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You guys are making this diet way too difficult! It's easy and it works!

The first thing you're doing is your thinking of this as an uncomfortable temporary lifestyle change that you have to endure until you reach your goal weight! It is not! It is a permanent change in your life style and your eating habits with many wonderful benefits. Here are a few of them...

1) Almost all food cravings and hunger will disappear and they will do so very quickly. This makes sticking to the diet super easy and very, very comfortable.

2) The one thing that is the most difficult thing for any dieter to be able to control long term is portion size! With this simple, easy trick, you can throw portion size out the window forever. For the first time in your life you'll be free to eat until you're comfortably full, until you are complete, honestly satisfied! This is the ultimate hurdle, and it's gone!

3) It's extremely flexible! You can go out to dinner with friends and eat basically anything you want without worrying about measuring portion size and sticking only to dry tiny salads!

There is only one thing that I feel is full of baloney about the advertising of this diet. That is that you can just stuff yourself full of jelly beans, donuts and french fries and tell their coming out of your ears and still lose weight. That is the biggest bunch of malarkey I ever heard in my life! You've got to eat healthy, you've got to make good choices, but you should be doing this anyway!

So just eat healthy, your sugar and unhealthy snack cravings will go away completely and go and enjoy life! But consider this a lifelong habit that is so easy to maintain! You will absolutely love it.

This is what to expect. During the first week you will tend to over eat because you are scared to death of being hungry during the 16 hours you are fasting. However you will soon realize that by just eating normal portions and making healthy choices that your hunger almost totally disappears! After the first week I started going well into my 8 hour window without eating at all. Often eating only for 4 or 5 hours a day, purely because I had no hunger.

If you incorporate this as part of your normal dietary lifestyle, for the rest of your life, you will eventually see yourself melt down your goal weight! And there you will automatically hover for the rest of your life!

It's comfortable, it's easy and it's very flexible!

Go out there and enjoy yourselves and quit being so skeptical!


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I just read some of the information posted. I would love to hear from someone who says this diet works, you are not constantly hungry, and you have the energy and strength to exercise and do other work. The reason I ask for this is because I have never heard of the 8 hour diet. I am uncontrolled diabetes II and can't eat this way unless I am assured certain things will not happen. For instance, how many carbs are in the shakes?

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Well... Today I am starting the 8 hour diet. I have been doing well with protein shakes but will now adjust my eating times and see if it gives my weight loss a boost.

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7/14/14 12:55 P

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Thank You so much for posting. Congrats on your weight loss. I am going to try this diet also. I hope my results are as good as yours. Do you drink water during the 16 hours?

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Many years ago I learned that I had a hiatal hernia and was unable to eat within 3-4 hours of bedtime, so I quit my nighttime eating. Before retiring, I would never have gone to work without having something to eat beforehand, so this would not have worked for me even without the nighttime eating. Now that I'm retired, I sleep later in the morning, and am usually up for a couple hours before I get hungry. We also eat dinner earlier, since we don't have to wait for anyone to get home from work. So this is pretty much the way I eat normally. I lose a pound every once in a while, but the weight is not falling off. I think I just eat the same amount of food, but just in a shorter time frame. I think telling people they can eat whatever they want doesn't work. Some people would take that to mean that they could eat huge meals and snacks of fatty unhealthy foods. Common sense should tell you that that is not going to result in weight loss. Also, many people would tend to stuff themselves toward the end of their eating window because they know the long fast is about to start. If you can comfortably make this a normal WOE it might work for you. Even if you extend the eating window to 9 or 10 hours. I do think having a longer fasting period overnight is good for your body, but each person would have to decide how long that fasting period can be without causing harm to their body.

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I just want to let everyone know that it is working great for me. I have tried everything. 3 yrs ago I worked so hard to look good at my daughter's wedding but could never get passed 168. After, I gradually gained 10# over 3 yrs. Started Advocare...lost 6...then...on a road trip I read an article about the 8Hr Diet. It changed my life!!! On May 30...172...June 18...161!!! I do watch my diet thru SparkPeople nutrition...try to stay around 1000 calories during the week, but I do cheat on the weekends and even have a drink or two. I also have continued Advocare MMS3, Spark, Catalyst and Thermoplex. My window is 11-7pm, but I have found when I eat...I am full after a few bits. I do eat 2 cups of Watermelon, too. I am so excited and I can't wait to see the 150's!!! Good luck...



