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You don't loose 24 pounds of "water", even when you are fully carb loaded that is only about 5 pounds of water. We might add another 3 or 4, but honestly a good 15 to 18 or 20 is body fat!

Great going!

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10/9/17 3:16 P

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I am 55 and was diagnosed in August. I have lost 24 lbs. through diet and exercise. I know a lot of the weight loss was probably water and that the loss will slow down significantly. I don't want to let that discourage me. I have started exercising again (swimming and hiking.) I get much more tired than I did the last time I was exercising regularly, which was 8-9 years ago. I am pleased to be in good enough shape to be able to do it, however slowly, though. When I started exercising at the end of August, I was in such poor shape that I couldn't even swim a lap! That broke my heart, as I was a competitive swimmer through college and for many years as a younger adult swam 4-5 days a week. When I started back, since I couldn't swim yet, I jogged in the pool and even though I was in water to my neck, I was still sweating! I hope I never let my endurance get that low ever again!

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8/4/17 1:48 A

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YSEAULT,
My impression is that one's body wants to lower blood sugar by getting that out of the blood, and into fat cells with the help on insulin.

At some point the fat cells just get so full that if is harder to get more in.

The options are to take medication to make insulin more effective, which makes looking weight harder, to exercise off some carbs, or eat fewer carbs, or some combination of those.

In my opinion eating fewer carbs is the most effective method.

I'm here every day, or almost every day.

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HI! I am 46 years old and I was just diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes and started on metformin which is making me sick right now. I am trying to eat very low carb but with a sick stomach and stomach cramps, I am taking in some carbs. The doc says the side effects shall pass and then hopefully I can get rid of the rest of the carbs.

My maternal grandmother, my father and 2 of 3 sisters all had diabetes. Nonetheless, I am feeling like I caused this by being overweight. :( I am trying not to feel to sorry for myself.... So I am glad to find this board.

My goals are to increase exercise to at least 5 days a week and to lose 80 lbs which will put my BMI solidly in the normal range.



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ELJAMISON (Erica), hi.

It's depressing to get that diagnosis. Why me? What about all those others who don't have diabetes, why can't I be one of them? Maybe it is a mistake, maybe a one time bad blood test...

However, take control. Keeping blood sugar in a normal range is mostly what you eat. As a type-2 diabetic I stopped 14 years of medication, and managed to control my blood sugar with food choices only for 6 years, and I was at the maximum dose of oral medication after 12 years, so that just shows you how much control you have with food.

Yes it means eating differently. I'm here everyday. Hope I can help guide you.

- James

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Hi, I'm Erica and I was diagnosed last week. I did have gestational diabetes in 2002. My numbers right now are horrible, but I am ready to make some more changes to my lifestyle. I look forward to getting to know all of you more! emoticon

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6/14/17 8:36 A

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MONTHURS,
calories are not all equal. Yes calories matter for weight loss, and in that sense they can all be used for energy, but the body is so much more than a furnace just burning fuel.

So you need some protein for muscle and lean mass. Your body will burn excess dietary protein for fuel, but unto about 60 grams is needed for parts maintenance. Your body needs some fats, not just fuel again, but lubrication.

Carbohydrates? Pure fuel to burn, not required. If you want to loose weight this is the place to cut. So your husband not drinking sugar filled drinks, ... exactly.

I think of sugar as "pure evil". OK, not quite that bad, but totally useless and bad for me. As I've mentioned sugar is 100% carbs, so the closer something is to that, the more its the same as eating sugar. So I take the weight of carbs in a serving size, divide by the serving size, and figure out the fraction or percentage of its weight that is carbs. Bread for example is about 50% on that calculation. So half as bad as pure sugar.



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emoticon I am joining this team b/c my husband has gotten 2 separate pre-D glucose readings (entirely diff DRs & years); the most recent blood glucose numbers are just a few higher than pre-D...so, have tipped the scale over into the diabetes category. This happened just a week ago. So far, he's quit pop (cold turkey) & we're both being diligent about keeping within our SP calorie counts.

I admit that after reading many of the posts concerning all the details of what one should eat & avoid, I see that its a whole lot more complicated than just counting calories.

We're sincerely hoping to reverse his pre-D diagnosis, just with his weight loss (to come within the next months.)

He has another DR appt scheduled in a couple months. We're hoping that the numbers will show enough improvement, that he won't require meds. Numbers on the scale are gradually going down. I KNOW the choice of no more pop was the best choice he could make. He's now drinking water, and LaCroix sparkling waters. I cringe when I see him drink OJ, but, figure that that will work itself out as we arm ourselves with more info.

Looking forward to getting to know y'all & for the help & encouragement. TIA


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Welcome Larry,

I was on medication for 14 years. I had no idea just how critical food is to blood sugar. I just accepted that my body was not working right, and accepted that medication was the only answer...

