workbook yet but have done weeks 1 & 2 from the book. I think I'll be fine until the workbook arrives.

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I have all the items listed. I don't have a very good notebook, but I'll make due. My friend didn't contact me about starting with us. I think she's probably gone this weekend. She usually leaves to visit her mom on holidays.

Everyone of the lifestyle characteristics pretain to me. I've done them all over the long haul. That's why I'm in the shape I'm in.

The survey is very interesting, as my answers are completely different than what I filled in last time. This is the 4th time I will be doing the program. Hope it sticks this time. I need to learn those skills and not drop them at the end of the program.

I'm going to move on to the workbook. I like the statement: 'It takes time to let new ideas sink in and to bedcome proficient at changing your ideas and behavior.'

We can do this ladies.

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emoticon items to gather before we start :)

sticky notes for marking pages

3x5 index cards or cardstock paper for making cards to read

food scale, measuring cups & spoons

bathroom scale

Beck workbook or some sort of notebook


emoticon the 1st 2 weeks focus on following our chosen meal plan and working on some eating & lifestyle questions and skills to practice, with our 1st weighin at the end of week 2.

Let's see when Berta's friend would be ready to start and anyone else who wants to join... I'm good anytime.


emoticon i'm working on chapters 2 and 3 of the workbook... I have a preferred meal plan that is based on food exchanges, very flexible works best for me, and found the survey interesting... my answers had changed since the last time I went through it.

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Berta, sure, invite your friend, the more the merrier! and please try again(I had tried on a new name and changed it back to dragonzlayer for now... it's not that I change my name all the time, i am kind of looking for a name that suits me now.)

Thanks RunGirl, sounds interesting and helpful. I still have trouble resisting sweets, something I'm working on. Do you have the workbook already?

I think I also like the idea of a weekly discussion thread to keep us together :)



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There is a No S team on this site. It's pretty simple: no snacks, seconds, or sweets except (sometimes) on days that start with "S" or special holidays (birthdays, etc). There is a small book written about it but just about all of the book is on a website, www.nosdiet.com. There is a link there to a discussion page that has posts by people who have or are doing the "diet". There are also podcasts recorded by the author that are really good (www.everydaysystems.com). I like it because it's helped me break my snacking habit at work. I'm still working on my weekends and not letting my eating get totally out of control. Sweets are my problem. It's not a "diet" but encourages establishing better habits. Anything that fits on one plate is legit!

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I've never heard of No S, sorry. Thought I'd studied up on all the diets out there, guess not.

Chapter 3 is interesting to me. I can identify people I've known over the years that fit them all.

Any day you decide to start is fine with me. After the weekend would probably be best for everyone. I have a friend I'd like to invite. She went through the program with me on the private Beck team.

Dragonzlayer, I couldn't get onto your page or friend you, the site says 'unable to find'.

Got some groceries today and brought home more plants. Our garden is an acre, don't need more.

Try to get more read tomorrow.

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ok, I morphed to Beckanator for the study, lol ;)

I'm not familiar with the NoS diet? I am familar with sweet food triggers, (grins :) and i can't go near my trigger foods or have them in my home, although i am working on similar foods in moderation.



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I think creating a new thread is a good idea. Will be easier to find one another.

Does anyone do No S? That's where I first read about Beck and it's what I'll use as my primary "diet". I have struggled with weekends (S days) since I started No S in April. I contemplated not giving myself an S day, or at least not any sweets, cause I lose all control! Now having read about cravings in Beck's book I'm even more convinced that I have to cut them out completely, at least for now. I haven't lost any weight, but I've had quite a few failed days this month too.

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Gr8 :)

Whichever day we choose for day 1 will become the 1st day of each week, weighin day when we start weighins at the beginning of week 3 and when we check in with our *diet buddy/coach*

There are the daily threads here in the main forum with lots of team member comments as we go through the 6 weeks, but was wondering if we might like to also have a weekly conversation thread where we could all check in together?

thoughts?

i think my concern is if we just do the daily threads, we would tend to drop off... if we have a place to all come together, hopefully we can all stick thru the whole study :)

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I just ordered the workbook this morning so I'd love to the 6 weeks with all of you. Hopefully I'll have my book by June 1. What are you doing on Wednesday's or Saturday's?

