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12/6/13 2:49 P

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I use the scale the same way you do NICKYCRANE. It gives me an idea of how I'm trending so I don't find I have to keep track of anything else (which I get overwhelmed doing and find can be bad for me since I had an eating disorder for years, I had to go cold turkey on counting calories in order not to relapse).


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5/18/13 7:56 A

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Well done, EMJUDY!
I've been intuitive eating for about the last week. It's working for me, even when my body tells me I need a generous portion of chocolate! I've stayed pretty constant at 55 kilos, 2 below my original goal, even though I've been wiped out after flu and unable to exercise. The last 2 days I've begun to do a little. I do go against the accepted wisdom and jump on the scales each morning. Don't want to worry about finding I've put on 5 kilos since the last weigh in! It's much quicker to jump on the scales than to track calories! This month I'm working on getting 5 helpings of veg a day. This naturally also helps dampen my appetite for things that fatten me! I'm logging veg, fruit, grains, theoretically also protein on paper, rather than cals online. Much easier.



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5/10/13 11:07 A

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I've been working on living healthier for about three months now; down almost 20 pounds. I started very casually, just eating smaller portions and more fruits and vegtables. I really focused on recognizing the feeling of being 3/4 full instead of 100 percent full (and then some) like I was used to.

I told myself nothing was off-limits, and I still had binges of unhealthy foods; afterwards I really tried to focus on how I was feeling physically (bloated, tired, indegestion, etc.), instead of how I was feeling emotionally (guilty, ashamed, angry, etc.). I found I've had fewer binges and the ones I do have, I tend to move on more quickly and not get sucked back into my formerly unhealthy lifestyle.

After plateauing with my weight for about three weeks, I made a choice to start tracking my food once again. This has helped me be more aware of what I'm eating, still with nothing off-limits, and I really try not to sweat it when I go over my goals. I'm now two pounds away from my first goal of a 20-pound loss!

Stay positive.
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5/10/13 10:48 A

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I've been reading "Eat What You Love, Love What You Eat" and MAN can I ever recognize myself in that pattern of Restrict-Overeat-Guilt.

For myself IE doesn't work totally right now. It is however my eventual goal. I use SP to track my food for the day, planning out snacks and meals to get me within the suggested goals. That said, if I've had the right food and my stomach is growling hungry, I'm not going to deny it. I usually wait 5-10 min, try a glass of water, and if I'm still hungry, I'll have a snack. Sometimes it's a bit of yogurt with fruit, sometimes it's low fat frozen yogurt, sometimes it's chips or chocolate.

I'm in this for the long haul, I want to lose weight, but more than that I want to be healthy. I want to learn what that means for me. And I'm trying very hard not to beat myself up when I indulge. Instead I want to just pick up and move on.

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5/9/13 5:51 P

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I'm trying to eat intuitively...again - since that's what I had been doing all along but it's so unpredictable - one minute you're doing fine, the next you've gained 2 kgs! So it's not a sure fire way of being comfortable and accountable - whereas counting calories is more definite...as someone on here said - it's the strict tracking that loses the weight, and yes it does.

I'm battling with cravings and emotional eating at the moment so following instincts would be the worst thing to do, but listening to what you actually want to eat when you are pshyically hungry and then tracking this is the best of both worlds...



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5/9/13 12:41 P

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I often eat this way.

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5/9/13 12:25 P

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For starters I track.... and I track everything. It makes me more accountable. I have been tracking consistently for a month and am now starting to once again recognize portion sizes and total carb, protein and fat intakes.

The last time I lost weight, I journalled for about 6 months before I was automatically making healthier choices for the long term. Did well through my 20's and 30's. Over the last 10 years however, I let family,stress and poor choices step in the way so at 53 I am once again back to tracking.

Not all things work for all people -- we were each created uniquely so we shouldn't expect that they should. We each must try and find our own program of what works as we process through the stuff that doesn't.

Be patient, be positive and be blessed!

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5/9/13 11:50 A

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I'd say it does work, in fact it's the only thing that's ever really worked for me in any sort of long term fashion because as much as I can lose fast going gungho with calorie counting I either get tired of it or more so get too entrenched and start heading back toward having an eating disorder (mine was set off by my first diet).

