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12/8/14 8:31 P

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I am doing it as well. Down 5 pounds and an inch on my waist after 2 weeks. I eat Costco's roasted seaweed when I wake up on a fast day, followed by green tea/ water throughout the day and dinner at 4:30 or 5 pm. Looking to lose 30 menopause sticky pounds and this seems to be an easy way to do it. After trying and buying tons o'diet books, found this on PBS and online and seems to be easiest and works. I like to cook, I like food, if I can improve my health by resting 2 days out of the week by eating 500 calories, I'm in.http://thefastdiet.co.uk/michael-answers-frequently-asked-questions/

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Hey everyone,So I'm trying this new 5:2 diet because 1) I hate counting calories for seven days a week, 2) I love food too much, and 3) it fits perfectly into my busy work schedule. If I pick my two diet days to be from 6pm - 6pm, how do I do this? Do I just restrict myself to 500 cals for that 24 hour period, or do I not eat anything at all til 6? I'm constantly running around, so either are doable - I just don't want to skip dinner on any days (sounds unhealthy, and miserable). Anyone have any advice? Has this worked for anyone else?



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11/8/13 11:07 A

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I posted quite a bit earlier, so this is an update after about 6 weeks.

I am doing a variation of the 5:2 diet (reader's digest variation) on my own--did not buy the book. I have two 'low' days a week,usually but not always Monday and Friday. I choose my low days according to my schedule. On those days I eat 650 calories, trying to keep those calories very high quality. I eat as close to 650 as possible.

On the other days I eat 1500 calories. Sometimes I have to work to get that many calories in because it seems like a lot of food after a 650 day. I have not cheated, probably because on the low days I just think, "C'mon, it's only one day. You can eat more tomorrow". It's still a little tough on those days, but not that bad. I tend to eat very similar foods on those days.

I started at about 142 (may have been a couple of pounds more as I had been eating way too much and was scared to weigh myself. The first week I lost about 4 pounds--typical for me on a new diet. The second week 2 lbs. Every week since 1.5 pounds, except one week where I stayed the same. My sister from California was visiting and we ate out a lot!

Last week I was at 130. I weigh on Saturdays, so tomorrow I'm hoping for another pound at least, and going by my clothes it's likely. Since I'm not very heavy to start with, I think this is great progress.

I am able to wear clothes I haven't worn in years--and some of my old clothes are way to0 big. Yay! My goal is 115 (I'm 5'3" and small-boned; this is 10 lbs. over my high school weight) but will be fine with 120. I am 68.

I can exercise just fine, but usually do something mild, like walking, on the low days.

This seems like a 'miracle' diet to me--I just have struggled for years with other eating plans and just cannot seem to eat moderatly all the time. I realize this is a failing of mine, but it's reality.

At a maintenance level I will experiment with different scenarios, like increasing calories on up days or going to only one low day to see what works.

I think this is a diet I can do long term; probably because of my personality, which feels deprived if I have to 'diet' all the time.

Good luck to everyone who is trying something similar. I know it won't be right for everyone, but it sure is working for me.



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11/7/13 2:53 P

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Hello I'm new to all these forums and I'm not sure if I've 'joined' this or just jumped in. Apologies if I should do something else. I've been doing 5:2 for 5 and a quarter months. Sad to say it doesn't work for me at all. No weight loss, BUT my BP is down from too high to normal and my cholesterol is down. So those are two positives. My problem is I still need to lose weight and I really don't know what else I can do. I think I've tried every diet known to woman, but nothing works. I even told my doctor i couldn't lose weight and she said .......... Nor can I! NOT helpful!
So, back to 5:2. I do all that's advised - 500 cals on fast days and keep within TDEE on other days. Nothing shifts. Has anyone any tips (and apologies for the long post).

Beth.

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10/17/13 9:11 P

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question for you all on fast days - do you work out? I'm having a great exercise "run" - lots of spin classes, running, lifting weights - and I'm loathe to mess it up. My issue is that I haven't lost any weight - I can see that the muscle is likely growing, but I really need a victory here in terms of weight loss. I think I could do a 5:2 pretty easy on work days, but I worry that I'd have to cut back on working out, at least on those days, and I really am enjoying being highly active six days a week.



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10/13/13 10:07 A

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I started doing this last and it is helping...

Here is a good website about it -
thefastdiet.co.uk/

I also did the 4:3 version of it years ago and it "cured" my asthma.

