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8/23/12 5:38 P

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Congrats on making the decision to investigate the Paleo lifestyle. Quality of food is definitely a focus of the nutritional part of the plan. As much fresh as you can get in the fruits and veggie department - you can't OD on veggies - limit fruit to one or servings at most, then the best you can afford for protein.

Eggs are often a low-cost protein solution.

All the best on your journey to finding a healthy nutritional plan.



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LEAVINGSORRY5 Posts: 60
8/21/12 2:30 P

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I find that i like the webiste Everyday Paleo with Sarah Fargoso (not sure i spelled that right)
and Nerdfittness has a great simple explanation of paleo. Someday i'll try Everyday Paleo recipes but right now since we're poor and my oven doens't cook right...seriously it burns things and it's not me. i can cook. so right now it's scrambled eggs and sausage, Salads, and i want to try making a stirfry. Paleo seem like it's easy but i kinda just started so i having felt the changes yet. i'm betting my body will go through a headache, drowsy effect from taking out carbs. but we'll see. today is my first official day of going paleo.

Now to figure out what to eat for lunch

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8/16/12 12:49 A

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Your symptoms sound like me before I was diagnosed with Celiac didsease. You do NOT have to really have testing for this if you cant afford it. The end result is the same: NO gluten. Just go on Paleo, see how you do and consider dairy a major culprit as well because it is. Eliminate one at a time, with beans and corn and rice and white potatoes next. Ease into it if that is how you do better. I do etter with a clean break. I struggle with dairy even though I am pretty sure I am allergic to casein (milk protein).

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8/15/12 9:39 P

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I don't have much time right now but want to quickly address ketosis. There is a huge difference between keto-acidosis, very dangerous, can happen to diabetics, and ketosis or keto-adaptation which is the body's ability to use ketones for fuel. This is a very good thing. Take a look at the blog by Peter Attia at eatingacademy.com and type ketosis in the search engine. emoticon

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LEAVINGSORRY5 Posts: 60
8/15/12 9:32 P

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but what if it's my gallbladder or a small intestinal bacteria overgrowth (SIBO) or celiac or whatever else. i'm working on getting insurance to get this all checked out. and if i'm restricted to eat the same certain foods i'll go crazy. i know i need a better routine but good grief.

and isn't ketosis bad for you....i mean people died doing that.

I need to get this under control or i'll never be able to keep a job. I know i have to change my diet and eat carefully and i do sorta....since i don't have a job we are stuggleing. so i eat what we have. which is ramen and cereal...i do have chicken and turkey burger and carrot and home grown cucumbers for my grandmother....i just bought spinach.....i have tuna...eggs....not much. i love cooking with olive oil....i've never tried coconut oil...is it organic and hard to find and expensive?

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8/14/12 11:55 P

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Unikarm,
I feel for you. I can't imagine the difficulty of your situation. I would suggest to start with very few and very basic foods that you know you can tolerate, maybe primarily vegetables, fruit and nuts and maybe eggs. This would provide you with all the macronutrients you need.
If you can tolerate virgin coconutoil which digested much easier than other forms of fat because it consists of medium-chain triglycerides this may be great, too.
I would strongly suspect that grains are the first thing that needs to go, maybe with the exception of rice.
Keep sharing how you are doing and I know there will be people trying to help you find answers.
I also want to highly recommend the book "Wheatbelly" by William Davis to you. It explains how modern wheat can be highly toxic to many people even more than other grains. I am the leader of the wheatbelly team on spark and you can find the group from my spark page.
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LEAVINGSORRY5 Posts: 60
8/14/12 11:15 P

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Ok SCD means specific carb diet right. the FODMAP diet is made for IBS sufferers. (if i even have that...i need better insurance) all i know is that fatty food and pasta and bread puts me in pain and i also feel acidic all time. Headaches constantly. And tired.

