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You might try SmartTaste pasta - it has more fiber than other white pasta. But white bread isn't evil- it has a lot of soluble fiber in it, just not as much total fiber. Protein seems to be about the same.

You might look for pasta blends to try- Barilla has a really good whole wheat pasta that has oat bran in it, making it really tasty. A problem with many whole wheat pastas is that they can spoil and if they taste bad, they might be too old. But different companies use different sources and have different taste and quality.

Same with whole wheat bread-lots of bad stuff peddled. They also like to boost fiber with fakey fiber that isn't meant to be food. I can't tolerate much chicory root/inulin which is showing up on labels everywhere. Fortunately, I really like whole wheat pita bread, which is usually too simple for them to meddle with. It's hard to get the kind of multigrain sturdy bread I like without the dreaded inulin.

But you can certainly live without wheat, which means you can certainly live without whole wheat. Just get the good stuff. I like to use good French or Italian bread or Everything bagels in my "sandwich in a bowl". Much easier than trying to stuff two pieces of bread with loads of greens and veggies. I mix my Vegenaise with the veggies and anything else I might put in a sandwich, and then tear up the bread or bagel to add to the big bowl, and enjoy.

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5/24/14 5:51 P

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That's how I feel about brown rice :)

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I don't hate whole grain/wheat breads, but it Does Hate me! I can eat the regular breads without a problem but the whole grains make me feel like I have Gravel in my stomach along with a sick feeling.

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5/23/14 10:59 A

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I know Miss Ruth, Wasa Crisp Breads will make whole wheat bread taste like ambrosia.

I don't like brown rice, too gooey. And I don't like whole wheat pasta. It tastes bitter. So I eat good semolina pasta. And when I eat rice. I eat Jasmine.

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Yeah, the Pepperidge Farm is really good. And this coming from an obvious hater of whole grain products.

Like Coral said, the whole wheat pasta is chewy and gross to me, as is brown rice. That's not pasta, LOL

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Thanks for the tip:

Pepperidge Farm Whole Grain Honey Wheat

I'm going to try it...thanks.

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I like whole wheat and other whole-grain type breads, probably because it was what I was raised on. But don't even get me started on whole-wheat pasta. It's chewy and too dense. If I'm going to eat pasta, it has to be the white stuff. Although I did have some brown rice pasta that was pretty good.

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SHARBEAR100, never heard of Dave's Killer Bread. Will have to look that up :)

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Have you ever tried Dave's Killer Bread? Bread doesn't have to be just wheat to be whole grain. They have one with 21 whole grains and seeds. I don't like whole wheat unless it's toasted and has something on it, but I could easily treat this bread almost like a desert, it's that good. Most if not all of the ingredients are organic too.

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I don't consume bread, or pasta, and really any carbs, except lots of vegetables, and a little fruit.

As a low carber, we have a lot of conversations of the evils of bread, but I just think there are varying levels of " bad ". I don't think bread is necessary, but I also know that there are so many things that are worse, like sweets. If you are drinking 2 liters of pop, who cares if you eat some bread?

If you want some bread, eat the brand you prefer, and fit it into your diet. If not, don't eat it.

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5/14/14 9:38 A

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@ EELPIE, yeah, I'm glad I'm better about the fat thing, but it's not completely gone. I'm not sure how long ago the low fat craze started, but I definitely got caught up in it. No way could I deliberately change to a high-fat diet. I still wouldn't have the guts, although I'm more relaxed about eating stir-frys and even some deep-fried foods. Not a LOT, but it's a far cry from where I was about 5 years ago where just about everything I ate was fat-free.

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If it's whole grain, it can't be stand alone in my diet. It's got to have marmalade, sugar, hummus, or SOMETHING to cover the cardboard taste.



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5/13/14 8:17 P

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I rarely eat bread or pasta but when I do I want the real stuff, pasta made from semolina and a good French baguette or a sourdough rye. I like my tortillas made from mesa and it has to be white basmati rice. So....I eat it all once every month or so as a treat. I never say never so if I really want bread, rice or pasta, it has to be the good stuff.

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The ONLY bread I eat is Ezekiel sprouted grain bread. Yummy!


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I'm all for trying new things, but if you don't like it, don't eat it. My mother in law was an itty bitty Japanese woman who was active and I think had a banging metabolism. She ate white rice every day. There are plenty of ways to get nutrition. If someone try's to guilt you into eating something, don't let them.

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@ Lynn - I am so glad you are getting a bit over your fat phobia!! I kinda had it once too - not too bad cause I'm kinda a pig ha ha, but to a degree.

There was that whole "low fat" craze that swept the country what was that 20 years ago or so.

Fat really is not the enemy we were lead to believe.

