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NO because I don't believe in cheats or weight loss diets or fade diets. I learned awhile ago that it all depends on the choices you make. Eventually you come to realize that a 6 inch sub with less meat and cheese and more veggies is just as filling as the 12 inch loaded with meat and cheese and mayo. You can actually taste the flavors and enjoy it more.So every once in awhile I have that extra whatever always being mindful of what and how much.I don't consider it cheating, and no I'm not deluding myself.Depraving yourself completely of something you enjoy is a recipe for disaster unless of course It's your serious REDLIGHT food but that's a totally different thing. emoticon

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My experience is that I use them now. When I first started I had no control for a cheat meal because I would often have a trigger food that set me into a feeding frenzy for lack of a better word. I started incorporating them later once I was able to have a cheat food without the frenzy. For some of us who have food addiction it can be hard to just have that one cheat meal. I am now able to use them and they are very effective but it is definitely a personal decision on the use of them and it may be something that you will have to slowly add in once your palate changes toward a preference for healthy foods. When I was first starting my preference wasn't for healthy foods but now I can do the cheat meal because my body doesn't desire the less healthy stuff.

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My SIL used to diet all week, but on Saturday, they would go out for dinner and she would have whatever she wanted from the menu. The next day she was right back to her food plan and she lost 97 lbs. It worked for her. If I eat something that is not on my food plan it seems to set off a binge that lasts several days. I don't have the control for it.

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7/22/13 8:51 A

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They always seem to derail me . . . .



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7/22/13 8:49 A

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I do allow myself "cheat" meals. Although I like what one person said and would agree-moderation. We should not deprive ourselves if we really feel we have to have it. Just limit how much. I was really surprised by how many said they would not

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No No!



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no!!!!!



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If I want pizza I'm going to eat pizza. I just plan for it and make sure I stay within my calorie range.

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I am all in for PLANNED cheat meals for below reasons

1/ Knowing that you'll eventually have a cheat meal prevents indulgences.

For example, I am a huge chocolate fan who can easily eat any chocolate in sight (not that I do that of course). I have a planned chocolate treat on some weekdays (used to be everyday). It is amazing how I do not eat the whole box, just because I have an upcoming treat anyways.

2/ Planning the cheat will automatically urge you to plan your remaining meals accordingly (especially when the cheat is much bigger than a piece of chocolate), as well as your exercise. You will not, thus, feel guilty on the upcoming days.

Even more so, you will most probably not think about ditching everything all together - like some people do after a single unplanned cheat (that hamburger might turn into a streak of carbo-loading).

3/ Cheating gives you a taste of real life - a mini simulation of what lies ahead. You can never be 100% perfect and cheating teaches you to master real life where temptations exist galore.

NB: I used to term "cheat meals" to stick to the jargon of the original post. However, the term has negative connotations. As long as they are planned and within limits, such meals should - in my opinion - not be referred to as cheating.

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I try really hard to be careful, but sometimes I mess up. Usually it is while eating out. I still try to make good choices, but the other night I really just wanted to let go at Olive Garden and not obsess. I went way over my calories and nutrients for the day, but I forgave my self. My calorie range is 1200-1550, if I average that I get 1375 calories per day. If I eat 5000 calories once that is 0.7% of my annual calorie average. I just have to do better. Even if I do that once a month, that would be a total of 8.7% of my yearly calories. Granted each day I should be eating 0.2% of my calories for the year, but SERIOUSLY messing up once in a while is really not a big deal. I saw a nutritionist that said when you do that just shoot for the lower end of your calories/ fat for the next few days to make up for it, or exercise a little harder. My doc isn't letting me exercise right now, so it is a slow process for me. I don't plan splurges (unless it's a birthday, anniversary, etc.) but one meal on one day once in a while, is not a big deal.

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7/21/13 10:19 P

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No I'd say don't plan cheat meals. It is hardest for me to eat well during the weekends!



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7/21/13 9:38 P

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The weekends are the hardest for me. I have cooked all week and like to eat out at least one night on the weekend. I don't consider it cheating, just living life with my family. I watch the portions and count every calorie. This is a life style change for me, not a diet.

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7/21/13 8:29 P

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I allow 1 day within reason. I believe that if you completely deprive yourself then you are setting yourself up for failure. I usually pick Saturdays but then I have to stay on track the other days.



