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11/17/13 11:53 P

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Thank you. I think that might be the case. Now that I've lost the weight I might need to focus more on taking care of myself and thinking more positive.

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11/16/13 9:20 A

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I think focusing on eating Real Whole Quality Food is much more important than worrying about quantity because when you are eating a diet that is mostly vegetables, meat, fats and fruit (the most nutrient dense foods you can eat) quantity will naturally work itself out.

Just cut out the crap "food" products and you'll do great!

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It might be time to forget about calories and focus on nutrition. If you are not eating junk food, then hitting your targets for nutrients like protein, healthy fats, fiber, calcium, and one or two other nutrients that are important to you will also mean you're getting enough calories. That's why there is a lower limit in the first place; that's the smallest amount of food that a person of a particular size needs in order to be properly nourished. If you focus on getting enough nutrients, the calories will happen automatically.



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11/15/13 6:14 P

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Thank you very much for the advice. I realize that this is going to be a mixture of trial and error - especially since I can't remember the last time I paid much attention to maintaining my weight. It definitely had to be some time around when I was in grammar school so yes it has been a while. I suppose I do have to go through testing and observing before I find what will end up working for me. I will still try with the little meals and I will keep the late-night snack in mind if needed!

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if you find yourself over, don't pay attention to what puts you over in as much as what makes up your total diet. in other words is the stuffed pepper really the food you should be focusing on not bothering with? it seems like so many people get hung up on the healthy food that pushes them over rather than noting that they might want to have skipped the donut earlier in the day. so don't worry if it is something healthy that puts you over. evaluate the whole day and try to figure out if there was something else that you should have cut. if it keeps happening try and identify if you're eating a certain food that just doesn't fill you up, and if that's the case, start eating something else instead. the more often it happens, the more you need to work out a solution. but as others have commented if it's not everyday and it's the sort of amount that can easily balanced out on a weekly basis, the one offs aren't worth the worry.

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I just went right back to eating fast foods, and high carb pop, and snacks.

You don't want to gain back the weight either, but need to find a level you are happy at. If 116 is making you look anorexic to your friends, have they ever said " You looked great at 130 " ? Next time they say something, ask at what time did you look healthy. You need to bump up your overall calories, but not too much. Don't eat anything different than you did to lose the weight, just eat more of it.

Even if you don't feel hungry, you should try eating something, even if it is just a fiber bar, or a handful of nuts. Having a huge dinner might not be an issue, but not having any nutrients all day long, might have some side effects to your health if you do that for years.

Do what you can, and just try to hit a happy medium. It will probably happen after some trial-and-error, but be patient, and just think of food as fuel, and get as much as you can at breakfast, and lunch, and then if the rest s at night, that's just the way it is.

If you are up at night..late. You might want to eat a dinner, and then a late night meal also, and then just have a light brunch during the day of whatever feels okay. I sometimes split my dinner, and have some at 10 p.m., and more at 2 a.m., if it is big, or if I plan to be up to 4-5. Then I just eat breakfast at 10-11 the next morning.

The problem is not when you eat. You can eat at 2 p.m., 8 p.m., and 2 a.m., and not be any different than a person who eats their meals between 8 a.m., and 8 p.m., Some of us are just night people. What matters is if you eat a huge meal only once a day. Going 23 hours without food on a regular basis, is the problem. The " regular " person goes 12 hours without eating too. I tend to eat at 8 a.m., lunch at 4 p.m.,and my last meal around midnight.Eating every 8 hours, just seems to work for me.






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11/14/13 9:53 P

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Than you two for the advice. Unfortunately I'm beginning to notice that most of my activity occurs at night time. I don't know why but during the day I just don't have that much of an urge to eat despite my stomach growling and telling me to consume food. I never thought that working on trying to maintain my body would be this difficult. I've been obese most of my life and never worried about it until now. Before I would just pull up to whatever fast food place, order, eat, and then not care much. RUSSELL, when you gained the weight back, what was it from if you don't mind me asking? Like did you stop counting calories or was it by the foods you ate?

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At least you are eating enough food now. Over time, you can split the calories up in a better manner, but for now the focus is getting enough nutrients.

When I was 18, I graduated and was 317 lbs. I started eating 1 meal a week of fruit, and cottage cheese, and got down to 183 in 3 months. By then I couldn't eat very much, and had to build up over time. Then I did the reverse, and got back up to 361, with bingeing. So now I am working on getting 1850 calories a day, in 3 meals, evenly spaced out.

So I understand eating problems.

Try eating some of your calories during the day. The stuffed pepper is a good first step. Try eating a lunch, and then your dinner, and get that to be a habit. Then you can work on breakfast. One thing to consider, is that after a 1500 calories supper, you may not be eating breakfast due to still feeling full, because you ARE..lol. I know when i would binge, I wouldn't eat breakfast till 10 am, because I felt horrible, and bloated. I would eat breakfast at first break, lunch at lunch ( 2 hrs later ), then dinner, and have a binge at 2 a.m.