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emoticon Berta, chapter 3 of the book also covers the differences in thinking between a *thin* person and others... 1 thing that rang a bell was characteristic 7, Beck did an experiment and asked people in normal weight range if they would change their eating habits if all foods contained exactly the same number of cals and were equally nutritious... Many of them, especially men over 40 and most women, all ages, said yes, they would eat differently. Either certain foods more frequently or larger amounts... Her conclusion... even if people aren't aware of it, they do manage their eating...

I find that helpful... it just is what it is... how much makes a difference, and I need to leave off eating too much...

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Gracie/Anyone else, would you like to join us and do you have a preference?

Also, Berta/Gracie & anyone wanting to join us... When do you want to start? 1st week of June? I'm looking forward to starting the 6 weeks and ready anytime. although I prefer Wednesdays, I'm also good with Saturdays. this coming Wed is impossible, I would have to be a day late on Thurs if we do Wed's. Due to family/life stuff, the Beck study is the only sparking I will be doing most of the summer...


emoticon we don't have deer, but we have raccy raccoons, ducks, slugs, bugs, gophers, squirrels & such, & a pack of coyotes which moved in over the bank last year down in the wetland/spring area... we had to close the doggie doors permanently... it was so much easier when our dogs could come & go in & out of the mud room as they pleased... we looked up our local resources, and they referred us to an audubon webpage on living with urban wildlife... (sighs)

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I didn't answer your question about weigh in days. Any day works for me. I don't think I've weighed for 5 weeks and haven't changed my weight for much longer than that. I've gained 20# in the last year. So, whatever you decide on that works for me.

I read a lot in the books. They have good material. Hope I can brainwash myself with it. I think if I read it enough it will stick. I was able to do it before and it worked for me. Just have to stay with it and not put it down again.

There are people that are naturally thin. I've known several people. Some have no problem with weight control at all and don't even know the caloric value of food. Others who seem naturally slim, have taught themselves to stay away from high calorie foods.

I would love to be one that's naturally thin, too bad I'm not. I have always had a job that was physical, and now I'm retired and don't burn much up. Gardening is physical, but I'm older and don't burn calories like I used to. I need to find the key to weight loss for me. I know Beck works, just have to do the work.

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berta sorry about the dear those buggars are presistant about gardens. When my hubbie and I were first married we had problem with raccons in our bargage. Before knowing why our garbage was always turn over... I decided to stay up and see who or what was turning it over. Those buggars were after baby food. I caught them licking their fingers after digging in the jars of food. So the owners built a gate to put the garbage in. We rinsed the jars out. so animals are busy looking for food.

me Food wise I tend to more or less eat what I know. LOL. I have tired coucous (wheat) but no bulgar and or what I call wierd grains.

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yep, i'm guessin' everybody has sumptin sumptin that's an issue for them... ;)

i'm not sure i will ever be on the *normal* end of things, i will work on better and be happy/celebrate any progress, but for now, just have to deal with today... looking too far ahead is crazymaking for me :)





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emoticon Very well said! I know people that are on the left side and I definitely am not one of them. I sometimes get annoyed with those people because I just don't think it's not fair, but I guess we all have our achilles heel and food is mine!

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emoticon today I'm reading Chapter 3 of the book, and it's really a bit overwhelming...

if you look at a line and the left is normal eaters who don't struggle, just naturally adjust their food and the right side is people who love to eat & wish life was an eatfest party or hobby with no consequence to our body... well, I am far right... and I wonder if far left is even possible for me...

(sighs)

but i don't have to solve or fix everything today... do i?

this study is about helping us with our thinking, whatever our struggle or however many issues we may face with this... and it really doesn't matter what other people are doing...

this is all about me, where I am right now and which direction I want to head... and I am saying, here and now, I want to be healthier, eat in ways that nourish me both emotionally and phsyically, stop gaining weight, lose weight so I can be healthier, fitter and better able to live life with family & friends!

If this book study helps at all, then it will be a win! Woot!!!

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emoticon good job with your thinking! funny how things in the house can continue to call our name... that's something i struggle with, and for now, have asked dh to keep his goodies out of my path (& move them if i find them! grins ;)



emoticon i like having both book & workbook, they cover the same material but with different illustrations... and the chapter #s are a little different at the beginning but sync up with day 1 when the program starts.