One person did mention maybe a factor of not having always struggled with weight maybe making a difference though and that would describe me. I never really struggled with my weight until a few years ago (when I was about twenty-five). I'm an overall pretty healthy eater and always have been but I struggle with emotional eating and I'm pretty sure that's what's piled on my excess fifty pounds.


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5/8/13 9:21 P

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intuitive with logging my food in sparkspeople and making my own daily choices to see how well I did.



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5/8/13 8:19 P

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I don't know that anyone just starting out would be successful. It takes time to understand your body -- I wouldn't suggest anyone just it as a diet strategy until they have already successfully lost some weight the traditional way. But at the same time, different things work for different people. You gotta do what works for you!

"Your life is like a river and if you are aiming for a goal that is not your destiny, you will always be swimming against the current. Find out what your destiny is and the river will carry you."


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5/8/13 7:47 P

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Ahhh, one can only hope someday....



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5/8/13 7:28 P

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At this point in time, intuitive eating would be the same as overconfidence.

One of my patterns once started on the path to healthy eating, is overconfidence.
What happens?
I think I have got the craving/bad habit licked; however, when I tell myself this snack is ok, just this one time, emoticon I find it much more difficult to abstain next time. In fact, the temptation meter gets higher and I find myself struggling. emoticon Worst case scenario, plunge....only to come back months later to obtain the momentum I had before achieved! emoticon

Everytime I have a "self-bashing thought" (mad at myself because I failed an attempt to reach a goal)I will find 3 positive things I did to replace that thought! This way I will change my thinking and remove one aspect of emotional eating. Soooooo....

1 negative thought = 3 positive thoughts!


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5/8/13 7:05 P

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I personally think intuitive eating is brilliant and a valid way of going and if it works for you, I say hats off. I know when my body craves something it needs, I will often trust the feeling and go with it.

Do what you need to do and trust yourself about this. You can internally regulate choices and amounts.

I would love to hear more about your adventure. As the saying goes..."Many roads lead to Rome."

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Nickycrane i am struggling with the maintennance level too in my weight. It seems to fluctuate a lot. I go up and down yet. As for intuitive eating I usually eat meals at a certain time not always when I am hungry. Still struggle with eating for other reasons and sometimes I have snacks when My calories are too low or my protein is low.

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5/8/13 3:32 A

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I am eating what my body tells me I need, even when it goes over the cal guidelines. I am trying to eat more grains. I am still losing weight gradually, tho in fact on maintenance. I can afford to lose more, so weight loss doesnt worry me, tho my present goal is to reduce spare tyre, which is going down gradually, and to get fitter. I hope the day will come when I dont need to track my food so religiously.
My cravings have changed and become healthier, and the odd piece of chocolate does me no harm. I seldom eat more than one at a time. After the day I did have a slight binge, my weight remained stable and then continued to go down. Thank you, SP! And themgreat thing is that the programme is free, and SC so cheap its incredible value.




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5/7/13 2:20 P

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I think it makes sense, but for myself I would approach it with caution. I would have to have stronger skills to keep myself on track.



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I would really like to be able to do this, but I have a lot of trouble controlling my cravings and boredom eating. This summer I'm doing an elimination diet and as part of that I'm going to attempt to eat intuitively, still tracking at the end of eat day to see how I've done. I think with eliminating the main things I go for during boredom eating and my main cravings, I'll do better.

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I tried it and it didn't work well for me. I would like to get to the point where it does work.

Made it to my maintenance weight of 125 pounds.

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I like the idea however I think we may trick our bodies into intuitively wanting the wrong thing. If I am restricting calories for a long time I might intuitively want a high calorie meal. I think if you are in lifestyle retraining someday you might get to intuitive or you may intuitively want pineapple versus watermelon but I agree with Bubble and say if you are not careful you might want chocolate for a lifestyle

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Hope you'll enjoy the book if you get it.



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It makes sense, thanks for the book suggestions



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It's not working so well for me either right at this moment.



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I'm not ready for tHat

A peaceful heart leads to a healthy body

See it, Say it, Believe it,
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The best thing you can do if you want to embrace intuitive eating is to read the book " Intuitive Eating" byEvelyn Tribole and Elyse Resch. They make it very easy to understand.