After starting a diet to loose weight, which just happened to be a low carb diet by chance, I found my blood sugar to be under control without medication. That started a life long journey for me. I've never eaten the same since that discovery, and its not all denial and misery.

I eat prime rib, and bacon, and any meat really. I eat plenty of healthy veggies, and cheese and loads of stuff. I just don't eat colourless unnatural things, like bread, pasta, rice, sugar.... Yes you could say, what, no bread, or similar, but my health is worth a few restrictions.

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Hello...my name is Larry. I was diagnosed as being diabetic today. I am a diet controlled diabetic. I started to lose weight last month and have lost 14 pounds. I am fighting other problems ...high blood pressure, high cholesterol, and weight. So I have been on track for about a month....eating right and losing weight. Just gotta keep it up. No meds for now,

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Hello, my name is Janet and my daughter was recently diagnosed with Type 1. She has actually dropped some healthy foods she used to eat, like avocados, because she doesn't want the extra work of having to figure the carbs out. Looking to connect with other parents of Type 1 diabetic children.

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Hi all. I am 62 years old, had a heart attack 3 years ago and have just been diagnosed with Type 2 this week. I am WAY overweight, and though I am somewhat familiar with diabetes, the whole eating thing is a little overwhelming. I couldn't get an appointment with the diabetes educator until April 6 so I've been all OVER the ADA website. Doc is holding off on meds since he thinks I am early on, will do labs again in 3 months and I'm trying to juggle exercise with the whole starch thing. It seems half of what I've eaten for YEARS is some sort of starch, lol. I have read that timing and regularity of meals makes a difference so am working on getting that down and getting in some exercise daily. No matter what you think you know about the disease, it's a little overwhelming at first. The whole lifestyle needs to be overhauled and I sure look forward to the support of this group.

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MORSEY2,

You know, your whole set of issues kinda goes together. Look at my weight ticker. I used to be about 50 pounds heavier than I am now. Type-2 diabetes, ignored for a few years, then on medication for 12. I have hypothyroid.

Anyway, with all of those similarities, I'm here to tell you that you can take control. That you can eat healthier if you just know what to eat. I'm here to help guide you, I love helping.

Post some more and so will I.

But as a first crack, I'll tell you the obvious. Cut the high sugar and high carb stuff. So none of this:
- soft drinks with sugar
- rice
- potatoes
- sugar
- pasta

Any carb is essentially the same as sugar as fat as blood sugar goes, even if it doesn't taste sweet.

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Welcome Morsey! Don't be afraid to ask questions. I've learned that someone here has usually walked the same path as me so I can learn from them.

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Hello, I am a newly told I have type 2, altho they have told me for 2 years I might be or it was caused by the many medicines they have pumped into me. High BP, high cholesterol, screwed up thyroid, and of course over weight. I am new to Sparkpeople, had a page from a few years ago when my daughter told me about it, but didn't go on much, now I am the heaviest Ive ever been, time to get going and stop denying!!!!! Part of my problem is staying motivated and working too many hours in retail where I cant do my water and small meals!!! But heck with it, I am going to find a way!!!
Im a 63 yr old female, mom to 3 and grand mom to 3 and I want to be around to see them grow up!! Have a new endo doc going to this Oct., the one I was with never said to watch numbers, in fact all the doctors, tell me I am, gave me a reader, sent me home that was it. So today is the day I figure it all out on my own with the help of this blog page!! Just have to get on the computer more and hook this up to my phone. And tell hubby time for a change in eat habits too. Im not a terrible eater, just the wrong times and too much on my plate. Downfall I have veggies!!! OK off to the foot doctor, yes, foot pain today has also scared the bejesus out of me, so time for a change. Be back later, thanks for being here.

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Ten things about me:
- diagnosed with type-2 diabetes 17 years ago
- ignored the diagnosis for 2.years and cut back on sugar anyways
- my metformin dose went up for 13 years, to the maximum
- my last 5 years are drug free, but eating low carb
- I like dogs
- I have a daughter born in France, and one in Germany
- my wife is German
- I am Canadian
- I have a Ph.D. in Physics
- I love the science of nutrition and biochemistry

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MOMLYN,
You take care of your daughter. I've got no advice for type-1 diabetes, which is no insulin. That is a balancing act between carbohydrates (sugar being just one of those) and insulin.

Type-1 diabetics produce no insulin, so external insulin is required,mand it is a balancing act.
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For type-2 diabetes, and pre-diabetes, I have plenty of advice. Don't just take pills as a management. Food choices are huge. My advice is to read labels and always make lower carbohydrate choices. All carbs will raise blood sugar. Insulin will try to lower it, but sometimes not enough. So avoid high blood sugar in the first place.

I read all labels when shopping, I divide the amount of carbs in a serving by the portion size to calculate the percentage of weight that is carbs.

Fibre is technically (memo a molecular structure) point of view, is a carbohydrate.