You can do the fasting days back to back, or consecutively. I never could fathom doing them consecutively before, But I did do it that way last week and i think it was powerful for me. It seemed to jump-start my metabolism back to a fat-burning that lasted even on my normal days (I weight daily). I did back to back partial fasts of about 400 calories each day.



Mary

PS To my old SP friends - It's been a very rough journey... My beloved, healthy, athletic, tall, dark and handsome husband died in August 2012 from a very aggressive cancer... In the many months caring for him I was stressed and didn't "care" anymore, and put back on 30 pounds I had just finished losing... And then I gained even more...

A short, but very sweet, video tribute to this beautiful man:
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9/5/13 5:26 P

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For me, I stop eating by 8 pm the night before. The next day, I do not eat anything at all until 5 pm, but I drink lots of water, green tea and herb tea. At 5 pm I break my fast with an apple or other high fiber fruit, followed by a healthy, complete, low calorie meal that does not exceed 500 calories including the fruit I eat before dinner. If I get hunger pangs after dinner, I distract myself by reading until I go to sleep.

I find it easier and more satisfying to eat one full evening meal than to parse out a few calories for a couple of tiny meals throughout the day.


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9/4/13 8:53 P

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Hi! I've been looking at this diet. Do you do your FAST days from morning til night? I have read that you can start it one day and pick up where you left off the next day. Sounds like some people do it from lunch time one day until lunch time the next. What is working for you??Glad you are having success!

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9/2/13 4:55 P

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I have tried every diet ever devised on planet earth. I had success with the SparkPeople plan for the first time in my life, but I could not reach my goal weight. Even with strict calorie counting and extra exercise, my weight would not budge.

I saw the Dr. Michael Mosely special on PBS, researched pros and cons on the internet including the UK university research, and lifelong research of 94-year old nutrition pioneer, Stanley Bass, who incidentally is still working. After weighing all of the evidence, I decided to give the 5-2 plan a try.

I am now on my third week and I am thrilled with the results so far. Yes, I have lost weight but more importantly, most of it has been belly fat. Other unexpected side effects include greatly reduced joint pain and stiffness and sharper mental processes. The so-called fasting days are really just two days of restricted calories, no more than five hundred for women. Although you can eat whatever you want the other five days, I find my cravings have been greatly reduced as a result of the fast days.

For those who have such strong opinions about something they have not personally researched or tried, I suggest having a more open mind.


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8/22/13 2:54 A

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Hi if you have persistent pain, you should see the doctor. It could be a number of different things that can become serious over time - or nothing at all. Anyway chronic pain is usually sign that you have to fix or change something. You should get checked out. Did you lift any heavy objects?



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8/15/13 4:54 P

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Thanks CFELTS for writing...and others. I agree....put the HCG to rest. I hope my husband will try this soon. My daughter who is over 300 is going to try it. I am losing slow but trying to be ok with that and trying to not weigh myself so often. This week-end will be a challenge but my fast days are Mon/Thursday. I'm also trying to eat pretty healthy on the other 5 days.

One ongoing issue I'm having (not related to 5:2) is: The right side of my (gut)...I'll call it always seems to ache. They did remove a kidney stone over a year ago but the gut ache never seems to go away and I do think some food make it worse. Any thoughts as a suggestion?
Thanks much for hanging in there with me and others. We need your input.



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8/12/13 1:13 A

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Cridle1- it is not normal to have the symptoms you describe when not eating for 20 hours. Unless you know you have another condition explaining it, you may have hidden food allergies. Look online for "rotation diet" and "food allergies" for ideas about how to pin down such allergies and deal with them. I used to have similar symptoms when I was eating my major allergens (one of which I was eating at almost every meal, I was basically getting withdrawal symptoms). Within a couple of weeks after eliminating my allergens, I could easily skip a meal without feeling anything but normal hunger.