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This sounds like an interesting idea, and I'd like to learn more about it, but it does seem pretty advanced. Right now I am just working on stopping eating when I'm full... dealing with the other baggage will come later!

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I really think intuitive eating works but I think it's better suited to someone that's not over weight as I am. With me trying to practice IE, I end up eating way too much and just keep getting bigger. I know the book says over time your body will adjust to the new way of eating but with me, I'm just afraid I'll gain even more and I'm already big enough as it is.



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I am doing well with intuitive eating and I feel like it works for me because I was impeccible about tracking everything I ate for nine years. Everything for nine years! From time to time a track a day of nutrition to affirm I am still on track with my intuitive eating.

I still weigh or measure my portions. I wear a bodymedia fit monitor so my fitness is automatically tracked...Thank you SparkPeople for sync of that!

Edited by: REBCCA at: 4/30/2013 (22:41)
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Well, intuitive eating doesn't work well for me for a couple reasons, and I am not overweight or trying to lose weight, but I still track and try to accurately record both diet and exercise. I run, and I've been trying to build muscle, so my goal may be a bit different from some of yours as I might actually gain a few pounds as I gain muscle. But I have found that if I am lazy with tracking or think, oh it doesn't really matter as long as I keep up good eating habits and eat enough protein, it just doesn't work. Most of the time, I find that I am not eating enough protein if I don't pay attention to it, and it is hard to keep track in my head especially if I'm not sure exactly how many, almonds for example, or exactly how much, cereal for example, I ate if I didn't actually measure it. Also I track to see patterns in how the food affects my running ability, so I just wanted to reply to this thread because it is not only people trying to lose weight but also those of us maintaining or gaining muscle that still shouldn't be lazy about tracking.

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Intuitive eating is a long-term goal for me. At this point, as others have mentioned, I'm just concentrating on losing the pounds. The best way for me is to track every single thing that goes in my mouth!

I am getting better at guessing portion sizes (I still confirm with a scale), so there's hope for me.

At my current rate of weight loss, I should reach my goal by the end of November. By then, hopefully, the artificial hunger pangs will be tempered and I will be able to eat true to my actual body nutritional requirements -- intuitively. :-)




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This would not work for me. Before sparkpeople my intuition was to overeat. Lately I have been struggling with eating to little. The tracking really helps me get a visual of what I have to eat. I have grown to love planning out what I am going to eat on a daily basis. I'd eventually love to get to a more intuitive place but right now while I'm losing tracking has been the best way for me.



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I would eventually like to be able to stop tracking, or stop tracking every day. I did it for a while, when I was going through some tough times, and Christmas holidays and all-inclusive vacation and happily only gained 5 lbs, so I feel like I'm close.

However, there is one point I'm stuck on:

How do I -REALLY- know when I'm hungry? vs when its a craving? Any tips out there?

(I also tend to eat if food is infront of me, but that's a different issue / baggage to sort through!)

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right now intuitive eating is getting me in trouble -- new medication that is screwing with me. I have gained because of the new med telling me I am hungry. I think to myself "how can that be? I just ate 2 hours ago" but none of my normal things to quiet a non-hunger hunger work (taking a walk, drinking hot tea, etc.) so I eat something. It is healthy, I plan great snacks like apple and walnuts. But I am gaining. Still walking normal and some days more than normal. The meds are a trial and if they do what they are supposed to do I will be off them in another 5 weeks. I hope so.

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I've been doing intuitive eating most of my life, and it has served me well. Much of this is out of necessity because of my warped little metabolism. However, there are times when I don't and I need to lose weight (up til now, that was only after pregnancies in which I reverted back to healthy living).

My main reason for being in here is a small gripe about a quiz regarding if I have a problem/addiction with sweets. Hint, if I don't, between this and my blood pressure-without this weight, normally low, I can have mini black outs...just as if I have too many......But hey, if I haven't eaten and haven't had any sweets, have you ever experienced digitized vision with the ground coming up to meet you and everything so bright?????

Yes, diabetes runs on both sides of the family-one hyperglycemic, the other hypoglycemic. Am I careful? Yes.

