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The OP ended their post by asking about a love of junk food but the sentences that preceded that asked about a simple love of eating.

Fortunately, I don't have an issue with junk food .... do I eat it sometimes? Sure, but only what are considered "normal" portion sizes and often, not even that much.

Unfortunately, good /healthy foods & eating too much of those, is my downfall. There's something about the whole experience of cooking and consuming that makes me derive too much pleasure from putting that food in my mouth.

I truly enjoy every aspect of food .... their textures, smells, colors ~ combining foods in special combinations. Perhaps my biggest problem is in learning to still appreciate all of that BUT eating *less* of those things. I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW.

I also eat from boredom, fear, sadness ~ and yet, I have coping mechanisms for those issues so they play a much smaller role than simply loving (and overeating) healthy food.



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I love to eat too, and I also used to spend a great deal of time thinking about food, planning on what to eat and what to buy and on and on. Then I spoke to my doctor and prescribed Prozac three times a day and now I don't spend my entire life thinking about food, I also have a recumbent bike I use every two hours to help keep me moving.

I cant wait until I am confident enough to show a picture of what I look like now.


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I love to eat, too! Do you think there are people who don't like to eat? Are there people who hate to eat?
Figure out a way to love to eat the foods that are building health for you.
There are so many things that you do well. You can do this, too!



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I also love to eat - there are so many foods that just taste good! And I still eat many of them Now though I try to eat smaller portions, appreciate what I'm having for the flavors, the texture, the look & smell, the mouth feel, enjoy the experience of where I am - at a special place or out with friends.
And over time I have trained my taste buds to really crave quality. If I'm going to eat chocolate, it can't be that waxy crap from the dollar store - it has to be See's or Ghiradelli.
(or maybe Fannie Mae if I was still in the Midwest.) But the really good stuff.
I cook a lot of things because I know just how I want it prepared since I am very picky and only I can make it perfect. Like a fried egg - soft yolk for dipping but no snotty whites for me.
Real butter on my pumpernickel bagel - once a month not daily.

Learn to savor the variety in some homemade vegetable soup with all the flavors - herbs, spices, different colors in my favorite big bowl with the green trim. Not the blue rimmed one - that's for other people.

Maybe you have to be a little bit crazy too. I made a list over time of foods I liked to eat. I knew that variety was key to staying on a diet or food plan. So I realized that I liked certain nuts and seeds, and began adding them to my salads. I began to experiment with food temperatures and learned that I liked most things closer to room temperature so I could concentrate on how they really tasted - not so if I was worried about burning the roof of my mouth or freezing my tongue off.
That list forced me to eat again some items that I hadn't thought of in years and some surprises were in store for me. Beets baked in the oven with a little olive oil drizzled over them & some white pepper became a special treat. That wouldn't have happened had I still been chowing down manufactured food products.
It is time to decide whether you are going to make the decisions about what you truly want to eat, and what the food companies have decided for you and the masses, Me I vote with my spoon in one hand and a fork in the other so I still love to eat - I just make better choices in terms of health and flavor.
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Yes, I totally understand. The love of food, its unique kinds, shapes, flavors, and presentation, as well as eating on vacation...This makes it very hard! hang in there though, and just try to maintain balance. Have that unique flavor of ice cream you've been wanting to try.........but try to eat grilled meat and vegetables along with it. Balance. Hard to achieve but worthy of trying.



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This reply has been enormously helpful to me.



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I'm on the master cleanse diet so i don't love to it now. I'm ok with lemonade but for sure I need help to eat healthy after this diet,



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I recently had similar thoughts about my love of food (and yes, I do have a hobby - BBQ competitions, so a hobby based around food). So I did some "light" research and decided that there's just so much information out there that I was NEVER going to get to the root of the problem.
I love the taste, the smell, the texture, the combinations, the savory and sweet, the crispy, the fried, the baked, the CHEESE, the bread, the vegetables, the new, the fresh, the feeling when someone compliments a flavor or a meal, the process of choosing the foods, the recipes - you get where I am going with this, right? I LOVE FOOD. And I could go on and on, but I don't want to. This is not the place and I don't need to prove that I love it, I know I do.
Anyway, I started looking into the whole clean eating thing that has become so popular. And I realized that clean eating can really just be another way of getting back to the root of the matter...eat the things that are good for you.
Simple, huh?
So I started an experiment of sorts. I went to C-f-A and got my "favorite" meal there, a number 1 with extra pickles. And Polynesian sauce. And I ate, slowly...trying to savor the bites. Guess what? It's the pickles that I loved...a bite with no pickles was no good. So next I went for the delectable waffle fry...in that Polynesian sauce. Guess what? I don't really like those fries or that sauce.
Next (on another day) I went to W's...the Number 6. That Spicy Chicken Sandwich with her lovely tomatoes and lettuce and may o to cool your bite....mmmmmm, I couldn't wait! Yeah, not so much. I bake better chicken with hot sauce at home and the bread is sort of cheap tasting. Then there were the fries. I used to order a larger order of them for snacking on the way to where ever I was going to eat. But on this day, I went with the standard medium. Guess what? I didn't even eat half of them. I did not like them at all.
And I kept doing this at all of my "Fav" places...and while I did find that some of the foods, were keepers, the vast majority are not.
And who knew? I do not like mass produced fries?!?!? Why the hell have I been eating them for all these years?
I do enjoy cooking and freshness, but it's not always an option for me due to my life with work and travel. But I have learned what I tend to actually like in a restaurant and what I don't. And I definitely try not to get the things that I don't like...even if I always thought I did.
Now, that's not to say I don't slip up and that I clean eat...I don't...I do have 80+ pounds to lose after all. And I cook BBQ...but I can make my food choices better. 100 calories of veggies is a WHOLE lot more than 100 calories of cheez-its....it's almost like I'm tricking my mouth because by making better choices, I get to eat more!!!! (But shh..., don't tell my tongue!)


