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9/12/13 12:37 P

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2 ozs of cheddar cheese would also be easy to eat, and with some raisins would not cause the hunger.

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I appreciate the effort of many of the responses. The trick is that I needed something that would be small and quick so I can take it to work and eat it as fast as I could. And I don't usually like to mix fruit with anything. I should have just brought the sunflower kernels I bought. Oh well.

I just wanted to know if stuff like this happens to other people. Wasn't sure if it was a common reaction to raisins. Thanks for the extra info.



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a good snack or meal will have protein, fat, carbs and fiber, at least a little bit of each one in there. protein is food that will keep you full later, fat helps you feel full as well as getting all the nutrients out of the protein and carbs you eat, carbs are now food, and fiber helps fill you up and keep you moving. your breakfast is carbs with little to no fat or protein, your snack was carbs with a tiny bit of fiber and your follow up snack was carbs with a bit of fiber. and not only that, your breakfast and both snacks all rank on the lists of foods that don't fill people up and keep them full. yes, apples make the list of filling foods, but they also make the list of not filling foods. plus, how filling a food is is one of those "your mileage may vary" things. potatoes leave many people hungry but i find them to be the single most filling food i can eat. eggs leave me just as hungry when i am done eating them as when i started while other people find them filling. it's about finding what does and doesn't work for you. again, keep in mind that everytime you eat you should be trying to get a little bit of each of those foods in. so an apple isn't a great snack choice, but an apple and cheese or nut butter is. raisins aren't a great choice by themselves but they are with nuts.
as far as pringles go, part of the processing that they and other processed foods undergo are called mechanical and chemical digestion. so basically some factory somewhere does what your stomach was designed to do. so that when that pringle hits your digestive tract it speeds through because all the work has already been done for your stomach. when stuff isn't in your stomach is when you get hungry.


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9/11/13 2:54 P

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Through trial and error I learned that an apple for a snack makes me very hungry till my next meal. If I add about 10 almonds to the apple snack, I am just fine and don't even think about my next meal.



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The major problem with both raisins and apples as hunger-beating snacks is there's not much to them. Let's say 100 calories for each (ish), 100% carbohydrates pretty much, and most of that sugar. Which means, when eaten by themselves, they pass through your stomach very quickly and also spike your blood sugar a fair amount, meaning both that they don't produce any "full" feeling to speak of and also that your blood sugar is likely to fall, later, just as rapidly as it rose, leaving you feeling even hungrier and shakier than you were when you started. Unless you have sugar problems to begin with, they're still great foods, but better eaten as part of a meal than relied on to keep you going for a while by themselves. (And apples in particular seem to be a bad snack food for a lot of people even beyond what I've just said. I don't know why, though. I'm just another person who eats an apple and immediately is starving. Not so with other fruits, even more sugary ones.)

Good snacks usually have 150-250 calories and contain at least some protein and fat in addition to carbohydrates. Carrots (or peppers, or some other veggie) and hummus is a good one. Yogurt is fine. Stuff containing nuts or nut butters is good for a lot of people -- peanut butter on crackers, for instance, assuming you watch your portions. That sort of thing.

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I have the same issue with some fruits. I agree with the others who suggest adding a bit of protein to your snack. If needed, cut back on the amount of raisins to accommodate the additional calories. One of my favorite things for a quick protein snack is a hard boiled egg. I usually only eat the white because cholesterol is an issue for me, but they're easy to prepare and can be cooked ahead of time.

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It isn't the blood sugar spike that is causing the hunger, but the fact that afterwards, your body releases Insulin, which stores it. Your blood sugar drops, and as it nears 70, your body say " Eat something, you are hungry! ".

This is normal, and happens with every meal. the larger the blood sugar spike, the more Insulin is released, and blood sugar drops. If you do this a lot you overtax your body, and become diabetic. As a diabetic, I find that some fruits I have to eat in limited quantities. You may try to switch to lower glycemic fruit for a snack. Raspberries won't spike your blood sugar as much, and have quite a bit of fiber.

Overall, your meals are supposed to be a mixture of protein, fat, and carbs, so that you have some fuel that burns off quickly ( carbs ), and some that takes longer ( fat/protein ). All the snacks you mentioned are almost exclusively carbs. Just add a cheese stick, or some nuts, or even some pre-cooked chicken strips to any fresh fruit, or veggie you eat for a snack.

It isn't a negative. Raisins have their place, and if used correctly make a nice snack.Just don't eat them by themselves.

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There's a reason why trail mix isn't just raisins. :) You're probably experiencing a bit of a blood sugar spike after eating just raisins. Try mixing them with some good nuts (I'm not a fan of almonds myself, I prefer peanuts or cashews) and see if that helps it stick more.

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Raisins are a concentrated hit of carb (sugar) energy. Foods like that, when eaten alone, tend to "burn off fast"... and the apple you ate, while it had some volume to it, is again mostly carbs... good for quick energy but not so effective at keeping you full. You'd probably have better luck if you mixed them with some peanuts (fat/protein), or had them along with a serving of yogurt (again, protein and fat).


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apples are full of fiber and make you feel full because fiber absorbs alot of water. So maybe your not getting enough water to make use of the fiber in your apple and your cereal.

and raisins or grapes aren't that good for sustained energy or fullness because they are mostly sugar.

Every once in a while I do get really ravenously hungry though no matter what i eat or drink, but usually if i can eat some good fats like some avocado or something it helps me control it.



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For me, I don't find raisins by themselves to be satisfying. In 30g of raisins there is only 0.1g of fat, 1g of protein, but 17.3g of sugar --- that's just going to leave me hungry! I need protein and fat for me to be satisfied.

I prefer to have raisins in a full-fat yogurt, or sprinkled on some peanut butter spread on the apple, or baked in to something that has fat and protein. Honestly, for me there is no point in even trying to have carbs alone, because I'll be looking for something else right away.

You already had a lot of carbs in your breakfast, so it's possible that your body is looking for more fat and protein. Raisins and apples just don't provide those. You might want to consider adding some peanut butter, or cheese, or yogurt, or nuts, or something with protein to satisfy your hunger. Your Pringles are going to give you some fat, but your body is still going to need some protein.

The thing with even "good" foods is that you still need to have the right combination of fats / proteins / carbs for your body to be satisfied. There aren't many individual foods that will supply that, so you have to combine different foods to get what you need.

Hope you find something satisfying to get you through the day!

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Try adding some raw almonds with the raisins - it helps to have some protein when snacking on a carb.



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Can someone tell me why, whenever I have Raisins, I am STARVING for the next few hours? I had breakfast, a bowl of cereal in almond milk, then, when I got to work, I had a 1oz pack of raisins and I've felt like I've needed to eat ever since the pack of raisins.

It's not the first time that's happened. I had an apple after the raisins, thought that'd help because Apples are supposed to be filling. No. Now, I'm trying to take my time on a small pack of Pringles. I'm still feeling a growl in my stomach and I can't understand why.

I think it's the raisins. Like I said, this isn't the first time this happened and I think Raisins are my trigger foods. But I thought raisins were one of the "good guys." How can I fix this? I like raisins, but I don't like feeling like I need to eat all day.



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