I lost a hospital kitchen job because of my problems. it's like a handicap...i'm only 24...i have the body of an old woman (no offense to the wonderful elderly)

Do you feel my pain (emotional that is)

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8/14/12 9:05 P

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emoticon As others have said here, it is easy to get used to once you change your thinking. You have to realize that you have been fed information your whole life that is clearly wrong for you or you would not be here. Once you get over the idea that you HAVE to have carbs, it is a lot easier.

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8/14/12 1:13 P

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It's really more for Crohn's, Colitis and IBS.

I don't "need" it at this point but my mother does :)

You'd have to read the whole book AND *you* would like to as it's written by a biochemist. The first half is totally over my head and the 2nd half gets down to business. :)

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8/14/12 12:49 P

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I do not believe any longer that there is a way to be too low carb, maybe too low veggie, but even that is debatable.
Our body can make sugar without carbs and people who eat low-carb have gotten their body used to using ketones for fuel.
Now you've got me curious about SCD, I'm not celiac but I'm still going to look it up. emoticon

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8/14/12 12:23 P

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...and by the way:

I just checked your sparkpage. It sounds like you have SERIOUS IBS issues. I'm going to toss this out there to you and you can read it or throw it away:

SCD is the best plan for healing a sick gut. I already know what causes most of my issues (and will continue to learn) but anybody with gut issues should at least read up on SCD. Google away!

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8/14/12 12:22 P

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I also get my carb through fruits and vegetables. I made the switch about a month ago and I feel far better now.

Ellen

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8/14/12 12:19 P

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I eat a ton of carbs...veg and fruit.

Do you track your food? If so, check your macros.

I use myfitnesspal (it's much better than SP's and I've used many, many different trackers -- almost any out there are better than SP...I love the SITE but the tracker is whack).

I get over 100g of carbs everyday. Sometimes a LOT more. I'm not one of the VLC people. My macros attempt to hang around "Zone"-ish but obviously, that's not my main concern.

I'm also not the leanest person here! I'm around 25% body fat.

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8/14/12 12:12 P

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But what about getting enough carbs? i mean too low can cause problems too.

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I'm Celiac (which is hereditary and have congenital lupus; my mother is the advanced form having lost her pancreas, she's now type I diabetic and progressed to Crohns and Colitis).

If you know that you have a gut issue, removing grains and legumes (at least) is a major boon! I want to arrest this. I do not want to end up where my mother is.

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8/14/12 1:05 A

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Unikarm,
I agree that after the initial effort to change the way you buy food and cook you will find that this is the tastiest diet ever, not hard at all to stick with. After 2-3 months you will like it so much that you'll wonder why you ever liked things like bread and pasta or beans. After 5 months you will consider them at the same level as cardboard, devoid of flavor. emoticon emoticon

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8/13/12 10:48 P

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I just heard of fodmap yesterday. Seems kinda huge.

Personally, about mid-July I quit eating grains. I replaced the grains with lots of veggies on my plate, hard boiled and scrambled eggs, nuts, avocados and more meat than I had been eating, which wasn't much. I've also recently switched to using coconut milk in my coffee. The first two weeks were a bit rough energy-wise and now that's getting better. My appetite and energy levels have really leveled off nicely. It's amazing that after cutting out grains, my sweet tooth is almost non-existent. Yogurt and blueberries sound much more appetizing to me than ice cream, which used to be a favorite of mine. Dinner is much more enjoyable as it no longer goes *thunk* into my stomach, and I start to get nicely sleepy somewhere between 9 & 9:30 pm.

Best wishes with modifying your diet to improve your gut. I hear ya! I've had serious problems with my gut that have landed me in the hospital a time or two. For me, I think grains are a big part of my problem. Again, best wishes!!!

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8/13/12 10:42 P

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It's hard getting started but gets easier. Once you start to feel better it gets much easier.

We've just had a delicious dinner of pork cooked in salsa verde and coconut oil with a green salad and some olives. For a treat, I had a glass of red wine. Better than any 'diet'.


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8/13/12 9:26 P

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i'm trying to go low fodmap paleo diet for my gut issue's. it seems a good way to go i just gotta do it. it's hard

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