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1/7/13 5:38 A

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ImVegan - I don't think any of should preach to others or that you would need to - it sounds to me like you live by example! Sorry to hear you have physical ailments; I find it inspirational that you are managing them through a healthy food plan. That's great! Thanks for sharing, Pat

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1/6/13 10:36 A

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I really don't preach to people I know in my life because unfortunately I am quite ill and I would appear to be a hypocrite. Eating a whole foods plant based diet did not cure my 6 autoimmune diseases nor the damage caused by them or by the medications to my body over the years. Eating this way keeps me as healthy as possible though and possibly keeps them from progressing. Many people that I know from support groups have progressive forms of my diseases that I have stopped. They have now developed heart disease and diabetes from the medication that I do not have. I just keep eating healthy and enjoying the food that I eat and hope that one day I will begin to climb up hill again.

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1/6/13 8:26 A

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gogo - excellent point! It's been interesting to watch the reactions of people who hear for the first time "I've decided to go Vegan". Some give the expected "what do you eat, dirt and twigs?" or I simply get a blank stare.

Live by example - it's always the best approach emoticon

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1/6/13 12:25 A

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Good one, GOGO. That will tweak my junk food siblings noses!! emoticon

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1/6/13 12:11 A

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To those people in our life who heckle us about our veg life.
Why did you have nothing to say when I sat down with a soda and a donut?
But yet, when I sit down with a glass of almond milk and a carrot, you attack my food choices?

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1/5/13 10:18 P

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IMVEGAN that is alot of great info...thanks

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1/5/13 6:05 P

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Thanks for the advice. I have watched the FOK video which is where I learned about the value of a plant-based diet. Dr. Furhman talks about "healthy" saute using water. That would be a whole lot cheaper than buying oils. I also saw a saute pan advertized that needs no oil, butter, margarine, etc. I guess I am going to have to do another "shift" in my thinking about food. I grew up eating fried, and deep fried food. Oh well, I've only been eating healthy since Aug 2011. Time to lose another "essential" cooking ingredient. emoticon

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1/5/13 5:32 P

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Don't worry about carbs? You are going to eat a lot of them! Vegans do. They are great for you! Processed carbs like crackers and junk are NOT! but veggies, fruits and whole food carbs are great for you..... Eat those.

Fats are a controversy. I don't eat added fat. I don' have a bottle of fat (olive oil or canola) in my house except a small bottle of sesame oil for when I add a small drop into one of my Asian recipes. I do have some Tahini for making some Hummus, but I use about 1/4 of the amount the recipe calls for. I get my fat from whole foods. Fat like protein is in most foods. Oats have fat. Olives have fat, beans, tofu, avocado, etc. most foods carry enough fat in them to give you the healthy amount of fat you need to thrive. Olive oil is rancid fat, Coconut oil is saturated fat. ..... etc. I believe what Drs. Esselstyn, McDougall, Fuhrman, Ornish, Campbell, etc say about added fat in the diet. My diet usually has about 10% fat in it. That is why I easily reached my goal weight and I stay there eating lots of food. LOTS of food.

People are going to disagree with me on the fat issue. You are going to hear about "Healthy fat" but fat has almost no nutritive value.... at. all. They will talk about the people in the Mediterranean. That is old research. The folks there are having heart attacks now just like Americans because they are fat like Americans because they eat too much fat.

I suggest you go to Netflix and watch Forks Over Knives and the Extended Interviews.

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1/5/13 5:19 P

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Thank you so much for the protein ratio!! I eat a lot of my foods raw or in smoothies and my protein count is always "skewed" from what SP says. Do you happen to know the ratio of fat and carbs? Or shouldn't I worry about tracking them? There is still so much to learn.

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Vegan foods are beans/legumes (you can find them everywhere) fruits (you can find them everywhere) whole grains (you can find them everywhere) and veggies (you can find them every where). So you are good to go. The rest of the vegan foods that you are talking about are extras and are really not necessary, are HIGHLY processed and should be eaten only every once in a while. THE GOOD NEWS IS: you can make wonderfully delicious meals with just those 4 food groups. Now if you can find silken tofu (shelf stable) (great for deserts etc.)and firm or extra firm tofu (great for breakfast scrambles, stir fries, baked dishes, lasagna, etc.) (It is found in many main line grocery stores these days) You can add these into your diet to add some more delicious recipes too. If you order on line you can add a great variety of things like nutritional yeast, quinoa, couscous, millet, bulgur, vital wheat gluten (used to make your own Italian sau*sages, pepperoni etc). So you don't need to live in a place that has any of those highly processed foods to buy because they are not good for you and they are very easy to make. You just need a few kitchen appliances, a stove, and a willingness to learn.
NOW PROTEIN:
Men and women protein intake range based on IDEAL body weight: Not your current weight unless you are at your ideal weight.

