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6/21/16 10:22 A

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Hello! I just posted in a different thread, but here goes again! I've been on The Plan for 8 days and have lost 7.2lb (actually 7 if you count my 0.2lb gain today). I'm still not to the point where I can see my weight simple as data as Lyn-Genet suggests. I'm not sure what has caused the recent upswing (stable yesterday), but I am going to stay the course. I set my mind to 20 days, come hell or high water. All in all I've been happy with the results, as I could have pulled my story word for word from the book. When I was 32-33 I lost 35lb and pretty much kept it off until it started creeping back up on me despite my best efforts. I eat clean, exercise regularly, and take care of myself. I have seen nutritionists (told me I was doing everything right, keep up the good work), a dietician (gained 2lb in the 2 months I worked with her), an endocrinologist and my PCP (both told me I had a slow metabolism and should go on weight loss drugs, which I refused).

I'm so excited at the prospect of figuring this whole thing out, but want to make sure I am getting the right information from my body. The Plan seems fairly subjective in places, which I do not fare well with. I like my info clear and concrete! :-) And, to add to my own confusion, I'm going to exercise today for the first time in a couple of weeks (I was sick and then on phase 1) and am sure I will see something on the scale for that as I am going to crossfit and know my muscles will be retaining some water.

Anyway, now that you can see inside my crazy mind, any thoughts, suggestions, advice are completely welcome and appreciated. Thanks and nice to be here!

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6/19/16 10:05 A

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hi Tracey -and welcome!!!!

ideally, one doesn't have any beverage after dinner, is how I have always understood TP - though I know some do relax with some wine in the evening occasionally.

Test lemonade!
Test iced tea!!!

I can do lemonade, though I don't choose to very often due to the added sugars.
I have had a Cola work just fine on TP, I just don't do it very often because of my own feelings about improving my health.

TEST whatever you are wanting!!!!

TP sets the ideal, and you can make it your own - just keep on eye on the data!

sounds like you are doing well on TP - congrats!
and wishing you the very best with your son's hospital event. {hug}

Edited by: JAVAFLOWER at: 6/19/2016 (10:06)

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6/18/16 4:05 P

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HI All: I have had some pretty good success on the plan. I am just starting to branch out and try adding new recipes to add to my friendly foods. I am also trying to stay away from wine. I was wondering if there are any other options for non-alcoholic beverages at night. I know there are teas and water, but I'm a little tired of them. I am missing iced tea and lemonade. I have a busy life and travel a lot, so I get through a week, travel, come home and start where I left off after a day or 2 back on the cleanse. I have a hospital stay with my son coming up and I am preparing and packing some non-reactive foods - not sure I will feel like eating - but I am not great at sourcing out restaurants with plan friendly meals. I do have to say overall - this is the most success I have had with losing weight this rapidly and maintaining- all while travelling and drinking wine - gotta love that

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5/22/16 10:59 A

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Hello Everyone,
Starting back on the plan again..... I have never made it past a week. But, this time I am determined to make a perm change and drop 10 lbs. I always feel better on the plan, but have a tough time passing on pizza and martinis!


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4/26/16 12:32 P

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Thanks JAVAFLOWER

The carrot soup is growing on me, but I had to ditch the cream of broccoli. I might try it again later, but a small batch. I suspect that it may be better without refrigerating and reheating it. Or I may try sauteing the veggies in the soup--which sounds very appealing.

Down a few more pounds, yeah!



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4/25/16 10:40 A

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Welcome MYKARENA!!!!

I envy you those first days!

difficult, but for many of us we had big weight losses and new information to work with!

wishing you the best!
please join us in the chat thread!


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4/25/16 9:10 A

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Hello,

I am on day one of the plan and nervous and hopeful at the same time.

Glad there is a group here for support.

Remember - it's very difficult to keep momentum when it's you that you are following - Evita
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4/23/16 11:01 P

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Welcome Mia

I have heard of some people taking the components and having them instead - instead of the carrot soup, have sauted carrots, zucchini, ginger. (have you looked at our carrot soup thread here? - there are ways to tweak the carrot soup for the better!)

congrats on a good start!


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4/22/16 12:49 P

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Hi! I love the comradery, support, and sharing of stories here

I'm on Day 3 of TP. Lost 3 lbs, but am struggling with some of the food. Sitting in my office with the cream of broccoli soup and cannot stomach it. The smell is making me gag. I wasn't a fan of the carrot soup, but I pushed through it. Any suggestions?