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I'm just now really working towards eating intuitively. I've been a professional dieter for over 30 years and all it's gotten me is bigger than I've ever been in my life. I've been reading a number of books on Intuitive eating and I realize that's what I have to do to be at peace with myself. I simply can't diet any more, and saying I'm just going to eat healthy from now on is a crock, not going to happen. Plus to say I'm not dieting, I'm just eating healthier, is just another form of a diet. So I'm no longer dieting, period. I'm going to eat what my body calls for, but do my best to not over eat. To stop when satisfied. But unless it's a food I'm allergic to, no foods are off limits anymore.



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Not ready yet for intuitive eating. I was binge eater for years....just found out that I am allergic to milk!! I had suspected it because nothing made me binge but ice cream! I could eat 1/2 cup and then I wanted the whole half gallon! And potatoes, and any starch I could get my hands on!!!
Well, I started here and the first week I overate my calories every day and walked every day. Didn't lose but didn't gain. Didn't have any milk, either. The second week I got my calories within range and started losing a pound every day or two...still with no milk in my diet. Then I had some half and half in my coffee (it was close to expiration date and I wanted to use it up) 4 mini moos for 2 days and my cravings came back and !whammo! I quit losing. Got off of it and started losing again. Now I know why weight loss was always so difficult for me....food allergies/sensitivities. Haven't been eating any peanuts, which is also a common allergen, and in a couple of weeks I will try that and see if it slows or stops my loss.
When I weighed the correct amount, I didn't eat until my stomach growled and stopped as soon as satiety set in (always ate slowly and deliberately). But was eating almost nothing, and that isn't healthy. I have never in my life been able to eat the amount of calories that I am eating now and still lose weight! This is marvelous, and I feel so energized...like I could climb a mountain! Maybe my metabolic syndrome is fixed!! My friends and I are amazed at the amount of healthy food you can eat if there are few or no "empty" calories.

I pre-plan my meals and snacks, either the night before or first thing in the morning. Then, when mealtime comes, everything is mapped out. As my body gets used to this, hunger comes at about the same times every day. My mood is better, there is more energy available, my skin looks clearer, there are no cravings, and I look forward to the treadmill every day. Have spent the last 15 years making little changes...quit smoking in 1997, don't eat pork at all and very little red meat, stopped drinking sodas 4 years ago and started drinking tons of water, have walked and worked out sporadically over the years.....but getting my fats, carbs, calories, sodium, and proteins all within the range that SP gave me is the key to my losing. Couldn't have done it without that tracker!!! I love it.


At 144 I will be within my acceptable weight range, and no longer "overweight."

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I can't imagine that I will ever get to intuitive eating. My mouth stays hungry long after my stomach is full!

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I am so out of touch with my body that I am just beginning to discover what it feels like when I am hungry or when I just want to eat for some other reason. Right at this moment, I need to track diet and exercise. Eventually my goal is to intuitively eat at a healthy weight.




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History:
* Lost a little over 50 pounds using Weight Watchers over 10 years ago. Since then I've put back on 5-6 of those pounds. My original weight loss was going from 172 to 120 (plus some time spent below 120, where it was too low). I am currently wavering between 124-126, which is a safe range.

* Up until a year ago I was trying to get back to 120. I liked WW when I was doing it, but was feeling restricted. Started counting calories using Spark probably 3 or so years ago.

* A little over a year ago I decided I had had enough. I changed over to Intuitive Eating, and I have never been happier. I will admit - I have given up on trying to get back down to that original goal weight. I prefer to be not driving myself nuts trying to get somewhere, and then spend too much mental energy trying to stay there. No thank you.

* To those who make jokes about intuitively eating sweets all day long, it's true - at first it's like a freedom. Goodness knows I had a couple bags of red Twizzlers disappear faster than they should have. That passes. I still eat the fruits/vegetables that I learned to love using WW plus I eat MODERATE amounts of sweets.

* I still plan my meals and most of my snacks. But when I am actually, physically hungry I don't deny myself. The most important piece is that I have learned to recognize that physical hunger. Or maybe it's that my emotional hungers don't come as often, because I don't deny them.