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for a while it will feel forced, but eventually healthy food will taste better



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For me, personally, I needed to get to a point where my fitness goals were a bigger priority than overeating. No, you can't give up food and live, but you can make different choices. Eat more whole foods and less junk. Cut out junk altogether. Going back to your alcoholic analogy, we all need to drink to survive, but we don't need to drink alcohol.



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THAT's the way to do it, Jennifer...and the way to customize your favorite foods so as to maximize your enjoyment of them! emoticon

I've found it helpful, too, to "retool" my usual favorites so I can have more and better versions of my favorites. It's a project that pays off well.



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I love to eat too, so when I started my "journey" I learned to cook healthier so I could eat more. Instead of buying pizza, I make my own. 3 slices is what I get opposed to one slice of purchased pizza. I get creative with my meals and fix healthier versions to everything! It's become a hobby of sort!

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This thread offered so many different viewpoints and diversity - I enjoyed reading them all. Too bad there isn't a 'LIKE' button, some of these deserve to be highlighted emoticon

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I love to eat too!
For me the key to success is directing my love towards the taste, texture, smell and beauty of my food, and paying attention to how I feels eating it.
Instead of loving the mindless swallowing of a large amount of food, without even noticing the taste.
It is not easy to always pay attention, and I'm not always able to do it, but it really helps.

I still eat fast food every week, and I love it, but instead of wolfing down large sandwich+large fries, I eat small hamburger with small fries and a plate of vegetables, like carrot sticks or steamed broccoli. It tastes better too!
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Your question is: "How did you overcome your love of junk food?" Simple answer for me is: by eating healthy, as natural as possible foods for a while. Something happened to my sense of taste, and I am much more aware of chemical and processed tastes and don't like to eat a lot of those foods anymore.

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I had very high triglycerides and some other blood numbers that indicated a strong risk for cardiovascular disease, so I was backed into a corner by my desire to live. It was really hard to radically change the way I ate so as to comply with the list of "do" and "don't" food my internist gave me.

I love food, too, and think about it all day long - even several years into maintenance. But I've come to feel that being of that nature is completely fine - it just means we really love food! Finding enjoyment in aspects of day-to-day living is, all things considered, very positive - it means we're very much alive and appreciate the food we eat.

But I had to cut certain foods out, and no doubt about it - that was rough! At this point, though, I know I can have them two days a month while in maintenance, and my blood readings are still fine. So I really look forward to those days, and yet I feel my best when I eat according to my doc's recommendations.

It will probably take a while for you to feel that level of comfort and satisfaction with whatever dietary limitations you've been given, but the payoff is unimaginably wonderful. Stick with it, and know that it's rough going for a while...THEN it gets easier!



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Actually SMNXN10 my husband and I are exactly the opposite of that! He'll eat weird things if I'm not around but I don't always bother eating when I'm alone. Sometimes I'm just too involved with what I'm doing to make something for just me.


~Kelly~

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Time to stop trying to solve things with food (lack of included) that food won't solve. Food solves one thing: bodily hunger.



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Its good to have a treat meal once a week of foods you have been missing, using moderation.

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try to focus on other thing and makes yourself busy



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Everything in Moderation !





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I love to eat and sometimes the love of food overcomes my better habits. I think about food quite a bit of the time, making sure I plan lunch, breakfast, and supper. If my husband or some other men I know are left to themselves, though, they go for hours without eating--just bc it is easier to not prepare some food. It's crazy, the difference between men and women.



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I love to eat so I am careful to make healthy choices...most of the time.



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emoticon I love to eat too
but I love to eat what I COOK better.
Learn to make a simple recipe and this may help you break the fast food habit. Healthy food is cooked at home. Change is good.

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I don't have an answer to your questions, " how did you overcome your love of junk food?". I just want to reiterate your question(s) and also add a question to go along with yours... "how do (or did) you overcome your love of overeating healthy, good-for-you food?" Most of the time I do eat right, just too much of the right food. Portion control has always been my problem. I know how much I should eat, I just don't stop & think about the portion until it's already swallowed. My problem is stopping & evaluating things before they get our of hand...

Just my viewpoint of my view of food... thanks~!

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it beats having anorexia - it is a natural thing to want and love to eat. it is when it becomes out of control/ addiction / used as comfort etc instead of what food is intended for - then it becomes problematic.




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Totally agree with LJBRANDOK. You have to allow yourself to eat foods you love. Just learn to stop before you eat too much of a good thing. If you never allow yourself to eat the "goodies" you crave; you will never be successful at keeping off the weight. Think of making lifestyle changes not of diets.

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"I am just looking for advice from others with the same problem, how did you overcome your love of junk food?"

I love to eat too! And I have often had the same thought as you.....overcoming food cravings is not the same as quitting alcohol or drugs because you can't just avoid it.....you have to have an ongoing relationship with food. Period.

BUT.

We don't HAVE to have an ongoing relationship with junk food.

We do not have to eat fast food, processed food, or anything with refined flours or sugar. There are a lot of different opinons on what type of diet is best but it is usually a universal consensus that these things are bad for us and are causing, or at least GREATLY contributing to, the rising rates of obesity and disease.

In the past when I tried to have just a very little of these things that I loved, it was a constant battle to fight the cravings. For me, I found that my cravings have gone down exponentially (not 100% gone but about 80-90% gone!) since I took these things out of my diet completely.

In short, I overcame my "love" of junk food by giving it up comepletely. I still love food and enjoy eating but I find easier to stay on track and concentrate on healthy foods without those other things in the picture.

