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LADYGWEN25
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7/28/11 8:45 A

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ok will have to check it out.

Gwen

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7/27/11 2:03 P

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Here's the "clickable" link...will check it out, thx!

www.leangains.com/2010/05/fasted-training-
boosts-endurance-and.html


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7/27/11 12:52 P

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I certainly can't speak for anyone with any specific medical condition, however, here's an interesting article on training in a fasted states and the benefits.

http://www.leangains.com/2010/05/fasted-training-boosts-endurance-and.html

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LADYGWEN25
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7/27/11 8:27 A

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this is an intersting topic... the only thing i would caution against any sort of fasting is if you're an athlete training for a race... food is just as important as rest.. and if you have health issues like diabetes.. or in my case reactive hypoglycemia... fasting is not an option.

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7/26/11 3:22 P

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Indeed, I personally go only ~24 hours max, and I make a meal for when I break the fast that includes healthy balanced food (plus omega and multi vit supplements) . He suggests a reasonable method as well for the fast, that is, to start it at 6pm one day and end it at 6pm the next so that your technically eating everyday. I also drink plenty of water and I plan on (hasn't happened yet) if I feel weak or not well on the fast I'll break it, really try to read my instincts. Your also allowed tea and coffee(black), I personally choose coffee.

Cool post also with the calorie restriction society, I think I might join the free membership so I can stay up to date on the research. :)

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7/26/11 2:21 P

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I seem to recall, with regard to fasting, that muscle tissue is not compromised until approx. the 3rd day. Also there has been much positive buzz about deliberately restricting calories:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calorie_restriction

www.crsociety.org

But that's not to say there are many cautions mentioned as well.

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7/26/11 1:24 P

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Yea I also had concerns as well about "starvation mode" before reading the book. I found it very compelling though because the guy that wrote it was a research analyst for a major supplement company. He understands his science pretty well, considering his job consisted of analyzing research papers, and compiled this short, but in depth book of research surrounding fasting. Come to find out when you exercise your fat burning hormones are released, not surprisingly, and your insulin sensitivity also improves. Well more or less the same thing occurs during a short fast 18-36 hour fast (18-24 generally what he recommend, but the benefits extend to aprx. 36). You would think that this would cause catabolism of muscle tissue, but when on just a 3x a week muscle resistance program your muscle is not broken down.(he cites a study where people were on a 1200 calorie diet for ~12-20 weeks, muscle resistance 3x week and didn't lose any muscle). The main idea that he brings to the table is the manipulation of insulin, when no carbs (glucose) are consumed(our main diet in this country) human growth hormone is biochemically able to circulate more freely( could not tell you the advanced biochem but basically, insulin up human growth down, human growth up insulin down. So if thats the case short fasts are an excellent way to synergistically work with exercising (i've been trying it and it seems to be exploding my fat loss results) but also allows muscle retention(human growth hormone--and hgh release is a sign glucagon is also more likely released in the body (fat burning)) and markers of health (insulin sensitivity, reduced inflammation, oxidative damage, cellular stress resistance.).

haha sorry for the long post but I find this so interesting. From a more historical anthropological perspective I don't think our bodies were meant to eat as much as we do and intermittent fasting seems like a good way to not only give the body a break from all of the chemical reactions (food) stress on organs, but also, considering fat burning hormones are released during a fast, it points the more obvious observation that:
eat food - hormones for storing it released
don't eat- hormones for burning it released
Also I think we just have an innate fear of starving so I feel like that skews our interpretation of what it means to be hungry in our society where we have so much

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7/26/11 11:02 A

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i like the bradpilon.com site.. thanks Don! :)

Gwen

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7/25/11 10:33 P

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Welcome to the Team!

Looks like these are relevant references to Eat Stop Eat:

bradpilon.com/

www.eatstopeat.com/

Hmmm...looks like it might be tricky stuff, but you know, if it works for you? More power to ya! :-) I would have concerns about kicking into starvation mode and forcing the body to hang onto the calories and pounds more stubbornly.

But I always say: we all find our own paths! GL, and hope for success for you!

Don

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LADYGWEN25
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7/25/11 7:47 P

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Hello and welcome to the group! I will say i've honestly never heard of that book... But it sounds interesting. :)

Gwen

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7/25/11 5:34 P

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Hello everyone, I was messing around online and stumbled upon this site. I'm pretty impressed by its intricacy. My goal is to be under 10% bf, currently around 15-20. I was pretty much just looking for a tracker, but this definitely appealed to me because of the large community. To get right into it, I was wondering if anyone has read the book "Eat Stop Eat" Bran Pilon, I just recently finished it and am curious to hear some opinions on intermittent fasting.

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