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I don't think it is a good idea to characterize food as good or bad. It's food. It's not a moral choice. Eating cake isn't bad. But eating it in moderation will lead to faster weight loss.



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7/21/13 2:42 P

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I have a major issue with cheating. That's like an alcoholic saying "I will reward myself with just ONE drink" for somebody with an addiction to food. A 'cheat' day could get me off goal very very easily just like it has so many times before. I end up sabotaging everything I've worked for. I will indulge don't get me wrong. But as for weekly, I can't do it. I simply have zero will power.

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7/21/13 12:02 P

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I do by default. I'm not perfect so every now and then when I'm out with friends or family and I don't have a lunch box with me or I have to eat food that I have not prepared myself, I may go over on points or eat something fattening. I track it and start over again tomorrow.

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No cheating in the last 90 days not even 1 bite.


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I don't CHEAT! I occasionally INDULGE in meals that are not on my usually carefully planned
menu, but only when I'm at a restaurant, and something looks really appealing.

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Cheat meals.. an interesting way to look at it.. as if you are setting yourself up to fail. I eat out and have those high calorie foods.. but every now and then and in moderation. Not like before. If you do not plan to ever have that birthday cake.. or that ice cream, you are a much stronger person then myself. I am trying to set up lifelong eating habits that will keep me fit.



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No, I eat what I like and desire in moderation.



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7/20/13 11:26 A

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Project29, you have written some very wise words. I, too, have gone through the restrictive diets in the past. Sure I lost weight but then I caved and started eating all the stuff I forbid myself to eat while trying to lose weight. Once that happened the weight crept on. The correct way to do it is to never have forbidden foods to begin with. If you can teach yourself to fit them into your life without stressing out, you're on your way to a true healthy lifestyle. That's what I'm working on right now.

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My cheat meals are when we eat out at a nice restaurant. Since it's something we do very infrequently, I don't worry about it.

We have pizza every Friday night. I plan for that. It's not the best meal, but it's all I can do on Friday after a long work week.



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7/20/13 1:44 A

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If you look at this as a diet and not a lifestyle change, you will fail. Been there, done that. Eat what you like in moderation. That's the key to losing weight and keeping it off. I did it wrong the first time, which is why I'm here a second time. I restricted food and calories and ended up gaining back all the weight I lost when I finally cracked and binged on all the things I hadn't allowed myself to eat for several months. Balance is what you need, not deprivation.

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Not sure what the point would be...???

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I would say no.



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It is important to meet those cravings, eventually. The key word is eventually. You should allow yourself some leeway, but also exercise some patience and not indulge in those cravings RIGHT AWAY.

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Well said,,,,,,,,,,,I soooooo relate!!

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I lost the most weight when I did 1-2 cheat meals (not days) a week. It helped me stave off binges. If I was craving a cheeseburger/fries or piece of pizza, I would plan for that to be my cheat meal when I met friends on the weekend. Knowing I would be able to eat what I was craving during my cheat meal helped me stay healthy all week.

After awhile, I'd get to the point that by the time my cheat meal rolled around, I'd no longer be craving the less-than-healthy food and would make healthier choices. Knowing I was giving myself permission to eat what I wanted helped me feel less "deprived."

The key, however, is only to stick to the planned cheat meal. It's far too easy to add in additional cheat meals (next thing you know...pow! all of your meals become cheat meals)--vigilance is vital. I've learned this lesson the hard way.

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I think it's good to do them once in awhile (as long as you're not eating too much of it), so you wont have to feel food deprived during cravings.

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I don't call them cheat meals. I call them eating.

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I cheat when I'm with my grandkids every Friday.

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Usually saturday I will cheat. We go out to eat every Saturday.



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I'll have a cheat meal, but not a cheat day (or only on rare occasions)

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Yes, but only a bite or 2 of cheat item. I find that's all I need to enjoy the taste of the treat.

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No. It gives me permission to continue eating unhealthy foods.

Just take it one day at a time.
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Only on special occasions; I eat what I enjoy while still controlling portions.




