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RUSSELL_39
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1/8/13 8:22 P

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You can have fresh, or frozen vegetables, and find it hard to eat too much. Canned however can carry a lot of calories. My brother eats corn and peas, and a 14.5 oz can is 280 for corn, and 210 for peas. Meanwhile I get 70 for green beans, and 87.5 for tomatoes. It works out to about 1.75 cups. So if you ate a can of peas, and a can of corn you would have 3.5 cups of veggies for 490 calories. 2 large potatoes is 560 calories. Together that is 1050 calories. Since a bunch of women on here eat 1200 calories, that would not leave much left.

Check the labels, and you may be surprised at how many calories some veggies are. You still are going to have to eat a lot of veggies to overeat. I eat 9-11 servings a day, along with over a lb of meat, butter, and 5 eggs, and I struggle to get 1600 calories, some days I have to add oil to get there. It is possible , but improbable. Eat lots of veggies. Fruit less often, but both have lots of good nutrition.

Even so, you need to stay in range no matter what you eat. A calorie is a calorie, and your metabolism isn't going to make it so you can eat 200 extra calories. Muscle is the fastest way to raise your metabolism, and it is not something that happens quick enough for you to even think about it. Eat lots of fruit/veggies, stay in range, and exercise as much as you can, and weight drops. It is simple.

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1/8/13 7:58 P

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Anyone can overeat on fruits and veggies. If you take in more calories than you put out, you'll gain weight.



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1/8/13 1:40 P

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Calorie wise, you can over-eat on anything. As far as nutrition, the Canadian Cancer Society recommends 5-9 servings of fruit and vegetables each day. Servings are not that big, often only 1/2 cup, so it's pretty easy to eat as much as you need. Lots of fruits and vegetables are high fibre, so I suppose you could upset your digestive system if you suddenly started eating a lot of extra fruit and vegetables.

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Thank you all for taking the time to answer my question! emoticon



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1/8/13 12:13 P

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Where is that cited?

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That said Bill, if the body receives the correct nutrients, energy levels and metabolism are likely to be greater, allowing for greater weight loss.

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BREWMASTERBILL
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1/8/13 10:48 A

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Let me attempt to clarify. Calorie is a unit of measurement. So saying a calorie isn't a calorie is like saying "a mile isn't a mile". How you FEEL consuming certain calories does not negate the laws of theromdynamics.

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1/8/13 10:30 A

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No one was interchanging nutrients with calories or saying that caloric intake was not key to losing weight.

The point is that if you eat 300 calories of veggies you are less likely to be hungry and eat additional calories, than if you eat 300 calories of junk food. Therefore you are more likely to create a caloric deficit if you opt for the veggies versus the junk food, since you are already full. This is because you have received nutrients and have eaten a higher volume of food.



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BREWMASTERBILL
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1/8/13 9:56 A

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It is a mistake to use calories and nutrients interchangeably.

And you're incorrect. 300 calories is 300 calories regardless of source. Malnutrition aside, if you're eating at a caloric deficit you will lose weight.

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1/8/13 9:49 A

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I wanna say that you can overeat on fruits and vegetables, but my cousin was on the 80/10/10 raw vegan diet (which I don't recommend)...she ate 3,000 calories a day consisting of nothing but raw fruits and vegetables. She ran about 3 miles 4 days a week, so not too much exercise, and she was FIT. Her body fat percentage got down to around 18% by eating this way. Of course once she stopped the diet, she gained some weight back. Anyway, if you overeat on fruits and veggies, it's much better than overeating on cookies and chips.

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1/8/13 9:43 A

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I think she was referring to the difference between nutrient rich calories, which quench your hunger and feed your body, to so-called 'empty' calories, which basically do nothing but make you fat. While eating 300 calories of veggies may register the same caloric intake that a 300 twinkie would, you are far less likely to eat more after the veggies than after the twinkie.

I overate veggies last night. I made this receipe called 'turkey stir fry' in a real foods book by Dr. Joshua Axe. The entire receipe called for about 12 cups of vegetables (carrots, onions, broccoli, snap peas, zucchini, tomato, broccoli, bell peppers) vs. 1 lb. of ground turkey. Therefore my entire plate was filled with mostly veggies. I added a slice of sprouted grain toast and 1 oz. of cheese to this feast. The entire meal was about 400 calories, and I couldn't finish it. I tried, because I didn't want to go under my calorie count for the day, but I ended up feeling quite ill. That is overeating veggies, IMHO.



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1/8/13 9:38 A

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Technically it is possible. You can gain weight from eating fruits and veggies. However, it would be difficult for anyone leading a normal life to gain weight this way. Whoever said 'calories are calories' is correct. If you find that you are eating a LOT of fruits and veggies, then try to eat more veggies than fruit.



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BREWMASTERBILL
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A calorie isn't a calorie? What is it then? Please expound. Links to science appreciated.

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DIDS70
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1/8/13 9:25 A

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Though I certainly don't believe a calorie is a calorie, I still think you can overeat fruit. I have tons of greens in my diet which is where i get most of my nutrients. Your body knows how to digest fruits and veggies, it can't digest processed food as easily.

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Yes. You can over eat anything. A calorie is a calorie, so, if you go over your calorie limit so that you are no longer creating a deficit, but creating a surplus, then you are overeating, regardless if it's Twinkies or apples.

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BREWMASTERBILL
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Sure! It might be very difficult since fruit and vegetables are calorically sparse. Imagine trying to eat 3,000 calories of broccoli. 1 cup of broccoli is approximately 30 calories. So you'd have to eat about 100 cups. I don't think you could :)

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KTANIA1981
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This may be a stupid question. but here it goes...
Can you ove eat fruit and veggies?



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