However few animals can digest it. Termites can, which is why they can eat wood, for humans though, we can't. For the above scientific reasons they are listed as a subcategory on nutrition labels, but subtract them out from total carbs to get the digestible, or net carb count.

Here is a label:


So 28 grams of this has 6 grams of carbs, so about 21% of its weight. But when you forget the 4 grams of fibre, 6-4 is 2 grams of net, or digestible carbs. One of those 2 is sugar, the other is something else. Labels don't always give a full breakdown of the total carbs.

But 2 of 28 is 7% of the weight as net carbs, which happens to be my personal cutoff. Above 7% and I don't eat it, and hopefully not buy it.

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My 13 year old daughter just nearly died from Type 1 that we didn't know she had. It was horrible. Her blood sugar was 677 and pH was 6.8 a1c was off the charts, too. We had planned to be on vacation this week and I had already purchased a couple diabetes books to read during the trip. I was diagnosed pre-diabetic a few months ago. My Dr. said "here's some pills, they'll take care of it." That was IT, no advice, no info, nothing. So I knew I needed to learn more. Then, I stopped home on my lunch hour to find my daughter had turned gray, her skin was sunken and leathery, eyes sunk in and rolling in different directions like a chameleon, and she was panting. Even then, she insisted she felt fine. Due to the holiday, a lot of the people we should have spoken with before leaving the hospital are on vacation. My daughter's personality is very different and a lot of her developmental delays seem gone. She went form about a 6 year old level to a 10 year old level. But her vision is blurry and she is ravenous all the time. Eventually, I'll get back to learning about type 2 and pre-diabetes, for now, I'm focusing on keeping her alive.



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Hi! I am so thankful
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I have not felt well for about 4 weeks.....had blood test sugar was 565.....I was not a diagnosed diabetic.....never.....so after 3 days in the hospital......I am pretty much in shock that I am a Type 1 diabetic...and pretty clueless! Got the basic training the hospital...but SO MUCH MORE TO LEARN.

Looking forward to reading posts and being a member of this team! I am a retired school teacher-Mom to twin 36 year old guys. Great hubby of 40 years! Live in Washington State on the peninsula. Like to read and quilt.

Any and all advice and suggestions are sooooooooooooooo welcome!



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Thanks James. I REALLY need help with the food because there's so many good things that I like that I send my sugar through the roof (Simply Lemonade, chocolate, potatoes, and fruit). I'm still trying to figure out how do you eat half of a banana! emoticon I've had a couple of bad run-ins with watermelon and I had a granny smith apple take me down! So ANY advice you have would be well received.

Oh and please, call me Loren. emoticon

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MRSLATHAM1,

Even if this is often a quiet team, I watch it like a hawk. I check it everyday.

So, like you, I too was in denial for about a year. But a couple of high blood sugar tests finally forced me to reluctantly face the truth.

I hate needles too. By the way, if you prick your finger on the side, say half way between your finger tip and your finger nail, it hurts less. There are fewer nerve endings there, plus the side of a finger is more out of the way for regular life, like picking up a drinking glass. That way the small prick heals easier on the side too.

If you only test once in a day then after you wake up, but before eating or drinking anything is the best time.

I have plenty of advice on what to eat. Just return and I'll guide you.

- James


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Hello. I finally got the courage up to face my demons and accept that I am a diabetic, and that I should join the team. I've been diagnosed since late December 2015 and I still have food struggles. I work full time and I usually take two college courses a semester so depending on the course load, workouts can be impossible and non-existing. In contrast, I am very good about taking my meds (Metformin 500mg, twice a day), and even though I HATE needles, I'm even better about checking my levels; so good in fact that my diabetes coach suggested that instead of testing twice a day everyday, that I test once in the morning one day and the next day test at night after dinner. Did I say that I HATE NEEDLES?? emoticon

Anyhoo, what made me finally join the team was an email I got about an 8 week challenge and I love a challenge! Well, actually I like anything that is going to help me get on track with my diet and exercise regimen... emoticon Also, I would like someone who can help me when I'm down about my numbers and meals being out of whack. My husband tries really hard but it's not the same when he's eating anything he wants... emoticon In closing, I'm looking forward to being a part of the team. emoticon

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Oh yes, and if you decide to test yourself, of course wash your hands first, let completely dry, and prick yourself just off the side of a finger tip, not right in the middle of a finger tip. It hurts less (just a few less nerve endings there), and the side of the finger tip has less"traffic", it is less touched as you do regular things in life.

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If you have a prescription, and health care coverage, then some of the expense of the meter, lancettes, and test strips is covered.

If you don't have that, I'm pretty sure you can buy it yourself. The meters seem to run around $40, and the lancettes are cheap, but where I am each test strip is around $1.