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Last night I strengthened my resistance muscle and gave myself some praise for not diving in to the batch of Snickerdoodle cookies by bf baked. I chastised him for making them, but I did like Beck suggests and stuck them up in a high cupboard so I wouldn't have to look at them. Of course in the back of my head they were calling my name. But I knew 1 cookie would not do, and 5 would make me feel sick. So I stayed in the upstairs of the house far from the kitchen.

Too bad today at work I gave in to my "giving in" muscle. Sweets, sweets, and more sweets. I'm crashing at the moment from the sugar high. But I'm promising myself that I'm not going to go home and continue with the WTH thinking. I had my sweets, they were good, and that's enough for today.

I'm thinking about getting the workbook too. Still reading the book and taking notes.

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emoticon i like bok choy... our market gets the cutest little baby bok choy... i use it cut/torn into stir fries & mixed veggie medleys' like i would cabbage or spinach... I also found a ruffly kind of chinese cabbage i like too... intermix them... i think i like stirfried veggies with stuff more than i tend to eat salads, and dh doesn't eat either much so i tend to go with what i like. I also tried belgian endive, but it was similar & way more expensive so i go with what is in season or on sale. This week it was spinach! and I have still have 1/2 a head of cabbage from when it was on sale.

emoticon Good to see you Gracie, we're working through all the prep stuff & getting ready to get started with day 1 in a bit... it's been awhile since I did this study :)

emoticon Berta, sure, I could use a diet coach, or even if we have a couple of us on the same day would be good.

do you have a preferred weighin day? I can do anyday...


emoticon Book Chapter 2 Decisions Reduce Tension & mini woohoos!

was just reading through chapter 2 of the book (which covers eating triggers discussed in chapter 1 of the workbook) and has a couple interesting things I had forgotten that really work well for me...

emoticon emoticon emoticon ever notice when you are fighting with yourself whether or not to eat something... we kind of go through a bit of emotional turmoil? (waves hand)

ever notice when you decide to eat that extra food and reach for it, the tension disappears & you are focused on the yumminess??? (nods, waves hand...)

well, she mentions that when you really decide NOT to eat the food... that can release the tension too... especially if we switch our focus to something else... like go do something...

but you can double up on eliminating that tension and make it even a better positive experience if you give yourself a little *woohoo, i didn't eat that food, ain't that gr8???* woot!!!* and then go do something else... and give yourself a little *woohoo, i'm going to go do something else......*

and this strengthens your resistance muscle and weakens your giving in muscle...

it's a skill she talks more about later in the book, and I think it became 1 of my all time favs!!! I still find myself doing this, especially when i'm on a roll :)

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Bok choy is a member of the cabbage family. It's in a lot of Chinese dishes, stirfries and soups. I love it and planted it in the garden this year. My gf plants Asian vegetables and had extra for the Japanese people that moved here after the tsunami last year. She had a great cabbage that I'd never seen before. It was tall and darker than most cabbage. I'll have to ask what it was.

We had a visiter in the garden last night. My romane is gone and deer tracks left in is't stead.

There aren't many vegs I haven't tried.

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Jules i have always wanted to try new veggies but I'd have to eat them alone. Coming this week I will invest in trying some new fruits and veggies. Bok choy i tried a couple months ago it tastes like cabbage to me.

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No, my books haven't come yet. I think they were suppose to be mailed in 7-14 days, and I can't remember when I decided to order them. Amazon doesn't send emails like they used to.

I'm still working on Chapter 1 in the workbook. I might have to make the cards again. I don't know where I put them. I underlined them all in the book, so I could find them easily. I don't know anything about the breadbasket card, except what you've said. We don't go to a sit down rest. very often. We went to Applebees last week, but they don't do bread baskets. I ordered the Weight Watcher steak and it was good.

I'll be planting more corn in about 2 weeks. I need to plant more beets and think I'll do that today. We had rain this morning, but it looks like it's going to clear off. I can see blue skis to the west. If you live on the WA coast, it's going to get cold tomorrow. I heard the 50s for you. I hope it stays warm tonight. Anything lower than 50 at night, and the tomatoes abort. We had a deer in the garden last night. It's ver unusual for us here. There was a 5 point buck in my parents' pasture when I was 2, and I remember that. One of the neighbors ran a cougar out of his driveway a couple weeks ago. That's unusual, too. Of course they can be any where, but we haven't seen therm here before.

