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2/17/14 5:59 P

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I'm vegan and enjoy a variety of cooked and raw plant foods, but I've extensively studied raw cuisine. fascinating and delicious!

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2/17/14 9:22 A

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Good for you if that's what works for you. I personally have no intention of giving up hot meals, or meat. (And I'm with you MISSRUTH, if I suggested it to my husband he'd have a stroke.) But health and weight-loss are highly individual matters, and we all have a slightly different route to success. Glad you're feeling so much better.

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2/17/14 6:24 A

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I believe in a raw foods diet with the occasional inclusion of meat for the following reason; please feel free to correct me if I am mistaken in any way. Vitamin B12 is an essential nutrient for survival and cannot be found in any raw vegan source. All pure raw vegans must supplement this vitamin indicating that the diet is not sufficiently meeting all the bodies' needs.

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2/17/14 5:21 A

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@ondiet25 Honey isn't vegan.

I just finished a month-long vegan challenge with some friends and while I was able to eat nutritious, interesting food, I found it a struggle to get enough protein. Partially that is because I live in a place where nutritional supplements are nonexistent. If you are living in the US or Europe, it would be much easier. I am not a real believer in the health benefits of a vegan diet, I did it as an experiment in mindfulness, although I do respect the moral values of people who chose to live a vegan lifestyle.

I also would love to see any good science from raw vegans explaining why this is a better diet than any other. As of yet, I have not found any reputable scientific journal or peer-reviewed research that suggests that eating a raw vegan diet is better for human health. Anecdotal evidence is not what I am looking for, so while I am happy that you look and feel great, I would really like to see some science.



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2/17/14 2:25 A

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for baby food ( which I love myself:P) you can grade one peeled apple, one banana (mashed), plus honey and cinnamon . You can also add some nuts to it.



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10/22/13 3:06 P

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Good for you! I wish that I could go back to eating vegan, but due to some health issues it just doesn't work for me.

Be careful if you go off of the raw diet though. A friend of mine did raw foods for several years...but as soon as she went off of the diet, she gained 40 pounds ridiculously fast--and on a small frame.

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10/22/13 1:49 P

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The difference between vegan and vegetarian is that vegans eat no animal products. Where a vegetarian may eat dairy and eggs for protein

I understand that a vegan doesn't even use table sugar because it is processed using animal products

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Even though I have reached goal. I still don't know everything about weight loss.

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10/22/13 2:36 A

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Congratulations. Glad you found what worked for you.

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what is the difference between vegan and vegetarian? Recently I've to a plant based diet. interesting. I never was sensitive to any foods. I was never a junk food addict. I never could afford to be. I was brought up on a health diet and brought my children up the seam.

For quite awhile I had eaten very little meat and fish. Atlantic Salmon - farm feed - pink or red dye has to be injected to make them look natural. Just the though of it made me sick. Anyway, so this wasn't a big change for me. Next I gave up milk and yogurt. The change I felt was almost immediately. Stupid me --- if the chemical are changing the food the cows eat of course it's changing the milk, butter, cream, cheese, yogurt and we have known for quite awhile beef.
Plant based is working for me. I'm feeling great and losing weight!!! Age 76

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Vegan diets are not superior to omnivorous diets, nor are omnivorous diets superior to vegan diets. ;)

The beautiful thing about the human body is that it can tolerate and thrive on a variety of diets! You don't have to be vegan to be healthy, and you don't have to be omnivorous to get your nutrition needs met.

It's all about how you do it, and your individual needs, desires, and lifestyle.

For me, a vegan (or even vegetarian) is just not feasible nor desirable.

Vegans can overeat and eat unhealthy, highly processed foods ad have nutritional deficiencies. Omnivorous eaters can eat super healthy, socially conscious and well maintained diets.

The beautiful thing is no one is right or wrong; it's all about finding what works for you. Being healthy isn't a one-sized-fits-all zero-sum game, and thank goodness!

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2/10/13 1:58 P

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I've been vegan for about 5 years and was vegetarian for about 4 before that. I think what mostly keeps me going are the environmental, moral, ethical dimensions of eschewing meat products. I don't think it's necessarily the most natural or healthy diet, but I do think my diet is healthier than most. I also found that I became much more of a foodie after becoming vegetarian and moving out of my parents' house. I've tried so many new fruits & veggies & spices & ethnic cuisines. You tend to get pretty creative with your meals.

I would echo the concerns about trying to raise a child as a raw vegan. However, I know plenty of cases of children growing up on a vegan diet. As a parent, you just should be super aware of the nutrients they are getting and what they need the most.

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2/7/13 12:18 P

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I bought the Engine 2 diet book because my doctor used this diet for a month (lost 8 pounds without 'dieting') and looked fantastic - forget the health aspect, he looked great!

Whether vegan diets are better for your health or not (my doctor heard a talk given at a medical conference, and that got him started), it's hard for me to make the change. I am practically vegetarian as it is. There's a lot to know, a lot to be aware of. It's not just dropping whole food groups that makes something healthy.

One thing: vegan cooking and vegan dishes are wonderfully creative and tasty. If you think potatoes and onions are the kings of the vegetable kingdom, you're in for a surprise after you read a vegan, raw vegan, or vegetarian cookbook!

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Wow! Congrats on your self-discipline! This is a topic that has always intrigued me, so I'm so glad you posted. I'm definitely going to check out those movies on Netflix.