Every person's journey is different and what works for one may not work for another but I hope that helps at least a little. :)

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Me too LJBRANDOK. I've found ways to have moderate amounts of things and it seems to be working for me.


~Kelly~

"Food is not love, comfort, or an anxiety pill."

Time to stop trying to solve things with food (lack of included) that food won't solve. Food solves one thing: bodily hunger.



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One of the first diet support groups I went to in my teens had a leader who said that it's the first few bites of a food that taste the best-the rest is just more of the same. I've discovered that's really true. I've done really well eating a half or fourth of my favorite foods. I then give or throw the rest away. If I deprive myself, I feel like I'm on a "diet." Eating what I love, in moderation, is a lifestyle change I can live with.



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I love to eat. I don't eat emotionally or if I'm stressed, I only eat when I'm hungry but not the healthiest stuff. I'm in culinary school so I can't avoid eating and tasting, but keeping track of what you eat and be a real eye opener and you can see what you need to change in order to succeed

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It's easy to put on (weight) but it is hard to take off--especially as you get older. Love to eat rabbit food and you should stay trim.



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I sooo hear you. That is why you have to find that balance where you are eating less/healthier but not feeling derived. From personal experience, it's when I've felt like I'm telling myself no all the time while experiencing mean cravings is when I fall off the wagon. I've learned to limit my pantry to only things I really like to eat but that are healthy for me. I also once heard that having go-to meals and being really routine about them (like eating same breakfast and lunch almost every day) makes it easier to not be obsessing about food..I find if I think about food too much I am more prone to make worse decisions. This is a hard battle, for sure, and it's fought at every meal, moment of boredom, drive past fast food, etc....



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I think I may be one of those few people...if I could monetarily afford to (and didn't have such digestive issues with it) I would definitely eat an entire package of good cheese by myself. I've also done such notable things as eat 2lbs of fresh blueberries on the way home with them and usually managed to get the last garden fresh tomato or cucumber to myself as a kid (after eating about a dozen of them). I also love fresh salsa...not quite an addiction but I can put it away...it's the cilantro in it, I'm crazy about cilantro, and I mean eating it with a spoon after making it....


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Time to stop trying to solve things with food (lack of included) that food won't solve. Food solves one thing: bodily hunger.



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The problem isn't the LOVE of food, it is overeating, and choosing poor foods.

We all have foods that when we eat them cause us to want more, and we call this a food we LOVE, but many of us also love to eat, which is a bit different. I enjoy my meals, cooking, and eating.

The difference now, is that I stopped eating the foods that I couldn't do without. I found out I could. They weren't healthy for ME. These foods may vary for you, but they all have one thing in common. They are usually processed sugary carbs. Not many people overeating vegetables, fat, or protein. It is the carbs that have been tampered with.

Once you get rid of these foods, and never feel hungry again.. you will still LOVE to eat. I don't know many people who hate eating. It is associated with friends and family, in social setting where we feel comfortable, and why shouldn't we love it?

The only argument is what is love. Cravings are not love, but a sign of a physiological problem that can be fixed, and allow you to love eating healthier foods.

The real question is, what do you love in particular about eating? I never liked junk food. It was salty, sugary etc, and crunchy, but I never finished a bag of crunchy cheetos and thought, that was the tastiest food I ever ate. I might eat them the very next night again, but not because I loved them. I needed them. If I saw them, I bought them. A cup of raspberries is tastier, and healthier, and I actually love them.

Salt, and sugar cravings disappear in 3-5 weeks with abstinence, and then can be resumed in moderation, with control, if desired. Without salt, no one would actually eat Cheetos..lol. They aren't even a recognizable food. I loved salt and sugar. Find out what you actually love about the unhealthy food, and see if you can get this feeling from healthier foods.



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sounds natural to enjoy food; forget about the head games, and love to eat right



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I don't know how the clinicians, psychologists, etc. define an "addiction" and a "habit", or differentiate between them. Food of some type or another is not an "addiction" that we can just give up, as we need it to live. So, to return to the original question, I think it is more a case of trying to break some existing bad habits and introduce a few new and healthier ones. I still have bad habits (mine tend to involve white wine and diet soda), but I have long since given up on the previous "necessity" of bags of potato crisps and super-duper thick gravy to accompany large portions of red meat. Yes, fine, once in a while -- but my daily fare is more like lean chicken or fish with salad, and bucketloads of fruit and steamed veg. And I have come to the point where I not only enjoy this type of food, but actually crave it: it's a new habit. I still love food, and lust after it, and get hungry; it's just that I now lust after different sorts of food. Developing these new habits and abandoning at least some of your previous ones is not easy, and takes determination and staying power (I personally think that whoever said you can develop a habit in 28 days is bonkers!), but it can be done. Stick with it!



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@Berry4 - do you mean LUST as in the American Pie, warm apple pie scenario? If that's the case, it's okay. There's no calories involved in lusting after food that way :)



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I think some foods are an addiction for some people, it's not unlike alcohol. I'm lucky enough not to struggle with addiction, either cookies or wine, I can take them or leave them, I can enjoy two cookies or one glass and be done. I understand this isn't the case for everyone!


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I agree with you ,some foods are like an addiction,Mine is sweets.I'll eat a cookie and then I want more. so I try to stay away from them, its not easy . just try to say no , I'm trying



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This may seem harsh, but it isn't meant to poke a finger at anyone but me. I find that I LUST after food and making me feel good. That is a SIN. It is also called gluttony.

When I really looked at myself in the mirror, I realized that all my health excuses were just that. Yes, I have "issues", but it is NOT okay to use food as a way to medicate and make myself feel better.