When I test myself, and it isn't often these days, it is first thing in the morning when I wake up. That gives you a good indication about overall general levels. My body is such that if I eat too many carbs one day, it is still high in the morning, about 12 or more hours later. Then of course I resolve to eat fewer carbs, which I do, and the next morning it is yet better.

Another thing to do is to test after a meal, say just to see if rice is bad for you (it is). But do a test before the meal. That way you know what it was before eating, and can see just how much the meal impacted your blood sugar. I mean if you ate toast with jam for breakfast, then had a chocolate bar at morning break, then had lunch of an egg omelette, and then measured your blood sugar after lunch, it would be really wrong to blame the eggs.

So test just before a meal. But then how long afterwards a meal? Apparently if you are not a diabetic your blood sugar peaks around 45 minutes after eating, but for a diabetic it is peaks higher and later, so about 90 minutes after eating. If you missed the peak at 90 minutes,Mel all the better, it means you are closer to normal. On the other hand if it is still high, then you probably need to figure out what did that and change your eating habits.

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Basically you are looking for morning fasting numbers, which is a good overall indication of things, then you are loin to see how high a meal drives your blood sugar, and if you can afford the strips, how quickly it comes down. The closes time between subsequent measurements, to see how blood sugar comes down is about 1 hour.

For a non-diabetic, everything settles down to pre-meal values in about 2 hours. Not for me though. I settle down after about 20 hours.

I my case I rate foods by the percentage of their weight that is carbs. I can spot the culprit pretty easy that way. Bread is about 50% carbs, sugar is 100%.

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I don't. The doctor didn't tell me I needed to test. I was thinking about getting some anyways, but wasn't sure if I needed a prescription for insurance or if I should just go buy one.

How often and when does one test? And what would I be looking for?

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ZOEWMU,

Do you have the test strips and all that to measure your blood sugar at home?

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If you cut carbs and take your medication your blood sugar could get too low, so careful there. But you will feel it if your blood sugar gets too low.

Weak, dizzy, perhaps even sweaty. If that happens, eat some carbs to bring your blood sugar back up.

But in general fewer carbs and more fat, that will both lower your blood sugar and help with weight loss. One way to reduce carb intake is to count and watch grams of carbs, say 40 or 50 grams of carbs a day. But these days I just choose low carb things. I read labels. If it has more than 6% of its weight as carbs I just don't buy or eat it. A few exceptions, but then I'm super careful with quantity. Like one square of very dark chocolate, like 85% cocoa, not 3 or 4 squares.

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Thank you so much for the information. When I did low carb before, I was trying to lose weight. I didn't count calories; I only counted carbs. I also used artificial sugar, which I am not doing this time around. I love fat....the fatty part of a steak, butter, cream. What I don't like is eggs unless they are hard boiled.

I'm going to get there. I just need to figure out what to do. If I'm doing low carb, do I need to take my blood sugar? Can I take the medicine and low carb or is that a bad plan?






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Ok, I found it. A Big Mac, medium fries, medium Coke has 151 grams of carbs.
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Times 4 for calories in the carbs, 604.

If you walk at a normal pace probably two hours of walking.
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If you actually wanted to burn all the calories in that meal, then about 4 hours of walking.

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So stuck between a rock and a number of hard places. I myself have eaten low carb for 5 years to manage my blood sugar. But I also eat quite a bit of fat. So I eat all sorts of meat, fatty or not, and cheese, eggs, whipping cream in my coffee, you name it. So I'm not hungry all the time, no.

I'm guessing that your previous venture into low carb was also low calorie, with a focus on weight loss rather than blood sugar management. Am I right?

You can ask "why me?", you can be in denial like I was for a few years. But in the long run it is better to take control, and sadly make some dietary changes. I know you probably don't want to hear that. I myself was on metformin for 12 years with some bad long term, permanent side effects. So I really dislike that stuff. I'm always annoyed with the diabetes adds on TV, they alway have the line "when diet and exercise aren't enough, take ..." The truth is diet makes a huge difference.




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Good morning, and now I've got some coffee in me.

So there are a few angles to this. Here are the macro nutrients and their impact on blood sugar:

- dietary fat has no impact on blood sugar
- protein, up to about 70 grams a day has no impact and is used to maintain muscles and organs
- carbohydrates up to about 30 grams a day are used by part of the brain, but after that raise blood sugar

Your body needs some dietary fat, about 60 grams a day as a minimum. How high you go is really whether you want to loose weight, whether you want to eat more nice things, whether your spdigestion can handle it. But a lot of flexibility on dietary fat.

Your body needs protein, like about 70 grams a day. Meat is typically about 30% protein, so roughly triple this to say 250 grams of meat, about half a pound.

So let's say you want to eat more than 30 or 40 grams of carbs a day and don't want your blood sugar to go up. You have a few options:
- exercise it off
- take metformin

Metformin makes existing insulin more effective. Insulin helps get carbohydrates (blood sugar) out of the blood, and into cells. Both lean cells and fat cells. So, though I've read about metformin helping with weight loss, I can't for the life of me understand why, insulin has the nickname of "fat storage hormone".