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This doesn't sound too drastic, actually. 600 calories is actually considered the lowest you should go to avoid burning protein. The higher limits (1200 cal for women, 1500 cal for men) are averages assuming you can't get sufficient nutrients (macro and micro) otherwise long term and don't even apply well to smaller adults. It depends on your individual needs. Some people wouldn't do well with 5:2 but others might find it restful. I quite naturally have some days when I don't eat a lot, especially when very busy; my appetite and digestion tend to shut down under stress but come back when the project is done. There is a lot of natural variation in eating patterns. Other mammals in the wild are pretty much following this diet, especially the carnivores who have good hunting days and poor hunting days. There are indeed animal studies on calorie restriction that have attracted attention as a therapeutic and preventative health strategy, but I thought they were not intermittent (e.g., 90% of normal rations long-term). In humans, therapeutic fasts especially are generally done for much longer periods and the body does go into a fasting state (for real fasts) which operates differently than just one day of calorie restriction, which really isn't a fast. Generally it takes a few days of real water fasting for the switch to occur. The body certainly can survive on low rations just a day or two per week - we store nutrients well enough for that, including the amino acids needed for building our proteins for repair work. So unless you're underweight or have blood sugar problems or other medical conditions contraindicating it, experimenting won't hurt you. Just pay attention to your body and adapt the plan acccordingly.

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8/11/13 1:44 P

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NELLJERRY I had two friends who tried that HCG 2 years ago and gained that and more when they got off of it. One of them had to stop it for medical reasons. Apparently her bloodwork did not come out good.

My son and I watched a movie called "Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead" on Netflix and on 1/3/2013 we started juicing all of our food. It was hard at first and on day 3 got a nasty headache as our bodies started flushing out the toxins at record level. But on day 4 woke up without a pain in our bodies. My son went on to loose 50 pounds in 3 months. I only lost 30 at the time, but went on to loose 37 pounds. With the help of 5/2 way of eating I am now at 40 pounds.

Now that my son and I dont live together it has been challenging for both of us to keep up with juicing.

The only thing I can say about HCG is I have thrown that into the fad diet file and will never attempt that myself.



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Hello from Chicago. Thank you DIANEHELEN for the links- yummy. Will buy that julienne peeler right away and try the zoodles (zuchinni noodles).

nomnompaleo.com/post/5695132949/zucchini-s
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8/9/13 10:21 P

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Thanks ladies: Your posts really encouraged me. I need to get over my fixation of weighing every day. I've decided to weigh only 1 day a week. I've been weighing every day since on the HCG back in 2011...that's just not a good choice. I pray I will bypass the scale. Weird to allow it to have so much control...not a good thing. I may have to ween myself down starting w/ 2 days a wk. I'd like to shoot for approx. 26 lbs off in a year...putting it as 1/2 lb avg. a wk. I would be under the 'ugly' number I call it...200 by a few lbs. That would be good news and I would be much healthier. My dr. suggested this program to me and he's on it and he never goes for any diets. I choose to call it a 'food plan'. Thank you so much. Please keep posting here as I need it....have a great week-end. It's beautiful in Green Bay, Packer city USA tonight. Our 1st preseason game. I better get there it's almost over...on TV. Let's continue to encourage each other. Thank you to each of you/nellie



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8/9/13 4:11 P

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I started the 5/2 on march 1st and have lost 18 lbs. I'll never go off it, since I saw the documentary that started the diet, "Eat, Fast and Live Longer". I really believe those low calorie days help my cells repair. My weight loss at this point is very slow, less than a half pound a week, but I"m fine with that, since I am eating lots of "celebratory food" as I enjoy summer activities. I just know, I'll continue to go down in weight as long as I fast two days a week. susan


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Dear Nell, I also struggled during my first month or so of fasting, but then I adapted - for me the most important thing is to keep busy during fast days, so I can't obsess about the food. 3,4lbs is pretty decent for only 10 days! Just hang in there - it gets easier when you get used to it :-)



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have heard of it but havent tried it

thanks to God I will not fail


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Andreja: thanks for responding to the HCG subject. I do want my hubby to lose weight again but not that way. It is healthy food but so boring. Nothing to look forward to. Today my 4th fast day. It's been very hard today. I'm thinking I'm eating too little on feast days as I am trying to keep under 2000 calories and I just wanted more food all day today. I did pretty good and best go to bed now before I slip and eat somethng I should not. Otherwise it's been pretty good and I get to eat tomorrow what I want. I have lost 3.4 lbs so far (10 days). I'm ok with that. Thanks for listening.



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8/7/13 3:53 A

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I tried HCG last year, but for me it wasn't something that I could live with. I lost about 8kg in little over a month and then I just quit. The weight all came back really fast - and then some :-( I think it is good if you want to kick start your weightloss, since you get results fast, but sadly it is quite strict and for me it just took all the joy out of food and I also felt really tired all the time I was on it. So I'll stick to fasting, I'm loosing only between 1 - 1,5kg/month now, but I get to enjoy what I eat and I can eat all the foods that I want, so I don't feel that "diet pressure"



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8/6/13 7:48 P

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I know it's only 8 days since I started but I'm liking this plan. I lost 3.4 as of today. I like your attitude. CFELTS. Keep going. You're worth it.