Russel on here - he does low carb, high fat (or higher?) and really lost a lot of weight. I, personally wouldn't go as high as him...but that's me. I have found that good fat actually helps my diet - I feel better, more full, etc.

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I don't like it either so I don't eat it.





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5/13/14 2:11 P

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I like Franz Whole Grain White Bread 6gm fiber and tastes just like regular white bread.



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Thanks, everyone. Yeah, I'm not going to bother trying to get used to it. I guess the reason I tried is, well, pretty obvious -- all the hype about getting in good, whole grains and "eat whole grain pasta instead of regular" and "brown rice is better for you than white" etc etc etc. I guess I could say I was brainwashed into believing that if I choose white bread over wheat, I'm essentially killing myself or something.

I was also fat-phobic for several years. I didn't touch fat. Good fat, bad fat, it didn't matter, I wouldn't eat it. I was terrified of deep-fried food or even foods fried in healthy oils and at home I never used oil for cooking, it was always cooking spray or broth. I even stayed away from good fats, like the fats found in avocados, fish and nuts. Watching someone else cook was painful, especially if I knew it was food I was going to be eating. Seeing anyone add butter or any type of oil to food would totally freak me out.

I'm surprised I survived those years because my diet was less than 10% fat and I mean ALL fat, not just saturated. Fat meant calories, regardless of the type, and I just couldn't have that. I weighed and measured EVERYTHING. If my bowl of cereal went over by one gram, I would pull a few pieces back out until it was 'perfect'.

While I've relaxed quite a bit with that, I still look at saturated fat content on everything I buy. Yet now they're going on about how saturated fat isn't linked to heart disease and stroke, but I'm still not totally convinced.

So I guess my point here is as stubborn as I consider myself to be, I guess I'm more easily brainwashed than I originally thought. Hence the reason I've tried forcing myself all these years to get used to whole grain breads and pastas and brown rice, etc.

And at CALLMECARRIE, I can relate to your story about using whole wheat flour in scones because I once made a homemade pizza with whole wheat flour. I even used the "white" whole wheat. I'll never do that again, LOL. That was the WORST homemade pizza I've ever made.

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5/13/14 11:21 A

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Easy peasy. Don't eat it.

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Good for you! And, no, whole wheat/grains are NOT good for us, despite all the marketing to the contrary. The negative aspects reported for grains all reside in that bran layer - which means in the whole grain versions.

I agree there are healthy things to be gained from whole grains, especially in comparison to the bleached-out white stuff. But those healthy things are better acquired from other sources, IMO.

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I do not have bread discrimination. I love every kind of bread. Wonder white with pb and j or bologna, sourdough in loaves or slices, seed filled nutty breads, homemade bread - any kind. It's all delicious to me.

I buy sourdough the most often. It's what I grew up with. what can I say? I will always be a Bay Area girl at heart.

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5/13/14 11:04 A

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I got used to it but eventually gave up bread for the most part because it didn't agree with me (bread in general i mean). I never really grew to like it though, it was more that i tolerated it since my husband does the grocery shopping and preferred it. There were some things though i never liked with it, like grilled cheese never tasted right on whole grain bread to me.

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Yeah, if you don't like it, don't force yourself to eat it! Be a rebel. But I also wouldn't go whole hog on the white bread, those calories do add up fast.

My husband is very wary of whole wheat anything. He'll eat whole wheat pasta, but grudgingly, it's a tough sell. I made his favorite scones recipe and substituted one of the three cups of white flour with whole wheat flour, and he looked at it very suspiciously. He liked it, but he was like, "Watch it......"

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Well, I do love a good bread, whole-grain or otherwise... I'm super picky about bread though and won't eat grocery-store-brand-sliced. For the calories it costs me, it HAS to come from the bakery and be EXCEPTIONAL.

I don't eat brown rice or whole wheat pasta, either. I'd rather take a smaller portion of the regular stuff and load it up with extra veggies in the stir fry or pasta sauce. Yes, I would rather have 2/3-cup of white than an entire cup of brown - sometimes it's quality/enjoyment over sheer quantity that matters!

If it's not good (or, if it's maybe "good" by someone else's standards but I don't enjoy it), I won't eat it. I loved Becky's advice - short and to the point.

A wrap or a pita has what, 150-200 calories? You eat 1, 2 of them a day, perhaps? Wrapping them around *vegetable-heavy* fillings? Yeah. I think you'll be alright. :)

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Cortney, yes, I can tolerate it (sometimes) if it's toasted. They honey wheat, though, I can actually get through an entire sandwich without gagging. I don't know what they do to that stuff, but I like it. However, even the honey wheat has to be a certain brand. Luckily the brand I like is actually made with whole wheat flour.

