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9/12/12 7:53 A

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Mzz, thanks for all the information! I am going to create a new topic because I have some other questions.

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9/11/12 8:41 P

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Selenium is the mineral your body uses to convert T4 to T3. A good multivitamin can help if you don't like natural or can't tolerate natural food sources of Selenium. There are also foods which (may) make hypothyroidism worse - these are foods that contain goitrogens (compounds that can inhibit thyroid function). Some of these foods (like broccoli) are very good for us nutritionally, but some scientists believe they may make hypothyroidism worse. I do not know of any scientific studies that prove that theory however, so it is just something to consider.

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9/11/12 4:12 P

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Hashimoto is an auto-immune thyroid disorder that is treated much the same way as hypothyroidism. GP's and Endo's will often put people who have Hashimoto's on something like Synthroid to try and control TSH levels and symptoms to a degree. The trick is keeping the TSH and other levels in an acceptable range and not letting them all get out of whack which is common with Hashi even with frequent check-ups. Doctors will typically start you at the lowest dose of Synthroid/Levothyroxine (25 mcg I believe) and ramp it or down as needed. The thought is that the auto-immune response in your body will eventually destroy your thyroid and your levels will even out, making it easier to maintain a specific dose of medication which is typically for the remainder of your life.

There are a lot of other ways to "treat" Hashimoto's beyond this. Different vitamins and minerals are helpful as Mz Chief pointed out. She has a lot of posts on this topic in the forums so if you comb through them you will find a lot more info and help than what I can give in a short response. Ultimately though you will need to find what is right for you and what makes you feel better. Some symptoms may always be there so there is really no treatment for this that will alleviate everything. It's more about making the disorder manageable for you.

There is a decent article on wikipedia about Hashimoto's Thyroiditis if you want more specific scientific information on it. Other than that, be careful with the self-research on it and other thyroid diseases. There is so much information out there that it gets overwhelming and confusing very quickly.

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9/11/12 4:12 P

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Hey Lisa!

Most of us have Hashimoto's thyroiditis.
Its an autoimmune condition.
What happens is that our bodies mistakenly make antibodies... the things that fight infection... to two substances that our thyroid makes. It thinks these two things are germs... and fights them. IN the process of getting to them, thyroid tissue becomes collateral damage. That's why the thyroid gets inflamed and enlarged, thats why you get nodules and goiter. All of that is because of these two auto-antibodies we've made.

The two substances are:
* an enzyme that helps make thyroid hormone called Thyroid Peroxidase... or TPO.
* a protein that is the "raw material" of thyroid hormone, known as Thyroglobulin

Scientists aren't sure why our body makes this mistake. There is some speculation that people who have gluten intolerance and continue to eat grains alike wheat, barley and rye, are more susceptible, as the gluten protein resembles Thyroglobulin. Other theories are that an infection like lyme disease, yersinia or some other pathogen are responsible. Still others point at the higher rate of thyroid disease in women, and propose its the disruption of the immune system necessary for a woman to carry a child, and cells from the child crossing the placenta into the blood stream as a cause. There's also thought that the ballet ofmonth cycles women go thru, all the release and shifting of the hormones, predisposes women to something going wrong, the body making a mistake.

No one knows for sure.
It may be one or a combination of things that causes it.

To answer your question... some people do stablize and can get off hormones. Others... there's been too much damage to the thyroid and they have to take supplemental thyroid hormone for the remainder of their lives.

Thankfully its one of the least expensive drugs. Walmart's generic is $4 a month!

The yeast is called Nutritional Yeast.
I really like the taste... it comes in powdered or flake form, I prefer the flake.
I get the Sprouts brand when its on sale. Its great stirred into soup at the table (B vitamins are heat sensitive so you don't want to "cook" it), sprinkled on veggies, or in green smoothies.

Here's something about it: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nutritional_ye
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I don't know how old your kids are, but now might be a good time to get them to help you around the house... at least as far as taking responsibility for their bathroom and bedrooms goes. If they're ten or older, they can start doing their own laundry. They are going to have to learn sooner or later!

Another idea is to work until around 9:30 and stop.
If whatever doesn't get done, then leave it. When people complain, explain you need help.
What you might discover, is that they don't even notice. LOL

Bottom line is that you are doing too much. And you have to stop for the sake of your health, that's basically what your doc said.

