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8/21/08 12:13 A

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Actually I thought maybe it was something relating to your Kosher foods..... didn't think of acronym..
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8/21/08 12:11 A

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I'm happy to help when I can. Feel free to ask. I didn't mean to say that you should Google every time instead of asking.

I've been on the Net for longer than some of our members here have been alive, so I do tend to use those acronyms. The funny part is that the texting generation seems to think they made them up ;-).

Oh, and the same goes for the emoticons ;-).

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8/21/08 12:01 A

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Thanks so much... DUH, I didn't try google........




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8/20/08 11:59 P

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AFAIK: As Far As I Know.

Lots of those acronyms out there. Google is your friend ;-).

HTH! (Hope This Helps)

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8/20/08 11:21 A

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FOR 'ME', the slow one.
Can you tell me what this means? AFAIK

(from your latest post)
Especially since, AFAIK, most if not all kosher meat in North America is factory farmed



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I think sometimes people who are experimenting with changes of lifestyle are looking for someone to tell them "the rules" - eat this, don't eat that. If that is what you need, I highly recommend checking out a religion. My own is like that, I stick to it religiously (pun intended) and it is very good for me. Within the bounds of that religion, though, I have chosen to restrict my diet further (in other words, to abstain from foods that are otherwise permitted, such as the flesh of certain ritually slaughtered mammals, certain birds and most kinds of fish). I made this choice originally because I was having serious health issues, which have since greatly improved. I moved from there to feeling that, since there is no survival benefit to eating animals in the city where I live, I really have no good argument for doing so. Especially since, AFAIK, most if not all kosher meat in North America is factory farmed. If I found a source of free-range, organic, grass-fed kosher meat, I might be tempted. The book "Animal, Vegetable, Miracle" has had a powerful impact on me, in that regard. If I could raise my own chickens like Barbara Kingsolver does, maybe I would eat them. But it is not possible where I live, so the whole thing is academic. I do buy free range eggs and organic milk, though.

If you choose to include such restrictions in your life, you need to give some serious thought to your motivations, and act accordingly.

I think this need for careful thought is the hardest part of this kind of change.

Good luck, Kristan, Ashley and everybody. We are all weird or we wouldn't be here . emoticon


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8/19/08 11:55 P

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I just thought I'd add my opinion to this if since I don't see it anywhere else.

I don't eat meat, as in chicken, beef, pork, rabbit, and so on. I also don't eat fish as in salmon, tilapia, haddock, shrimp, lobster.

I will eat clams and mussels though. Now hear out my rationale. Animals and fish all have complex nervous systems. They can learn, respond to pain, form attachments, social networks, and all that. They have 3/4 part nervous systems. Plants (for the most part, pesky venus fly traps) and some sea creatures such as coral, urchins, clams, and mussels only have a 2 part nervous system. They don't do this stuff. They can react to pain, but they never learn from it. Their brains are pretty much brain stems.

Reiterating what other people have said, it really depends on why you're doing what you're doing. Don't let anyone guilt trip you, or try to put you in a little box. You need to make a decision you think is right for you, not for someone else.

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Reading all your replies to Kristen--by the way, Welcome Kristen!!--has really been good for me. I so agree that it doesn't matter what name you use or even what your eating patterns are as long as you are satisfied with how and what you are eating. I have chosen to be a vegetarian for over 15 years for many reasons. But I usually don't eat eggs or dairy at home. Every once in a while I'll eat fish.

I no longer feel weird trying to put myself into a category box. Thanks all.
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8/19/08 12:28 P

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1st welcome to the group!

Now for me I stopped eating animals for my moral reasons, but certainly not to impress anyone else.
However this is a very personal decision that only you can and should make.

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8/19/08 12:18 P

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8/19/08 11:33 A

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I've found this to be the case too. I've been vegetarian for over 20 years, and people always assume that I eat fish.