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Here's an update. I did not lose any weight the first week however I did find I was better able to control what I was eating and was forced to drink more water. This week I added more exercise and and doing better portion control and better food choices. So while maybe just changing the hours I am eating is not in and of itself making a difference it is helping me to better control me. So pluses for me all around....

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6/2/14 12:26 P

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Humans are pretty adaptable. Doesn't hurt to experiment with eating patterns to see what works best for you.

But if you're feeling light headed, dizzy etc when a meal is delayed - one possibility to consider is a hidden food allergy. We can be allergic to food we enjoy, and sometimes the body tries to adapt if we eat it all the time and then hits us with withdrawal symptoms if it doesn't get its allergenic fix. Basically "allergic addiction". This happened to me twice. First time was onions (!)- my mother was allergic so we didn't have them at home, and I went wild when on my own. Had onions for every meal but lunch at work, got a weird stomach discomfort by 3pm (ulcer was ruled out by doctor) that was oddly relieved by an onion sandwich at home... Staying away from onions for a while cured it. Years later, I discovered the same thing happening with dairy. Once I cut out dairy, within two weeks I no longer felt weak and tired and headachey and dizzy when a meal was delayed. Just hungry.

The reason it's easy to miss such allergies is that symptoms can be delayed and also masked by the allergic addiction phenomenon. In my case, I got tested because my fatigue problem was getting so bad over the years - I tried adding eggs and cottage cheese for extra protein (two major allergens for me!) and it got even worse. I would delay eating in order to get any work done, since I noticed I would get so tired after a meal (major clue that I missed). So I inadvertently outran my body's ability to cope with the allergenic dairy in particular by adding more of it to my diet over the years and my "extra protein" attempt broke it by also adding eggs (I could be arrested for driving under the influence of an egg salad sandwich, huge fatigue sets in within an hour).

Anyway, think about any food that you eat at every meal or close to it when trying to rule out a hidden allergy. It really isn't normal to become less functional when you're hungry. Otherwise the species wouldn't have lasted long. Other mammals often go without food for long periods in the wild. My cats just get more active when I let their food dish go empty for a while.


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This whole concept makes me shake my head - and I will tell you why:

For the last 20+ years (overweight and all) I have eaten every day from 12-6:30 pm (some odd days 11-7 pm). This created a fasting period of (on average) 16+ hours.

If this worked, why was I overweight?



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I just started this diet and my goal is to try it for a month and if I see significant change (any weight loss) I will continue using this method. I plan to do this every day not just a few days a week as I need consistency to build the habit and I haven't started working out yet that comes next week with my daughter. I want to see what it would be if I did not do anything except eat during my time frame that I set for myself and then make changes to exercise and food as time goes on. One change a week is my goal. So far I really like the concept of this diet. I work 1000-1830 so I set my time from 1300-2100 so that I am not eating until my first break (I don't like eating in the morning anyway) and that gives me time to get home at night, take care of my kids, and it be ok for me to eat while they are eating. So far the biggest benefit to me has been that it is forcing me to drink more water. I like tea and coffee but I have to be craving them to drink them and my water intake was so low it was not benefiting me in any way. So far I have been able to push through my hunger pains by drinking water and have had less temptation to raid the fridge in the middle of the night. I have almost made it through the first week and will be weighing myself Sun to see if there have been any changes. Really glad to see I am not the only one trying this plan and that there has been success with it. Looking forward to checking next week to let you all know my results. emoticon

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As far as the 8 Hour Diet book goes, he says you can lose weight doing it 2 or 3 days a week. He also says you can eat what you want and all you want of it. My evidence is anecdotal, but I did find it to be true that you could eat what you want all you want and lose weight. I do find it very effective doing the 16:8 and eating sensibly. I rotate between a fairly strict low carb for a few weeks, I lose my weight here, and a balanced eating plan. I do it everyday, with an occasional morning eating. I also do two days of 500 calories. It took me a while to get used to it. I really had to learn to deal with some hunger and realize that it was ok. If I got a little light headed, I learned I could take a a couple of deep breaths and it passed. I also begin to look forward to feeling hungry. It just cements in my mind all of the amazing things that my body is doing during this time.