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I am not a fan of whole wheat bread unless it is toasted (preferably with peanut butter on it)

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Becky, I know. It's just nice to know I'm not the only one because most people these days, when you go for white bread over wheat, they look at you like you've got two heads emoticon

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Thank you so much for the feedback and I'm glad to see I'm not alone.

I appreciate the suggestions, but, like Mandie, I can't stand whole grain pasta either. Or brown rice. Can. Not. Stand. It.

I've tried, I have! I've tried over and over to choke down whole wheat breads and whole grain pasta as well, but I just can't do it.

I try and limit how much bread I eat, but I'm a wrap and pita junkie, mostly because it's a great way for me to wrap all my veggies up into one convenient package and I usually toast my pitas in the oven and grill my wraps on the stovetop.

I realize whole grain is better for me - and I do eat whole grains, like oats and oat bran (love that stuff) and other whole grain cereals and I love barley and quinoa (although quinoa is technically a seed, but it's thought of as a grain by many) and corn, etc. But when it comes to bread, it has to be white. Period. I'm done trying new whole grain products, only to end up tossing them into the trash once I've tried them.

I don't know, maybe I have some weird aversion to it or something. It's not just the taste, but the texture. I have a serious issue with that. When eating whole grain bread or pasta, I feel like I'm eating a sponge.

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Then don't use the whole grain breads, pasta and rolls; use your preferred white versions.
There are plenty of other ways to get whole grains: brown rice, oatmeal, popcorn, quinoa, bran cereal, etc,

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Well.... I will say that I hated whole wheat bread until I bought a package of whole grain Wasa flat bread cracker things. They were bad, but not bad enough that I'd just throw them away. (I'm pretty cheap & hate to waste food.) I ate one of those a day til they were gone.... and after that, whole wheat bread tasted pretty good.

I don't eat anywhere near as much bread as I used to. I can go weeks without eating any bread. Most of the time for lunch I eat leftovers and the grain I have with those, is brown rice. For some types of sandwiches, I still prefer white bread. I've got an Amish white bread recipe that is fabulous. Used to bake 2 loaves of that stuff every week, and DH and I ate it all. (No wonder I was fat.) Now I only rarely bake it.

idk... I don't think disliking whole wheat bread is the end of the world. If you can find a brand you like, that's fabulous. If you can cut back on eating white bread and sub in brown rice or whole wheat pasta or whole grain crackers, that's fabulous too. The thing about white bread is that nutritionally it's not doing much for you. It's sort of "filler" food... uses up calories and carbs but doesn't provide much nutritionally. When I first started out on Spark, my calorie range was pretty low and I looked for the most nutritional bang for my calorie "buck", so to speak. And white bread didn't cut it. So I got away from the habit of eating sandwiches every day for lunch and eating bread at dinner, and instead eating other types of grains.


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I am on a low sodium diet and bread is one of the things I miss most. I only allow myself to indulge once or twice a week.










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I loathe the way white bread and pasta slides down my throat.

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I've adapted slowly; I started with honey wheat, and worked my way to regular whole wheat. The texture of the true whole grain )the stuff with the chunks) just doesn't do it for me.

ONe thing that helped was getting out of the bread aisle, and into the bakery. Remember you can do half and half... why not make a sandwich of one slice what you like, and one slice what you want to get used to?

Honestly though, I don't mind settling for "not the absolute best." Honey wheat is still better than white, and this isn't a journey for perfection. I have managed to switch to whole grain pasta, I figure that's victory enough

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emoticon I can't stand it either. I've tried many kinds too and to me it ruins a sandwich and I'd rather just eat something else. What I do is limit bread or sandwiches, try to eat cooked dishes with seasoned veggies and some lean meat instead or a salad with Ranch marinated tuna, etc. I just eat sandwiches only every once in awhile. Because when I eat it, it will be with white bread. I can eat wheat crackers or whole grain pasta or brown rice and am ok with that, but when it comes to bread, white for me! I don't like it either, lol!



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I don't like them either. I eat Arnold's Country White bread or Peasant Bread.

I also don't like whole wheat pasta or brown rice.

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I hate whole wheat bread. I hate whole grain bread. I hate whole wheat/whole grain tortillas. I hate whole wheat/whole grain rolls. And sandwich buns. And pitas. And any bread type made with whole wheat/whole grain flour.

The only... and I mean THE ONLY... whole wheat bread I can stand is Pepperidge Farm Whole Grain Honey Wheat. And trust me when I say I've tried 100,000 (okay, slight exaggeration but you get the point) different whole grain bread products. And I can't stand any of them, except for the aforementioned.

There. I said it. And I feel so much better.

No, I don't want advice on which whole grain products are better than which (because, frankly, I'm so done trying anymore of them) but I *would* like to know if I'm not the only one in the crowd.

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