Hope you work things out, and you find a balance. Just keep working at it.

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Dear 'BH'
I often eat weirdly too. If I'm really busy, I often forget to eat! So, although I don't think that's an eating disorder, I agree with you, it isn't a great idea. Here's the thing, if you are really hungry, listen to your body. Maybe you have a calorie deficit from the day before or something. Drink a glass of water and if you are still hungry in 20 minutes, eat. The cucumbers would have solved the problem temporarily, due to bulk, but long run, if you needed food, they wouldn't have been very useful all by themselves. I think the whole idea of Spark is to learn new habits which I'm sure applies to eating disorders too. It's not about that one pepper, it's about not sitting down and eating all 4 of them at one sitting just because you can. (In theory, at least emoticon I'm trying to learn to eat little things all during the day. In the past, I probably would have had a large latte in the morning and then nothing until dinner. At dinner, I didn't so much overeat as I did tell myself, "well, I haven't eaten all day so I can eat this meal and have cheesecake for dessert", or whatever. Even if what I ate wasn't insane, The things I did like butter and sour cream on my potato and the cheesecake etc. shot my calorie budget. Often, I probably was only over by 200 or 300 calories, but everyday... I did some math early in this journey of mine and figured out that even gaining 1/10 of a pound a week adds up to 5.2 pounds a year. No real big deal if you realize that and get rid of it after that year, right? But, if you ignore it, like I did for twenty years or more, guess what? You have 100 or more pounds you don't want. Actually, thank God I didn't do that everyday or I'd have more than 99 pounds to get rid of! 350 Calories =1/10 of a pound so you can see how easily little indiscretions add up. I just was making tiny foolish choices over a long period of time. People think that people who are overweight just constantly eat like pigs at a trough, and I guess that might be true sometimes, but I suspect, it isn't often. Most people, just do dumb things from time to time without thinking. Probably, for me, the biggest problem was not being active. I might not have ever gained weight at all if I had stayed active, but I didn't. In college, I only weighed 108 and I was a dancer but then, I hurt both knees in a gymnastics accident and even though I mostly recovered, I stopped being active because I was pretty much unable to walk for the better part of a year. Even after I was able to move on my own again, the pain was bad and I just never sucked it up and started to train again. For many years, my disability has been gone, for the most part, but I just never started again, I guess I just put my effort elsewhere for so long that I formed new habits and kind of a new identity that didn't involve dancing. Sadly, a lot of the habits were bad ones and coupled with stupid eating decisions I ended up in a mess over time. Now, I'm dancing again! Not like I used to, but having fun and being active anyway. I've lost about 25 pounds since Aug. 28th ( a few of them before Spark People) so I'm about 25% of the distance to my goal. I'm much more aware of what I'm doing which I think is the important thing. So far, I've stayed within my calorie range every day since 9/3/13 but if I mess up one day, I'll fix it the next. I know that someday I'll eat that pepper or even cheesecake but once or twice a month is not how any of us got here. As far as the eating disorder goes, Good Luck. I've heard that that is a really hard thing to conquer, but as long as you keep working on things you will overcome. You only lose the game if you stop playing, like I did. I'm cheering for you. emoticon


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11/14/13 4:15 P

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The reason I ate the bell pepper also is because I am trying to wean myself to eat meals throughout the day instead of come dinner I down everything.

Like for example, yesterday I ate two cucumber for breakfast around 10am. I didn't eat again until 10pm and when I did I had four cups of oatmeal, two grilled cheese sandwiches, three bowls of baby carrots, ten slices of ham, and an onion. I measure out almost everything that I eat by the cup or ounce. So essentially I did have the rest of my calories last night which added up to around 1,790 calories.

Today I also decided to eat the bell pepper to attempt to reach 2,100 calories starting today. I have been on 1,800 calories the past two weeks and I noticed that I am still looking the same. And I do not wish to cut out exercise. But I'm wondering if I also might be looking too thin because for three months during my weight loss I was only eating 1,000 calories. My pant size is a 4 but I am looking at weaning off the scale numbers and looking at how the clothing fits.

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So if you are supposed to eat 1800-2100 calories, and are at 380 calories.. do you have a 1500 calories supper?

You shouldn't be asking whether to eat the pepper, but whether you should have more with it.

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11/14/13 3:55 P

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Thank you both for the advice. And I was hungry. I suffer from a mixture of eating disorders - some of the members of SparkPeople have been aware of this due to my posting history in the past. Assuming the bell pepper was around 350; maybe less. I figured the pepper was around 65 calories, the quinoa around 170, and the hamburger around 60 calories. So altogether I have ate about 380 calories. I have a tendency of just eating a tiny bit for breakfast and then not eating again until right before I go to bed. It's a bad habit that I am working on breaking. Normally I wouldn't have the stuffed pepper, but I was really hungry and it was one of the few things already prepared from the previous night that was in the fridge. If I wouldn't have had the bell pepper I was planning on just having two cucumbers.