Minimum Daily Protein Requirement: W.H.O. recommends 0.45 grams of protein per kilogram of ideal body weight per day.
Maximum Daily Protein Requirement: US RDA recommends 0.8 grams of protein per kilogram of ideal body weight per day.

So to figure your protein needs based upon these figures: Find your IDEAL body weight. You do not have to feed fat. (makes sense right?)

Then divide that number by 2.2 to change the number to kilos.

Then multiply it by .45 to get your LOW amount of protein in a day
and multiply .8 to get your UPPER grams of protein per day.

Stay within those numbers and you are good. They are lower than you thought they would be right? Even if you are a weight lifter these are good numbers for you because as you gain muscle your weight goes up and your protein needs go up. These numbers are flexible. Remember your body does not store protein. If you eat too much you just pee it away. What a waste! So just eat a healthy diet and DON'T worry about it anymore. If you eat a healthy varied whole food vegan diet. You will be eating healthier than anyone you know. I promise.


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Hello Mandy and Welcome. I have lived in the South and know what you mean about meat consumption and deep fried food. I also empathize with you about your boyfriend. My hubby is still a carnivore but cooking and eating harmoniously is possible. He even likes some of the vegan foods I cook now.

Here is a link that I found when transitioning to vegan last year. www.veganessentials.com . They have everything - food, personal items, cleaning supplies, etc.

A word or 2 about gardening. Try to get non-GMO seeds and use organic compost when planting veggies. Plant veggies that can be canned or frozen for use in the winter.

I hope this helped.

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Welcome! I'm a Vegan in training as well. There is a lot to learn. I started the topic "Lessons Learned" on this team and have learned so much already from fellow Vegans/Vegetarians. It does take a lot of research but I find that exciting.

Have you ever heard of The Sweetest Vegan? You can find her on YouTube. She is an adorable young lady that is also from the South and is trying to refocus people away from fried/fatty foods to a healthier lifestyle. www.youtube.com/user/thesweetestvega
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I am so happy I found this team; it will make my transition so much easier and enjoyable.

Best of luck!! Pat

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1/5/13 3:48 P

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don't go by the spark protein recommendations, I'm not sure how to figure it out how much you need (somewhere I've seen how to figure it out but don't know were) We just don't need as much protein as everyone says. Just remember that all fruits and veggies have protein in them. Here are some sites that will help you:

vegetarian.about.com/od/healthnutrit
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www.vrg.org/nutrition/protein.htm

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Hello everybody!
I am Mandy, a 24(in 23 days!)-year-old college senior in Mississippi. I have been wanting to go vegan for quite a while, but I have been allowing myself to finish off my dairy products in the fridge and pantry while doing plenty of research to be sure I do this thing the right way. My biggest trials are two: I live in the Deep South and meat consumption is a religion around here.
I cannot find anyone (including family and the boyfriend) who is encouraging of my decision to become animal friendly in my living and eating. It makes it very hard to make this transition from carnivore to vegan. Another problem I am running into is being able to find healthy or high-quality vegan foods, as I live in a tiny town with only one very small health food store. That said, if anyone knows a place online that ships good vegan foods, I'd love to hear about it!
I officially began my transition two days ago, when I opened my SP account, to help keep me in line. So far, my body is adapting VERY well to the lack of meat and dairy. I have never been a big meat eater (with the exception of fish), and I have been on strictly almond milk for months now, so I'm not really having any kind of cravings. The only nutritional problem I am facing so far is getting adequate protein intake every day. I have fallen short each day so far, so I will need to research some more methods for taking in protein, as I've been putting in solid workouts daily.
In the new year, I am hoping not only to vegan-ize my wardrobe and kitchen, but I am going to make my entire home green, bit by bit, and I am on track to lose 65 pounds by August. I hope to meet some great folks here for support on this journey.

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