Alternately you can exercise carbs off. Let's look at a Big Mac, medium fries and a medium Coke, how many grams of carbs it has, and how long you have to walk to burn just the carbs in that.



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ZOEWMU,

I'm exhausted at the end of my day, and time for bed. But I will be back and post more tomorrow.

For now I will just try to answer the why now question. Type-2 diabetes is a sliding scale. It isn't like you've got it or you don't. In reality ones ability to manage carbs and blood sugar slowly degrades, and one day when you cross an arbitrary line in the blood sugar "sand" they say you have type-2 diabetes.

Excess body fat also is a factor. Your body tries to store excess carbs away, out of the blood sugar, and into body fat. Sort of like nuclear waste in a salt mine. But again, at some point insulin finds it harder and harder to do this.

Oh, I wrote more than I thought I would. I'll be back with some advice. Bye for now.

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Hi! My name is Susan. I'm a 48 year old woman from Michigan. I was diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes about 3 weeks ago. A week before that, I was diagnosed with high blood pressure.

I was on sparkpeople last year and lost about 25 pounds. Then, all of a sudden it seemed like, my motivation was just gone. I would start out with great intentions and then, by evening, if it wasn't nailed down I was eating it. I didn't realize at the time that an increased appetite is a sign of diabetes. Neither did my doctors because I told them what was going on and they all treated me like I had a moral failing or a character flaw, not a symptom of a problem.

I'm on metformin now. I still struggle with hunger after dinner, but not nearly as bad as before. My doctor didn't tell me to get a meter or check my blood sugar. He didn't do an a1c. He didn't tell me to follow a diet. He just told me to take the pills and come back in 3 months. (time to get a new doctor). So, I know nothing. I do go to the specialist in 2 weeks because I also have fatty liver disease. I'm going to set up an appointment with an endocrinologist too, I think. I would like to know why this is happening to me. No one in my family has diabetes, not even my parents or grandparents. No one has liver disease. It's weird.

For now, I'm following a sensible calorie diet. I try to eat an apple and some walnuts every day and lots of veggies. I'm thinking I'll end up on low carb, but I'm just not ready to commit fully to that right now. I've done it in the past, and it's hard to do long term. I do try to low carb dinner, just because I'm used to eating that way. I'm trying to avoid sugar both regular and artificial. So I'm drinking lots of water and tea.

I'm not sure if what I'm doing is right because I really don't know what to do. Any guidance would be helpful.

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FIDDLER4JESUS,

yup, my denial lasted for about a year and a half. If I just ate a little better, didn't have ice-cream day before the blood test ...

Well, it was a lot more than that. Get your blood sugar under control. It is a very slow sort of rusting from the inside. Not your catastrophic injury that you see the difference from one moment to the next. No, so slow that it is imperceptible, but over time it adds up.

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Hi everyone! I am new,, hope to accomplish the right way to eat before I see my doctor again on June 10th. He is just a medical doctor. But, he informed me that I needed to start the medication because of my blood work. My blood sugar was 132, too high,as he said. And, it runs in my family. I have been borderline for many years and have had plenty of warnings. So, here I start and am really glad I found this team. I do look on the internet at American Diabetic Assoc. for recipes. Thank you for any help you can give me!



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Hi to all and hope you have a good day.
Tues is weigh in day for me. I'm down 2.5 this week.
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I totally agree with Susie.

The old saying is "you can't exercise away a bad diet". In the case of type-2 diabetes, any carbs raise blood sugar and contribute to a bad diet. So exercise for fitness, or because you like it. I do.

Get yourself a digital scale, make it a numbers game.

Carb counting works great. Absolutely investigate the nutrition of what you eat. I have a digital scale at home, with a zero out feature, so in this case I can weigh the cheese on the plate without the weight of the plate.

I ate breakfast of 30 grams of cheese on one egg:







Yah, I know that the scale should say 74 grams, but freakishly close, maybe the egg was 2 grams short of 44?

Cheese and egg (180 calories)
Carbs (0 g)
Fat (14.5 g)
Protein (12g)

So still 30 g of carbs for the rest of my day. If I eat 30 grams a day or less, then my blood sugar is under control drug free.

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Hi Artsky,
As James said, take extra B12
You might want to follow a ketogenic diet, and follow it as close as you can. I rid my house of processed foods, beans, rice, bread and other starchy foods, sugar, any sweets, even high sugar fruits.
Ketogenic is like counting calories, you count your carbs. I suggest you read Jimmy Moore's Keto Clarity book. listen to his podcasts. Please explore this this group and saturate yourself with keto knowledge.
It has been proven to be the best for type II diabetics.


