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6/25/08 8:10 A

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It is also possible that the derailleur is bent. Sometimes if the bike gets dropped on that side or when it is being installed something happens or the derailleur was sent out bent. If you take it back to the LBS ask them to check it's alignment.
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JHOLLNAGEL Posts: 1,768
4/30/08 8:48 A

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I'll re-check that as well. I know my quick release were stripped and my LBS put a new in. I figured they had lined everything up for me properly but now with 80+ miles on things may have shifted during my flight LOL

I probably should have the bike tuned up before I really get into nice riding weather soon.

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4/29/08 4:45 P

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I had some problems with slippage after changing a rear flat and not seating my wheel properly. It was at a slight angle so the derailleur wasnít riding properly on the gears.


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JHOLLNAGEL Posts: 1,768
4/23/08 1:26 P

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Thanks for the info .... I'm shifting through now to keep me at 80+ on the cadence. I'll work on the slippage issue and see what is the root of the problem. That way I can go to my LBS and explain properly what I'm experiencing. I want to first rule out newbie riding habits rather than blaming it on the chain or pedals.

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JAMIERAND Posts: 200
4/23/08 1:19 P

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You know, if your pedals are slipping, it might be a mechanical issue, and not a 'you' issue. Your chain could be stretched and slipping, or your cranks could be worn down, causing the chain to slip over them. I had that happen on my mt. bike once and whenever I hit a hill they would slip on me. I had to replace some parts which was a pain, but nothing too traumatic.

As for your gearing, if the rolling hills are short I would leave the front gear in the middle ring and just work the rear gears. If they're longer, drop down to the small ring (aka granny gear) in the front, and then as needed, change the back.

If you find yourself riding in the big ring in front, small in the rear (or vice versa), that's a good way to stretch out your chain. They're easy to replace, but again an inconvenience. With the exception of being in a full on granny gear (small in front, big in back), I try avoid it. But, a hill is a hill... don't deny yourself the gearing if you need it. This is more a heads up if you like to ride the big gear in front and small in the back.

Hope that helps and that the slipping problem is an easy fix. Another great thing to try is to find a long flat, and just shift through your gears. Getting a feel for where everything is can really help, and not having to worry about terrain takes the stress out. Down the line, check into the clipless pedals. They're great... and then you can join the conversation on falling down after forgetting to unclip :)
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4/23/08 9:52 A

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I have a question ... currently I have cages on my pedals now if I get serious about riding and stick with it I'm sure I will go to clip pedals. Right now I do get nervous because I do not have the right shoes riding to be able to bail out fast and smooth. Some day I'm going to pay.

With that said here is my issue, I do not have steep hills to climb but some rolling hills. I experience pedal slippage/jerkiness when I try to pedal out of the saddle.

What am I doing wrong?

I have a 14.2 mile course that I have rode 3x's. My first avg was 14.2 mph, 2nd ride avg was 15.49 mph and last night's ride was 17.63 mph avg woohoo my best:-) However, I'm wondering if I could have been faster if I could have attacked these slight upgrades differently?

Suggestions on gears. Remember I'm new I have 3 Sprockets up front and I think 6 or 7 sprockets in the rear. So when you suggest state where the chain should be riding. Which sprocket in the front and which in the rear.

Thanks

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4/18/08 10:39 P

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Let us know how it goes! Good luck.

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4/18/08 2:35 P

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Thanks for all the great tips. My last ride I basically freaked out when I approached the steeper hills and ended up doing a lot of walking, pushing my bike up the hill. I think I was riding in too high a gear on the hill and would literally grind to a halt half-way up. I'm going to try it in a lower gear and see how I do.

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4/18/08 10:09 A

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Not a big fan of hills, me. Give me the flats or rolling country anytime. Saying that, one of the best ways to train for hills is to actually get out and climb them. I make it a point of alternating my long ride from hilly to rolling every weekend.

Simplistically, hill climbing is all about power to weight ratio. Weight's obvious - decrease weight, go up hills faster. On the flipside, you could increase power and you'll also go faster. Power in this case is muscular force, and the best way to improve that is low cadence-high gear work. Here's how I like to do it:

After you've warmed up (well - I like 15' WU and CD), you'll want to select a big gear that you can spin at 60-70rpm. Your HR will be relatively low - this is primarily "strength training" on the bike rather than cardio. Stand and at first do 3' in this big gear, recover for 1' (spin easy gear) and repeat, say 5x. Your pedal stroke wants to be nice and smooth throughout - if you're stopping at the bottom of the stroke you're in too high a gear. You'll want to build this up until you're doing 20' (see DRUMMERs post). I aim for 30'-40' per session myself, either 2x long sets or 5x short sets.

Of course, you should be doing this ON a hill. Isn't the weather nice there in TX these days? Failing that, you can also do these on the flat, ideally into a headwind. On a trainer, use a riser block for the front wheel so that you're simulating going uphill.

Everyone's got good tips for going uphill, I'm especially guilty of white-knuckling the handlebars when I get tired. On your ride, make sure you have enough low gears for the hill. I have a large cog on the back which is my "bail-out" gear which everyone laughed at when I put it on - they weren't the ones laughing when I was spinning nicely up the hill while they were suffering! It is MUCH easier to spin a low gear at high RPM up a hill than it is to mash a bigger gear.

Hope this helps, and good luck with the training!

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4/18/08 9:42 A

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I like what you said about being totally relaxed on your climbs. I go into a climb stressed and tight because I KNOW Iím a weak climber. My mind is working against my success. Itís all in my mind. I know the technical part of climbing I just seize up the second I see a hill. But give me a flat or rollies and I fly (to the point of leaving DH behind) Time to change that.

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4/17/08 11:54 A

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Getting out of the saddle is key for me. Even when I do get outside, I train for hills by increasing resisitance and getting out of the saddle.

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4/17/08 3:24 A

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Tighten your resistance as much as possible on your trainer, make sure your bike is 100% secure, and ride out of the saddle at different intervals, such as 10 - 20 minutes at a time, then sit and maintain the cadence for 2 to 5 minutes, then get out of the saddle again for another 10 to 20 minutes, this will simulate climbing, but it wont replace the real road =)

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I think it's best if you just go out and climb the things. I am a climber, it's always been my strength. My weakness is flats. I relax my upper body completely, I'm talking so relaxed that my lips practically hang and drools. My arms come in, and no tension on the bars. I don't do trainers.. rode one one time last winter when our bike shop had a slow day. Are you lacking hills there or is the weather still poor?


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4/16/08 10:28 P

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Attach a small motor to the back of your bike :)

Hills are a bear. The fact that you're riding a trainer (versus a spin bike) in and of itself is a big help. For me though, at the end of the day I just have to climb the darn things... a good song stuck in my head helps distract me from the burn in my legs. Good luck on your ride!

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4/16/08 10:03 P

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Can anyone tell me the best way to train for hill climbing on my indoor trainer? I'm signed up for a ride in two weeks that has some pretty nasty hills.

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