I was thinking today....weird, oh boy I get to fast tomorrow....that is strange isn't it. But, I have to wait another day (Thursday)... really why am I thinking like that. I think it's good though.
I have a long question. Are you familiar with the HCG diet (500 calories/ w spray). Well, hubby and I did it periodically in 2011 and 2012. Lost good and fast but hard to maintain. My hubby ask me today, do you think I should go on the HCG and when I lose 40 lbs, switch to this...I was troubled as both he and my daughter lost big on it but gained all back. High pounds. Frankly I don't ever want to do it again...not sure it's healthy w/ the spray. But I would like him to lose his weight again. He's around 350. I was hoping he'd just go on this with me but I think he wants something faster. Your thoughts...sorry so long winded. i figure anyone that can do tht plan for over 40 days which we did...could do this pretty easy. I like this plan and pray I will stick to it. Thanks for listening...over and out for now.



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8/6/13 3:23 P

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DIANEHELEN & NELLJERRY...i just finished 2nd fast day of the 5:2 plan...Im doing M & F...my busiest days at work so less time to get up and snack. I had reached a plateau in my weight loss after loosing 40 pounds from January thru July. After my 1st fast day I lost 2.2 pounds and nothing after my 2nd fast day but I woke up feeling amazing...I almost want to get bloodwork done to check my thyroid. I walked around all morning feeling thin and in turn energetic. Im sticking with this until I reach my goal weight.



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And how do you feel....this if my 1st week and I woke up this morning feeling less pressure in my chest and abdomen. emoticon



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Sounds like you are doing fine, Nellie, getting right into the groove. I think I found not eating all day until dinner actually easier, but eating a big meal made me too full. So maybe keep changing it up.

I woke up yesterday with a nasty cold, and chest congestion, ughh. Ate soup all day and today still feeling crappy.

Another fast day just aroud the corner for me, tomorrow, hopefuly I will feel better and able to cope with it.

Nellie a 2 pound loss is very decent , keep on keeping on.

OK, gonna go drink some hot tea.

Hang in there :)



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Diane & all: Wow...doing it on Sunday would be hard for me...Thanks for the recipes. I think I'll ck. them out. Well...my 1st wk on this ended with 2 lb loss. I'm ok with that. I was hungry today afternoon and evening and I didn't eat anything until about 11:00am . hummmm. Afraid I would totally blow it later today ...but, not so far.

I tried something new this evening because I wanted something sweet and good. I took fresh strawberries, put in a little Truvia granuals in it and I love the Amaretto flavoring and had bought some sugar free amaretto syrup some time back. (DaVinci) No calories, nothing but 10 mg's of sodium. Anyway I put strawberries in the blender with ice and pureed them, ..put the other 2 ingredients in it and it's very tasty shake. I really like it. It hit the spot for me helping me not to go crazy thinking I was hungry. This is my 3rd fast day. This day seemed much harder than the 1st 2 fasts?? Any thoughts. I need to plan better for the next one. Keeping it going though....thanks ...keep posting..I'm waitin for em.





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Morning 5:2ers and others.

Well its Sunday, and in my world that means fast day. I have been experimenting with making main meals for fast days that pack as much food and nutrition into my main meal for the least amount of calories. For thrusday I made a recipe for turkey stuffed zucchini that turned out to be one of the most delicious "diet type" foods Ive ever had, I found it here, and while I had to do a bit of math to convert from metric, it wasnt too hard. This is the recipe:

www.london-unattached.com/2013/07/diet-5-2
-fast-day-low-cal-stuffed-courgette/


Today I am trying another new creation, making a bolognese sauce, but instead of using pasta, Im using julienne cut zucchini, I found that here

nomnompaleo.com/post/5695132949/zucchini-s
paghetti-zoodles-meatballs


I will be using Quorn grounds for the sauce.

Other than that my new plan is not eating all day, and saving my calories for a nice dinner. Seems easier than nibbling celery, or whatever all day.

Thats my plan for now. Tomorrow is weigh in, hopeing to see some, any movement.

Have a great day 5:2ers!