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4/6/16 11:43 A

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Wow, thanks for all the helpful information! Yes, I will come by the daily chat too. This advice you have listed is very useful!

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4/6/16 10:53 A

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Maya:
Lots of us succeeded with the book menus - but with the caveat to change Day four and not test so many things on one day and making chickpeas a test themselves.

The workbooks are a bit rehash, a bit updates, but between the book and the updated menus online you can do okay without the workbooks, IMHO.

There are updated menus at lyngenet.com under the 'Downloads/book' tab.
All of the menus online are Thyroid Friendly!
One should not be doing the Spring Menus until your area has reached 70 degrees+ for a couple of weeks - is what Lyn-Genet used to say.

You can get quite a bit of information from our forums by just reading the old threads of others' posts from prepping and going through those first days.

PREP - that is a biggie! The first few days seem like alot of food prep, but once you get into the flow, it is leftovers and a little prep from day to day.
There is a Prep PDF on the lyngenet.com site under that same tab that isn't perfect, but is helpful! I did a Prep day the day before I started, as I recall.

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4/5/16 10:35 P

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Hi Java,

If you have any good tips on approaching The Plan for the first time, let me know. One thing I'm wondering is if it is a good idea to buy the "The Plan Workbook Thyroid Friendly: Spring/Summer", in addition to the book "The Plan"....or is that just rehash of the main book?

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4/5/16 6:01 P

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Hi MayaAngel
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Welcome!!!!






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4/4/16 3:19 P

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Hi! I am reading "The Plan" right now. Only about 1/3 of the way in.

I have been dealing with food sensitivities for several years now. Several years ago I tried "The Virgin Diet" on a total whim, not expecting anything and amazed to find out how much better I felt without dairy and gluten. Now it's several years down the road and I've been working with a naturopath and taking food sensitivity tests that show my sensitivities lessening. Lately I've been experimenting, adding back gluten and dairy after a 3 year rest, with mixed results. Then I happened upon this book and thought it might really help me figure out just which things are not working out for me. For one thing I have gained 10 lbs in the last year after my initial weight loss on The Virgin Diet plan. Anyhow, this book looks intriguing. I wrote my naturopath for her opinion of my giving it a try. She has me on $150/month of supplements, so I think that is the main conflict. I'd be willing to give The Plan a try including cutting back on the supplements. Anyhow, job now is to read the book. Just thought I'd say Hi!

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1/18/16 9:38 A

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sorry I didn't see this earlier -
Any day you don't lose at least 0.4 you should take a friendly day and get that much of a loss before continuing with the menus
UNLESS you are close to goal weight
- then you need to take other things into consideration more strongly as reactions or friendly

Welcome!
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1/16/16 8:37 A

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Hi I'm new. Started the plan 6 days ago. Lost 4 lbs in the first 3 days, then stalled on day 4 and 5. Not sure if it was the wine, cheese or coffee. Thinking I should do a "friendly day" today?

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On her facebook page she says up to 6000mg a day. But on this video www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oOdE6rlj-w she recommends 3000mg for a person my weight. I have been taking the 6000 for maybe 3 weeks and while it has helped my allergies I've been having more mild headaches than usual. I was blaming it on the allergies, but listening to this videos I'm scaling back to 3000 a day for the next 3 weeks. I'll let you know how it goes.

One more thing - we chat here www.sparkpeople.com/myspark/team_mes
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Come join the conversation! I find the daily sharing with friends on the same plan to be very helpful!!

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9/12/15 12:03 A

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Thank you so much for your answer.Since you told me it could stall weight loss I will do more research before I decide to use it.I have been using some really great vitamin b complex for about three months now but it might be too much using it on the plan.I might only use some kelp and vitamin d while on the plan.I have hashimoto disease. I am just so greatful that there is a solution for my weight issues. emoticon

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9/11/15 9:45 P

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Welcome Svetlana!

I am afraid I may not be of much help.
Personally, I opted not to take the MSM.
There was some talk on the author's facebook page of people saying it caused them to stall in weightloss, so you may want to treat it as a test rather than assume it is okay.
We briefly hit on that in this thread: www.sparkpeople.com/myspark/team_mes
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And as to the amounts suggested in the book - wow, she is NOT crystal clear if she means per day for six weeks, even it is worded differently in TP and TP cookbook.

