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Who are the Daughters of St. Francis de Sales? Well, we practice the spirituality of St. Francis as described in his "Introduction to the Devout Life." You can read about us on our website at www.desalesassociation.org. I think that would help more than my rambling on about it. If not, just say, and I'll ramble.

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3/8/08 6:42 P

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LOL! Actually I was baptised three times... when I was born there was real concern that I would not live, so I was baptised immediately by the R.C. priest who was on duty, but it was never noted on my chart. Then when I took another bad turn, I was baptised by the protestant minister. When I was brought home, my paternal grandmother (where the Ukrainian rite hails from - and I mean HAILS) refused to accept that I had already been baptised and arranged for my 'proper' baptism in the Ukrainian church! To this day, I'm shocked that my parents cooperated and that the priest did so - it would never happen today. I've always wondered if he was even told I had already been baptised...

Short answer: yes, I received all three sacraments of initiation at the third baptism, and babies baptised in the Eastern rite are welcomed to communion from that point on. It's left to the parents to decide if they want them to continue. There is a formal acknowledgement once again at first reconciliation.

I have always appreciated the uniqueness of both rites, and I still feel very comfortable in either church. I chose to practice in the Roman church, because it satisfied my spiritual hunger in a way the Ukrainian rite never has.

I suppose the basic difference for me is that the Roman rite focuses on the great love of God for each and every one of us and invites us to respond to that love with love of our own; while the Ukrainian rite focuses on our obedience to God, who knows what's best for us.

Even my mother will tell you that I do much better when one appeals to my better nature, than when one simply expects me to obey. :)

As for Regnum Christie, while I can't speak highly enough about the 'Familia' program (EVERY mother and father should do it!) I don't feel called to the spirituality of Regnum Christie. Who are the Daughters of St. Francis de Sales?

Edited by: _RAMONA at: 3/8/2008 (18:43)

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3/8/08 5:49 P

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Hi, Ramona,

I used to belong to Regnum Christi in the DC area. Unfortunately, they stopped the meetings I could attend as a working woman. However, I think the Lord was just kicking me out so I could join the Daughters of St. Francis de Sales.

C.S. Lewis has always been one of my favorite authors. Until I was in college, I thought he was a Roman Catholic! His "Mere Christianity" was the first explanation of how God can "send" people to Hell that made sense to me. I lent the book to another employee; he bought me a new copy, since he'd fallen in love with the book. Years later, he told me I'd been the reason he returned to church (C.S. Lewis's book)!

Were you confirmed at your Baptism, or were you baptized in the Roman rite? One of our catechists is from the Ukranian tradition and he received all three sacraments of initiation at Baptism. I also had a Ukranian Catholic in my Confirmation class -- he got a blessing during the Confirmation Mass.

It is unfortunate that we don't learn more about the Eastern rites -- we grow up thinking there is only one rite in the Church -- the Latin rite!

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3/7/08 5:06 P

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Thanks so much for the invitation. I am, however, a bit 'challenge' shy. I joined a Valentine's Day challenge and 'failed' miserably, LOL! I learned a lot, though - I guess that's what it's really all about.

I still seem to struggle with a bad case of 'perfectionism' with a strong side of 'fear of judgement' (mostly my own). My life-long struggle. SIGH. I thought I was mostly over it.

Actually, the real issue is that because I'm struggling with a number of health issues as I begin this journey, I am having a really hard time even figuring out what my goals should be at this point. I'm trudging away, and slowly figuring some things out, but right now I'm just more comfortable (and much less hard on myself, and encouraging of others) if I resist engaging my competative spirit.

I need a little more time before I am ready to be 'challenged'. My 'self' still thinks this is just a little distraction... I don't want to panic her!

Ramona


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3/7/08 4:43 P

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Thank you, Ramona! and Welcome.

I have seen your posts on another team we share and I am delighted to find you here as well!

Perhaps you'd like to join this team's Lenten Challenge. We have a few weeks to go and could use more inspiration like yours.

I am also a life-long Catholic and graduate of Loyola University.

I look forward to hearing from you more!

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3/7/08 4:23 P

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Hi! I've been a member of SparkPeople since the beginning of this year. If you'd like to know more about me, and my reasons for being here, you can check out my SparkPage! :)

I've been Catholic all my life, though I was raised between the Roman Rite and the Ukrainian Rite. It's given me an interesting perspective on the church, I think, and it's enhanced my faith immeasurably. I've been a practicing Roman Catholic all my adult life.

I have always been an active participant in the church, and with respect to maturing in my faith. I went to a Catholic college and took several Religious Studies classes, though they were not part of my program. I have participated in the RCIA program, first as a less-informed-than-I-wanted-to-be participant, and then several times as a sponsor. I have been through the diocesan Lay Ministry Formation program. I have co-facilitated groups in Marriage Preparation. I have been or currently am actively involved in all aspects of liturgy and ministry in my parish.

Currently my husband and I are participants in the Familia program, an apostolate of Regnum Christie, which is designed to support and encourage mothers and fathers of young families (our daughter is 3). We study those encyclicals of Pope John Paul II which are focused on marriage and family life.

The 'Catechism of the Catholic Church' and the Bible are among the most read books in our house. They are followed closely by anything written by C.S. Lewis and Max Lucado.

I am a voracious reader, and this past year I have focused exclusively on Christian fiction. This has enhanced and inspired my faith in ways I could have never imagined.

I'm looking forward to getting to know people here, and to adding a celebration of my faith into my daily experience here at SparkPeople. I'm here at this computer a lot it seems.... LOL!

I pray your Lenten season is blessing your life profoundly. May God abundantly bless you, and those you love, in every way that you require. May he hold you gently in the palm of his hand in a very personal way, and may you rest in the fullness of his love, his grace, his strength, his wisdom, his rescue, his redemption, his healing, his inspiration, his restoration and his mercy as you require it! May you carry in your heart always an extra special awareness of God's great love for you; and as you wander in the desert with our Lord and Savior, may you feel his sweet and gentle touch upon your life, and may you see his miracles all around you. May this time with him quench your thirst in ways you couldn't even dream. I pray in the name of Jesus Christ, our Lord. Amen!

Ramona


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