DPRYER - Your results are typical. I started low carb 4.5 years ago, and within 1 year at 20 grams a day, I went from 2000 mg of Metformin a day to 0. I have been off all diabetes meds for 3.5 years, and my A1 C hovers between 5.1-5.4, even though I still eat some foods that I shouldn't. I stick to the diet 95% of the time though.
The diabetic diet can work for some people I am guessing, but did not work for me, and as far as I can tell, doesn't work for a majority of diabetic. If you don't know many diabetics, join a team, and talk to them. Most are suffering from high blood sugars, and numbers that vary wildly, not steady, low numbers.
Success has been defined as getting below a 7.0 A1C. Normal is 4.2-4.6. Shouldn't success be getting as close to normal as possible? I am .5-1.0 above normal, but 7.0 is still extremely high, and doing damage to your body. Plus, it requires you to stay on pills, which is not a success at all.
Maybe the diabetic diet would be good if we started at birth on it, but as a response to decades on a high carb diet, it is not enough for many. We cut carbs immediately upon finding that a person is diabetic, and then when we find that it helps but doesn't get us off pills, the next step is to just continue with 150 grams a day.
If cutting carbs improved blood sugars, then cutting them again should do it even more. At the very least, we ought to test this theory.
If I have 150 grams on a carbohydrate diet, at 2000 calories, that is 30 % carbs, down from 50 %. At the same time, we are told to stick to under 30 % fat. That leaves 40 % protein, if we don't think fat is bad, and eat 20 %. This leads to either 2 things. 1 ) we eat extra protein, and when we burn through our carbs, we convert protein to glucose, and still have high blood sugars, or 2 ) we can't stomach more than 30 % protein, so we add the extra 10 % to either fat, or carbs.
Since we are all deathly afraid of fat, it most likely goes to carbs...40 % fat would probably be more effective, but I doubt most people do that. So we are eating 200 grams of carbs, not 150, and wondering why our blood sugars are still high.
These problems ( metabolic syndrome symptoms ), were considered to be the problem of the rich in the 16th, and 17th centuries. As we moved into the 20th century, colas, sugar, and refined grains became more readily available. We started seeing increases in these problems, first in cities. Poor farmers, had to eat the meat they raised, and the vegetables, and cheese they had available. They didn't have the problems that the rich, and the city-folk had.
Today, we have moved to a mostly suburban lifestyle, with groceries on every corner. We have switched to low fat in the 70's, and now our food is low fat, with extra sugar, and salt to make it edible. HFCS in the 60's. From 1890-1977, we made several disastrous changes to our diet.
Since making these changes, we have gotten sicker decade, by decade, and our response is to double down on our diet, and blame the victims. It seems simple to just look at what changed in the last 100 years, and reverse it. That may be wrong, but I doubt it. The idea that we can't even consider it though, should make people stop, and scratch their head.
We made a change, and sickness went up, but we can't even test that reversing the change, might reverse the sickness? Hmmm!
Luckily, today we have social media, and better communication methods, so we can share experiences, and ideas. Low carb has been around forever, but as an opposing diet to low fat since it began. Atkins started even earlier, in the 60's, and others even earlier, since they saw the looming crisis.
We can talk to other diabetics, and when we see someone who is off meds, and has stable, normal blood sugars, we can ask " How did you do it? ". Some succeed on the diabetic diet, but for most who have blood sugars over 200, and fixed the problem, you find that they cut carbs much lower than the diabetic diet, and would consider themselves to be eating a low carb diet.
If the diabetic diet had a success rate of 95 %, then I would understand the reticence of doctors to prescribe low carb to anyone. Given the poor track record of the diet though, I would think that doctors would be looking at almost any other diet to help their patients.
At what point do you admit that the diabetic diet isn't working? Should the next step be pills, or Insulin, or a better diet, that actually fixes your blood sugars?
I believe that most Type 2 diabetics are that way because of the sugar, and processed foods in our diet, and from out fear of fat, which causes us to eat more carbs overall. That if diabetics cut their carbs down, and eat low glycemic ones when they partake of them, that we could get rid of 75 % of the diabetics. We could also get rid of the obesity epidemic, and cancer, and heart disease at the levels they have climbed to.
At the very least, we should test it, find out if what Peter Attia says is true. I know it has worked exactly the way he said for me. Almost nothing my doctors said worked the way they said it would. So you have to ask yourself.. do results matter? Do you have a goal? Is it the same as your doctors? Have you asked your doctor, and seen if you have the same goals? Have you reached those goals, or shown appreciable gains towards it?
If your doctors goal is a 7.0 A1C, being on pills and Insulin, and eventual amputation, blindness or kidney failure ( but much later on ), is that success? Are you okay with that?
Birgit and I are just 2 examples of people who are below 6.0 A1C, which is rare for diabetics. There are others on the low carb diet teams who have almost identical results.It isn't blind luck. We got results, and we should at least ask why, and if the results are able to be replicated.
If a dietary change fixes these problems, then maybe we did this to ourselves, and caused these problems. We should be more worried about solving these recent problems, instead of worrying that they won't be solved by following what we told people was healthy.
If low carb is reversing the effects of diabetics, then it could be effective in treatment for all diabetics, and more importantly, keep people from becoming diabetic, or obese in the first place. For the ones who are healthy, on low fat, vegetarian/vegan, or a diabetic diet, I am happy for them. Enjoy. This isn't a battle of which diet is best, but of how we improve the health of people individually.
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