You might do best to look for more information on Lyn-Genet's facebook page or to contact her, if you feel MSM is a supplement you want to try.

again, my apologies for not knowing this answer...
and because it is also medical supplementation, I wouldn't want to steer you wrong.
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9/11/15 9:05 P

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Hello I am new too,

I am starting tomorrow as I needed to get couple of more things to get ready. I am not sure how much MSM supplement we are supposed to take. She says 3000-6000 mg for 6 weeks. Does this mean weekly that amount or daily?

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9/7/15 7:40 P

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Hi and Welcome TRYAGIN and wife!

come on up into the chat thread when you are ready!

My Hubby and I started The Plan together in February 2103. It was great working it together in those early months!

The important thing to remember is that you and your wife's friendly and reactive foods will probably be different as you get to testing.

ooo - I envy you the first days on TP!




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9/7/15 6:57 P

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Hi,

My wife and I are starting the Plan today. It took us several days to get ready.
We had the flax granola this morning and carrot ginger soup for lunch with the salad.
We were too full to eat the broccoli.
Hope it works out for us.

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8/27/15 5:00 P

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Hi there PSMITHEZ!

Even if psoriasis is not directly related to diet, I can imagine a body less inflamed that can then combat things like psoriasis better!

please come on up and chat and share in the daily thread when you are ready... it has been kind of slow in here, as the end of summer often is, but there are a few of us hanging around.

WELCOME!
I'm rooting for you!!!


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8/27/15 10:52 A

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I have been a watcher of spark people and reader of all the emails SP has sent me for many years but I haven't really tried to lose weight. Until God lead me to this book. I have 3 sisters that have the same body shape as I and our Mother had. I am convinced that we have all suffered from this inflammation and I am hoping TP will help me identify them. I just finished day 10 and thus far have been reactive to eggs and scallops. I have tried to follow every tip and I pray that after day 20 I'll have a good report that I can send to my sisters. On the hunt for more info about reactive foods, I came across SP again. Just this week I first understood the importance of potassium to negate some sodium. We also all have/had skin issues and although the Dr all said that psoriasis is not related to diet, I hoping to see TP prove that wrong too.

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Welcome Back, Lucy!

please feel free to come on up and talk with us in the Daily checkin and chat thread!


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7/27/15 8:37 A

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New old member here. Did the Plan in 2013, and it worked great. Had a life interruption that made Planning difficult, but that issued is done, and I am restarting today.

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7/13/15 3:43 P

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Hi VLATRICE! and welcome

I would not sub spinach in this early - spinach is goitrogenic and should be a test, if you've already done it - well then - we'll see what happens.

0.4 is a fine loss for the first day.
You haven't said if you have alot to lose or just a bit - and results can vary regardless,
but 0.4 is okay after Day One - your body just may be one that doesn't jump in quickly.

though you had a bit of a belly ache and were gassy after lunch, I probably would have done the menu by the book anyway. The gassiness/stomach issue could just be cleanse related and settle out - BUT broccoli is a good guess as to what may be the issue - so I understand you wanting to take it out.

What supplements did you add - could any of them be the gastrointestinal issue?

The online menu is more updated since the book came out - but the book menu will work just fine OTHER THAN Day 4! where I would recommend not testing the 4 things the book says. (coffee, wine, chocolate, goat cheese) and choose coffee and only one of the other 3 or wine and one of the other 3 maybe.
AND she replaces the spicy veg soup with the cream of broccoli online for Day 2 because more people had reactions to garbanzo beans/chickpeas than her original data seemed to predict so she switched chickpeas to a different day test, if I recall correctly.

Coconut Milk beverage - like Silk - or Rice Milk is for breakfast with the flax granola, regardless of the menu - probably assumed you know flax granola, silk milk, blueberries for the first few days.

You DO NOT want to blenderize the flax, because this is not to be like ground flaxseed in your meals - only what you chew up is to be broken up - the rest acts similar to psylium seed in your digestive system and aids bowel movements. (TMI - but sometimes we have to talk about some of this!)

You might want to bake your next batch of flax granola a bit longer if you are finding it too slimy, that or you may just get used to it OR you might switch to the flax "porridge" from the new cookbook (the recipe is posted in the recipe thread here in our forum.)