Yes, I do believe food is an addiction for some--me. It's time for me to call it what it is and decide what to do.
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I hope no one tries to make you feel bad. I try really hard not to judge people. It's not my place here, and I don't like it when I get judged. Walk a mile in my shoes.

You took control of your situation the best way for you, and now you are doing really good....and that's all that matters :)

There are so many people here at SP, with different lives, different problems, even different values. I think sometimes the best we can do is respect each other, an learn from our differences.

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Thank you Kaiwhitaker for understanding. I did and still do have food addictions and I have a hard time with people not understanding that. I never did a single drug nor did I ever drink to excess, and I don't like excuses either BUT I recognize that food addictions are harder for some people than others. Even more so because for a while they don't seem to do much damage. You have a good job and a great family and you're bright and you can recite all the ins and outs of every diet on the planet. You know what you have to do, yet eating tastes so good and it's socially acceptable and often encouraged. And so there I sat 35 years old at 4'11" 220 lbs with blood sugars in the 420s. Now I'm thin and people encourage me to have more, oh try this cookie, you're skinny. I'm skinny because I spent $20,000 to have my stomach reduced to the size of an egg. I work out 6 days a week and I track my foods. Please no one get on their high horse and tell me food is not an addiction. Just because you don't crave it doesn't mean it's not real.

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I definitely do not think I have a food addiction (except for caffeine). As far as store bought sweets go...I find them lackluster. I bake when I want something and still sweets don't overly excite me. I'm more excited about really good cheese or fresh salsa (which aren't addictive to anyone, just plain yummy). I love to eat but only certain things, I am picky to some extent and I'm ok with that.


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One thing to think about is the example you're showing to your precious children. If they grow up seeing you eat to excess, eating junk food, etc., they will think that's normal. Do you want your children growing up obese? or with food issues? Probably not.

In teaching your kids how to eat healthily, you can change your own habits. You don't have to give up everything, but you need to learn how to prioritize. What is more important to you, eating a big piece of chocolate cake, or being able to run around and play with your kids?

Can you take them on walks without getting winded? Can you play tag or catch or hide & seek with them, without panting or feeling weak?

Can you look in the mirror now and say "that's what I want my kids to look like when they grow up?" That might sound harsh, but I believe in facing reality. You won't change unless you want to - and you need to find the trigger that makes you want to change.

We don't want to spoil our kids, so we set limits on their TV watching, what they eat, whom they can play with, etc. Even though they are pressured from the outside world to want the latest toy, or sugary cereal, or junk snacks - you as the parent have to teach them what is best for them. So, for an afternoon snack, do you give them fruit or candy? I'm not saying eliminate all goodies from your life, but you need to decide when and how often to eat them.

If you can do that with your kids, you should be able to do that with yourself.


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@ FRANCEENAFTER I don't know why anyone would (or should) be "upset" with you for how you chose to get your health to point you could live a happier life. Everyone has their journey and no two are the same. I'm proud of you because you still found the wisdom to do what it takes to maintain your healthy eating habits. You yourself stated even after surgery the issues you went into with are still there. My hat off to you for making the changes and choices you made to improve your life!

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Russell, you did actually -- "There are two ways to look at this. One is that it is not the fault of the dieters. The food we eat causes us to eat more food. Ahem, sugar. Plus many other forms of carbs. This is simply the body working correctly, and the people selling food using this knowledge." Here is my take -- Atkins is NOT the answer. Sugar is NOT evil. Food is NOT the enemy.

ACTUALLY I DID NOT.. lol. You obviously need to take a course in reading comprehension.

I never recommended low carb or Atkins, or getting rid of a bunch carbs, and your "proof" that I did shows that you struggle with the English language.

Yes, I said sugar is bad, but sugar is not "carbs ", it is 1 type of carbs, and one that for most of human history, did not exist, and has only increased in the last century, along with cancer, and heart disease. I did not suggest abstaining from sugar, or any other carbs that are trigger foods, but recommended identifying those, and limiting them.

That would still allow you to eat 90 % of carbs. Which carbs you would limit would be an individual thing. You could still eat a large quantity of carbs, just better quality ones.

It really is sad, when you imply things about a post that weren't actually said. You obviously know about my personal path to health, and just decided that what I was suggesting, despite that it had nothing to do with what I actually posted.

The idea of sugar being something you should limit, as well as the existence of trigger foods, is not even a controversial topic. You can find articles about both from SP.

I personally chose to do Atkins, because it was easier to just cut a bunch of carbs, and make sure I got all my triggers, and I had a lot of health concerns that made it necessary to get results NOW. As a diabetic I struggled with low blood sugars, until being removed from my meds. Now I am having to add carbs back in. The average person can just make switches to the types of carbs they eat, and not have to do anything so drastic.

This switch of the types of carbs I eat allows me to eat around 2300 calories a day, with food I LOVE, and lose easily. Results might be slower for a person eating a lot more carbs, but most people don't need to lose quickly, or as much weight overall. The only real thing that changed in my diet, was the types of carbs I eat. I actually eat about 500 calories more a day, but I avoid binges of 5000-8000 1-2 X a week.

This was caused by the food I ate, not lack of willpower. I don't ever feel any cravings/hunger, which seems to be common on a low fat diet. Then when people eat because they feel hungry, you call them weak.

By simply switching off of sugar, and whatever carbs are your trigger foods, you can eat plenty of wonderful carbs, without hunger/cravings ( which are NOT normal ), and control what you eat. I did it, and I didn't have to learn how to trick myself into not eating when I was hungry.

