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9/4/12 10:12 A

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Good luck on finding a place and even though you can't focus on the plan, keep in touch and stay connected. ♥

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9/3/12 11:15 P

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Thank you both for your reply! I'm sorry I didn't respond sooner. I just found out that my landlord wants to sell the house that I'm renting, and I have 60 days to find a new place... this ALWAYS happens to me... as soon as I'm really ready to make a complete and thorough commitment to something --- something MAJOR comes along and my focus is severely compromised. With only 60 days to find a new place, I will probably be fasting everyday as opposed to every other day and just living off my fat-lol.

Thanks again for your replies/help. I will get into this as soon as I can get my life situated again...

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9/2/12 10:10 A

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The two weeks is alternating up and down days and it just continues that way until goal. The only difference between the 2 wks and later is that he recommends using shakes for the two weeks. He says we all underestimate the calories we consume and that way you don't underestimate your calories. Please read the thread about beginners in JUDDD. Welcome to our group, lots of help with losing to goal...Post often, it helps.
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Life is not about waiting for the storm to pass, it's about LEARNING TO DANCE IN THE RAIN!

Trust in God when the going gets rough! Keep Him with you all through out the day...Think of Him often, He has every hair on your head counted and He's always "On call"....

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9/2/12 9:52 A

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360 + 1200 divided by 2 = 780 calories

I'm a big advocate of not overeating or binging on UP days. However, if you messed up your metabolism by eating too little already in the past, I might suggest slightly higher.

Maybe 400 or 500 calories on DOWN days and 1200-1500 on UP days.

In this range, you'd be averaging between 800 and 1000 calories, which still creates a calorie deficit. SparkPeople likely suggests that, in order to lose weight, you might need to eat in a 1200-1550 calorie range, so you'd be staying in this range on UP days, and eating lower on your VLC days.

(I did things differently, but this might work for you.)

Also, you need to choose a plan that you are willing to stick with for a lifetime, not just while you are losing weight, or, you will likely gain the weight back again. It's OK if the weight comes off slowly, as long as it's steady and consistent. I'd be careful, with your history, about going too low.

BUG will likely be along soon to give additional input.

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9/2/12 6:35 A

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Hello to all,

I came across the Alternate Day Diet while researching information on meal replacement programs utilizing protein shakes as meal replacements and became intrigued. My biggest "obstacle" in getting started on a liquid meal replacement diet was the idea that after several weeks, my metabolism would just slow down and make losing the weight even harder.

A little bit of background info on me... I had a total thyroidectomy 4 years ago after having Graves' disease and being HYPERactive and thin for many years. Long story short, I was on mega doses of antithyroid meds for 4 months before surgery in an effort to get my thyroid levels down and gained close to 50 pounds before having the surgery. After the surgery, spent several months trying to find the correct replacement dosage of thyroid meds and finally saw a Naturopathic doctor who got me on the correct replacement, but also told me that losing the weight was going to be practically impossible until reverse T3 was corrected.

I ended up doing a round with HCG and did lose close to 40 pounds. Unfortunately, I gained the weight back and then some after a few years. I have a "desk job" and am currently unable to exercise at the present time. I like meal replacement/protein shakes, so I therefore decided to try Optifast or something similar. I actually purchased several boxes of a meal replacement product called Wonderslim which has 15 grams of protein, 7 carbs, 1.5 grams of fat, and 100 calories per shake. I was going to follow the Optifast or Medifast plan utilizing the Wonderslim shakes, which other people are currently doing. My issue, as stated above, however, is that I am afraid of "destroying" my already low metabolism (anyone without a thyroid knows what I'm talking about).

Through my research, I found the Alternate-Day Diet and this message board. I started thinking that perhaps alternating the calories could be the solution to my concern about lowering my metabolism even more. I plan on purchasing the book- but have to wait until pay day ; ) I would so appreciate it if someone familiar with the plan could answer the following questions/provide advice.

(1) I know that you alternate low days and up days and that you should eat only until satisfied on the up days. I also know that the author recommends protein shakes or bars for the 500 calorie down days, which is perfect for me. What I am confused about, however, is the 2-week period when first starting. Are we supposed to have 500 calories per day for 2 straight weeks and then do the alternating of up and down days?

(2) Since I have such a sedentary job and cannot currently exercise, my goal was to have 1000 calories per day if doing the Wonderslim shakes (with the Optifast/Medifast plan outline.) This is very "doable" for me as I am very motivated and have done this in the past. But, again, I was afraid that after a few weeks of doing 1000 calories per day, my metabolism would just slow down to accommodate the decrease in calories. With the Alternate Day Diet protocol, would it be acceptable to have 3 protein shakes on "down" days (which would actually total 360 calories, as I like to add a little cocoa powder and Stevia to my shakes), and then have 1200 calories on my "up" days? When alternating up and down days, one week will have 4 down days and 3 up days, and the next week will be 4 up days and 3 down days. Therefore, the total number of calories for a two-week period would equal 3960 total calories for a week with 4 down days and 5160 total calories for a week with 4 up days. This would in turn be 565.7 calories per day (averaged out) during the week with 4 down days and 737.1 calories per day (averaged out) during the week with 4 up days. Will this work, or will it end up slowing my metabolism anyway, even though I am alternating up and down days? I realize that increasing the up days to 1500 calories would put me closer to the 1000 calorie per day average; however, I could VERY easily stick with 1200 calories on my "up" days and would prefer to do that in an effort to lose the weight a little faster. I'm assuming (and hoping that I'm right) that since I have read posts about people completely fasting on their down days, that my idea of having 1200 calories on up days with 360 calories on down days should be perfectly fine, but I would really like to hear the opinion of others on the plan.

Thanks so much for taking the time to read and TIA for opinions/suggestions. I am really very excited to get started with this protocol. I already have the shakes needed but cannot start until I know if I'm supposed to have 2 straight weeks of down days or not. I have a good feeling that this *just may be* the correct protocol for me, especially when it comes to "maintenance"-- which is truly the hardest part of all.


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