Salad dressing - lemon juice and evoo for now -
Vinegar is VERY reactive for me - and if you want it, you should test it sometime, but I wouldn't recommend testing it quite yet, though that is mostly based on my reactions to it - lol

I would recommend trying to stay as close to the menus as you can for day 1-3 and even beyond, as there is some changing of tastes/cravings, etc that can happen if you go with the flow of the foods suggested.
and Lyn-Genet suggests picking ONE menu - book, online, etc and working with it. Each menu has been set up to provide nutrients in a certain way and early in the game it is best to stick with one.

There's my thoughts....

0.4 for Day One is good!!!!
Stay with it! You are doing fine!

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7/13/15 1:49 P

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HI, My I am new to the plan and when I read the book it made so much sense and possibly gave me answers to why I have been working out religiously for the last 6 weeks and not seeing any weight loss. I was eager to try so I bought the food, scale and supplements. Been snooping on this teams posts for some good tips and tricks. Well yesterday was my first day and I am only down .4 lbs :( Was hoping for something more jaw dropping. Less enthusiastic today, as I spent over $250 just to get started. I did everything right, no subs, drank my water...

I guess if I am looking for a reaction of some sort, I had a bit of a belly ache and gassy after lunch, soooooo I'm thinking broccoli??? Today I've subbed out the broccoli for spinach, per some comments in the posts. Thoughts?

Also a few questions: There seems to be a discrepancy in the online download for the spring menu and the book spring menu, One says you can have the coconut milk for breakfast and one doesn't mention it. Are we to have the coconut milk in the spring/ summer?

I am having a hard time getting down the flax granola, Yesterday I tried it with the coconut milk and it seems slimy, today without the coconut milk it it was really dry, any thoughts? We can't blend it into a coconut milk blueberry smoothy right? Or can we?

Any kind of dressing for the leafy greens? No vinegar right? just evo and lemon juice? I mixed the avacado with oil and lemon juice and made a sort of vinegrette, but would be much better with vinegar.

Please let me know anyone has thought, hints, tip, suggestions or encouragement.

Thanks.

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7/7/15 6:35 P

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My husband can come home for lunch so I'm hopeful that will make it easier for him to stay with it.

Having a place to check in is helpful for me. I'm really excited that I found this group!

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Hi Breny! Welcome!

My Hubby and I started The Plan together shortly after the book came out and it was some of the best months of our marriage!!!! Working together is great, but something about the mix of foods seemed to be calming, too. I am still working at it, but he only follows it in that he eats what I fix at home, (but eats reactive foods for him away from home!)

anyway - welcome!!!!





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7/7/15 5:53 P

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Hi Planners!

I'm Breny. I was on The Plan back in 2011 and was very successful. Lyn-Genet was my consultant, and I did a 20 day plan with her between Thanksgiving and Christmas. I lost 17 pounds and felt amazing. I've drifted away from Plan-friendly eating and my body is not happy. I have quite a bit of weight to lose and I'm ok with that.

My husband is very obese and he's finally decided that he's ready to make a change so we'll be Planning together. I'm gathering the tools we need and we'll be starting Thursday or Friday.

I look forward to getting to know you all!

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Welcome Chris!
I feel for ya!
Please don't pay too much attention to calories on The Plan, count them if you must, but eat what is suggested and as much as you want of the things that you can!

I'm rooting for ya!!!

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Day 1 on the plan for me. I'm praying this works for me. I'm that post-menopausal woman who's very obese but nothing is working. I have kept cLories under 1000 per day and still not losing weight. I'm just reserving judgment and I'm giving it my all.

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6/22/15 9:49 P

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Thanks JAVAFLOWER

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Hi Angela - Welcome!

yep - just get back at it!



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Hi, I'm Angela. I did 6 days on the plan and lost 5lbs. Unfortunately my sixth day fell on a Saturday and I over ate and age things not on the plan. So I decided to start over and do it right . Tomorrow will be Day 1.

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Sorry for the delay, AWIL1110!

Here are my thoughts on what you have asked, to the best of my knowledge, though my personal experience does not include being so close to goal.

Q1: No, you don't need to think about eating more because you are exercising more, etc. On The Plan there are many foods that you eat as much as you want to - like soup, salad, veggies - If days you workout, you FEEL like having more salad, soup, veggies - GO for it. But you don't need to consciously decide to.

Q2: Following the menus exactly is partly developing the habit of eating in a kind of programmed way - developing a new habit. LG has laid out how to set up your own menu; I will have to try to find that for you. Personally, after following her menus so many times, it almost feels second nature even though I am sure there are days I may not have done enough proteins at a meal or somesuch.