I loved food then, and I love food now. I just eat food that does not cause me to binge due to how it affects me. Do I eat less carbs than a normal American eats? YES. Am I advocating that everyone switch to Atkins? NO. What I personally do, and what I suggest are not always the same, which you would have noticed, if you had read what I actually said.





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If one truly loves food, one does not abuse it or herself by eating too much. She doesn't choose food that is not deserving of her, if she really loves food.

We have the need to eat, so we all like to eat.

We were all born with the instinct to eat until full. Between birth and adulthood we fall into so many habits. Some of them involve eating to soothe over little hurts in our life. Some of it is our parents, with good intentions, coaxing us to be good and clean our plate. There doesn't have to be a big trauma that causes us to try and ignore our feelings by medicating with food,

Feel your feelings instead of eating them.


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Maybe this will upset people, but I lost my weight through gastric bypass. I paid for every penny of it by myself to save my life. I survived cancer for 13 years (never lost a pound from chemo or radiation) and then was told by my doctor that I would lose a limb or be on dialysis because of my horrid diabetes so I did the drastic deed. It taught me a lot about myself. I too had no "traumatic event" and I was lazy and loved to eat. GBP slowed me down on eating and bad foods (sugar and fat) made me sooooo sick. What a Godsend that was! I found out that eventually that sickness crutch goes away and you still have the issues you went into surgery with. But the funny thing is that I still eat slowly and don't drink fluids with meals to wash down the partially chewed giant amount of food. When you do those two things, food from fast food places really doesn't taste good anymore. I can't tell you how many times in the last five years, I have bought a combo meal and have thrown away half of it because of how bad it tasted cold and congealed. Real food (home cooked) doesn't do that to me. The surgery gave me the ability to feel full for the first time in my life, but I still have to recognize that feeling and what good food is for the years afterwards. For those of you who are doing this the way I wish I could have done it (without surgery), my hats off to you!

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I am there. I eat when I am happy, I eat when I am sad, I eat when I am stressed and when I am bored. I just eat! So I am currently tracking everything that I eat in a hope and a prayer that I stop this nonsense. Fingers crossed.
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I just like to keep my tongue happy ;) . seriously though I try to shift my food thought from the tongue to the tummy. the tummy doesn't care the flavor only the nutrition.

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if it's food then I'm pretty much gonna eat it ..... there are a few foods I detest, but sadly not many. I simply love the sheer variety of colors, textures, smells, and flavors that foods by themselves or cooked in some way provide. restraint? what is that? ...seriously

I don't blame anyone (myself included) but foods "call" to me. yep ... I already know what I need to do ... which is actually MORE than merely cutting back on food and increasing exercise. I need to figure out this whole addiction thing.

a lot of people would say that this addiction is just a craving based on sugars but really, it isn't simply because protein and fat don't have sugars & I'm just as inclined to eat more of those as I am to consume carbs.

eventually, I will get this figured out & be able to deal with it successfully ~ it's just taken far longer than I thought it would.

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I get up in arms about the low carb thing because there are people who think it's good for EVERYBODY and it is not. Like I said, for me it just does not work and it makes me miserable to boot. I already struggle with anxiety, I do not need extra misery. I find I need MORE carbs than some folks. I'm at my best eating lots of whole grains and fruit. I have energy to exercise and to get on with life in general.


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Probably. I don't think I gained because of a type of food but because of just plain eating when I wasn't hungry a lot (partly as a reaction to severe deprivation...I had an eating disorder in my teens and early twenties) and being avoidant when it comes to exercise (easy to do when you have joint problems). Just limiting eating to mostly when I'm hungry and trying to walk a little more has made a big difference for me.


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Ha ha - for reason the subject of carbs really touches peoples nerves!!

You actually might not lose any faster avoiding them. You are probably the type that carbs don't affect negatively. They way you felt when excluding them out is how I feel on them.

I've told this before: I've a friend for over 20 years - size 4 always, no exercise. Thin. I mimicked her diet for a week (high in carbs - particularly refined flour - pasta, white bread, etc.). I gained 5 pounds. They do don't affect her like they do to me.



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All bodies ARE different to some extent. At least I think so. I couldn't manage low-carb at all. I was tired, cranky, and despondent. I lose fine while eating them. Maybe I'd lose faster on fewer but frankly I don't care, I'm not going for fast, I'm going for maintainable.


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Certain foods are off limit to me. Processed flour (white breads, pasta, etc.) for some reason affect my body negatively, I end up eating more, and holding on to that weight longer. The same with foods high in sugar.

It's not the foods fault, its a realization of how my body works with those foods.

I feel that every single person is different, as are people's reactions to different foods.






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I don't believe that any food needs to be off limits, as long as you are realistic about your expectations for weight loss. If you realize that if you want to eat high calorie foods, you need to make up for it somewhere. Either through not eating something else you enjoy, or exercising, or lowering your weight loss goals. Everyone has a different strategy for losing weight, it's all about setting personal priorities.



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There's a whole universe of opinion that lies between "all sugar is evil" and "Oreos can be a regular and significant part of a healthy diet", and I think most of us actually live there, despite the impression that might be conveyed by the turn this thread has taken. Similarly, there is a whole nice middle ground between blaming the food industry for all your problems and never leaving the path between couch and refrigerator as a result; and trying to bury your head in the sand and claim they have nothing to do with it, it's just the country as a whole has unaccountably grown to be fat slobs over the last 20 years. You know? The rhetoric doesn't have to be this hot.