* I still struggle with guilt, there is no doubt. The scale can still make me feel bad - if I let it. Most of the time I don't. There are definitely still times when I feel extraordinarily hungry even after eating "a lot" (not really), and it's hard to get myself to remember - if I am hungry, eat now, or run the risk of not being able to recognize hunger cues later.

* I am approaching a challenging time. I run a good amount - I am just finishing up HM training for a race on 5/5. I've been averaging 30+ miles per week since the beginning of the year, and I've been upping that, getting to totals such as this week's 50 miles. At the beginning of June I will be training for a back to back challenge - a half marathon on a Saturday, a full on a Sunday. I will be running A LOT and upping my strength training. I will feel extraordinarily hungry. I will just have to remind myself - "Eat when you are hungry; stop when you are not".

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the surest way to a stomach ache for me is to eat an apple and an orange in the same sitting, or to drink milk and eat a cheesestick in the same sitting. I space the fruit and the dairy about an hour apart.

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I enjoyed reading everyone's comments about this. I think intuitive living is all about paying attention to our own needs and fulfilling those needs in the best way we can. This is something I am striving for when I am not avoiding myself and ignoring my needs. If I were able to tune into my body and its needs and respond appropriately to those needs then I would not be 50+ pounds over weight and would be much happier in my life.

Good luck to you on your journey.

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I can only maintain this way, not lose. To lose, I need to be tracking in some way, and limiting myself to some extent.

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If you are very tuned in to yourself and your body, it may work...the problem is most of us have no clue about what we really need...good luck with this approach!

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This sounds like a lovely way to eat.

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My intuition too often tells me to eat gummy bears.


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Hahahahhahaahhahaha! So true...except in my case it's chocolate covered anythig! emoticon

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Intuitive eating for me would be ice cream 24/7. and chocolate the rest of the time.
I need a plan to follow. I need someone to tell me the plate needs to be 50% veggies - that is not intuitive to me at all. So I'll keep on reading articles, until sensible eating becomes intuitive! emoticon

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I wish I could eat healthy intuitively, but nope I cannot, I would eat the left side of the menu, so I plan my food with a dietician.

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I think there is no magic to "intuitive eating".

Not all intuition from everybody in every topic is useful or correct.

Intuition on a topic from a person heavily trained in that topic is extremely useful.

So if you have training in what is right for human body to consume and in what quantity, your intuitive eating will be successful in that it will help you stay lean and healthy.

But if you know next to nothing in human nutrition, or know it wrong, your intuitive eating will not help you lead a healthy life.

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My intuition too often tells me to eat gummy bears.


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Back in the late 80's I was in a group at church that followed Gwen Shamblin's Weigh Down Workshop. It basically followed an intuitive eating idea. Eat only when you have true hunger and stop when you are satisfied (not FULL) I lost 30 pounds but it takes as much discipline to eat this way then any other way of eating. There were days in the beginning when I only ate junk but eventually I craved vegetables and fruit. I think whatever works for you!

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I wasn't for sure what this meant so I researched it...reject diet mentality, honor your hunger,
make peace with food, challenge the food police, respect your fullness, respect your body, honor your feeling without using food, discover the satisfaction factor. Something to really think about and I mean that. If you have the right mindset, you can practice all of them.

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i have never really heard this term before but i am guessing that it means your body will crave foods that contain the nutrients that it needs/is low on? i think maybe with some people (most?) this could work to an extent, but i know many people who "hate" so many foods (read - fruits and vegetables) that even though their body is certainly in need of those types of foods, they would never be willing to eat them much less crave them. is NOT eating intuitively a "learned behavior"?



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I never had a problem with this until I hit about 40-ish. Then the combination of lifestyle changes, financial and family stresses and physical issues all seemed to hit at once. The reality is by now I probably couldn't eat "intuitively" the way I used to because my body and daily physical work have changed so thoroughly. I have to learn all over again what I really need because somewhere in the back of my brain, I am hearing a voice saying I can eat whatever I want!

I never ate junk food, but I always had quite an appetite. I ate like a man. I STILL have quite an appetite. I'm trying to figure out how to increase the energy expenditure/decrease the food intake so that I am never overweight again.

Edited to add: the one thing that has helped the most with decreasing food intake is to just LET myself be hungry and eat fairly large meals during the day but to make any food intake after dinner be completely off limits. I used to be a habitual midnight snacker. No more!