I can see where the bread basket would be a problem. About the only kind of bread I buy is whole wheat. While I was growing up, we'd have everything but wheat bread. My mom was allergic to wheat. She baked all kinds of bread and I like them all. She made the best rye bread and pumpernickle. Mmm.

I'm thinking of getting the Mayo Clinic book you're taking about. Do you use it a lot? I just copied a 1200 cal exchange diet from a website. I also have a 1000 calorie exchange. One of my dietitian friends told me she wishes they'd never moved away from the exchange diet. People can eat popcorn for supper when they're counting carbs and they think it's ok. That's part of the reason I like the Dr. Phil diet. It's exchanges for all meals.

Do you have a diet coach. Could we be coaches for each other? I can't think of any one I want to ask.

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emoticon corn is rolling into the store from the South, but it never seems as good as our local corn in August! I can't wait! Althought we don't have an extra freezer... i'm not sure i could get the knack/right humidity for drying to popcorn and it's so cheap to buy...

emoticon did you get the book yet? the bread baskets is illustrated in chapter 2 of the book, so 1 of my issues... nothing like warm fresh sourdough bread baskets they bring to the table @ restaurants... i used to dive in, slather with real butter, yum! drools @ the thought! lol ;)

so a good compromise for me is to enjoy a piece with the entree unless there are other foods i choose to eat instead :)

emoticon so i made up the bread card for me yesterday because it definitely was one that works for me... I still have the original cards attached in my workbook...

I was looking ahead at chapter 2 of the workbook on food plan, and i'm good with the mealplan I'm using...

I was surprised when the brand new MayClinic diabetes diet book and tracking journal used a diabetic food exchange plan instead of counting carbs... Just confounds me when experts disagree and things are change... just end up following what my docs have me doing

I'm still trying to manage with diet and exercise at this point so not counting carbs yet... and am using the food exchanges... My actual meals look like the myplate.gov arrangement, and I do try to choose whole grains and non-starchy veggies & use the glycemic index when i consider my selections... my daily goal is each meal to try to stay in the ranges of the food exchanges for meals and for snacks i try to anchor a carb with a lean protein most of the time. The SparkPeople tracker was helpful too for balancing when I used it a bit...

And I move between weight loss meal plans and maintenance meal plans as needed, if I"m struggling with hunger or fighting the urge to eat sweets & goodies... That has helped too.

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We're in eastern Washington state. It's raining today.

I haven't dehydrated corn either, but want to do that. You don't have to do anything with popcorn, except let it dry by itself and remover the kernels from the cob, store it in a jar or plastic bag. We used to raise popcorn when I was a kid. It's a trick to get just the right level of hydration. Too dry it won't pop, too wet, it gets moldy.

I think most of the fruits and vegs can be dehydrated. My neighbor does a great job and it looks like what you buy in the store. She has the knack.

I'd like to do green beans and other things. I know they have green beans in the packages that people eat instead of chips. My daughter buys it in bulk.

I've frozen corn, you blanch it, cool it and cut it off the cob. It tastes so much better than canned. Yum. I don't have a freezer now.

What is ' breadbaskets'? I have the cards printed, just have to look them up. HOpe they aren't with the audio tape. The books I ordered haven't arrived yet, but should any day. I haven't seen the Mayo Clinic's diabetes book. I just took it offline on a website. Diabetics count carbs now, they don't use the exchange method. I have a Weight Watchers 365 Day Menu Cookbook. It was published in 1983. I'm going to kind of use that, too. WW has odd recipes, but it has the exchanges in the back of the book for the recipes. I don't know anything about the plan, but the front of the book says it's 1200 calories for women and the appendix gives exchanges for the recipes. I don't know if I want to go to that much trouble, but it's there if I want to. For me, the simpler, the better, works best. That's why I like the diabetic exchange diet, just plug in the food you want and go for it. I'm 66, so don't know if I can lose on 1200 calories. I usually eat the very lean meats and fresh fruit and vegetables. I bought this book at a thrift store. There are a lot of salad dressings with low calories.

I'm going to read Chapter 2 in the workbook.