Losing weight also became secondary to me. If you listen to that Dr. Mattson Ted talk, there is just one wonderful benefit after another that occurs when you have burned up all the stored energy in your liver and start burning your fat. You are a fat burning machine and you are cleaning your body of all of its garbage from the day before. That is what I feel when I delay eating in the morning. Yes, hunger but also an incredible sense of personal empowerment. It might take a little while to get used to, but just don't give up and you will get there.

As far as the eight super foods, I think you might be talking about the 8 categories of food that he created and recommends eating at least one thing from each group. It is a good read but it is a good portion of the book. I would guess that it is at the library by now, but it is too long and involved to put on here. Good luck to you and never give up on this. At the end of his Ted talk, Dr. Mattson certainly alludes to a belief that this could create an unbelievably healthy society.

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I have read a lot about this WOL. I don't have the book, but have done research online. I have toyed with the idea of 16:8 and 5:2 for about 2 months now. I have tried the 5:2 about 4 times now and on those 4 fasting days I can not get lower than 800 calories! I starve on those days with just 800 calories, I can't even imagine only having 500 calories. So I've decided that WOL is not for me. I've tried the 16:8 and found it easy the first few goes. I have been at this 16:8 diet for 9 days now and have done 16:8 for 6 of those days. I forgot to weigh myself 9 days ago when I started. I weighed myself today, and will weigh again 1 week to see if I've lost anything.

I do have a few questions if anyone can answer them that would be great.
1. Are you supposed to eat 16:8 everyday of the week?
2. Is it important to count calories durring the 8 hours of eating? I currently don't.
3. What are the 8 speed/super foods I keep reading about?

Just a quick note, I'm a coffee drinker. Have to have my 2 cups everyday! And let me tell you my coffee HAS to have flavoured creamer (6 tablespoons to be exact). So I really thought this WOL was gonna be hard! But I have switched over to hot tea with 1 splenda packet and I am really surprised how it has replaced my morning coffee! Not to mention I am saving 250 calories everyday when I don't have my coffee!

Thanks all for your help and advice :)

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I'm excited, I've read up on the 8 hour diet and I will be starting it today. I'm anxious to get into shape for summertime. I'll keep updating with results. I've read you can drink coffee, tea, or water during your fasting time. Hopefully that will help with the hunger. :-)



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i myself usually don't feel like eating until noon about so in a way that might work for me but im limited by what i can have as well

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I apologize for my sarcasm MissRuth and that it seems to have upset you. You and I just get upset over different things. I have a real problem with people who make statements parroting myths or at best ideas which have not been proven as facts. As far as trying to impress anyone, I don't think I attribute one idea written there to myself. One of the biggest points I was trying to make was that this is one of the preeminent scientist in the world. What's more is that he is not in some lab trying to find a pill to sell to obese people to help them lose weight. As he states himself, he has no horse in the race. He works for the National Institute of Health. He is only trying to educate you to the unbelievable science that they have been carrying out.

As far as no answer being the right one for everybody, to a small degree I will agree. What foods we do best with is probably affected by where our ancestry comes from. If your heritage is Inupiat, you will probably not do well on the Mediterranean Diet, and vice versa. That said, the science of intermittent fasting and the theories for why it is so should apply to almost everyone. We are animals and we have more commonality than differences. For thousands of years we hunted and foraged during the day and ate later in the day after success. “A lot of people like to fast because they’re alert and motivated,” says Dr. Evans, himself an alert, motivated, intermittent faster. “That’s because we’re predators. When you fast, you’re more attentive. Your senses of smell and sight are enhanced. Everything is heightened; your breathing, your vision, your coordination. In attack mode, animals need to be physically running so they can do the job. We do that, too. We’re good at that.” Come on, that's awesome. Hunting mode is good. I see myself stealthily stalking my prey, my sight and sense of smell at their peak, my breathing slow and controlled, when suddenly I leap and stirke - flinging open the door to the 7-11 and slaughtering a herd of taquitos! Ok, it ain't what it used to be, lol.

