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9/19/13 4:37 A



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WOW - that would take forever and a day :-(

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9/19/13 4:35 A

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ANARIE: I hadn't realised the information came from the USDA. Most of the branded stuff I eat isn't available in the US, so I assume it comes from somewhere else (member-submitted, maybe?).

I'll definitely consider your suggestion for tracking another nutrient as sugar. The only issue with that is I'd have to input it all manually, while sugar is already listed under the nutritional information for most of what I eat. The only other thing I can think of is to pull up the calculator on my computer, check the nutrient info for everything I eat, and add it all up.

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9/18/13 8:25 P



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SparkPeople can't provide the information because the USDA doesn't. SparkPeople uses the USDA database. It's free. It would cost hundreds of thousands of dollars to create a database that tracked sugar, and even then it wouldn't mean anything because manufacturers all list it differently. You'd have a total mish-mash of information. It's not just that some people might not understand what it means; it's that it wouldn't mean anything to anyone.

If YOU have a source for sugar content that makes sense to you and you think it's reasonably accurate, you can track it yourself. Choose a nutrient from the list that is never in the database, like beta-sitosterol, and make a custom food called "sugar grams" that has no information except 1mg Beta-sitosterol. Then you can run charts and reports, etc, on beta-sitosterol and just know that it means sugar, in whatever way you've decided to define sugar.



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9/18/13 7:19 P

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Thank you Kris, I have read it and understand.. Thanks again for this site
God bless

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Phil 3: 14, I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.
Blessings to all who read this
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9/18/13 6:59 P



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All I can suggest is that you read that link that Coach Jen put in her previous post:
www.sparkpeople.com/community/ask_the_expe
rts.asp?q=85


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9/18/13 1:29 P

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emoticon I'm with you !

I can do all things through Christ which strengthenth me.
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Phil 3: 14, I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.
Blessings to all who read this
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9/18/13 1:22 P

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As an SP user residing outside the US, I object to one of the main reasons behind not listing sugar is that it's not a requirement on nutrition labels, because it IS where I live, while many other nutrients available to track are not. In fact, I tried tracking calcium, but gave up after I realised it's not even listed on my milk jugs. Why not have sugar, too, and users can decide for themselves whether or not their local labelling standards allow for an accurate measure?

While I'm aware that eating sugar in an apple isn't the same as in a chocolate cake, sugar tracking would be used in conjunction with the overall food log, so we'd be able to tell if we were exceeding our sugar allowance through an abundance of fresh fruit or overindulgence on birthday cake.

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9/18/13 12:24 P

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Kris,
There is NO WAY to put the sugar content on my tracker. I wanted on there like I do my carbs and blah blah blah, items. They say you can add 75 different nutrition's but none say SUGAR
WHY?
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Carla Jo

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7/25/13 5:16 P

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DITTO!

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7/25/13 8:57 A

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That's the first time I've seen that particular explanation, and yup, it grinds my gears.

Every food product I've got at my office that has a label has a sugar content listed. None of those products have any kind of claim about sugar.

When I can't find something I ate on the nutrition tracker, or find the nutrition facts online, I find something that is close enough to what I ate and enter it. I know that the nutrients may be far off from what I actually ate. But I have SOME idea instead of NO idea. I would also like to have some idea of how much sugar I'm eating regularly.

I know that sugar comes from good sources and bad sources. I would like to track the amount of sugar I eat, because if I'm well within or close to my limits, great! If I'm not, I can go back through my tracker and figure out IF I need to make changes.

I realize that some users of this site, while perfectly reasonable and intelligent, can get hung up on something minor like sugar intake. It's great that Sparkpeople is trying to keep uninformed people from making bad decisions based on incomplete data.

It's insulting that I'm prevented from using a tool that might help me better monitor my health because someone else might not understand it. The idea that "we don't recommend this, so it's not allowed" is what bothers me the most.

When I first joined SP several years ago to maintain weight I had already lost, I felt several aspects of the site were very "one size fits all", and a lot of those things have been improved (the variety of weight/goal trackers, for example). Here is more room for improvement.



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7/25/13 2:15 A



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The sugars you should be limited come from things like sweets, cakes, ice-creams, soda, juices (usually have some sugar added to them.)

Don't worry about the sugars from fruits and veges (unless you are diabetic), because they have a ton of very beneficial nutrients and fibre etc. Sugars are part of carbs, so keeping an eye on the overall carbs (while limited those foods listed above) is really all that we need. Sometimes people get too overwhelmed/confused with the very fine details that can lead to making decisions to limit or cut out what would be a very healthy food.

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7/25/13 12:50 A

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I have read the issue that Spark People has with tracking sugar but it would still be helpful to track this information even if (for now) manufacturers don't include it on the nutrition label. For me it gives me a ball park figure. Even Spark articles recommend limiting sugar intake but I have no idea what I'm taking in - no ball park figure. I do see that MyFitnessPal has the option of tracking sugars. It can't be that difficult to add it with a disclaimer.

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5/25/13 10:03 A

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Oh hard! Sugar is hidden in so many things!

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Fiber is able to be tracked. Because sugar alcohols don't have to be specifically called out in a numeric volume on a food label, that's a reason that data wouldn't necessarily be reliable.

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It's great that you guys keep running around re-posting that "explanation," but why don't you just give us the tracker we want and let us decide how to use it, instead of making us go to other websites or do the math manually every day. (We're using the site so we don't have to do that in the first place!)

If you seriously think tracking some of those other "nutrients" is more useful, I don't even know what to say, because I'm clearly not speaking to a reasonable person.

Allowing only total carbs to be effectively tracked, when fiber and "sugar alcohols" represent such a large portion of so many dieters' carbohydrate intake is simply not helpful.

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5/14/13 9:51 A

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Thank you.



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Here's why you can't track sugar specifically in our nutrition tracker:

www.sparkpeople.com/community/ask_the_expe
rts.asp?q=85


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5/14/13 6:42 A

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yup, Kris said it well, again.

There are 'natural' sugars which are part of fruits, veggies, etc., and then there's the processed types (often ending in -ose) (sucrose, fructose, blah, blah, blah)

I, too, try to avoid the highly processed products (baked goods from the store; pre-packaged stuff, etc.)

However, things like bacon and meats often need a bit of sugar for the curing process. If you look on the nutritional label, there are not always a lot of sugars left behind (listed between carbohydrates and protein, usually). For those, I'm ok with the added sugars, as it's been 'used'.

I think you're fighting a losing battle - because there are so many names for sugar, you'd be tracking all day, and still wondering if you did enough. How about just cutting back on the overly processed stuff, and going for the 'as close to nature' varieties?

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5/14/13 6:30 A



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In all honesty, this is virtually an impossible task. Sugar per se isn't bad, it is the processed stuff that you should be concentrating on reducing and that is easy enough done - don't very often eat cakes, biscuits, sodas, etc. where the processed stuff is high. You are better off to just eliminate the processed sugar as much as possible.

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5/14/13 4:00 A

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I want to track my sugar intake for my meals but I'm not sure what option I need to select. The list for adding nutrients has fructose, sucrose, glucose - but those are all sugars! What do I need to select for tracking? Very confused.



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