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emotional eating (like the poster below) is too hard for me. I am working through that.



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I have a long history of eating disorders and intuitive eating is the only thing that doesn't trigger me.

When I follow the actual proper guidelines of Intuitive Eating, or Paul McKenna's I Can Make You Thin (which is much the same) I eat far less and generally lose weight at a nice steady pace without counting calories, without being obsessed by food and what I am eating and most importantly without triggering me into bingeing, purging or restricting in dangerous ways.

It is an incredible way to get back in tune with your emotions, with your body, with hunger and satiety cues. It takes a reasonable amount of effort to do properly, there is a LOT more to it than just eating whatever you want.

I am currently doing ICMYT, or IE, as well as tracking the calories of what I eat just so I have an idea...

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i so agree i have a problem with good fats and bad fats but since getting this program it is gettig easier and i am having fun with it

i keep reminding myself i am doing this for myself and noone else.


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Hi, Nickycrane! How are you doing with working in protein and fiber, things that might help you stay fuller and keep your blood sugar stable. Also, are getting enough good fats? Sometimes too little fat can lead to feeling unsatisfied. Just a couple thoughts. I would agree, though, it's sure good to listen to your body - if it's saying it's truly hungry, it needs to be fed.

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I have always had a weight problem (since 6). I always will. when I say that I mean that the so-called bmi weight is dangerous for me. even at my smallest,everyone thought I weighed 120, I weighed 135. I wore a size 7-9.

so . . . my goal is to go down to a maintainable size 10-12.

but the thing is, I've been at this since 15. I have just RECENTLY (happy dance) have gotten to the point where I can't eat when I'm sad. I just can't. I wait. then when the feeling is gone i eat (I'm usually soooo hungry by then).

I still have problems with comfort eating. just these blah feelings where I just want comfort, comfort, comfort


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Discovering satisfying meals that work within my nutritional range is exciting, and planning a day of meals has actually become *empowering* for me :-)

The process is becoming more intuitive the longer I go at this, though. Through experimentation I'm learning what "supplies" I need to stock my kitchen.

I enjoy tracking during this stage.



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After losing almost 20 lbs with SparkPeople, I decided the hard part was done, I only had 10 pounds to go, so with my new knowledge of portion sizes, balancing proteins/fats/carbs, and nutritious food, I tried intuitive eating.

After 6 months, I had not lost any weight, though I didn't gain any either. Since my goal is still to lose a bit more weight I'm back to tracking everything and feeding numbers through a calculator, but once I get to maintenance I would like to try intuitive eating again. As others have said I think it's a bad idea for starting out - 2 years ago "intuitive eating" for me was in excess of 2500 calories a day, most of it perfectly healthy food! (I honestly wondered why I was gaining weight when I was eating salmon, rice, and salads. 8 oz of salmon, rice slathered with butter, and a salad with cheese and cream based dressing and egg and bacon. Healthy. Yeah.)

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I think it depends on your weight/eating history. I've noticed that most of the proponents of "intuitive eating" are people who did not have a weight problem in childhood. They're people who either never had much of a problem, or who gained weight suddenly in adulthood after an illness, an emotional trauma, or just a lifestyle change. For example, one of the authors of an intuitive eating book (I can't remember which one) is a doctor who gained 40 pounds during medical school and internship because he never had time to exercise or plan/cook/eat healthy meals instead of grabbing junk from vending machines.

If you're that kind of person, then intuitive eating should work. You had reasonably good eating habits at one time, and you just need to find your way back to that mindset, while maybe adding a few new good habits. You have the instincts and just need to use them.

But some people, like me, have always battled weight, since infancy. If I eliminated all junk food from my environment so that the only food I could access was 100% healthy, and then I ate whatever my body told me to eat from among those good foods, I would eat too much and be overweight. That's the way my instincts are set-- and in fact, that's probably the natural state of human beings. We're NOT designed to know when to stop eating; we're designed to eat whatever we can eat when there's food available, so that we're ready for the times when there is no food or when gathering and preparing food burns more calories than the food provides. For most of human history, there was no need for any instinct that told us to stop. If you're one of the rare people who have developed that instinct, use it! But for most people, the natural intuition is to eat more than our not-so-natural lifestyle requires. When you're living in a non-natural environment, there's nothing wrong with needed non-natural tools to substitute for instincts that haven't adapted yet.