This is from www.experiencelife.com:
Many intermittent fasters report experiencing something not often associated with calorie restriction: relief. Those who have struggled with trying to eat five to six meals a day (or to count calories) report feeling eased of those burdens. Intermittent fasters also say they have more patience around food, and a stronger preference for eating high-quality fare on nonfasting days.

“Eating six meals a day can train you to get hungry more often,” says strength coach John Romaniello, founder of Final Phase Fat Loss. “Once you start practicing some sort of fasting, you usually eat less on nonfasting days, too.”

Fitness enthusiasts have discovered that fasting makes exercising for fat loss more efficient, and, in turn, exercising makes fasting easier. “Athletes performing long endurance activities while fasting actually burn more body fat than athletes who are fed (because the fed athletes are burning through food energy before they get to the stored energy in their body fat),” writes fitness guru Brad Pilon, MS, in his e-book, Eat Stop Eat (Strength Works, 2012). “The very act of burning fat also releases something called ‘glycerol’ from your body-fat stores. When the fatty acids are released, so is the glycerol. Glycerol is a valuable precursor for gluconeogenesis [a metabolic pathway] in the liver that helps keep blood glucose stable.” (Maybe Glycerol is what is missing for us low blood sugar types, I was type 2 diabetic)

If you tend to get hungry before working out, Pilon notes that the sensation might be more psychological than physical. “Most likely, what we call hunger is really a learned reaction to a combination of metabolic, social and environmental cues to eat,” he says. “Consider that most people get noticeably hungry or irritated if they have gone more than two to three hours without eating. But during this time, metabolically speaking, they are still in the fed state.”

While the case for fasting as a general-health tool is compelling, the case for fasting as a longevity booster may be even more compelling. Studies have shown that severely restricting calorie intake can increase the lifespan of rats and mice. (Data published this year in the journal Science Translational Medicine showed that mice with cancer improved their survival rates when they fasted during chemotherapy.)

The National Institute on Aging announced earlier this year that fasting for one or two days a week may also help stave off Alzheimer’s, Parkinson’s and other degenerative brain conditions. When fasting, the researchers said, brain cells are mildly stressed, benefiting the brain in a similar way to how the mild stress of exercise benefits muscles.

The science for intermittent fasting is much more compelling than anything out there for eating breakfast and 5 or 6 small meals a day and yet, people have no problem parroting the rot that they have been preaching the whole time that America has gotten fatter and fatter.

While there are people who will not be able to participate in these really fascinating findings (heck, there are people who can't be in the sunlight and have to live at night) those people are few and far between. I would be asking my doctor if there was anything I could do that would allow me to adopt this lifestyle. 50% of the people over 85 have Alzheimer's, and no it is not a part of normal aging! They just raised the estimated number of deaths from Alzheimer's from around 60,000 to 500,000!

If you could take the benefits that intermittent fasting bestows on people and were able to put it in a pill form, you would own the world. Well, it's not a pill but that makes the results even that more unbelievable. It's just nature. I would love to lose a little more weight, but it is Alzheimer's and Parkinsons and autoimmune diseases that keep me up. I probably did too much damage in my ill spent youth(but some great memories!), but I am going to go down swinging. This is from anti-aging research. This is research that might very well revolutionize the world. Between this and the information that they are obtaining from gastric bypass surgeries such as the Roux En Y, it is the most thrilling time I have ever seen in the nutrition world.

I just pray that my parents, both of whom have started intermittent dieting do not get Alzheimer's or some other form of dementia. Both my grandmothers fell victim to it. I truly believe they would not have had to suffer that hell they lived through if we had had this information. Neither one was overweight by the way.

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Thanks for sharing your personal successes with this diet. I'm glad it's working for you.

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All I know for absolutely sure is that if I only ate once a day, like the doctor mentioned in the pp... I'd pass out from low blood sugar & low blood pressure. Guaranteed, the first time I tried to stand up, I'd be out cold because there wouldn't be enough bp to pump the blood to my brain. I think the thing is... there is no one, perfect, absolute answer for everybody. For people who want to try it-- sure, go ahead. I'll pass. And sarcasm is never attractive when trying to make a point. It totally alienates the people you're trying to "impress".