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We're on the West Coast... love it!

i haven't tried dehydrating corn... i don't know what the steps would be to make popcorn (which i'd love to do, it is a fav snack) or to grind for polenta or cornmeal/flour... interesting thought. If I had freezer space, i'd freeze corn on the cob.

i have often thought i'd like to get a motorhome or lg 5th wheel so we could be mobil & toodle when we want... that would be my dream retirement


emoticon i follow the diabetic food exchange plan too, using the plate format (think myplate.gov) from the Mayo Clinic diabetes book & tracking journal

emoticon i was surprised when i was ready & started reading chapter 2 in the Beck book... more of the topics in the workbook chapter 1 = chapters 1 - 3 in the book. So i'm reading those... she covers same material with different illustrations so worth the additional pondering...

i made my helpful thoughts card on breadbaskets today!!! hot fresh smelly bread definitely a trigger for me! I can do better, I don't have to eat it all... enough but too much will be just fine. I like to eat a piece with the entree unless i choose to skip it then b/c there's other stuff I'd rather eat :)

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Where do you live? Corn is ripe in August here, too. Half mine was ripe in September when we went to Idaho. Poor timinig, and cold weather. So I lost 3 rows, too mature when we got back. This year, I think I'm going to dry corn, also. I don't know how cooking will work out with dehydrated corn. We don't have a place to store frozen corn, but I'm going to put it up for my brother and daughter. We live in a motor home and don't have freezer space.

I worked outside all day today. I did take a 1 hour break in the afternoon. I planted 3 rows of corn, and hoed most of the garden and a strip along the driveway, beside the flower beds. It takes me 8 hours to water the garden. Dh usually does that, but he's been coughing all night, so he's worn out and doesn't feel like doing anything. He has a dr appointment tomorrow for a biopsy on a growth on his arm. The garden is a full time job. I still have things to plant. I dehydrate stevia, oregano, thyme, mint and peas. I only planted snap peas this year.

We didn't see the eclipse, but it got dark enough for the yard light to come on. It was muggy today, but overcast, around 83 all day. If it's much hotter than that, I don't work outside.

My eating was good today. I'm following a 1200 calorie diabetic diet. It's pretty high carbohydrate for me, but I'm going to try it. I like South Beach, but need a break from it for a while. I'm just going to see how it goes. I still have a snack left to eat for today.



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me2! just finished workbook Chapter 1, and it is full of ideas, and it's just the intro... about what we will be pondering! good thing we'll have more chances to practice these changes.. there really is so much how food is involved in our life... had my little niece & nephew yesterday from breakfast through dinner and it was interesting observing their requests/choices for each meal/snack... i so get where they were coming from! we could have made the whole day an eatfest...

it gets overwhelming if i ponder these things too hard or think about changing everything all at once... i think why i like the idea of little ideas, 1 day at a time...

emoticon love fresh corn when ours comes in about Autust around here... can't wait!

sounds like your garden is a full time job over the summer! i do think the dehydrated tomatos would be easy... just have to do it... kind of like making croutons/stuffing cubes from ends of bread... is there ever enough time???

and sounds like your family has their hands full with medical issues... it's that kind of thing that yanks my emotions hardest (& find myself hunting ice cream! good thing we can't grow our own of that!!! lol ;)

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I read chapter 1. I know most of my eating is environmental. I'm going to read it again tonight and again tomorrow. If I read it several times, maybe it will stick in my head.

Today I planted pole beans. Hope they are up soon. I need to plant corn tomorrow. I just can't seem to get with the program. I have tendonitis in both Achilles and my wrist. Some days are better than others, today was not so bad.

I'm going to try dehydrated tomatoes, when they're ripe. I think it would be easier for me than canning for myself. My brother is busy with his grandson and wife right now. The grandson had knee surgery, can't drive and his wife is having eye surgery on Thursday, so he will have to drive her to the hospital on Thursday and dr office on Friday, all are 50 miles away. His's 75 with bad arthritis, so he has a full plate. I'll get the tomato gravy recipe from him when his life gets back to normal, if there is such a thing for him.