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Really? That's so interesting.. I wonder if the same will happen to me... I'm trying my best, although it gets a bit discouraging when you aim to eat within your calorie range and then fail at times to do so...



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Hi emoticon .

I, too, used to have no control over my eating especially in the evenings. Right now I'm going into my Spark page in the morning and planning the meals and snacks I'm going eat during the day. I plan my breakfast, lunch, dinner and snacks and enter it on my Nutrition page. I check to be sure I have the food on hand, and if I have to eat during the day somewhere besides home, I pack it and bring it with me. I try to balance my calories throughout the day between my 3 meals, and I'm finding if I know what I'm going to eat when I'm going to eat it, it's easier for me not to just grab whatever is handy - which is usually something high in calories, fat and sugar. I try not to have those food available in my home, and when they are available at work- I try to stick with the meal I know I already have on hand.

Good luck to you. I hope you find something that will work for you. - I used to do what I call "stress eat", if I was mad, bored, tired, scared or not sure what I felt - I'd turn to food. Now I'm trying to learn to identify my feelings and figure out how to deal with them in a healthier manner. Usually it involves me re-thinking the situation and looking at what evidence I have to support my negative thought, and try to see if there is evidence that my thought isn't true and then honoring my initial emotion and considering the alternative emotion or thought what is most likely to be really true and is there something I can do to resolve it, or is it something beyond my control. If it's beyond my control, then I know I have to let it go - and know it's not about me. Sometimes it helps just to change my location - like go into another room, or if I'm at work - go down the hall or climb the stairs. That helps me get out of my thinking rut and changes how I feel. emoticon

I hope my sharing what seems to be working for me will be of some help for you. Take what you like and leave the rest. One day at a time, one step at a time. Small changes are progress. emoticon



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I used to track everything, which helped me learn a lot. But I've come to realize it doesn't need to be so complicated.

I have found when since I switched my diet to one based on real whole foods like 50% vegetables, 25% meats, 25% fats (by volume not caloric content) at each meal and some low GI fruit with minimal sweets and treats I am able to eat until full and I don't have to track each morsel that goes into my mouth. I have also lost a few pounds, which I am not trying to do but hey I'll take it.

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I'm getting hungry, really hungry, so am choosing to go above the upper end of my calorie guidelines. The scales continue to stay stable or go down, though I'm now on weight maintenance!



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I feel as though I do not have control over my eating patterns. It's really bad and I don't know how to change it. Does anyone have any suggestions?



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real radiant you are RIGHT on the money. for me measuring blah blah blah actually makes me more compulsive and I end up falling right back into binging

i don't know why

but just eating without recording and seeing ALL those numbers I feel more at peace with my eating. most of the time anyways.



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I think it's important to try lots of different methods until you find the one that works for you. I totally wish I could be an intuitive eater, but I am too much of a compulsive eater for that to work for me. Every time I tried the experiment of intuitive eating, I always would overeat. But I have friends who can do it just fine and it totally works for them.

What's working for me now is to plan my food, weigh and measure my food and eat what I've planned. I've eliminated all personal trigger and binge foods. It makes me feel the most free of my obsession and compulsion with the food.

I love what I'm eating right now. I tend to eat the same thing day after day until I get sick of what I'm eating and I change it up.

Good luck on your path. It's so important to experiment and find what works for you.



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I would seriously die if I tried to eat intuitively! I have anorexia.


You are right, mindful eating is a better choice for people with disordered eating (binge eating), and eating disorders NOT intuitive eating. There are tons of workbooks and books about eating mindfully.

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okay I guess mindful eating is much better and probably more realistic lol

I try to to be at least. and sometimes I realize I depend too much on eating everything off my plate. and if I wait too long to eat i eat with my eyes more than my stomach. sigh.



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I personally believe that our bodies are designed to live this way. If you treat your body right (eat the right kinds of foods and don't over or under eat), they will tell you when to eat and how much. Your cue to eat is hunger, and your cue to stop is satiety. However, it takes a lot of discipline, and people who have made a lifestyle out of eating outside of healthy bounds may find that their bodies don't quickly respond to this.