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Hi I have just been dianossed with type 2. I've been heading that way for a few years. I', 70+ and can not walk well. I do lead an arthritis swim class 5 days a week. Thats my best exercise.
Onice and a while I 'll walk a short way. Most days I put from 2000 to 4000 steps. I know not much but the best I can do.
I'm on Metform also. I didn't know about the forgetfulness. Thats nnot good for me. I' already forgetful.
I'll try this team and see if we can help each other.
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I can't really tell you what to do.

I however was on metformin for 12 years, due to low vitamin B12, a possible side effect of taking taking Metformin my memory is irreversibly damaged and I'm n long term disability due to that. (Just google metformin and B12 together). Needless to say I was p*ssesd and depressed for a while.

So if you take metformin be sure to take extra B12 to counteract that. It is a very gradual decline in memory.

So that is one path.

The other path is to change what you eat. I am now free of diabetes drugs, and have been for the last 4 years. No more remembering to take my pills, which quite frankly by the end of my first 12 years I was forgetting 1 or 2 days out of the week.

So now I have chosen to eat healthier, no sugar, few candies, just a little dark chocolate. No rice, pasta, potatoes. Low carb stuff only. Yup life is different, life is healthier.

Now it is your choice.

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My A1c was 6.7 and I started eating cleaner fresh produce. No caffeine, no dairy, very little meat. Some coconut oil, cold pressed evoo and avocado. I stay clear of sugar alcohols too. Also did not eat less than 3 hours before bedtime.
It's 2 months later and now my A1c is 5.7

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Well, hello all. My doctor called today and said my A1C is 6.6. My question...is that number truly considered Diabetes? She has prescribed Metformin but I'm not sure I want to start that. The A1C was done as a result of having high blood sugar results more than three times over the last year. She told me three months ago to watch the sweets but obviously I didn't do that well. And, so, here I am. I guess I am just wondering if I can correct this without medication at this point? Just don't know whether to start the Metformin or not.

P.S. My daughter has Type 2 and is insulin dependent and my son is on the diabetic diet but for other health reasons. So, I have a good grasp on the diabetic diet and carb counting yet I still find myself in this situation.
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look at www.fattoskinny.net , It shows some great meal plans with 20 net carbs a day.

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Susie,

That doesn't make sense to me too. 20 grams a day is quite low, in fact very hard to get lower because lots of healthy vegetables have a few grams here and there.

I wish I could provide some suggestions. But it puzzles me too.

Only one idea. How many grams of protein do you eat in a day? One's body typically needs about 60 grams a day to maintain lean tissue, like muscles. More than that will turn into glucose via gluconeogenesis. In other words more is not better. Easy to get too much protein if you drink protein powder shakes. Just a thought... Maybe?

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Hello, I'm Susie. I lost over 90 lbs slowly on low carb(20 carbs/day), fresh healthy foods. Now my doctor says I am diabetic. A1c at 6.7. This does not make sense since I been low carb for years. Now I have cut out most dairy, sugar-alcohols, caffeine.

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I don't know! I 've not been in the habit of counting them. As yet, I haven't been told to llimit anything except sugary things (which I avoid anyway, as I don't have a sweet tooth), and eat a healthy balanced diet! 'Try and lose some weight' they said - as if that was a novel idea. (it isn't!).
I'm waiting to see a diabetic nurse next week, but I've also booked an appointment to find out about gastric balloons and weight loss surgery. I'm seriously thinking of going down this route, which I gather can 'turn off' the diabetes.



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Watching you carbs ... excellent. How many carbs, or rather grams of carbs, do you eat in a day?

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Hi,
I have just been diagnosed with type 2 diabetes, which is obviously not welcome. I'd gone to the doctor having had 5 months of one virus after another - really bad colds mainly. I'd put on weight - mainly because I'd not felt well enough to exercise (which I enjoy), but couldn't lose it and felt pretty rubbish.
About 10 years before I'd been diagnosed with Grave's disease (overactive theyroid) and had to take medication for about 2 years. I thought maybe my thyroid had become underactive but apparently my thyroid is fine - not so my glucose levels.
I had 2 lots of blood tests 6 weeks apart and by the time I had the second lot it appears I had developed fully blown diabetes, which is strange because I feel so much better now that I've got over the virus I had in January.
I'm waiting to see a Diabetes nurse specialist and have just been told to lose weight if I can. I'm trying, but the think is, I have a pretty healthy diet (I think) and love swimming, cycling, tennis and walking. I don't like sweet things so I don't eat them. I also watch my carbs and everything else and know I don't eat more than I'm meant to (about 1200-1400 a day on my diet). I'm feeling very unsure about what to do for the best.
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IAMSUNNYHOWARD,

Those percentages for fat, carbs and protein, are those percentages of the calories in a day?

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IAMSUNNYHOWARD,

Steroids (prednisone) was likely a big factor in my developing type-2 diabetes. Although I had problems that seemed to need steroids, if I could do it all again I would have left my body heal itself and never have taken the steroids.