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We love butternut squash. I don't know how many plants I have, but we never have enough. Last year the butternut fries were a hit with everyone. My dd's co-worker got a recipe for them at a Weight Watcher meeting. She couldn't make enough for her family. We tried them, without a recipe, and liked them. I hadn't heard of the dried tomatoes. I want to try that, it sounds easier than canning. The tomato gravy recipe I'll have to get from my brother. We aren't Italian, but he has an Italian friend that taught him. It's essentially spaghetti sauce, only they use it for everything. Butternut vines, so it takes a lot of room. Same with buttercup. I had it come up volunteer and transplanted them. I have a dehydrator and used it for herbs last summer. I love stevia and dehydrated all I could grow last year. It's gone, so I want to do that again. I'm not going to make extract. I didn't care for it much. I just dehydrated the leaves and put them into my Ninja to grind them up. I used a heaping teaspoon in a kettle of rhubarb with sf strawberry jello and it was enough sweetener. I used a cup of Splenda before. It's darned sweet.

I have different kinds of mint that is refreshing in ice water. I also like the different herbs. I have citrus mint, tastes like orange to me, chocolate, apple, spearmint, peppermint. When I get tired of one, I switch to another. I even like Greek oregano in water. I try it all. How do you eat kohlrabi? I like it raw. My friend boils the leaves and uses them in stirfry. There is a basil that's very peppery, that tastes good with everything I've tried it with.

My son-in-law bought me garden stakes with the herbs lettered on them. I don't know how he knew I had all the things, but he did. Lavender is another herb that tastes good in tea or water and rosemary, too. I guess I like them all. I have a combo with thyme, pepper, lemon pepper that tastes wonderful on chicken. I kind of copied the flavors of the old KFC baked chicken. 1/2 t each: salt, pepper, lemon pepper 1/4t each thyme and paprika. That's about enough for a whole chicken. I make a big batch and keep it in a spice jar. Just sprinkle it on whatever you want to use it on. Mostly chicken and pork and some vegetables, it what I use it for.

All I did outside today was water. Which takes me an hour to do by sprinkling can. We have a lot of plants that the sprinklers don't hit. Maybe, someday, we'll have a drip system.

We have 4 daughters. My daughter sent me a pair of garden shoes. I like comfort and these are the best.

I really do promise to start on the workbook.

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emoticon WoW!!!! (they really need a WOW emoticon!!! lol ;)

what a garden! that reminds me, i want to do butternut squash & i love kohlrabi!

last year we tried purple beans... they turned green in the cooking process... look forward to hearing what you think of the red beans, and would love a tomato gravy recipe!

as to tomatos, last year i was watching a cooking show... maybe Jacques Pepin... and they suggested thinly slicing tomatos and drying them in a very low oven (like making bread croutons) or you could use a dehydrator... and then taking the dried slices and pulverizing in a blender, then sift out seeds and rinds, leaving a dried tomato powder that can be kept in airtight jars... to use over winter... add tablespoons to cooked dishes, sprinkle over salads for a burst of nutrition, color & flavor... i hope to do that when we get a chance to do tomatos again :)

emoticon no hurry, i am still working on workbook chapter 1... turned the page & there's even more exciting stuff, but i do better taking 1 concept at a time... today's concept is triggers and the eating process... had em in 2009 when i did it b4, and yep, still have em today... I'm glad to realize my thinking has grown with them, doing better with some, still struggling with a couple.... I think strong negative emotions & external stress events beyond my control are 2 of my biggest triggers still... and when I get going on eating sweets & that voracious appetite thingy happens ;)

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We have raspberries, strawberries, blueberries, rhubarb, squash, winter and summer, corn, cabbage, potatoes, grape cuttings, asparagus, kohl rabi, beets, watermelon, cantalope, tomatoes, peppers, (a lot of tomatoes and peppers) cucumbers, stevia, mint- 5 kinds, basil, dill, oregano, sage, thyme, radishes. Haven't planted beans yet, but plan on doing that tonight or tomorrow morning. We have many varieties of squash and cucumbers. Everyone likes different ones. We still have frost threat, and we're getting to the point, it's too much to cover up. Only a few more days, and we'll be home free from frost (we hope). We have lots of flowers,a nd I'd like more, but it's not practical. I'm going to plant regular pole beans, but also the 12-18 inch Asian beans that 'taste like asparagus'. We'll see. I bought a package of the red beans also. Never grown them before. I think this is TMI, but that's what happens when I get started. My goal is to can 50 quarts of tomatoes for my brother and sil. They are elderly and my sil can make a meal with tomatoes, onion, hamburger and rice that is out of this world. They make tomato gravy and lots of other recipes, also. It's just a good staple for them to have. They are both diabetic, so we furnish their vegs all summer. It helps their budget and blood sugar. We take surplus to the senior center and food bank, after friends and family.