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So glad you all posted. I was afraid this was going to fizzle out and I so looked forward to your postings. Please don't quit this one. Your posts really help me. I could relate to each of your comments and really appreciate the insight. It really does help to keep on. I think I'm more hungry on feast days...does that sound strange. Monday will be the start of my 2nd week of 5:2 and hoping the scale is not back up 3.2 lbs. I will still do it though. I've been weighing everyday for a year or so now since I was on the HCG diet....bummer one for keeping it off. This is so much more friendly. Suppose I should only weight once a week ?? I'm tracking my foods....I seem to do better when I do. Thank you so much for being a part of helping me and others....keep it up. I need your support! Good night/Nellie from Green Bay



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Hi, I tried 5:2 in the beginning, but i found out later that for me it is easier to do a true fast, since on 5:2 I was constantly craving for something. For me it is just easier to decide that I'm just not gonna eat for one day and later I can have all the goodies :-) Now I only drink water, tea and coffee for 24 hours. It was hard for first month or so, now I think that my body got used to this - if you believe me or not, I'm just not feeling hungry during fast days...sometimes a little bit in the morning, but it goes away after my first coffee. I must say that this really works for me.



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Thanks for the insight and tips andreaj, sounds like you have acclimated well to this lifestyle.

Do you do a true fast or the 5:2 limited calories fast

I'm also a total foodie and while I have lost loads of weight on other diets, the long term food restricting always is my downfall. I'm hoping I can really incorporate this WOE for the long term, and not have to compromise my health or love of food

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Hi everybody

I just joined spark people few days ago...but I have really good experience with fasting - this is what I do: I fast on tuesdays and fridays, since this are my busiest days and keeping busy keeps my mind off food. I had a bad knee injury few years ago and as a result I gained 16kg, since I was really active before and I just kept eating the same. Now I have permanent damage to my knee so I can't do as much cardio as I would like, so I had to do something about my eating habits. I have been on numerous different diets, but just a thought of eating so little and such bland food made me quit every time (I'm a total foodie). I started fasting 2x/week end of january and I have lost 10kg so far.
I want to share one trick with you that really works for me - before I learned this I really struggled, since it was really hard for me to keep from overeating after. The trick is to make your last meal before fast really high in protein and same goes for first meal after fast - it keeps me from overeating after. On my fast days I only drink water (LOTS OF WATER), coffee and tee. I also learned that it is really important how you plan timing of your fast I started with 5pm - 5pm, but after some experimenting I learned that - for me 10pm - 10pm works best (this also made a big difference for me) Also after about two months my skin improved - I just look better - one of my friends even asked me if I had botox (yeeey! that is a motivation booster). My doctor told me that it is because during fast days your body cleans itself.
So for me this became a lifestyle, since most of the week I can enjoy normal food and I don't have to count calories or plan meals. Once I will be back on my normal weight I will still fast once a week or once every two weeks, just to keep the weight off. It's not that hard after you get used to it, but it takes a few weeks to get used to it.



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Frogman,

It's really only low(er) carb 1 day, 2x a week. That's the beauty of it for me. I have done low carb, and I just cannot sustain it for a lifestyle.

On my feed days I eat carbs, or whatever other foods and drink ;-) I want. I eat and enjoy my ice cream, cake, pizza, wine, or anything else. But come fast days. 500 calories, THATS IT!

For now it seems to be working,



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Interesting! I have found that a lot of times eating none of something (donuts, candy) is way easier for me than trying the whole moderating thing. Maybe if your mind knows that food is off the table for the day, it is easier and you are not hungry? Or could your body just be getting used to having low-calorie days, Diane?

Yes, I am somewhat critical of the 5:2 thing just because it looks like a lowER-carb diet in disguise to me....a diet I would advocate. But, one thing I definitely know is that a good way to find success in whatever you do is to increase the feeling of control over your food choices so that that pizza/donut/candy does not call to you at 2 am. For me, that control comes from avoiding carby foods and thus keeping my blood hunger hormones low....for others, it is something else. For me, it really is easier to have NO pizza and then put some good pepperoni on a salad than to just have one slice and a nice side salad.

I lost a lot of weight and maintained it for years, then I got all stressed and busy and lost my way. Starting over from a much better place (way less to lose this time!) and making things better.


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Thats really great Nellie!