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I admire those of you that can adhere to this style of living. To much work for me, but I think if you can do it right and it works. More power to you.

Made it to my maintenance weight of 125 pounds.

Even though I have reached goal. I still don't know everything about weight loss.

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2/7/13 9:05 A

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Well. Netflix is not free. You have to subscribe/be a member/ pay money.

I'm not vegetarian nor vegan. We don't eat as much meat as we used to, but my husband would have a stroke if I suggested we never eat meat. I've done well, to wean him off the fried foods and vegetables cooked in bacon grease.

I so totally agree with Becky; there is a lot of planning that needs to go into raw vegan. I don't know that I think it's suitable for a 2 year old. You may wish to speak with your child's pediatrician and maybe even get a referral to a registered dietician, to make sure you cover all the bases for what young children need, nutritionally. There was a case in Tennessee some time back where the parents went about a raw diet, including their very young child, and did not take nutritional needs into consideration. There were other factors involved too, but the child died and the issue of what they did and did not feed him, was a big part of the case against them.

I'm not saying that's what would happen, but you'd surely feel bad if a raw vegan diet screwed up his/her bone growth or teeth formation or something else, that can't be undone later.

Personally I'd really find raw vegan hard-- I love a good hot meal at least once a day, especially in the wintertime.



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2/6/13 11:15 P

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I don't know that making a toddler a raw vegan is a good idea to begin with. Ive been vegetarian for over 10 years, and while I think vegan and raw vegan can be amazing diets for adults, a child is in a completely different place in their growth and development. A vegetarian child, or a vegan child might be happy and healthy, I think there should a limit to how far you take it. Maybe wait until they are closer to adolescence to go raw vegan with them. As another poster stated, some things release more vitamins when they are cooked. Also, a toddler isn't going to understand the moral, ethical or health reasons to make that choice. It wouldn't be their choice. Maybe it should be.

To the original poster, Veg-ucated was a great vegan documentary as well!

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Glad that you find something that works for you. I'm a vegetarian, tried going vegan but decided a vegetarian diet was good enough for me.

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There are many eating plans that are healthy and meet a person's nutritional needs and food preference needs. The more restrictive a diet--the more careful planning is necessary---and a raw vegan diet falls in this category. It is not for everyone, nor should it be. It requires careful planning. However, a raw vegan diet is not "superior" to other eating plans that include meat or cooked foods.

It is an inaccurate statement that meat protein is more difficult to digest---it may take longer for certain foods to be digested and broken down---but this does not mean that it is more difficult. Digestion time is not a sign of being better or healthier for a person.

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2/6/13 2:10 P

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My husband is vegan. I'm a vegetarian and I'm thinking of going raw vegan. The only problem is that I have a toddler and I'm not sure what to feed her. She's already vegan but I don't know how to get her to eat raw. She won't be eating 100% raw as I won't ask the daycare to do that but.. still... how do you make a raw dinner that a 2 year old will eat?
Suggestions?

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I'm not a raw vegan, but I have been vegetarian for almost 5 years now and it really really irritates me when people ask how I can really be healthy when I don't get any protein or iron. And the simple thing is (that alot of people don't get) is that I actually get MORE protein and iron than they probably even do because I am very careful and I watch what I eat. There is tons of substitutes out there and I take advantage of them. It is SO good for you if you do it right! I know what you're saying about feeling SO much better! I lost 20 pounds right aways(not as much as you) but I still lost alot because I wasn't dumping any nasty stuff into my body. And with NO exercise!



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Some vegies have more nutrients when cooked.

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I respect people who can do such things, but it's not in the cards for me. ;) I'm a bit too much of a devoted carnivore, and my family would never be on board with that. I'm glad you've had good luck!

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YEAHHHHH!!! Another raw vegan. went that lifestyle two years ago and love it. Never run out of anything to eat. Always new exciting ways to make veggies taste amazing (rawmazing). I get plenty of protein myself. I get good healthy fats. I am learning to curb my nut intake. Love my smoothies and juices.
I may not be near my ideal weight yet, but I will get there. I think I lost 30 pounds in 2 months. I gained muscle. I gained great sleep quality. My skin cleared up, my nails grew, my hair grew, I have more energy. I haven't been sick in the last two years and even though that streak broke this week, this cold has not sent me to bed. i still exercise and my fruits and veggies are the best medicine. I have seen all those movies and done countless classes on line.
Welcome aboard.

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I went raw Vegan and lost 57 pounds in 3 months, I can sleep all night now, off all BP meds and other cholesterol meds :)

I have been yo-yo'ing fro the last couple years, decided to listen to my friend who has been doing it for years, I had many questions, but now I do not :)

My life is infinitely better, I sleep all night, I have high energy levels and get no 3-4pm burnout, my joints have stopped hurting so much so, I no longer need supplements like MSM or glucosamine.

Some movies for those to watch who may be interested:
Food Inc.
Forks over Knives
Food Matters

All on netflix for free :) If you are lazy and don't like to cook, then mono fruiting and smoothies are the way to go :)

People ask where I get my protein, but people like myself who lift heavy irons, mr. universe, Mac of UFC and many record holders are Raw Vegan...All life has Amino Acids, so basically I cut out a 6 hour digestion period of hard to eat proteins like Meat and Dairy...I have 18.5" biceps and all I can say is my workouts are getting better, even training for a half marathon this October :) Plant Amino Acids eliminate the middle man of proteins which are hard to digest :) If you don't believe me do the research!!!

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