I promise I'm going to read Chaper 1 of The Beck Solution. I PROMISE. A book club I belong to is having a sale today. I'm working the afternoon, then dinner and planting. One of my hanging baskets fell off it's hook, broke the pot, so I planted it in a half wine barrel. I think it's going to be ok. I planted another half wine barrel with shade plants. I bought a basket that Home Depot had for Memorial Day for $10, used a hydrangea and coral bells I already had and it filled it up. I'm hoping it will look nice. The basket had sultana and coleos, so I think they are pretty.

Got to get moving here. Haven't taken my shower yet.

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emoticon workbook chapter 1... 2 things that struck me...

Ever dove off a diet? What were you thinking when you decided to stop? We can get really creative with our reasoning, waves hand & giggles...

did it go something like this... It's okay to eat this because... I'm stressed, I'm hungry, I just don't care, I really want it, everyone else is having it, it looks good, I can't resist it, it won't matter, I'll start my diet again tomorrow, it's free, no one is watching, I'm celebrating???

Yeah, me 2... I think I've used all those, and all it got me was ever fatter...



emoticon ever eat a hockey puck??? (or coasters??? ;)

LOL, no, me neither... but i liked her point that even though some eating can seem automatic... we might not be real aware of all the steps in our thought process when we polish off our food, we rarely pick up & eat non-food items!

emoticon LOL how true is that??? :::giggle::: i NEVER ate a hockey puck!!

Her point... Breathing & heart beats are automatic. Eating is not. Whether we are paying close attention or not, we always make a decision to eat or not to eat, to keep eating or to stop eating...

I guess doing this study for me will be about taking more ownership with my decision process, getting real & honest with the decisions I make...

(more tomorrow on triggers & eating process :)

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ooh yum! we just grilled zukes last night... even the dogs liked them! lol ;) What else are you planting? Hope to have a garden next year (can't this year) and would like to do zukes, tomatos, bell peppers & carrots. would like to try onions, strawberries & blueberries...

it's nice to be on a roll, still hard sometimes but i really wasn't doing well b4 last summer... last summer did a daily reading/study similar to this one. it really helped me refocus and get going again... so want to use that same strategy to stay focused this summer... Summer is when I tend to play & vacation, and that's all still good, i just needed to stop the food vacations! LOL ;)

i'm reading the workbook Chapter 1 today & tomorrow, will try to comment tomorrow, definitely pondering a couple things from the chapter that ring my bell.

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You're doing better than I am. In the last year, I've gained 20 pounds and I was 10# overweight to begin with. I need to buckle down and get to work.

Good news. My 8 ball zucchini has 2 fruits on it about he size of a nickel. It won't be long now and it will be ready to pick. Just planted regular zucchini from seeds. I'm going to buy some more plants. I love it any way it's cooked. My brother and sil are both diabetics. I share whatever vegs we have extra with them and several other people that need help with their food. There are several things I haven't planted yet, but will soon.

I should have time to go over the workbook tonight.

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Hi Berta, there's several chapters before the daily day 1 starts... so it will take me awhile to work through both the book and workbook and process everything... Maybe we can start the real day 1 together after you get the book & have a chance to catch up to that point...

I worked on chapter 1 of the book more today and will work on the workbook chapter 1 starting tomorrow I think...

I was pondering the 20 cals thing... and realized I know 2 normal eaters who pretty easily maintained their weight. Everyone else really had to work at it, and for decades, what we knew was the diets/diet books available... Becks approach really is different, and helped me before. I wasn't ready for a lot of it, but it's been awhile and i'm ready to ponder it all again...

with the 20 cals thing... i realized 1 large apple is about 100 cals... a 100 extra cals a day is like an extra 10 lbs a year...

100 cals x 365 days = 36,500 cals
10 lbs x 3,500 cals = 35,000 cals...