Not too hard to do, is it? I had my fast yesterday as well and did it a bit different. Instead of having my 2 small meals, and a fruit snack, I waited all day to eat. I thought it would be harder, but actually, not eating anything all day was easier. I think once you start to eat any food,. it triggers the hunger signals and makes you want to eat all day. My other fasts were not terribly hard, but challenging. Yesterday after I go to the afternoon, my hunger actually stabilized. I then made a GREAT dinner. Some really amazing recipes for this WOE, I made one I found, for turkey stuffed zucchini. They were about the best diet mode food Ive ever had. I made extra and my husband even had it for dinner and loved it.

So today I eat! But will try to keep in under some control. But I WILL have my ice cream!

Have a great day..
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Ok....listen up. Today/Thursday has been my 2nd fast day and it's been great. I lost 2.6 lbs since Monday. I know I won't continue that but...it encourages me. Not feeling weak but good.
Tuesday my blood sugars normally run 170 or so in the morning....it was only 88 Tuesday. This is a wonderful thing for me who is diabetic. I am enjoy this new way to eat. I'm expecting other good numbers as I continue this (like cholesterol, triglicerides, etc.)...Keep on getting healthier. I'm excited and need your positive feedbacks also. I gave my husband a sweet treat that I love...and did not indulge (was hard)....but then there is tomorrow and I can enjoy some of it if I choose to. Plan on eating heathier during other days but not giving up all the fun stuff. Have a great evening....it's a great one to be had! Nellie in Wisconsin



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Sounds like a great start neljerry! Just get thru the day and tomorrow EAT :-)

I had my first official weigh in since starting 19 days ago. I could not be happier. I did six 500 cal fast days and as of today I have lost 9 pounds! Very encouraged.

Frogman, sorry if I sounded harsh to you. Just your opening line calling this a gimmick set me off. Its not a gimmick and that attitude sorta upset me. Id suggest watching the video, it's really very interesting

http://vimeo.com/54089463

Ok non fast day for me, so some ice cream is calling my name

Nelljerry, have a great rest of your fast day. Post back and let me know how ya do



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Well.......it's 6:53pm and I had a great 1st day fast ...however I may hit the hay sooner tonight. I'm not hungry but would be ok with food right now. What I ate today was: 2 scrambled eggs, 1 healthy bread/60 cal., 1 tsp butter: lunch, simple salad w/ min. spray on dressing, peach; Dinner I had about 3 ounces of steak, fresh green beans and carrots. Drinking water and coffee thru out. Little over 500 calories. Hoping I choose somewhat healthy tomorrow. I know how to. Thanks Diane....Your post really encouraged me today. I have Thursday's fast planned already. I will return.
also, when I was on the HCG diet....with 500 daily calories every day...it was hard and very limited in food. One great thing I learned while on it and again today on this plan as a reminder is that how great the fruits and other foods taste when you are eating healthier. I will now love my fruits and food tastes so much better when you stop eating the sugary junk. I think this will be a good plan for me and sounds like for others. Thanks for listening.

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DIANEHELEN - you may be surprised to know that there are people on this site who do not believe in "dieting"...I am one of them, and I know there are others like me.

I have never been on a "diet" in my life and have no intention of ever doing so.

The reason I love this site is because it promotes developing a healthy lifestyle, not fad diets or ideas to get "quick wins".

And everyone is entitled to their opinion! That's what a forum is for...it's not to agree with every word everyone says...

There is no point in asking a question if you're not prepared to hear all sorts of different viewpoints...

All the best!



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I suppose it could work for some people and, as stated before, it might be a good way to get off of a plateau, but I don't know if I could spend my whole life doing it. For one, if I don't eat between breakfast at 6 am and dinner at usuallly 8pm, I'm either so cranky the world doesn't want to be around me, or I'm hallucinating. It's not pleasant, especially when I have to drive home around 6!



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I think I will give this a try if I get stuck.
I used to "fast" one day a week. I would have protein powder in milk. For me the protein powder was essential.

The journey is as important as the goal.


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Go for it. Lots of people skip meals with healthy benefits. More people should probaby skip a few meals and eat in a more moderate way. Calorie restriction has been shown to lengthen lives of pretty much every animal tested in a laboratory.

Just be aware that whenever I come across ways of living that promise scientific mumbo jumbo like switching the body's cells from 'growth mode' to 'repair mode' I have to understand that however it actually works, the people advocating it don't actually know what is going on. As a scientist, I don't remember hearing anything about those modes in my classes outside of some pretty extreme radiation experiments. I, too, heard the NPR story this morning....it kind of sounds like Frogman2013 is saying pretty much the same thing that they said.