Personally I only wish I could convince people the whole "diet" business doesn't have to be a mess of arcane complications and contradictory experts and competing diet plans and who knows what else. Losing weight isn't easy, but it doesn't need to be complicated. But neither do I believe in trying to happy-talk people into thinking they're very likely to be comfortable while losing weight or to maintain it very long if they try to maintain their junk food habit the whole time. You know? The body has limits. For me, I'll have a 100-odd calorie square of my mother-in-law's banana cake every few days or a couple hundred calories' worth of (this deep-fried chickpea-flour crunchy stuff she also makes and which I can't spell) once or twice a week while it lasts, and that's been working great for me. But I haven't had a muffin in a year -- 500-800 calorie bombs of subpar oversweet baked goods are not on the menu anymore and I've yet to find a compelling reason to change that.

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Russell, you did actually -- "There are two ways to look at this. One is that it is not the fault of the dieters. The food we eat causes us to eat more food. Ahem, sugar. Plus many other forms of carbs. This is simply the body working correctly, and the people selling food using this knowledge." Here is my take -- Atkins is NOT the answer. Sugar is NOT evil. Food is NOT the enemy.

Eat food. Supply your body with adequate fuel to live. Don't eliminate food groups. If you like food, eat it. Exercise for health. End of story. Move on. Don't overthink it.

Eat.The.Food.

So many want to lay blame everywhere else. Why not blame the food producers like Russell said? Personal accountability -- what is that? (sarcasm) We can sue McDonalds for our coffee being too hot, we can blame Oreos for "being as addictive as cocaine" why not hide behind food too.

chillax. Eat the food. Enjoy your life.

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SONOFCZAR - The problem is, I am not talking about candy. I am talking about real food that you eat every day, because you are told it is healthy. You eat it, and get cravings, but of course, it couldn't be the food that everyone says is healthy.

MAMA2OURKIDDOS - No one said carbs were evil, so I don't understand where you read that. I'll leave it at that.

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I'm with you MAMA2OURKIDDOS. All the way. Carbs are not evil. They are food. Food is fuel and it tastes good.


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And then there's the Ratatouille approach - "If I don't love it, I don't swallow." Cultivate your love of food and REALLY make it work in your favor, lol.



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Chef Jacques Pepin and the Late Julia Childs both loved to eat, but they knew to have food TASTE good and to enjoy small portions.



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Rusell, what if I told you carbs are not evil? I will leave at that.

Sonofczar, you totally got it. I agree with you 100%

So many people enter the land of diets and food becomes enemy number one. We get taught not to trust ourselves or food. Sugar is evil, carbs are evil, anything processed is evil.

It is complete and total BS. I know because I have been there! I have been down the rabbit hole of orthorexia and undereating and not trusting my body or foods.

If you love to eat, than eat. A perfect quote from Go Kaleo says this:
"Should you eat that food? Two questions to ask yourself:

1. Do you like it?
-yes: include it in your diet
-no: you don't have to eat it

2. Does it support your goals?
-yes: eat it more often
-no: eat it less often (but for God's sake, don't eliminate it if you enjoy it!)"

I think that pretty much says it all right there.

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Russell, your logic is flawed. If the person is the problem, it isn't unsolvable. Humans are rational creatures, and have free will, therefore they have to ability to determine right from wrong, and make proper choices. If a 2 year old was given free reign to eat what they want and ate nothing but candy, that's understandable, they don't know any better. Adults do. That is why generally speaking, people start to eat better as they get older. At 34, I eat much better than I did when I was 18. Not only because my metabolism is slowing down, but I realize I'm not invincible and can't eat fast food all day every day. I definitely think people have weaknesses, but that doesn't mean they can't change. You can't blame junk food, an inanimate object for you eating it. Unless it jumped up and forced itself into your mouth. Food doesn't change, your attitude and reasoning skills do.



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That is just what I told my NP nutrition adviser the first time we met. She told me that I could learn to love to eat foods that don't wage war with my body! I thought that was a pretty good answer. I know she is right.

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I just tell myself that I've already tried it, and it's good, no need to have it again if I already know what it tastes like even if I want to eat it.

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There are two ways to look at this. One is that it is not the fault of the dieters. The food we eat causes us to eat more food. Ahem, sugar. Plus many other forms of carbs. This is simply the body working correctly, and the people selling food using this knowledge.

As you eat high glycemic foods ( carbs ), you glucose rises, and Insulin is released. This drop glucose levels. This is natural, and necessary. The more glucose you intake, the more Insulin is released. The quicker your blood sugars are dropped. If I want you to eat more, I add ingredients that raise the glycemic index of my product. You eat this sugary concoction, and glucose soars to 130( unless diabetic, then higher ). You feel full, and then Insulin starts working. Your body is flooded with it now, frantically trying to get the glucose to where it needs to be. Some for immediate use, some for imminent use ( glycogen ), and the rest stored as triglyceride ( bodyfat ). While you think " Did I just gain a lb? ", Insulin is removing your glucose, and it is falling quickly. As it nears 70, you again feel hungry, and want to eat again.

This is not because they want to kill you, but because they want to sell more food. The problem is, they are all greedy, and have altered the food we eat. So, this isn't an " excuse ", but a very likely reason. Only a very trusting person would think that the very recent rise in obesity, heart disease, and cancer, weren't caused by the changes we have seen to our food.

The opposite theory is that food is the same as it was, and the reason we overeat in these past 2 generations, are eating entirely different than the past 100 generations, is because we are personally weak. It is our fault, and if we could just stop being such a fat, lazy person, who stuffs our face, while knowing it will kill us, we could all be fit. This is blaming the people who have been affected. If you want to do this, I just have two questions... Why did we choose to overeat? and why do we have less willpower than the past 100 generations?

