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3/26/14 8:21 A

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As a heart patient already ( from eating SAD ), I base my health on the scale, and the tests my doctors run, and the results.

My doctors call my results " miraculous ", and have told me that if I were to walk in today, I would not qualify for the ICD I had to get. Yet, any mention of the term low carb , and they tell me not to talk about it. Literally. My cardiologist actually told me " I don't want to know what you are doing, because I can't condone it, but don't ever quit doing whatever you are doing ". That is sad.

The truth is, I started Atkins, because I could eat the bacon, sausage, steaks etc., but sodium still bothers me. So while I still eat a lot of protein, and 65% fat ( 10-12 % carbs ), I don't eat a lot of bacon, or sausage these days, and only eat red meat once a week. Mostly I eat boneless skinless chicken thighs, and get my fat from butter, olive oil, and macadamia nuts, as well as the chicken and eggs.

Over the years though, I have found I like a lot of vegetables, and eat quite a few now. I find that I like vegetables in my omelettes, and in stir fries with oil, and chicken, or in chilis on Sundays.

I think that this increase in vegetables is one reason for my improved health, but I also have to say that the increase in vegetables is because of the diet I do eat ( high fat, low carb ), and the foods that i pair with those veggies. Today for example, I am eating chicken, broccoli, tomatoes, and olive oil. Before, I would have eaten broccoli drenched in Ranch dressing, but most likely not at all. I liked corn, and nothing else, and maybe ate 1 can of corn a week.

The problem we have is that we never isolated red meat, or high fat foods, and tested them separately. We saw that burgers caused people to be obese, and have heart problems, and never thought to ask whether it was the burger, the bun, the condiments, or the COMBINATION of all of it. Is the oil you cook fries in the problem, or is it the fires themselves?

Personally, I would consume 6 ozs. of butter, before I would consume 6 ozs. of yogurt, but that isn't our only choices. No one is saying that you have to eat a bunch of fat, or greasy foods just because they are harmless. You can eat some of these formerly forbidden foods, along with all the healthy foods you were already eating. Have a steak now, but continue to have 3-4 servings of veggies with it.

More important than finding out these foods are okay to eat, is that they weren't the cause of our heart disease increasing. That means it is something else. So we can look at this as a free for all to eat steaks, or stop and ask.. what IS the cause of so much more diabetes, and heart disease?

"We can't solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them "

- Albert Einstein

“Whether you think you can, or you think you can't--you're right.”

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3/24/14 5:29 P

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First, congratulations on your incredible weight loss. Well done!

Second, sure, currently that seems credible. However, science changes all of the time and I know I feel better when I eat fresh, lean meats, and vegetables, and try to eat as clean as possible. Personally, I stick with plant fats as much as I can and continue to feel good.

Best of luck to you.

Lose the weight sensibly, steadily and without deprivation. Being fat is hard. I want a new hard.

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3/24/14 2:09 P

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This has been discussed on these boards a lot lately, and reactions seem to fall into two camps:

1) Yay - let's eat bacon cheeseburgers
2) This could eventually be another one of the things we've been told about unhealthy foods that's wrong. Further research is needed.

I'm in the second group.

"I owe everything you see here to spaghetti."

-Sophia Loren

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3/23/14 10:23 P

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Why almost everything you’ve been told about unhealthy foods is wrong --

Eggs and red meat have both been on the nutritional hit list – but after a major study last week dismissed a link between fats and heart disease, is it time for a complete rethink?

Could eating too much margarine be bad for your critical faculties? The “experts” who so confidently advised us to replace saturated fats, such as butter, with polyunsaturated spreads, people who presumably practise what they preach, have suddenly come over all uncertain and seem to be struggling through a mental fog to reformulate their script.

Last week it fell to a floundering professor, Jeremy Pearson, from the British Heart Foundation to explain why it still adheres to the nutrition establishment’s anti-saturated fat doctrine when evidence is stacking up to refute it. After examining 72 academic studies involving more than 600,000 participants, the study, funded by the foundation, found that saturated fat consumption was not associated with coronary disease risk. This assessment echoed a review in 2010 that concluded “there is no convincing evidence that saturated fat causes heart disease”.

More here: www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/03/23/why-almost-

Edited by: ZENANDNOW at: 3/23/2014 (22:27)

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