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Wow, DianeHelen, just wow. I give an attempt at a thoughtful post as to why the 5:2 diet might actually be a good idea...for some people...and several of the other posts here soundly attack it as wrong and a fad and you pick me out of the crowd to attack? Did I say anything that Russell didn't say? Did I sound more dismissive than EMSR2D2? I think you were looking to be judged and saw my comment that suggested 5:2 isn't a first choice as criticism.

Let me be more clear....suggesting a biochemical reason why a particular diet might work and suggesting another diet (low carb) that tries to accomplish the same thing but in a way that doesn't include fasting days isn't criticism. Understanding the biochemistry behind what I eat and how I function isn't showing how smart I am (PhD in biochemistry, by the way), but is using my knowledge and understanding to see how things work.

Also, a lot of people have NEVER tried a 'standard' diet. They sit there in their cubical or school desk and see the person next to them getting thinner by getting their stomach stapled or by eating only fruit or by getting hormone injections and think they are broken and need extreme fixes like that, too. I have only tried dieting one way....it worked wonders for years until life events made danishes more appealing than health and I gained half of the weight back....and now I am going back to the thing I tried...and having success again. I have only ever tried one thing because it made biochemical sense to me. I fully understand that I am unique and that everyone else out there must try different things until they find one that works in a sustainable way...and for some people fasting two days per week might be a healthy way of doing it. There certainly is some biochemistry behind why it might work. For others, that is SP or vegan or South Beach or Weight Watchers or Dukan or Ornish or whatever.

I lost a lot of weight and maintained it for years, then I got all stressed and busy and lost my way. Starting over from a much better place (way less to lose this time!) and making things better.


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Interesting, I just saw the article on NPR about this diet. I would have to do more research but I usually think that these things are never as simple as they seem. Part of the problem, for me, is that eating bad food makes me want more bad food. I've always done better when I'm strict every single day abour what I eat.

But, there are multiple roads to the same destination and it's inteertsing to learn about them all.



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I always wonder why people post in threads that they are only there to disagree with??

Anyway, Frogman, do you REALLY believe that ANYONE on this site, has not tried other, in fact EVERY other diet in the known universe?

you said "If you haven't tried more standard diets first, try something more even first."

Really?

Anyway, this is not a gimmick, there have been very interesting trials done with this way of eating, and has been getting really great results with many people.

So, instead of trying to show off how smart you are with dieting, either do the proper research, or just do what works for you, and not participate in posts that you have no interest in.

OK, off my soap box :)



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It is totally a gimmick! But....sometimes what fails and is foolish for 90% of people do wonders for the other 10%. This actually sounds like an ok way to try getting out of a plateau.

I think the idea is basically that to lose weight you have to lose fat. You are not going to do that if you are running your metabolism purely on some 70% carbohydrate diet where your body spends all of its metabolic resources dealing with carbs instead of fats (yes, feel free to disagree with this). So, they put you on some diet that is moderate/lowER carb for 5 days a week and then kick your liver's glycogen stores by making you eat an extreme low-carb and low-calorie diet the other two. Thus, your body spends two days per week being forced to deal with fat burning instead of carb burning. This sounds like it shouldn't be harmful, but in my opinion, why not just go for the low-carb diet (or lower carb) and eat healthy every day instead of playing tricks on your metabolism two days a week? If you are stuck in a rut, go for it. If you haven't tried more standard diets first, try something more even first.

I lost a lot of weight and maintained it for years, then I got all stressed and busy and lost my way. Starting over from a much better place (way less to lose this time!) and making things better.


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Good luck to you on your first fast day Nell!

Also, its sort of a misnomer that this is called a fast. A fast, means really no food, so its hard to explain this WOE to people when you say fast. 500 calories is not a lot, but it IS enough to be considered a daily caloric intake, which negates the definition of a true fast.

Anyway, Im still very enthralled with this. I completed my 6th fast day yesterday, and was rewarded by another tick down on the scale. I just about 9 pounds down, from my start, just under 3 weeks ago.

My Sunday fast day menu was, a sugar free jello cup, a green salad with a pack of water pack tuna, some rice vinegar and about a tsp of olive oil, and an apple with 2 tbs of PB2 peanut butter powder mixed with water to make a thin dip like consistency to dip my apple in.

The really cool thing about doing this, is how GOOD the few food items taste when eating so little.