I just ate lunch, and it was chicken, olive oil, zucchini, and tomatoes in a stir fry. About 800 calories, which is probably more than I would have eaten before I started losing weight. The only difference is that I am not hungry, due to not eating foods that spike my blood sugars. At least not in large enough quantities to cause the reaction I just explained. I can love the food I eat, without eating poor food choices, because I am not hungry. This gives me control. If I ate foods that caused my blood sugar to spike, I would go on a 5000-8000 calorie binge. Would I be a different person then, or have less willpower. I am no different at 191 than i was at 361. I am the same person.. so what changed? The food did.

People are not to blame.. they are hungry all the time, and hungry people EAT. Of course they eat their favorite foods. When I am hungry, I don't think, where is the spinach! No, I would probably crave macaroni and cheese, and Pepsi. The trick is not being hungry, which is something we have come to accept as normal in our society. We eat 3-6 times a day, yet feel hunger, while overeating. Even if you call it cravings, how do you explain it? If anything, we should feel stuffed. Do you believe that people aren't actually hungry? If they are, then that is the problem. Why are they hungry?

Answering that last question, and finding a solution, is the answer, not blaming them, and telling them they are just weaker individuals than healthy people. The food manufacturers will continue to manipulate your foods. They are in business to make profit. We just need to understand that this is the problem, and make some changes. Once we get rid of hunger/cravings, we can make rational choices about what foods we should eat. Right now we are making these choices while feeling hunger/cravings, and in that state we don't make good choices.

If the person is the problem, then it is unsolvable. They are defective, and can't get any better. If it is the food, they can find a diet that works, like I did, and lose weight, improve health, and get control back. These same people whom you have dismissed as unable to control themselves find that they can control themselves just fine, and LOVE the food they eat. They just learn to love different foods, which takes only about 3-4 weeks. We adapt very quickly.

"We can't solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them "

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I maintain working out 4 ttimes per week & maintain at about 1500 a day-

Final weight goal of 140 pounds & maintain my fitness with excellent blood sugar management.


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It is possible to love food without idolizing it. Don't make it the center of your life...as previous writers below said, enjoy the high quality food - no chemical-filled, artificial stuff - and you will be more selective in what goes into your body. Good luck!

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My two cents: If you love food, embrace it! Use that to your advantage! But start treating your tastebuds to higher quality foods. Eventually the junk doesn't even seem appealing, because you know how good real things are, and all that junk just starts to seem disgusting.

An example I once read somewhere on the internet: imagine you are at a party and the hostess brings out a cake. It is the most delicious cake - moist, chocolatey, frosted - everyone loves it, and you are happy because it is such a tasty cake. But then - then you find out the "special ingredient" in the cake is pee. Yes, someone peed in the cake batter. Suddenly that tasty cake has lost all of its appeal! It's still the same tasty cake that it was when you were enjoying it, you know how good it tastes, but you find the thought of eating it repulsive.

IMHO, that's what happens with junk food when you start getting used to higher quality foods. Junk food suddenly seems as unappealing as the pee-cake, and you start to crave the real deal. And I don't think anyone here would scoff at loving to eat real foods. :)

(Hope that wasn't too gross!)

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"Giving people an excuse for their shortcomings, which we all have, doesn't help anyone."

It absolutely can, if it allows a person to let go of the guilt and shame that are crushing them into non-action; and if it allows them to think honestly about the foods and behaviors that might trigger unwanted eating and about how to cope with those triggers. After all, people break addictions every day, and usually by use of techniques that can be applied pretty well to weight loss (avoidance of triggers, for example). And nobody ever improved their lives permanently by hating themselves. You have to let go of that somehow, and if calling your current condition not entirely your fault is the means to get there than I am all for that.

There's this idea that somehow there can be no personal responsibility or positive change without metaphorically bludgeoning yourself over the head for your every flaw; it's not true. Generally people who are in bad situations with food beat themselves up TOO much. It's useless to do so. It doesn't help.

Edit: I lost weight myself only when I let all of the self-hate for it go. I had strong motivations otherwise, but that one thing was so important. I treated myself like I feel now, like someone who'd never been overweight, and who doesn't indulge in junk food often because she just plain doesnt' want it. Eventually my belief became reality.

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I love the sugar rush of of a chilled thickly iced creme filled chocolate cupcake with sprinkles

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Oh that's one thing I miss, having a garden. There is nothing like the feeling of planting and nurturing your own food to enjoy. Plus you know exactly what was used on it and who handled it!!!

I've no garden right now..and I'm on a huge cauliflower kick...how I'd love to be able to grow my own cauliflower next year :(

Oh well, maybe the year afterwards...

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I really love food, too. I love to cook, I love to eat, etc. One thing that has helped me it to learn to love vegetables. I spend time growing them and learning to cook them in new and interesting ways. It's so satisfying to have a big plate full of gorgeous, colorful food that I can eat with relish!

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I go through spells of loving a certain food and crave it everyday afterward. It's like an addiction for a week or so. Then do it the next week with a different food. Like one week craved salads like crazy. The next week craved chocolate like crazy.



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Here is my take. Yes it is opinion and RN experienced observations, but here it is:
I have seen many alcoholics who drink tons of coffee, it is there way and there "replacement". I have also seen many a drug addict fill the void with tattoos, extreme sports or food. I call this the addictive personality when I speak to patients about it. It is not a nursing diagnosis, just observations. Observations that allow for those who give a rip about being overweight because of a cardiac history in the family to aim toward working out and healthy eating as their addiction verses comfort food. Just my viewpoint. And by the way I just plain love to eat, food tastes good and feeds my need to fill the void after I quit smoking because I cannot chew gum.



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I have actually known a few people in my life who really don't like to eat. I find that very sad. I love to eat and I have not "given up" anything, just made adjustments. I must admit that I never got into the habit of drinking soda drinks: I rarely crave sweets; and I "forbade" my car to drive through fast food places. Other than that, I have learned portion control and am still working on that. Life is too short not to enjoy good food and drink.in moderation.