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Don't know if this helps, but I've started a recipe journal to check out things I make frequently. So, for example if bell peppers are 75 calories ea. (I'm just guessing here) then look up 1/2 C quinoa, half a cup of tomato etc. It is time consuming and a bit of a nuisance, but once you've done it you're all set. Actually, what I do is I add up all the peppers, or whatever, the quinoa or rice, tomato, onion celery etc.When I get all the stuff measured and/or weighed and I have a calorie count for each individual item, I divide by the number of servings. You can do it here in the recipe creator thingy but for me it's faster to not do that. If you figure out the calorie count for 1 serving of "super peppers" or anything, you can just enter it on the nutrition tracker as a 'favorite' and put in the calorie count, You probably don't need to worry about all the other data like grams of protein etc. although if you do the recipe through Spark people recipe creator it will give you all that info just like the label on a can in the super market. Anyway, I think you probably are over estimating on the stuffed pepper because it sounds like the only thing with a significant amount of calories is the quinoa and there probably isn't more than 1/2 C of that in one pepper. There also is an article somewhere on this site that suggests how to add more calories if you're falling short. I used that when I first started because I don't eat much (just the victim of stupid choices). In any event, I use whole milk instead of low fat and regular yogurt instead of non-fat for example. A bunch of tiny changes can add 100-200 calories if you need them. Good luck to you. Alyssa
Oops! didn't notice the hamburger in the pepper, You might be right about 350 calories. Still the other person posting here is pretty right on. Even if you go over by 350 one day, if you are in your range other days of the week, it won't matter much. Also, if you track your fitness here at Spark you should see how many calories you need over and above your 'base' calorie range. My strategy is to track everything every morning. Then I see what my range is for the day and try to stick to the low end of the range. This leaves room for things like tasting as I'm cooking or a scoop of ice cream at the end of the week etc. It's the overall pattern that matters most, not so much day to day. Right now, I'm 'banking' 100 calories a day for extras on Thanksgiving. So far, I've banked more than 1400 spare calories and by then I'll have a lot more, though I'm sure I might only use and extra 1000 on that day, if that. Banking calories is a good trick for unexpected or special events. A.

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So how many calories are you at today, so far? How many do you think you will eat.. besides the stuffed pepper? and are you hungry, or just worried about being too low in calories?

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11/14/13 3:40 P

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Thank you for your reply. The thing is that my Dietician recommended that I have around 1,800 calories a day, but she said due to my work out regime I might even need to eat around 2,100 calories. I've gradually been working on bumping up my calories because I have a history of only eating 1,000 calories at one point. When I work out I work out every day. I lift weights for a half hour and I bike ride for about an hour.

Edit: My doctor and some friends have told me that I'm beginning to look anorexic.

Edited by: BLUEHORSE17 at: 11/14/2013 (15:43)
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First, you need to have a better idea of the calories. If you made this yourself, the pepper, vegetables, and quinoa could be measured and factored out.

Anyways.. calories matter, even if healthy.. If I sit down and eat 40 cans of green beans, which is 50 % fiber.. that would be 2800 calories, and I could gain weight, if I didn't explode first.

Even the 280 grams of fiber wouldn't help me out..lol

Another thought, is that if you ate 350 extra calories on one day, and not on the other 6 days, that would average out to just 50 extra calories a day. So if your range is 1500-1850, and you eat 1750 every day, but 1 day is 2100 ( stuffed bell pepper ), as long as you only did it that once, you would average 1800 for the week ( in range ).

The concern with your post is how you say it. You are supposed to be eating more calories than you have been? Has your range been changed, or were you eating less than your range? Are you passing the upper limit of your range, or what you WERE eating?

If you are now eating in the range, and weren't before, then you are now expecting to go over a range, that you were not reaching before. If so, you are already eating enough calories, and " thinking of eating a stuffed bell pepper to help bump up calories ", implies that you are in need of more calories, and reluctantly, willing to eat to help get more calories, when you are already in range. In reality, you already have enough calories, and no longer need to eat another one to " help ".

So what you need to determine is if you actually need more calories, or if the bell pepper is looking pretty tasty! If so, you may still be able to fit it in, but don't lie to yourself to do so. Calculate the calories, and count it, and if you are a bit high, just remember that you are a bit high for the weekly average, and stay in range for the next week.

We all eat more than we need every so often. Success comes from making sure it isn't daily..lol. Enjoy the stuffed pepper, and move things around later if need be, to make it work.

Gosh! I love stuffed peppers.. with hamburger and tomatoes for me though!

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I'm suppose to be eating more calories than I have been. I was wondering if I happen to pass my calorie limit as long as the food is healthy will it matter much? I was thinking of eating a stuffed bell pepper that I made here at home to help bump up my calories. It is filled with quinoa, red onion, and hamburger. I'm guessing it might be around 350 calories?

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