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My name is Sunny. I live in Mesa, AZ. I am 66, retired and today my Endocrinologist put me on Metformin, and told me I have Type 2 diabetes. I have many appointments in the next 2 weeks, and in the back of my mind, I am thinking, no it is something else that is causing this.

Tomorrow I meet with a nurse for training on how to read and interpret my glucose readings.Oh boy. I was recently diagnosed with parathyroid disease and will be discussing surgical options soon. I have scans this week on the parathyroids.

I have another test to see if my adrenal glands are OK, because if they are producing too much cortisol, that could be why my A1C was so high.

I know I feel like I am falling apart. I started Sparking in earnest in September 2015. In October 2015 I quit smoking and am still smoke free. I saw a dietician at the hospital and she gave me a food prescription. In a nutshell is it 18% protein, 25% percent fats, and 57% carbs. I am comfortable with that amount. I will see her mid-March. I completed the 1st Spark Coach program and really felt that I had this! I am not feeling that way at the moment!

I am trying to maintain a positive attitude, although am thinking at this moment, what is the point. Every step I have taken to improve my health feels like a step backwards.

Anyway, I am here to learn about diabetes. Adjust my 'tude, and hopefully get back into a supportive role for my fellow Sparkers.

I realize God doesn't give us more than we can handle, but right now I am feeling a bit overwhelmed.

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Amber (WOODSPRITE63),

T2 diabetes is a line in the sand of ones ability to handle carbs and keep one's blood sugar under control. So "full blown" is just crossing that arbitrary line. That said, it is still an indication that something needs to change.

You had a cortisone shot, I took prednisone, but both are steroids, and both seem to either cause or expose ones blood sugar issues.

I agree with your instincts on carbs per day, the lower the better. At around 30 per day, if you can get there from a practical point of view, you should be in great shape, not 30 per meal.

At 100 in a day my blood sugar is out of control, and if persists being high until the next morning. So they are right, the morning is a key time to measure. That said, if you want to measure at other times (before a meal, 90 minutes after a meal ...) then as long as you don't mind the pokes, or the cost of the test strips, go ahead. All information is good to have.

I personally rate foods by the percentage of their weight that is carbs, and higher ones, well I just don't eat them.

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Hi all! My name is Lisa. I'm 52, a web developer for university. A week ago I was diagnosed with T2 diabetes and hypertension. I started Metformin this Monday, and am supposed to start Lysiniprol next Monday.

Ever since having gestational diabetes 16 years ago, I've tried to balance proteins and carbs, so I think the rise in BS was stealthy. I was warned that I would probably develop full blown T2 in the future considering my family history and my own health history. Didn't notice anything until I had a cortisone shot in my shoulder in October and ended up peeing for a week and a half. Don't know if that would have still been in my system enough to have skewed my A1C higher or not or if I'm really sitting at 8.4. I definitely don't want another shot unless I have to have it. I am supposed to go in for shoulder surgery for a torn tendon 1/29, but the diabetes and hypertension diagnosis may cause a reschedule (I hope not a total cancellation). I'm not quite eligible for retirement yet and who knows, I might want to be a trapeze artist when I reinvent myself into Lisa v2.0!

Eighteen months ago I started doing a walking program at work (10K steps/day) and did low carb. That brought me down 27 lbs and I've dropped another 4-5 lbs since the last visit to my docs on 12/19. I went to the nutritionist today and was surprised how many carbs she wants me to aim for. I'm actually a bit uncomfortable with it - 30 at every meal and 15 at each snack. Another thing I was told was that I only need to test my BS in the AM. I'm testing more often because I want to know how certain foods/exercise affect it. I may back off later. Fasting runs between 144 and 166. My best (which was before lunch) was 128.

I have lots of reading and lots of learning to do! I do like to cook and have a family who is pretty tolerant of new foods and recipes I try. I ordered 2 of the Amer. Diabetes Cookbooks, so we'll see what I can come up with!

Glad to be part of a group where I can ask questions and learn as I go!

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Hi all, my name is Patty. I was officially diagnosed with Type 2 in August...but I knew it for quite awhile before it was official. I'm having a tough time balancing the right things to eat...but I'm working on it. I do very well for several days in a row then just don't pay close attention. Same thing with my meds...I often miss 2 days in a row after a couple of weeks of remembering every day. Next then I feel crappy..groggy, irritable. OOPS! time to get it together again! And so it goes. I hope checking in with this group will help keep me on the straight and narrow. Another step in the right direction. Thanks in advance for keeping an eye on me.

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CROUCHINGFLEA,

I know that overwhelmed feeling from 15 years ago.

Here is how I motivate myself to eat right. Let's say I used to eat a peanutbutter and jam sandwich for lunch. Everyone knows that a diabetic, or someone with blood sugar issues shouldn't eat pure sugar by the spoonful.

