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12/5/11 2:48 P

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Yes the JUDD induction period was a great way to balance /track caloric intake along with Sparks as the "hall monitor" emoticon boosted by our local TOPS Chapter's support in finally reaching my loss goal of 160 lbs..Now I will continue with JUDD et al to maintain my milestone moment. and a healthier 76Th year ,and Beyond emoticon

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12/4/11 8:43 P

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Hi MADYWITZ,

I'm probably too late and you are alll taken care of for these things, but I'll answer anyway.


This is the calculator for your induction phase and beyond.

www.johnsonupdaydowndaydiet.com/htm
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ow-to-do-the-diet.html#the-inductio>n-phase


The book is good, too of course.

As for tracking calories here-- it is via 'mynutrition' It is quite simple and helps for me to track EVERYthing. What i like is that you can add your own categories if you'd like. It calculates all kinds of intake and nutrition, not just calories.

I've seen people have the most success when they are very strict on the induction phase. I'm having trouble with my own-- but still have success when I go for modifed DownDays with good UpDays.

Don't look at my recent intake, unless you wish to see someone eating 'not great' calories which leads to too many. This is what happens when I go for empty cals, sigh.

Good luck on this. It really helps to RElease stubborn pounds. Thank goodness.

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11/29/11 5:27 P

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great discussion ,I am lucky that our children are all on JUDDD and nor shy at sharing tips re DDs .And as you say moderating on UDs,,Like you I can :last" til tomorrow,but do watch UP Days don't get away from me,as happened last week,putting my progress off track and TOPS Goal by Dec 31st in danger.I do use Sparks tracking for Up & Down although I am diabetic ,which by the by is becoming very manageable and I am taking less meds . emoticon

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11/29/11 3:31 P

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You can do Sat & Sun as up days but most do a mid-day (about 1000-12000) on one of those days. I have a FitDay.com account where I input the calories. Spark has calorie counters too but I don't use it so I don't know how it works. I'm sure someone can help you out with that.
Good luck, I'm having a water only day to kick start me because I've been slacking..
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11/29/11 1:54 P

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Thank you BUGLET. I will go to Walmart and look for those shakes (I live in Quebec so I hope I can find them). If not, I will buy the SlimFast.

Another question for you....how or what tool do you use for the calorie count (when eating real foods instead of the shakes)? Is there a sit eor calculator that can easily provide you with that information?

Also, I read somewhere that the DD are typically M-Wed-Fr; this leaves Sun-Tu-Th-Sat as UD. However, Sat and Sun are next to each other, is that a problem to have 2 UD in a row?

I like the 3 DD formulas (above) bcuz it will be easier to start on a DD first thing Monday morning. Please let me know whether I can follow these 3 DD and 4 UD formula mentioned above.

Thanks.

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11/29/11 9:27 A

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For the new members who see those of us who do fasting, please do not think that it's required. It's a tool we use to help us break plateau's or lose quickly an unexpected weight gain. Doing the 500 down day will adjust your body to lower calories and you will have more control over food.
It says in the book on page 244 that the high number is only to get the number of calories we need on the down day. (but then he gives 500 as the down day calories.) It says it's absolutely (his words) not necessary to eat that amount on the up days. He says to eat only until satisfied. The calculator is more to set the down days higher if you want to just maintain. Like 50% to maintain on. I have to use the 500 or less or I can't even maintain. Think about it, you're trying to lose weight, if you're satisfied with a smaller amount on the up days, that's normal..If your tummy is shrinking, that's a good thing.

Just keeping this on top!
JUDDD in a nutshell:
It is a 500, or less, calorie down day and eat until you're satisfied up day. You do not have to eat a lot on your up day. Stick to the down day at 500 or less, then eat moderately on the up day. Some people join JUDDD because they think it's a license to eat all they want on the up day and some do get away with it for awhile but eventually you will have to tame those up days to continue losing.
Dr. Johnson wants us to do shakes on the down days for two weeks to be sure we aren't under estimating how many calories we are eating on our down days. If you do that I would recommend EAS Advant Edge Carb Control shakes. (at Walmart down by the body building stuff) They are only 110 calories and 17 grams of protein and the protein will help you survive the DD. The down days get easier with time and you will soon look forward to them after too many up day calories. Some people do not like to do the shakes but would rather eat food. My advice here is to make your calories count by eating protein and be sure to measure everything. It is very important to drink 8-10 glasses of water not because it's the thing to do but because it helps the diet to work. Some find it easier to wait as long as you can on a DD to eat something. If you do the EAS shakes you can have 3 of the shakes and a couple servings of plain cooked broccoli, no butter just seasonings. Or 4 shakes. Cucumbers and celery are also great to munch on. If you prefer food, a sample down day diet would be an EAS shake for breakfast and 4 oz's of skinless breast of chicken for 120 calories and 2 cups of lettuce with lemon or just seasoning for 13 calories. Some find Walden Farms have lots of no calorie, no carb dressings and other products too. The cheapest place to get them is at Netrition.com. I find it cheaper even with shipping than my grocery store. Then at dinner more chicken and salad. If you have enough calories, add more broccoli plain. Another great tool is hot tea and chicken broth to tide you over in a hunger attack. Please keep this thread free from other postings so that I can add other things that I think of to help you. This will be the only thread not used for posting and that's to make it easier for the new people to find the info that they need to succeed. Another DD menu would be .5 cup egg beaters for breakfast 60 calories
1 piece of bacon 69 calories,or 45 calorie slice of toast with a cup of green tea For lunch, salad 13 calories with 2 oz breast of chicken, 60 calories, low carb tortilla (50 calories) then dinner, one pouch of tuna or salmon, about 90 calories with a low carb tortilla (50calories) for a total of under 500 calories. So you can see that it is possible to do way under 500. Don't forget if you have hunger drink a cup of chicken broth.
Now for the mindset:
First and foremost, I can eat tomorrow. If I tough it out and keep it under 500, I will see a loss tomorrow. I can do this, it's only for one day. If I follow this faithfully I'll reach my goal. It gets easier as you figure out what food are in the down day range that you like. I'm only dieting half the time. After the two weeks are over you continue the same. It's only the shakes for two weeks, if you chose food during the two weeks then you just keep on doing the alternate days.

This is the plan as it was written..good luck and welcome to the team.

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11/29/11 8:40 A

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Hi all,

I am so happy I found this forum. I will be starting this diet next Monday, Dec. 5. I think this could work for me. I will put in the effort and hopefully, with the motivation of this forum, I will be able to get through the DD and the induction period.

But before I begin next Monday, where and how do I start? Is there a topic here that could help me with that? For example, on DD during the induction phase, I may not be able to do shakes at every meal. Where can I go to find alternatives. I read about this diet but I am looking to see how others have started, people's tips and successes, etc...

Thank you all.

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