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9/16/13 12:46 P

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Most people struggle to get 8 glasses a day. I drink 10-12 glasses a day, and 1/2 a cup of skim milk, and some fluids with my veggies. I don't drink extra water when I walk, but if I play basketball, or something where I sweat, I drink another glass of water every 15 minutes or so. At most I drink 15-16 glasses a day.

30-40 seems excessive, but you need to discuss this with your doctor. Maybe some of your meds cause thirst. One thing you might want to check is your blood sugars. Diabetes makes people thirsty. Might not be a problem for you, but worth checking out. When my blood sugars were high, I drank about 200 ozs. of Pepsi a day, plus fruit juice, milk, and water, and was still thirsty. If your doctor is okay with you drinking that much water, then do so. Of course, since you don't trust your doctor, you might want to find a new one first..lol, then follow their advice.

As far as your diet.. while I like low carb, you have already had success before, so why would you not just go back to doing what worked last time? Most people are looking for something that works, and you already know what works for you. All you have to do is re-lose the weight.

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9/15/13 12:56 A

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There is no 'perfect' answer to your question but here is what I have found out through research:

The 8 cups a day rule is not based upon science. It is simply a catchy idea that caught on.

I have also found a pattern among research articles:
There is a difference between how much water your body needs and how much water you can drink before the costs outweigh the benefits.

Your body doesn't technically need 8 cups of water a day. You can probably get by on 4 or 5 and still have enough water because of the food you eat.

However your body can still benefit by drinking even more water than that. Drinking extra water helps make sure that toxins are flushed out, provide you with extra energy, and much more. Drinking about .5oz-1oz for every pound you weigh is supposed to be the 'general rule of thumb' you can use to ensure maximum benefits. After than drinking more water than you need can harm your kidneys.

A lot of people say to drink when you are thirsty but the research I have done shows that it's better to drink before you are thirsty to ensure a continuous amount of fluids in your body. It's similar to how you should eat continuously through the day rather than wait until you are 'starving'. Even if you aren't hungry for breakfast a small meal in the morning is still best for your body.


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9/14/13 6:17 P



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Dietitian Becky has given you really good advice (as we all know she does), but I have two more comment to make in addition to hers.

Sometimes SOME medications CAN have a symptom of changing the colour of your urine. Check with your Pharmacist to see if anything (including supplements) you are on has this as a side-effect.

Where is comes to the dizziness, light-headedness and anxiousness, etc., be aware that sometimes your medications CAN have this as a side-effect, and so too can your medical condition itself, and you have mentioned two medications which can have that effect.

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9/14/13 5:29 P

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Proper hydration is crital to you to lose weight and water reduces sodium buildup in the body.
Also water helps surpress the appetite and converts food into energy & assists in metabolizing stored fat.

Fruits and veggies contain rich sources of water and they also help us stay hydrated so maybe increase high water foods into your daily plan such as cucumber, celery, spinach, iceberg lettuce, tomatoes, zucchini, radishes, eggplant, cabbage, cauliflower, sweet peppers, spinach, strawberries, grapefruit and broccoli, an ice slushy made from fresh berries, and also homemade veggie soup (less sodium when homemade.)

Water regulates blood sugar that's why they tell diabetics to have water as their best friend. Are you diabetic? Thirst is usually the first sign of diabetes or insulin resistant?

You say your doctor said to eat low carb...why? ARE YOU BORDERLINE? There must be a reason he told you to eat low carb.

It is best to get guidance from your doctor for "your" proper hydration amount since there is also water intoxication and too much water can lead to an electrolyte imbalance and other consequences.

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9/14/13 3:54 P

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There is no perfect answer for your question.

A great deal of your fluid needs is met through the foods you eat.
You will also get water through beverages: milk, juice, tea, coffee, other drinks.
For most healthy adults---"thirst" is a good indicator of additional water needs. Water needs can vary greatly depending on temperature, humidity, your job, your workout, etc.
Regarding urine color---pale yellow ( the color of light lemonade) is considered desirable.

I also feel you should talk to your doctor and/or pharmacist regarding your thirst, fluid needs and the medications you use.

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9/12/13 3:34 P

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basically a bunch of people researched and figured out that most people need 90oz of water a day on average for all the things the body does with it. then someone else decided to make this into recommendation and they figured that food could/would/did account for about 1/3 of that, thus getting your to the 64oz a day number. now the thing about your body is that it will take your water from whatever you give it [i drank nothing but coke for years and i'm not dead], so these recommendations run to the ideal rather than the practical. in other words, that it's good for your body to get water in a way that it doesn't have to filter out all the crap to get it.
keep in mind that these ideal calculations don't take into account if you live in florida and it's been a brutal summer that started in february or if you work out in the heat for nine hours a day. so this is just basic "the body needs water for a lot of stuff and since it can't make it, you need to ingest it" logic. lifestyle factors aren't accounted for.
from what i understand of the excretory system, the idea is to get the stuff your body doesn't need anymore out. urine is colored by what it is bringing out of the body. so if your urine is always saturated [ie dark] then what is being left behind because there isn't enough liquid to get it out? think of the blue toilet bowl rinse stuff. you know it's there and working when it's blue and when it's not you notice the lack of blue. since the goal of urinating is to get rid of the color [since it's something you don't want in you], you know you're on the right track when it is getting close to clear [that pale, straw yellow color]. that means that you're efficiently getting what's not supposed to stay in your body out of your body.
in general, so long as you aren't trying to drink 30 cups of water and hold it for a few hours, i'd say that works for you. ideally you would have a physician that you could discuss this with because excessive thirst can be a sign of medical issues. and some medicines can make your thirstier or actually just need more water. a doctor... actually ask your pharmacist if you don't trust your doctor if your medicines fall into that category and if it's something that you should listen to or ignore. because those sort of symptoms could be from any number of things. it could be from drinking too much water, a medicine, or something else entirely.

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Hello. I'm back on this site after a long absence and completely gaining back the weight I lost. I have a question about healthy water intake.

I hear people say your urine should be almost clear if you're drinking enough water. I also hear something about drinking eight cups of water a day.

Some people tell me that the eight cups includes water from food, and I should only be drinking four cups a day, eight if I'm very active that day, but no more. They say urine should not be clear, and if it is, you're drinking too much water.

I've also heard that if you're thirsty, you should drink water. I feel satisfied when I drink 30-40 cups a day, and even then my urine is still fairly yellow. I was told that drinking that much water was making me dizzy, lightheaded, confused, and anxious, but I don't feel any better now that I'm drinking 16 cups a day.

I can't even trust my doctor. He tried to put me on a low-carb diet (as most non-dietitian PCPs do, even though it's scientifically unfounded, or so I hear) and the nurse told me eight cups was a gallon (it's half a gallon) and was probably too much.

So what's the truth? Do I only need four cups? Should I drink eight cups but no more? Is 30-40 cups making me sick, or is that just a result of being 100lbs overweight and the medications I'm on? Should my urine be clear? Should I drink water whenever I'm thirsty?

I'm on Risperdal and a couple other meds that make me hungry, and lithium carbonate, which makes me very thirsty. Should I still drink as much water as I desire? I really love water. I used to drink three cups at a time 10-15 times a day, occasionally drinking a liter and a half with a meal, and I loved it, but with all the conflicting info I stopped. I really want to know what to do.

Can a registered dietitian help me? I'd like to know the real deal from an expert in the field. Thanks!

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