10 lbs a year is faster than I gained it, but I did it by either very low calorie dieting or way overeating and always regained everything plus a little after each diet...

so for me, i think my main goal approach is always stable eating... and i do struggle with bingeing/emotional eating, and sometimes rebel at dieting, so I do better if I shoot to maintain my weight and eat less when I am feeling stable and able...

this has actually been working well for me, I've lost about 30 lbs since last June... about 1/2 lb a week... when I try to go faster I start feeling deprived, etc... so I'm good with slow...

it just amazes me though, that if we ate and exercised the same every day... an extra bite of 20 cals would put 2 lbs on... 2 extra bites 4 lbs... an extra apple a day puts on 10 lbs... So, it really does matter... even if my stinking thinking tries to tell me... oh, don't worry, eat this today, you can work on it later, LOL ;)

emoticon about your sister, sounds a lot like my mom, and I learned from her...

I do not want to spend all day every day thinking about food and getting skinny! I want to find balance in my life so I can focus on life :)

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I looked through everything and can't find the cd. I must have loaned it to someone. I'll just have to wait for the book to arrive. I can follow the workbook. Might start tomorrow if it works for me. Only thing we haven't been to the grocer for a couple weeks. It'll work though.

I don't know if there's anything extra on the cd, as I only have the workbook. It's been a long time since I listened to the cd and I never did the workbook and cd at the same time. I think it's just an audio of the book. I read through Chapter 1 in the workbook and see what I think. I like Dr. Beck's attitude and way of teaching.

The quote from Chapter 1 summary is very true. When I was around my sister, I noticed that she talked about food all the time. She was either wondering what she was going to have for the next meal or talking about what she was going to cook another time. She seemed obsessive to me and joined Overeaters Anonymous. Her body image was way off, also. She was underweight and thought herself too heavy. I've always had a weight problem, and don't think cutting back a few calories a day would do it for me. I have to journal and pay attention to what goes in and out or it doesn't work for me. It might work for someone with a minor weight problem, but not me.

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gr8 :)

I don't have the CD, but I bet it would include extra stuff.

I like the book, both the book and workbook cover the same materials but have other ways of explaining the materials, so I like having both. I wonder how the cd would compare :)

I tend to be slow going through... I actually am doing more on chapter 1 today from the book and i'll read the workbook tomorrow. Did you have any thoughts on the chapter 1 workbook?...


emoticon there are 2 more things chapter 1 in the book that strike my attention:


emoticon quote from the Chapter 1 summary that rings a bell:

"The way you think about food, eating, and dieting affects your behavior and how you feel emotionally"

nods, i'm hoping to get some help with the *i wanna dive into the buffet* syndrome, lol ;)

emoticon why weight matters -- for everyone.

we try to lose very quickly, but for many of us, we only gain 3 - 5 lbs more or less each year, and it just kind of adds up as we get older... this kind of shocked me...

"it takes only 20 or so extra calories a day to gain 2 lbs a year."

5 years = 10 lbs... just eating what? an extra bite of our dessert every day? from cleaning up the crumbs in the serving dish??? I mean really? who knew???

emoticon so if I just cut out 20 cals a day, would i lose 2 lbs a year? could it be that simple? just easing off the overeating (the biggie!) and then eating just a few bites less a day? hmmm.... will ponder this some more...

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I ordered the main book today, I have the workbook. I'm looking for the cd. It's here some place.

I editted the wrong post;)

Anyway, the book will be mailed in the next 14 days.

I think the cd is the audio of the book, but I'm not sure. I do have the workbook out and ready.

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gr8, i'd love to have company! will be working through the book over the summer :)

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Thanks for the input on the plan. I need to get my workbook out and start over. I need reprogramming, for sure. Anyway, the book will be mailed to me in the next 14 days or so.

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emoticon just starting back through the book and workbook, and found myself nodding all the way through... oh how I have thought those things!

I particularly like the idea of

emoticon No More Cheating.
It was unplanned eating or overeating, and a mistake that we can work on and keep going (instead of beating ourselves up as a failure and quitting for a long time.)

emoticon i like that the book will help us solve some of the practical problems we face when we're trying to lose weight and some of the stinkin thinking we fall into and thoughts that sabotage ourselves.

Weight gain and loss is about more than just how we eat... We need to find ways to deal with the stuff and thinking that hurts us so we can help ourselves and finally deal with our extra weight, lose it and keep it off!

yeah, I want that. Am excited to get started :)

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