Q3: As long as your proteins are in line, I think substituting for the cheeses is just fine. I would try to be alert to any foods that you had every day you stalled, though, in case you can do the mozza one day, but not 3 days in a row...etc.
Avocados are magical - but if you simply can't tolerate them, even mashed up and stirred into your soup! or hidden in an chocolate avocado pudding - be sure that you are getting enough oils/Fats in your day. Make sure you use olive oil dressings on your salads, etc.

Q4: The monotony does seem to kill TP for some people, especially those who have lots of reactive foods!, but there are many sauces and seasoning changes you can make as you power through creating your friendly foods list. The longer you are on TP, the more foods and meals and restaurant meals you can add to your menus. PLUS, one of the true gifts of TP, IMHO, is that when you do have something to relieve the monotony and it fails on the scale - you know just how to reverse it within a couple of days with TP meals!

I hope that helps! There is alot of information in our threads -
(our search engine has not been working well lately, and I have alerted the SP techs about it!!!)

Please come on up to the Daily Check-in and random chatting thread and join us, if you like.
It sounds like you are doing well on TP, from what you have shared.
All the best,
javaFlower

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Welcome AWIL1110!

I wanted to say hi and let you know that I will answer your questions as best I can,
when I can get back online - which may not be until tomorrow afternoon.

If you don't hear from me - private message me (in case I forget - argh)

sorry for the inconvenience...

Q 1: NO

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Hi everyone,
I am on day 10 of the Plan and have been having some success, but also my experience so far has raised a lot of questions not answered in the book. Hoping this forum can help!

First, a little background on myself. I am a 31 year old female, who set out awhile ago to lose those last 5-10 vanity pounds. I ate moderately healthy before, but really didn’t think about it too much, so I ate whatever/whenever I wanted and stayed slim. Then I decided I wanted to tackle those "trouble spots", so I started eating healthier, learning about calories, adding in planned exercise, etc. Well, it has been an uphill, frustrating battle since then because the more exercise I do, and the healthier I eat, the more I seem to gain weight!! It just doesn’t make sense! Finally, I said enough is enough and started looking for possible REASONS why that was the case. Obviously, I was eating too few calories and overexercising, and ate the dreaded oatmeal, salmon, and yogurt VERY often! I came across The Plan and was interested in the science behind it.

Now on to my questions… I sailed through the first 5 or 6 days losing weight (about 4 lbs in 6 days, which is a lot for me), but have now stalled/gained the past few days (even on a friendly day) I know Lyn says that is to be expected with the higher reactive foods, but I am also unsure sometimes whether I actually reacted to a food, or just am reaching my homeostasis?

Question 1: I cut WAY back on my exercise/intensity, but still do exercise about 4x a week. If we are exercising, can/should we add in an additional snack or more calories to our day?

Question 2: She talks a lot about the importance of sticking EXACTLY to the meals laid out in the Plan because it is balanced chemically… but when we are on our own, how do WE know how to continue to plan a chemically balanced meal? Or by that, does she just mean the info in Part 3 about having only one dense carb a day, X amount of protein at each meal, etc?

Question 3: I do not like avocado or manchego/goat cheese. However, those items are present in EVERY day of the plan. I have been leaving them out, or subbing in mozzarella (which I seem to test fine on), but is there anything I can sub for avocado? I feel like by not eating these things, I may be skewing my results/ leaving me hungry!

Question 4: I am getting pretty darn sick of eating the same combination of zucchini, mushrooms, kale and carrots.. How did everyone power through the monotony of it?? It is especially frustrating when then you end up reactive to something and you can’t add it on to your list.

I don’t know, I WANT to continue The Plan, but at the same time, I’m not sure if I’m even doing it right or interpreting my results correctly. Hoping for some insight.

Thanks so much!

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Hi InnerPeace24/7 (that sounds nice!)

Welcome!
Sorry for the delay in welcoming you; I've was called away for a couple of days.

I hope to see you joining us in the Daily Chat thread!...heading there next!

welcome!



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Hi new here. read the book bought the groceries prepping &cooking today. started a journal. tracking on spark(feels good). & excited to begin tomorrow after holiday festivities today!

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Thanks! :)

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Welcome Beth!
life does get in the way a bit sometimes!

Wishing you more success!



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Hi there! I'm Beth, and am new to this board, but not to The Plan.