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I just thought I would throw this out there for the "This is a fad crowd." Here is a Ted talk by Dr. Mark Mattson, Chief of the Laboratory of Neurosciences at the National Institute on Aging. You can also read his bio on wikipedia. Now I know this guy doesn't stack up to the nutritionists on here or your own personal doctor or just your "gut feel", but you might just want to listen to what he has to say. Losing weight is just an incidental feature of intermittent fasting. It also has major implications for minor things like Alzheimer's, diabetes, heart disease, Parkinson and other trivial issues. I know looking good is the most important thing out there, but you might just want to consider the effect that intermittent fasting has on these pesky little health issues. By the way, Dr. Mattson I am guessing is also a very busy guy who just also happens to be a cross country runner. He eats one meal a day. His metabolism does not go into hibernation, it increases. His mind doesn't turn into mush, it gets sharper. But I am sure you are busier than this guy and your schedule doesn't allow you to fit it in. Too bad, because if you listen to this, you might just be sad at all the things you are missing out on.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UkZAwKoCP8

But don't let all that scientific research get in the way of what you "know."

By the way, here is what Dr. Mattson said about breakfast: “There are a lot of forces in our society pushing against” skipping breakfast, says Mark Mattson, PhD, chief of the Laboratory of Neurosciences at the National Institute on Aging. “Those forces are driven by money. They include the food industry obviously, and in some respects the pharmaceutical industry.” Breakfast cereals alone are an $11 billion a year industry, and that’s before you get into eggs and bacon, bagels and lox, pancakes and syrup. There are a lot of different businesses relying on your morning meal to make their budgets.” You might also like to go and research what they say eating 5 or 6 small meals a day does for the insulin in your body and its ability to burn fat.
As far as "needing" to eat before working out, he likes to point out that we would be extinct if man had to lie down when he got hungry. Man actually had to go out and hunt wild animals or forage for food when he got hungry. They weren't lying down. Nobody was delivering them a pizza and their refrigerators were empty. Being hungry is a good thing. It just takes a little bit of getting used to. After a couple of weeks, most people enjoy the feel. I love it. I know I am burning fat and I know in many ways my body is actually in peak performance.

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Hi Everyone! Just became a member and love reading about everyone's successes! I wanted to throw my 2 cents into The 8 Hour Diet discussion. I heard about this diet about a year ago after seeing it mentioned in both Women's Health and Men's Health magazines. I decided to try it using just the info I'd gleaned from book reviews and blogs. I didn't even have the book to follow since it was on backorder.

Using what info I could scrape together, I'd dropped about 10 lbs within a couple of months. I have never and currently don't own a scale. I could tell I'd lost a noticeable amount of weight because I was able to drop two pant sizes, from a 12 to 10/8 and more than one year later, I've kept off the weight.

I decided in 2014 I'd really try to get to my goal weight so of all the diets I've ever tried, I returned to The 8 Hour Diet and started again during the last week of December 2013. It's now mid-March 2014 and my results are somewhat different this time...oh, and I finally have the book to follow!

Looking back at old pics of me as a 9/10 yr old child, I've always had a couple of rolls of fat in my abdominal area and under my breasts. Even when I was 22 yrs old and a size 4, I still had these rolls; I call them Roll 1 and Roll 2. I've never felt comfortable being in a sitting position for fear my rolls will spill over my waistband. They're not little "folds of skin" either. I'm able to grab a handful of fat!

Being on The 8 Hour Diet for about 3 months now, I can't say that I've noticed much overall weight loss like last time but Roll 1 and Roll 2 are significantly reduced. To the point where when I'm sitting down, I can no longer see them protruding from underneath my breasts! I've also noticed that when I'm running on the treadmill or even rolling over in bed, I can no longer feel my torso jiggling; sounds weird but true.

I'm still the same size pants/tops and it doesn't appear like I've lost fat anywhere else on my body. I follow the diet 5 times a week and give myself the weekends off. It's pretty effortless to follow and I find myself automatically doing it even on the weekends. I wonder if Roll 1 and Roll 2 are hereditary as my mom and female cousins all seem to have them too? Anyways, The 8 Hour Diet is working slowly but surely for me.