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I don't mind the word cheat, it is my behavior and negative self talk that I have a hard time controlling. I can relate to many things people have already said, my main problem is lack of willpower, consistency, self-loathing and overeating. So currently what works for me is tracking my daily fitness & everything I eat; exercising 4-5 x weekly; not keeping any junk or sinful foods in house, if I really crave something I buy or make it. I treat myself once or twice weekly, with small portions (Eg. Ice cream cone, not a sundae; suck on freeze pops in scorching hot weather; thinking of having pizza this weekend; snack on low cal, low carb, high protein, crunchy/filling foods like celery, cucumber, fish, sunflower seeds, etc.) Other goals are to gradually reduce my consumption of wheat, flour, sugar, man made or processed products, fermented products/condiments and replace with alternative foods or occasionally eat such items. By the way, this is sooooooo hard to maintain sometimes and this is why I am here.......I really appreciate and benefit from reading other spark users' posts....Thanks and good luck with your journey!!

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Yes and no.

I do sometimes eat above my weight loss range when I'm trying to lose weight, or even above my maintenance range when I'm not. From time to time I even eat above maintenance range while I'm losing. Sometimes this is even "planned" in the sense that I know ahead of time that it is likely, such as holidays.

I do *not* consider these "cheating." That entire mindset is not only inaccurate but, for me, triggering. "Cheating" implies that you're doing something that gets you closer to your goal, in a dishonest way. I guess that could kind of apply, if you see "cheat" meals as an attempt to retain your psychological dedication to healthier eating. That has some validity. But "cheating" also implies that you're doing something *bad.* Eating an occasional piece of cake may not be ideal, but it's not strictly "bad" either.

And no matter what I eat, I track it. Sometimes I wiggle around my intake and exercise a little bit that week, to try to balance it out, but not if it means going hungry or passing out on my treadmill.

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I can appreciate all the sound comments re cheating and agree that all things should be in moderation if you are in control. However, I think that control only comes from being on some weight loss programme for some time and getting to know your body and what it can and cannot cope with as far as food goes. Like many of us I have been in weight loss programmes for years mostly with successful weight loss but unsuccessful maintenance. For me it is keeping in control of the food and not letting the odd dinner out , holiday away or take away meal signal that I have blown it completely and begin the negative talk cycle. I think cheating takes practice to be able to handle it. Great if you can, for me not yet.



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my boyfriend and i usually allow ourselves one "cheat" day a week, whether it is the same day or not is another subject. However, he and i will be going to Atlantic City for 3 days/2 nights next week, and i am SURE i will not be able to stay within my calorie range



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I agree that "cheat" is not a good word. But I can, will and do eat things that are not the healthiest from time to time.

For instance, tomorrow is my daughter's birthday and she wants gyos for dinner from a place that makes them bigger than your head. They use pitas dipped in butter before grilling and their sauce is sour cream based instead of yogurt based. Yikes! However, I'm not freaked about it because I've already planned to ask for sauce on the side ( not that big a fan of it anyway), will spead my leftovers over 2 - 3 days, and will eat a smaller breakfast and lunch.

Many days I will plan to allow myself room in my day for a small treat for dessert, but by the time I've eaten dinner, I'm satisfied and forget all about it. But just knowing that I can have it if I wanted it makes me crave it less.

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Yes I normally set a day aside for something I really love the key is limiting it to a meal and not falling back into bad habits



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Due to my being pre-diabetic, my doctor referred me to a diabetic prevention program sponsored by my clinic. We discussed that we often label foods as being "good" or "bad." As a result, we deny ourselves occasional treats. When we cut them out all together, we begin to feel deprived. The key is to work towards having balance by allowing occasional desserts, but, may be cutting back on something else. I don't think that total deprivation is a good thing.

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For me, a 'cheat' turns into a full feeding frenzy sometimes. I try not to have in the house things I know I crave.

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yes but I don't see it as cheating I see it as relaxing and letting your body enjoy the bad foods as well , just as long as I don't get stuck having all the bad foods then I cut out till I deserve a treat again



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Trev,
Love the idea of the individual squares of chocolate! I must try this. I am having a bad time "cheating" with watermelon. Yes, I know it is low cal and no fat, BUT, when you eat half a melon at one time, that's a lot of calories. But I absolutely LOVE IT! I try to save up calories for it everyday, and while it will probably not make me gain weight, it probably won't let me lose either!

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