I think it's ideal but hard to do. Good for you for trying it!

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Okay, this is my little soap box moment on "Intuitive eating".
The first time I read something where someone (a SP leader) claimed they were an 'intuitive eater' -- I was actually sort of offended. I like and understand the idea though -- and I do agree that eventually you need to get to the point where you crave and eat the nutrients that your body needs. But maybe "mindful eater" would be more appropriate. I think mindful eating is more in tune with what many of us struggle with here -- knowing what to eat, and choosing the healthy options/portions etc, rather than imply that one simply never thinks of what they are eating and they just naturally eat healthy. I don't think many people here are able to relate to that sort of "intuitive eating".

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I think it's an individual thing. While it may work for some,it will never work for me. I am one of those who's eating habits have all kinds of baggage attached and I don't have enough years left to resolve ALL my issues with food.
I "intuitively" know I have to watch myself very closely.

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When I left home and went to college I lost 30 pounds....got away from my mother's cooking and demand to eat everything on my plate. I kept it off and lost the weight gained from having kids by listening to what my body needed and thinking of food as something to keep me alive rather than happy. Happy could be found in other ways. Then an injury and menopause struck and I stopped paying attention. So those 30 pounds have found there way back. I'm tracking calories and exercising and the mindful or intuitive voice is coming back. It takes effort, but it does work. This time around, I want to enjoy the food instead of thinking of it almost like medicine.


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It seems to work for some, I don't think I'm at the stage yet where I would be successful at it.

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My journey includes moving back to Louisiana from Dallas and being reintroduced to all the carbs in the world when every meal includes rice. This has been going on for 20 years. At first you have missed the Louisiana cruizine and you feel you have to make up for loss time, then b4 you know it, its a habit you have gained 50 + pounds 5 years turns into 10 and 10 into 20. In essessence it remains a struggle to go back to healthy eating with Gumbo and crawfish etoufee now a daily option....who can choose salad....aaaaah....:)

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May you not forget the infinite possibilities that are born of Faith in Yourself and others. May you use the gifts that you have received & pass on the Love that has been given to you.


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4/16/13 3:53 P

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well I guess I should have mentioned I have been trying to be healthy since 15. I have re-started getting serious with health in june 2011. so not totally new. its been a very long journy.

trust me I have had my bouts of unstopable eating, binging on sweets, etc.



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To me, intuitive eating means trusting myself to give my body what it needs. So often we eat when we are not hungry that we don't know how to listen to what our bodies really need and want. Geneen Roth has some useful books on the subject . I especially liked "when you eat at the the refrigerator pull up a chair".

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I think Bubble is right. Intuitive eating is actually a smart thing, because our bodies were designed to tell us what we SHOULD have. However, after years of not taking care of ourselves, our bodiees might craved junk food the way an addict craves drugs or alcohol. SO, I think if you start feeding yourself healthy foods, and get used to eating healthier, then add on the intuitive, you will be right on goal. I know it does work for me!!! (now that I have lost some of my addictions!!!)

And like another poster said, if I feel like eating chocolate or junk all day, I know that is my mind, not my body telling me what to eat!!!

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4/16/13 7:11 A

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I found that as long as I don't want to intuitively eat chocolate all day long that it works for me. I eat when I'm hungry, don't when I'm not. I eat what I want, but limit portion sizes and I tend to prefer healthy foods anyway. It can work.

~Jess~

There are no shortcuts. No magic bullets. No secret spells. What works is hard work, dedication, and a daily dose of chocolate.


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i think it's a really bad starting strategy, but it's something to work towards.

-google first. ask questions later.

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Not quite sure what you mean.
If I were to just choose things that I 'think" I want - I'd likely not eat very well balanced menus.

I might be inclined to fill up on any one given category - grains, protein, fruit, etc.

Glad it's working for you. You must be well informed, and able to regulate your choices better than I likely could.

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I have recently started exploring intuitive eating. so far so good my experiment with it is awesome. i am learning a lot of things about myself. However, I don't think its THE smoking gun for eating healthy. theres more stuff to it too


what are your guys thoughts/opinions/experiences?



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