I have tried the program several times over the past few years, with varying degrees of success. I have had a hard time sticking to The Plan in the past, because I haven't been able to test enough foods, and have been discouraged to see my weight go up on those testing days. Also, the holidays, family events, vacations, etc., tended to pull me off track.

I am ready to try again - I'm already into week one, and am feeling so much better. Looking forward to sharing my experiences with you all - I think it will really help keep me on track when things get discouraging!


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Hi CuleBra78!

I started The Plan when I was 54! it is pretty amazing!

Welcome!!!!
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Hello all! I'm just getting started on the Plan - - - - I'm in the middle of 7 days on the probiotics to prep for the detox days... I'm really looking forward to finally doing something healthy for myself! I'm 54, work too much and am way sedentary when I get home each evening.... and I'm hoping that changing up what I put into my body will help me get some energy so I can be more physically active. emoticon Looking to support others along the way as I get smarter!

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4/16/15 2:04 A

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Hi JAVAFLOWER,

I'll have to look for the Day 4 information. I'll keep that in mind as I get closer to starting. I have to do my shopping first.

I looked that the Sam-e at the store and it looked like it could be good for me, because I have serious arthritis. Anything that gives me relief there is welcome! Arthritis is so horrible. I just wish it wasn't so expensive.

I do get weird sniffles when I eat certain foods, but not all of the time. Maybe I'll hold off for a little on the MSM, unless it's cheap. I used to think I was weird for getting the sniffles when I ate. I guess my body is trying to tell me something.

Thanks so much for the helpful information. It's great to know this team is here in case I have any questions.

-Luvlylorelei

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LL:

The cookbook only has the first three days - the Cleanse Days. LG has put out some workbooks with updated menus for sale; she used to have some updated spring and fall menus on her website for free, but I don't think they are there for free anymore.

You can do just fine with the book!!! though I would suggest some adjustments for Day 4,
if you can't find that info here in our threads, PM me and I can help with that.

I did not do the Sam-e or the MSM until I thought the MSM might help some suspected sinus stuff, but IMHO, those items are for specific issues and I would suggest started and seeing if you need those tweaks later.


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4/15/15 12:57 A

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Thanks for the idea of breaking the prep down like that and for the link. I have to take my temp first in the mornings to find out if I need the thyroid menu, but I haven't done that yet. I keep forgetting to get my thermometer out and put it by my bed. Then I wake up and find myself remembering what I had forgotten the night before. Perhaps since I am writing about this at night, I'll remember this time.

As far as the flax seed granola, it's too bad one can't used milled flax seed because that I already have that. Oh well.

As for the menu beyond the first three days, I guess I will use what's in the book because I don't see anything on the website except a vegetarian option. I like meat -- so whatever I do will definitely involve meat.

Are there other menus beyond what's in the book and the one I just mentioned? Perhaps in the cookbook? I didn't buy the cookbook -- although I suppose if it works out well, maybe I will.

Do you do the Sam-E and the MSM? I noticed that it's $26 dollars regular price for 7 pills of Sam-E. That sounds atrocious to me. I couldn't find MSM -- so I'll have to shop around for that or maybe buy it online. I'll have to check the book again, I'm not sure how often one takes that Sam-E. I should have bought the print version though -- referring to the e-reader version isn't likely to be as quick as flipping through the pages to find what I need. I'll have to place a lot of e-bookmarks I guess or just simply buy the print version too.


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Hey LL -
Here is The Plan Prep for first 3 days but in a power session:
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you might want to take a couple of days to get food ready...
and you can sit and chop, if need be!
-maybe make the carrot soup and freeze it up in 1-2 serving containers one day,
(read the carrot soup thread - add some canned coconut milk to your soup - way better!-creamy!)
-make the flax granola the next day and cut up and cook broccoli, roasted veggies...run carrots and beets through the food processor (I do a bit and store them in the fridge in separate bowls)
-then on Day One you just have to add blueberries and eat your cereal, heat up soup and broccoli for lunch and dinner will be what you have to chop and saute.
-from then on out there will be leftovers for some meals and making fresh for some, but, hopefully not too overwhelming.

and as for milk - you'll have either coconut milk beverage or Rice dream from the beginning,
and creamy canned coconut milk too.

AND start getting your water in - getting used to that while prepping to start is easier than starting it on Day One IMHO

and your tastes will mostly likely change some too!!!! which is kinda cool!

Which menu from what resource were you planning to start with? if I may ask....

Edited by: JAVAFLOWER at: 4/14/2015 (19:05)

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Thank you Chickybee and Javaflower!