Pure sugar is 100% carbohydrates, so logic dictates that carbohydrates are what is bad for blood sugar. What if you eat something that is essentially half sugar. How much "better" would that be than eating pure sugar? Again, logic would dictate that while better, that this still wouldn't help a whole lot.

So let me look at that sandwich, and what fraction (percentage) of each constituent is carbodydrates, and is therefore about the same as sugar:
- bread (48%)
- butter (0%)
- jam (65%)
- peanut butter (14%)

Yikes! So I look at the carb percentage of everything, read labels, etc.

As for your veggies, virtually all of them are great. I love zucchini, just cleaned, sliced, and I dip it in ranch dressing.
- zucchini (2%)
- ranch dressing (6%)

For myself 6% s my "typical" cutoff.

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Starting weight : 195.0 pounds (June 7, 2012)
Final weight : 168.2 pounds (July 23, 2013)


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1/9/16 8:01 P

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Hi, I was just diagnosed with type 2 diabetes, and am just like you just described James, just barely above the line considered diabetic. I'm not on any medication, the doctor wants to try diet and exercise first and really wants me to lose weight. I agree, I don't want to be on medication unless I have to. Right now I'm only checking my glucose first thing in the morning and if I get feeling bad. I have been working on trying to change my diet since the diagnosis first became a possibility a few weeks ago, but now am much more serious about it. I'm really at a loss on how to tame my sweet tooth and how to introduce new veggies that I don't know how to prepare. I love veggies, so I've got that going for me, now to figure out more ways to eat them.

I had an echocardiogram done last Wednesday, same day I was diagnosed, because of an irregular EKG. Not sure what is going on there, but my heart rate is too high.

There is so much information out there, I'm trying to learn all that I can. I'll be going to the education classes soon too. I guess you could say I'm a little overwhelmed.

~ Karri
But I will sing of your strength, in the morning I will sing of your love; for you are my fortress, my refuge in times of trouble. ~Psalms 59-16


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1/9/16 10:45 A

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SUSEEE,

you sound like you are at a point where you are just on the edge of being considered a diabetic. Really it is just a soft transition from "normal" to "diabetic". Let's make a comparison with being overweight. At what point are you overweight. Say 180 pounds. So if you are 179 then you aren't technically overweight, but it isn't like suddenly everything is fine.

Same with diabetes. It is just a line in the sand.

Absolutely, eat real foods. If it gets ground up, processed, or comes in a box, like breakfast cereal, bring it to question. If you must bake it or cook it in order to eat it (like rice or wheat) the same thing, probably don't eat it. Don't eat white things (this cuts out bread, rice, sugar ..)

If you can eat it raw, then eat it, even if you choose to cook it. Meat is something you can eat raw if it is fresh enough (think sushi and steak that is very rare on the inside).

James


All time highest weight : 217 pounds

Starting weight : 195.0 pounds (June 7, 2012)
Final weight : 168.2 pounds (July 23, 2013)


 current weight: 168.5 
 
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1/6/16 12:39 A

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Edited by: SUSEEE at: 1/6/2016 (00:40)
I'm not telling you it's going to be easy. I'm telling you it's going to be worth it"-Art Williams
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Goal Wt #1 165 12/29/07
Recommit 11/1/15--Make small changes and be consistent. Never give up.


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Hi. I was just diagnosed and am feeling overwhelmed. I am a nurse and know some--but not enough. I will be starting on Metformin and am worried about the side effects. My initial A1C was 7.1 Since diagnosis in November, I have lost 5 pounds on my own. I am scheduled to see a nutritionist and diabetic educator as well as podiatrist, ophthalmologist. I have been walking regularly and cutting out the "white" foods- though not completely. I also got a pneumonia vaccine even though I'm not old enough by age criteria. I'm just wondering if this is overkill. My FBS on diagnosis was 126. Two years ago it was 124 so it has been gradually coming. Do I really need all these specialists now when I don't have any symptoms and am in the early stages?

I'm not telling you it's going to be easy. I'm telling you it's going to be worth it"-Art Williams
SP 5/20/07 SW 194
Goal Wt #1 165 12/29/07
Recommit 11/1/15--Make small changes and be consistent. Never give up.


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1/1/16 3:38 P

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WALKIN4JEANIE,

Exercise is good but eating healthy things is key. My experience with the glycemic index is that it is a good idea to avoid blood sugar spikes, but my trouble has been general carb load. My body can't manage carbs well, and my blood sugar goes up and stays up a long time.

So I need to have my total carb load across the whole day very low. Read your labels, look at where your carbs are coming from.

James


All time highest weight : 217 pounds

Starting weight : 195.0 pounds (June 7, 2012)
Final weight : 168.2 pounds (July 23, 2013)


 current weight: 168.5 
 
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