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I am actually inclined to agree with Sonofczar. I think that too many people are too quick to blame things. Ahem, sugar. I am sure we've all seen the absolutely asanine article on oreos being as addictive as cocaine. I grew up in a house that had two addicted parents to alcohol and drugs. I have seen what REAL addiction can do to people. Blaming sugar (or any other food for that matter) is hiding behind a bigger problem. Just like alcohol/drugs, alcohol/drugs are only a mere symptom of an overall bigger problem. We live in a society that likes to place blame elsewhere, we're suing fast food for our expanding waistlines. Wait, WHAT? How does THAT happen? It really boils down to personal accountability and a healthy lifestyle. Eat, move, get plenty of sleep (a very big neglected area for many) and enjoy life. If you love to eat, then eat. Just make it in a way that is healthy to your lifestyle and activity level.

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I'm not saying that people don't crave certain foods, we all do, and they are usually the ones that are bad for us. My problem with the wording is that it gives people excuses. Just like the AMA now calling obesity a "disease" gives people an excuse. Being able to say "I'm 400 lbs because I have a disease" is ridiculous. Stuffing your face with garbage caused it, not a disease. We live in an age where it is so easy to label everything, people don't need accountability anymore. If you are fat, it's a disease, if you can't stop eating, it's an addiction, if your kid doesn't listen to you, its ADHD, there is no accountability at all. Giving people an excuse for their shortcomings, which we all have, doesn't help anyone.



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With all respect SONOFCZAR I have to disagree about the addiction thing. I do agree with you that some people do use the term addiction where it does not belong where compulsion might be a better term.. That being said addiction to food particularly sugar does fit the clinical definition of physical addiction for some.

Echoing what JMOUSE99 said that does not remove personal responsibility AA the original twelve step program required people to be responsible making one of the steps making amends to those they have harmed.

In the case of sugar, only abstinence from it can ensure not eating it if you don't want it. I have seen the effects for 40 years of trying to eat everything in moderation. Personally if I eat sugar I may binge or I may not binge. This is true of alcoholics and drug addicts as well. Of course binging on food is not nearly as destructive in the short term as drugs or alcohol but in the long term can be just as dangerous just not usually in the short term.

We are all different. Some people become obese because of this dependence or emotion triggers and some don't. I do believe though that more morbidly obese people get there because of dependence and emotional triggers than people who just like to eat. That of course is my personal observation and not intended to be any kind of scientific observation.

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Call it what you want, people still have free will. If you don't want to eat it, you aren't going to.



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SONOFCZAR, just wanted to mention that it is totally possible to be addicted to something but still take ownership of your actions. It helps a lot of people fight their addictions in fact, and I am a case in point.

I also believe it's entirely possible to be addicted to certain types of food - sugar springs to mind. You crave it and you have withdrawal symptoms when you stop. If you start eating it again the whole cycle starts up again. Sounds like an addiction to me.

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I have to say, all this crap about being a "food addict" is ridiculous. People can be addicted to everyone these days, and it's used to justify behaviour. Could I eat take out burgers, and ice cream all day every day? Absolutely! But I also believe that most people are rational and can realize that they are going to be huge and unhealthy if they do this. If you want to eat garbage all the time, that is your choice, just don't think you will be a 100 lb super model if you do. It's all about choices, you either want to lose weight or eat crap, it's up to you. That's the thing about free will, you always have that choice, you just have to choose what's more important to you.

I hear this addiction thing all day every day (I work in a jail), "I had to rob that store for drug money, I have an addiction", "I didn't mean to stab that guy, I was drunk, I have an addiction", You always have a choice, and need to hold yourself accountable for your actions. Once you realize this, it will be easier to weigh the pros and cons of your decisions. Do I still eat garbage? Of course! Do I realize that I will need to work harder the next few days? For sure, but sometimes that trade of is worth it to me.



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Engineer mom has it! Woot woot!!!! Also if you're interested in some serious common sense ways of eating check out Go Kaleo's blog. (just google Go Kaleo) she is awesome!

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"I've said it too, "Its not like being an alcoholic. I can't remove food altogether." Well, an alcoholic can't really remove alcohol either. There's always a way to get it even if its not in the house."

The difference is, you can stop drinking entirely, but you cannot stop eating entirely. I have given up drinking for 6 month periods at various points in my life, but can you imagine giving up food for 6 months?

If you have formed the habit of checking on every new diet that comes along, you will find that, mercifully, they all blur together, leaving you with only one definite piece of information: french-fried potatoes are out. ~~Jean Kerr

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Really good questions WHOVIANGRL!

I've said it too, "Its not like being an alcoholic. I can't remove food altogether." Well, an alcoholic can't really remove alcohol either. There's always a way to get it even if its not in the house.

How do you overcome love of junk food? Accept that its always going to be there but you don't have to eat it. Love yourself. Be honest like you are being here, and fight. There's no easy answer but to try every day, learn every day, make mistakes and get back on track. See the humor, work hard! If it was easy we'd all be thin!

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I call it the See Food Diet...see food? Eat it.

I get frustrated because, as you say, people talk about cravings, stress eating, staying full, etc. None of that matters...I just eat it because I want it. Period.

What helped me was the question "What is your Why?" Meaning Why you want to lose weight. This has to be personal and important to YOU and no one else. Medical conditions, looking better in clothes, feeling better about yourself are all well and good, but if they don't motivate YOU these reasons aren't good enough.

Dig deep and find the primary reason you want to do this...the one YOU are passionate about. Then remind yourself of your Why every chance you get. I put pictures in my gym to motivate me when I workout, and on the fridge to make me stop before I ever open it.

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