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4/26/10 3:21 P

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Glad you like the smoothie idea. Not only tasty but has some good nutrition too. There really are answers for each situation that arises. You did good to come and ask for help. Congratulations.

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4/26/10 1:48 P

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Smoothies are a wonderful idea, thanks! And I usually have the stuff on hand already to make them. I guess I got stuck into the thinking of eating certain things at certain times, but an afternoon smoothie sounds wonderful (especially as hot as it is in Florida!)

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4/26/10 3:19 A

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This has been an interesting thread.
PMGOHIO I really like your idea about the wheat thins. I have a weak spot for potato chips, if I pre-portion the bag out completely when I first get it, I will be much less likely to go wild with them.

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4/23/10 1:04 P

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I think smoothies are a great idea! Since I never have the problem of being under my calories, I usually cannot afford to drink a smoothie, but I sure do think they are marvelous!!!

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4/23/10 12:50 P

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One way I get extra calories in a day with insufficient calories is to drink them. I find that I can drink without feeling overfull when eating would make me uncomfortably full.

I am not suggesting soft drinks as they are zero nutrition; I am suggesting smoothies. There are a million variations starting with non-fat milk or fruit juice. Add fruit--I like frozen so it makes the smoothie thick and if nutrition is an issue, add some high quality protein powder. Also take a high quality multi-vitamin and mineral supplement.

I have the ingredients for this in my refrigerator and freezer all the time and I just pull out the blender and make a smoothie at any time. It is easy to drink this while you are busy on the phone or computer too.

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4/23/10 9:51 A

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Thanks for the advice. I've really been working on this and I'm really going to try hard today. Yesterday was a rough and busy day. I slept in til 11, which I usually don't do. Then my phone rang and I spent most of the morning on the phone and couldn't eat breakfast until 1. (I'm giving myself some credit here that I actually ate what I had planned for breakfast instead of eating lunch). I spent the rest of my afternoon on the internet looking for apartments (I'm moving!) and had "lunch" at 5. Which isn't SO bad because I usually don't eat dinner til 7 or 8 anyway. But of course things happened and I ended up having a bagel for diner. Sigh.

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4/22/10 10:30 P

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It's been a good discussion!

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4/22/10 4:49 P

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No problem; I'm really not offended. I think you have an excellent point about the hunger issue. I found in the first several weeks on the program that I really wasn't all that hungry. I've had such poor eating habits for so long that I truly have forgotten what it is like to be hungry, satisfied or over-full. I think it takes 4-6 weeks to kind of "re-educate" your body.

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4/22/10 4:36 P

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I was off tutoring and I just got back here. I zapped out my note really fast, and I was not focusing so much on what you said. I was presenting a different idea. I did not mean to sound like I "disagreed" with you. I just had something different to say. I had a feeling I didn't do too well in how I introduced it ... because my doorbell was about to ring with a student. So I am sorry about that! And I think your idea has a lot of merit. I like eating foods that feel like a "treat" and I also like using the end of the day as a time to see what categories I have left to eat. So I do agree with you.

I just don't like the idea of a person skipping lunch because they are not "hungry". I worry that some people are trying to not eat unless they are hungry, but that only works if you get hungry on a regular basis. All of those experts who say, only eat when you are hungry, will usually also say, don't go six hours without eating.

Thanks for clarifying, and I meant no disrespect!
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4/22/10 3:25 P

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I think you might have mis-interpreted what I was suggesting. First, you have to have a healthy, balanced diet and I think SparkPeople really helps you to structure that because you can see at a glance how you are doing in getting the proper balance of calories, fat, protein, carbs, etc. So yes, start there.

But that said, I also think you need to make a meal plan that includes foods you love so that you can a) learn to eat them in moderation and b) avoid feeling deprived. That's one of the big strengths of Beck's approach.

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4/22/10 3:20 P

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I have a different view of this. I think that "eating when you are hungry" might work for some people but not for everyone. For you (and for me), I like the idea of having a nicely structured food plan that has healthy meals and snacks, and if it is a good "time" to be eating, you should eat your planned meal or snack.

I think that after years of eating "wrong", a person can lose touch with genuine hunger. If you have days where you are "hungry" all day and other days where you are never "hungry", I wonder seriously if it is truly hunger. I think that this in one Beck idea that does not fit you well.

It can't be a good idea to put in high calorie unhealthy foods to get up to your calories. I can't see how that could possibly be a good strategy. I would say, try sticking to a healthy structured plan for a while, and then try out what it would feel like to wait an extra hour to eat. You may recapture your true hunger feeling, but if not, I wouldn't worry.

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4/22/10 11:37 A

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Boy, what a good problem to have! That said, I think good nutrition trumps the hunger argument. You have to get a good balance of nutrients, so eat 'em, girlfriend.

Here's an idea - I'm going to channel Martha Beck. Maybe you could work in some of your favorite foods which are probably higher in calories. You could do it as your special "treat" at the end of the day. But do it with intention and control. In my case, I've been trying it with Wheat Thins and Laughing Cow cheese. I had previously had no control over Wheat Thins - would eat half a box in one sitting. So now I buy a SMALL box, and pick a time when I am feeling full. I count out individual servings (16 crackers) into small zip-lock backs, put them into a larger zip lock bag and put it in a high, hard to access cabinet. A couple of times a week, I let myself have a baggie of wheat thins and a wedge of Laughing Cow cheese, and I savor every single bite. Irony is, I get far more pleasure out of my 16 Wheat Thins than I ever did when I was stuffing 5 at a time into my mouth. You could do the same with whatever your favorite food is. Hope this helps!

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4/22/10 11:20 A

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Sorry this is long!

Ok. So I know that Beck says to eat only when hungry... however, if I do that, then there are some days I won't even eat!

Some days I'm starving all day and some days I just don't feel hungry. Take yesterday for instance. Breakfast and lunch were good at 455 and 326 calories each. That leaves me with dinner and two snacks to fill the rest of the calories. I went for a long walk yesterday before dinner, burning over 300 calories, I was famished. I had a tiny chicken breast and lots of oriental vegetables. When I was done I was full. Not icky full. Just right. That dinner accounted for only 230 calories bringing me to slightly over 1000 calories. I was still feeling full when I went to bed and couldn't eat my snacks.

I drank two cokes (which I don't usually do) bringing my total to 1292 which is still BELOW my recommended minimum of 1320. If I hadn't had the cokes, I would be really below.

So, my questions are:

If I'm going to get my required nutrients how in the world can I really rely on my "hunger"? (and if I'm eating every three hours like I usually have scheduled I NEVER feel hungry)

But how can I eat when I still feel full, cause then I'll feel sick from over eating?

and my last... What are some ways to eat higher calorie foods but still eating healthy?

This situation happens to me a LOT so an help will be graciously accepted!

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