The challenge part is, it does get a bit wearing near the end of the day, but the GREAT part is I can tell myself, just a few more hours, then I dont have to think about dieting, and counting, and measureing and weighing, for a few days, until the next fast day.

OK, have a great day, and Nell , check in, how you are doing! GOOD LUCK!



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I would never do this diet. During my religious phase a few years back we used to fast for "spiritual" reasons.

I found fasting extremely difficult physically, but what it taught me mentally was very valuable.

It's unlikely restricted calories will do anything to fight cancer as mentioned in original post.

However, there IS scientific evidence that highlights how certain communities where calorie restriction has been followed by residents for centuries has resulted in longer, more healthy lives...there is an island off the coast of Japan, for example, where the average age is significantly higher than most Western countries and the people still enjoy healthy, active lives well into their 90's...not as the exception, but as the norm...!

Researchers believe that calorie restriction is one of the main reasons why these people are so healthy..





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Diane...My fast days will be Monday and Thursday. I wish you success and health. Hoping my hubby will join me soon. We did the 500 calorie/w spray diet so I know how to eat only 500 calories. This should be healthier I believe. Have a great week....it's a great week to have!
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Well...today will be my 1st day. Thought I'd better eat something since I was hungry and did not eat much Sunday. Planning on eggs, salad and steak my 1st day today. Water, water, water. I'll ck. in tomorrow. thx
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Exotec, 5:2 The Fast Diet, is a very successful book from a widely acclaimed BBC documentary.It was explored and written by a UK doctor.

You can learn more and see it here, also the book is on Amazon



www.documentarytube.com/eat-fast-and-live-
longer-bbc-horizon-2012


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I haven't heard of this diet, so I can't offer any intelligent commentary on it. I have done some intermittent fasting, but that means different things to different people. For some, it just means skipping a meal. For others, I think they carry it a couple days (I may be wrong about that). For me, it means I eat my usual breakfast, and then generally have nothing else but water the rest of the day. Sometimes I'll break it with a very small snack late in the day, but usually not. And I only keep that up for a day. It does help me when I start getting cravings. I'm not sure if it helps my aim toward weight loss or not... but it does keep me from snacking afterwards for a while.

As for any diet you hear of - all I can say is research it in every source you can find. Work out *why* it works, rather than just testimonials. I wouldn't recommend trying anything too far out of the mainstream without running it by your healthcare team.

As Russell said, the nice thing about diets like this is it makes us low-carbers seem pretty normal! LOL

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I started this on 7/11 and today is my 5th fast day. So far I'm really liking it. Very different diet type mentality, to only really have to stay focused 1 day, then just eat normal the other days.

My fast days are Sunday's and Thursday's.

I have alot to lose, so hoping this can really be a viable lifestyle



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Nell; 2nd day, yesterday, was harder to get thru this time, but today I'm not a bit hungry . . . after dinner, and still under 500. I need to keep the pound off, so I plan to eat only when hungry. I discovered rotisserie chicken & salad are a good fast day meal.

Let the good times increase as the weight shrinks.


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Forestpal....sounds like you're on a good beginning. Keep it up. I'm planning to start Monday.
Nell



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Well, I'm starting this plan on Monday. I read the book: 'The Fast Diet" ...it's the only plan my Dr. recommends for a diet. I don't like the word diet...I use 'food plan'...anyway I sure hope we can encourage each other on this plan. I think it's a good choice and hope I do well on it. Sounds like it's more than a lose weight plan but fasting can help your brain and other things going on in your body. Let's do it and see if we can pass on encouragements to each other.
Thanks for listening. Nellie in Green Bay (GO-PACK-GO)



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No starvation fad has never allowed me to keep my weight off long term. So I don't engage in any of them anymore.



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okay you lot have a couple of weeks up but I will start to-morrow have to do a bit of reading on how this is to work



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Tomorrow is start of second week 2 fast days. This has been the strangest week. I suppose unconsciously I didn't want to gain back the 3 pounds, but my appetite has been way down. This afternoon I'm 200 cal. If this holds thru the rest of the day, I'll count it as a fast day. Don't know if that is kosher, but will either follow with the 2nd fast, or put a regular day in between.

Let the good times increase as the weight shrinks.


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Here's my question. I need to lose 100 pounds as well. Has anyone ever done this with 5:2, and is it possible? I am low carbing now, and am thinking of switching to 5:2, and on regular days keep my calories under control. Does anyone have experience with 5:2 and needing to lose lots of weight?

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