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5/3/13 11:17 A

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I completely understand your sentiments. These hate groups are repugnant and assuring the rights of those who have harmed us challenges our belief in fairness. BUT, if we don't follow this code, this rule of law, we risk becoming as repugnant as those hate mongers and violent sociopaths.

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5/3/13 8:15 A

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I am horrified any time violence is used, whether by guns or bombs. My concern continues to be that we keep legal rights for those who oppose us so that those rights will exist when people who support our points of view need them. I remember when the Nazis wanted to march in Skokie, a predominately Jewish town near Chicago. At the time, I wanted them not to be allowed to march, thinking about the pain it would cause those whose families had been killed during the Holocaust. Now the same thing is happening with the Hillsboro church that thinks it has the answer for the rest of us. Protecting those who I most disagree with when they choose to assemble challenges my beliefs in their right to assemble. Those who have harmed others by violence also challenges my beliefs, but I want to be logically consistent despite my personal repugnance at their beliefs.

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4/21/13 11:17 P

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Any time civil rights are suspended due to "extraordinary" circumstances, I am very uneasy. The NRA backers are so quick to scream down any possible infringement of their right to assault weapons, magazines that hold umpteen rounds, and ability to walk in to a show and walk out with any/all weapons they can carry. I find it interesting that these same people are now shouting the loudest to curtail other rights also protected by that same constitution and don't see any conflict.

I am deeply saddened that as a country, we still have so much difficulty getting past the "us" and "them" syndrome. Be it nationality, religion, race, economic status, or even a sporting team - way too many people seem to need to justify themselves by demonizing or putting down another group based on nothing other than they're not just like "us". Ironic that it's the same attitude held by those they're so against.

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4/21/13 2:16 P

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I think that people with guns and high capacity mags that mow down many, many innocent people should be charged with having WMD's as well.
I don't understand why it's ok to kill lots of people as long as it's done with a gun.
Sorry if that's a bit off topic, but man, that bugs me!

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Hi Sara.
I believe that under current laws....they have 48 hours to Mirandize him - AFTER he is able to understand and respond to the charges against him. Currently, he is unable to communicate (we don't know why....) While I am very concerned about people's legal rights ----- I DO consider these two to be terrorists, in the legal sense, and may represent an ongoing and present danger to the public at large. Who knows if they are part of a larger cell - whether there are other devices placed in public areas, just waiting to be detonated. These brothers were determined to inflict death, chaos, pain, maximum harm - on the public. Surely, 48 hours isn't too long to wait until he 'lawyer's up'.....
I was greatly affected by this event ---- and people I love live in the Boston area and were locked down ---- and scared to death.
THIS has to stop!!. What do you think??
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4/21/13 9:39 A

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I have found myself concerned by the assumption that the young man who was arrested in Boston should not be given Mirarnda rights due to the assumption that he is a terrorist. While I am horrified by the harm done to innocent people at the Marathon, the Bush administration's willingness to suspend the laws that were created to protect prisoners from inhumane treatment has made me determined to speak up even now when a man I support is President. What do you think?

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