As for vitamin C, I like the powdered ascorbic acid I get in 8 oz jars. Its pure C, it has nothing else in it. A 1/8 of a spoonful is 1081% of your RDA for C. So a little goes a long way. I drink distilled water now, but when I drank tap or when I use tap water now to soak my produce, I put C in it. For drinking, I'd put in about a peppercorn sized amount to a gallon jug of water.

Hope this helps!
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9/11/12 3:01 P

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Thank you for all the information! What is the treatment for Hashimoto Thyroiditis? Is it something that I could have the rest of my life?

What is the yeast you were talking about? I have three boys (ages 10, 5 and 3) so my diet does include a lot of fast processed meals. I think it is time to evaluate what I feed my family! And relaxing in the evenings is hard! I'm married but the majority of the housework and taking care of the kids falls on my shoulders. So I'm constantly going until I finally fall into bed right before midnight! How much vitamin C is recommended daily?

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9/11/12 11:47 A

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hey Lisa!
Welcome to our team.
Sorry your thyroid's being pesky.
We know what that's like here.

I can only second what Gilden said so well.
Something you might try is an anti-inflammatory diet.
This means sticking to fresh, unprocessed foods with a low glycemic index.
Perferably Organic, not because they are any better for you nutritionally, but because they don't have any pesticide or herbicide residue. Two things that make our thyroids got OUCH.

An anti-inflammatory diet will help your entire body as well as your thyroid by keeping your body free of drastic insulin spikes.
Recently I've been taking to making "green drinks" in my blender, of leafy greens.
They are much easier to drink than to chew! LOL

The exhaustion diagnosis sounds as if you need to just start making time to take care of yourself. Its difficult to know what to suggest as you've not given us much information about yourself. But getting to bed before 10, making sure you're getting adequate sleep is key. So is finding a way to unwind after your day that does not involve food! I take a walk every nite... this summer in the 104 degree heat I was the only one out there, but I persisted! No so sure what will come once winter sets in...

Another thing you might want to look into is a source of selenium.
I eat both brewers yeast and a couple of Brazil Nuts everyday specific to this purpose.
If you don't have allergy to either one, I would suggest it. Brewers yeast is not Candida, the pathogenic type of yeast. Its also a good source of B vitamins.

Another good one is vitamin C.
Our adrenals need this, its where C is concentrated in the body.
You can add a small amount to your drinking water jug and get a low dose thruout the day.
C also dechlorinates tap water.
We are encouraged to drink 8 glasses of water a day... between the fluoride and chlorine load, that's a dose of halogens that our thyroids were not equipped by evolution to process.

When you have an "exhaustion" diagnosis, this means your adrenals need help, because they have been working overtime. If you can be in bed by 10pm, this will heal them as well.

A probiotic is another good choice. Bacteria in our guts help with the conversion of the storage form of thyroid hormone (t4) to the active (t3). Your gut also is the prime producer of seratonin, a neurotransmitter, as well as providing immunity for the entire body.


Don't want to overwhelm you with information.
If you have any questions, please ask.

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This happens a lot with people who have Hashimoto Thyroiditis. You can be full blown hypo one month and swing way over to hyper the next. It is dependant on how badly your body has destroyed your thyroid thus far. Your thyroid can sputter back to life, putting out an excess of thyroid hormones and cause you to become severely hyper or it could be completely inactive and make you very hypo.

If you have not been diagnosed with Hashimoto Thyroiditis and you are taking medicines like Levothyroxine or Armour it is possible your medication levels need to be adjusted.

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I've been a member for a little while but haven't been online much. I just saw my endocrynologist last week and had more blood work and an ultra sound done. My first round of blood work showed my thyroid levels were low, pointing to hyperthyroid. My recent labs showed my levels are now high. He has diagnosed me with Thyroiditis and exhaustion. They also found a syst on the left side of my thyroid that is only .6 cm. They do not think the syst is causing my symptoms and there really isn't much they can do since it is so small. I'm new to all this. Has anyone else ever had their TSH levels flip flop like that? I have no enlargement or goiters or anything. I'm not sure what to think and he's not really giving me any information. I go back in 6 weeks for more blood work.

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