I think if I do go ahead with this plan, I will be hanging around here a bit at least until I can get my bearings -- even after watching a bunch of YouTube videos of someone following the plan, I'm still a little overwhelmed. It may be because I have a hard time standing, walking and such, so cooking is not so easy for me at the present time. If it works, it will be worth it, but right now, I get stressed out about making scrambled eggs.

I know this plan does make sense for me regardless of my difficulty cooking because I "poof up" like a giant puff ball when I eat certain foods. My digestive track hates me some days. My fingers swell on some days and not on others. My feet are almost always swollen. My leg got so swollen it sprouted a leak -- leaky edema. That stopped, but amazingly enough, one leg shrunk dramatically after that. The other one stayed "poofy." Now they are both back to about the same size I think.

I have severe arthritis. I'm hoping this will help with that because I it would be nice to walk easily again. My skin cleared up once when I tried going organic for a while. That's when I shopped at a store out of state that had a lot more organic food than I can get at my current store. They are getting more organic foods, but have a ways to go in my opinion.

I'm almost afraid to find out what my reactive foods are because I suspect there are a lot of them. That will also mean maybe I have to give up the dairy I eat because I already know I am lactose intolerant and have kept eating dairy because it's my favorite food -- anything dairy really -- except ricotta. I don't understand ricotta. I suppose if I got used to it, but I generally avoid it at all costs. ...

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4/13/15 9:46 A

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Luv your username LuvlyLorelei!
WELCOME!

The Plan can be alot of work, especially the first prep work to get started...but after that, there starts to be a flow to it - you make broccoli and you have it available to just heat up this week, you make a double batch of soup and freeze up 1 or 2 serving size containers so you can just pull them out at the ready, etc.

As far as keeping track and figuring out data - food tracking on SP can do alot of the work for you, but I highly recommend you keep a text edit list of what you eat, because, unless something has changed on SP, the food tracking on SP does not allow searching and when I can't remember after 2+ years if I reacted that time I tried coconut shrimp - I want to be able to easily search it and see what my notes are and a text edit page on my computer works really well for that.

Come on up to the Daily Chat thread - WELCOME!


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4/13/15 2:07 A

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Welcome LUVLYLORELEI - emoticon I am fairly new to The Plan, but I would like to say to someone starting or thinking of starting... don't be intimidated! Everyone is different, and everyone has different reactive foods. I have found that despite the challenge of discovering exactly what foods cause a reaction in your body, you will discover that you will immediately experience a response that you can see and feel. Although I am one who believes I fall into a highly reactive category, I would never tell another that they would have the same response I do. The help on this team is fantastic, and I have restarted this plan a few times, and am positive this time that it addresses exactly my problem - food reactivities. I am determined to stick it out this time because I have discovered outside The Plan, all I do is gain weight, even eating right and light.

And although I have started The Plan a couple of times before, this is the first time I have been able to do it within a SparkTeam. Good luck with your journey, and should you decide to try The Plan, we will be here for you.

ChickyBee

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Hi! I'm a Sparker that's been around a while, but was absent and am returning again. I am considering doing "The Plan" but I have to admit I'm a little intimidated by it. I'm curious what it was like for others starting up and doing "The Plan." It sounds like a lot of work. If that's so, does that ever lighten up any?

Anyway, I look forward to checking out this community and "The Plan" to see if this is something that may work out for me.

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Welcome ChickyBee!!!!

hoping the best for you this go-round!!!!!


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Hello. I am new to this team, but not new to The Plan. This is the 5th day of the 4th time I have begun this testing routine. I have had a difficult time in the past, as I continually have reactions to foods in the first 3-4 days. I end up having only 1 or 2 menus I can eat for too many days, and I tire of it. This time, some of my reactive foods have been identified, and I am hopeful to get through the whole 20 days. Already, I am really on my 7th day of working The Plan, but am just now on Day 5 of the testing diet. I have had to go back, and repeat Day 1 or 2 twice already. I am learning to be careful of every single ingredient, including spices, and am trying to add new items to test only one at a time. My first reactive day originally was when I added Spicy Vegetarian Soup. It was chock full of new items, and took multiple start-overs to test that soup. So, here I am again... trying to be more cautious and determined to finish because I really, really need to identify my reactive foods. I am positive of the effects of them on my weight. I am hoping that the extra support of a team will help me complete this 4th try. I am excited. Thanks for being here.

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