I think it's the Catholic Church's fault!!! :) Seriously, though, when more catholics used to follow the Church's "meatless" dictate on Fridays, they were allowed to eat fish. That's my theory on why people assume that fish is not meat.

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I too recommend the Omnivore's Dilemma - I'm just about finished with it and found it very thought provoking.

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8/19/08 10:00 A

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Very well said Sara.. It really is about health and well being. So whatever you call it doesn't really make a lot of difference ..unless you are trying to impress someone with your moral issues.

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8/19/08 7:59 A

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Hi Kristan,
Welcome to the Team! I agree with the others who posted. The main thing is to do what makes you feel comfortable.


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8/19/08 2:07 A

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We have been vegetarians for over 30 years, and lots of people assume we eat fish. I wouldn't worry so much about definitions and worry more about what feels right for you to be doing. I went through a peiod of time where I felt very protein-deprived, and I started eating fish after years of not. Now I don't eat fish very much at all, but if I feel like it, I will. (I don't cook it or eat it in the house, because my DH really doesn't like it.) I guess the question is, "why do you care?" On this team there are a lot ov vegans, who are vegetarians who don't eat dairy or eggs as well as meat, fish, chicken, etc. Some people have very strong moral reasons for what they do. I think that unless you care very much about what some other people think, or if you decide that you yourself have very strong reasons about what you want to be eating and why, that it's fine to do what feels right for your body. If you want to read a book that has a lot to say about the moral issues involved in eating, check out The Omnivore's Dilemma. It will give you lots of food for thought.

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Hello and welcome to the team. Glad to have you in the group. I agree with what the others have said. In my opinion, if you want to eat fish, eat fish. It is that simple. Fish is very good for you. I do not eat fish, chicken, or red meat. However, I do eat dairy. My reason for not eating fish, chicken, or red meat were determined over 35 years ago. I didn't want to eat anything that was once a living creature. However, that is where my thinking stopped. I didn't think about eggs or dairy in the equation. I don't really care for eggs, so I guess I really don't eat those either, but I love yogurt and cheese. I am happy with my eating habits. I don't often explain my eating habits to anyone, but since you are concerned about to eat fish or not eat fish...I say eat it if you want to. It is entirely up to you and what you want to do. Take care and keep in touch.

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8/19/08 12:08 A

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Hi Kristan,

What is meat?

Some people seem to define meat as coming from the body of a creature that is cute and fuzzy, and therefore consider the death of cold-blooded creatures to be a lesser matter than that of mammals or even birds.

I personally do not see the distinction between different types of fauna, but, luckily, nobody has put me in charge of the universe yet ;-). I do kill slugs if I find them in my garden, and I slap mosquitoes, too.

I believe the current term for what you describe is "pescaterian".

I wouldn't worry too much about it. Is it very important to you to be considered a vegetarian? How about just a person who strives for a healthy lifestyle and treading lightly on the earth? That should cut back on the number of cute and fuzzy creatures you eat considerably ...



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8/19/08 12:01 A

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This is the best explanation I can find on the subject. It may not clarify it enough for you, but I am sure there are plenty of people here that can guide you more clearly. It may just confuse you more.

Vegetarians do not eat meat, fish or poultry, but might eat dairy products such as cheese, eggs, yogurt or milk. Vegetarians are not as predictable in their beliefs, as there are many reasons to become vegetarian that donít necessarily include altruism as a primary motive. For example, many vegetarians have eliminated meat for the sake of their health. In fact, there are a great many people lumped into the category of vegetarian. Lacto-vegetarians will eat dairy, but not eggs. Ovo-vegetarians will eat eggs, but not dairy. Lacto-ovo vegetarians will eat eggs and dairy products. The reasons for these choices are varied and based on individual beliefs. In some cases they are based on moral choices, and in others on dietary needs or simple preference



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hi my name is Kristan......I'm this is my second go as a vegetarian.....I just have some questions....is it alright to have fish since its not meat and still be a vegetarian? Let me know.....I want to know

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