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I do something similar to this and have for quite some time. I sort of intuitively fell into it, without knowing I was doing a "diet". I think it all boils down to how an individual feels and what fits your lifestyle the best. Many people have success with smaller meals 5-6 times per day and some do not. There simply is no "one size fits all" approach. You just have to find what works best for you.

I actually eat in about a 9 hour window each day, usually 3-4 meals depending on my hunger levels. I've been maintaining my weight for about two years now and am not actively trying to drop any more bodyfat. I eat my first meal at 9:30 am and my last meal is at 6:30 pm. I eat whole, healthy foods including lean proteins, fruit, vegs, good fats and dairy. Occasionally I eat some grains, but I'm not a big fan of any of them, so they're a small part of my intake. I used this manner of eating to drop the last 10 pounds I had to lose and it made me feel so good, I just kept doing it in maintenance.

Five or six smaller meals left me feeling a constant state of unsatisfied hunger. I would watch the clock trying to hold out for the 2-3 hours to be over so I could eat. When I spread the same number of calories over 3 to 4 meals, the hunger went away. I didn't change the foods I ate, or my macronutrient ratios, I just ate more at each meal. My metabolism has never slowed. My nutritionist tested my RMR at over 1900. I am a 44 year old female.

People will have their opinions about what you "should" do. They will tell you that your metabolism is a furnace that needs to be stoked all the time. They'll tell you if you don't eat breakfast within one hour of rising you'll slow your metabolism and be hungrier and more prone to overeating later in the day. It is important to listen to your body and do what keeps you comfortable while you are in a caloric deficit. There's no harm in trying it as long as you eat healthy foods you enjoy and the proper amount of calories.

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I did the Slimming world diet and lost quite alot, but the problem is that they have support groups which were very helpful. Since I move around alot, I dropped the regime.
Now I am very interested about 8 hour diet, and would love to hear people's experiences
Anybody?



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I don't really know a lot about this diet. Does it work? Where can I find out more about it?



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I would love to know how this is going.

With love and caring from Nancy ... wishing all of you a wonderful, blessed, and precious day.



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Hi,

I know this thread was a while back but I've been doing some research into this and was wondering how you all are getting along? Lots of people seemed very positive about it.

Also, I do my cardio in the evening, and my 8 hour window will be from around 9-5 or 10-6 (undecided!) so I won't be doing my cardio fasted. However, I will be weight training unfasted, in the morning. What are people's experiences with fasting and exercise? Is it going to be detrimental to train on a full stomach (I've heard you burn more fat stores training on an empty stomach)?

Thanks in advance!

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Hi Folsomgal. There is a Spark team, "The 8-Hour Diet" Followers. It's a small group of us, and the board has been kind of quiet lately, but you're welcome to join.

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I been on the 8 hour diet since January. It's been the best diet plan ever as its so easy to do. I
follow it 4 days a week, I cut out alcohol and sweets completely during those days and don't crave them at all. I'm a total foodie and I love wine, so I save the wine for Fri-Sun . I do have dessert on the weekend, but my craving for sugar has gone down so much that I just have small portion of that. With the 8 hour diet, I have found myself consuming less food, even on the days that I don't follow it. I've dropped 25 pounds so far from 168 to 143 since January, at first averaging 1/5 to 2 pounds a week for first couple of months. I love this diet, it's now my lifestyle, extremely doable and I love the way I look in my clothes now. I also work out 5 days a week, about an hour, so it is important to combine exercise as part of the weight loss program. My brother in law was so impress by my results, that he is now on it and doing extremely well. You will find that your food consumption goes down and your cravings go away.

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NEWJULIE5--You might try searching for an 8 Hour Diet Team for support. You probably won't get much on the general message boards. Just an FYI.

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This doesn't seem healthy or reasonable. In addition you intend to make it MORE restrictive. I wish you luck but fear this type of regime is most often not a long term success. Please think about reconsidering and finding a healthy reasonable, and realistic plan that is something you can LIVE with for your life and not a D I E T.

With love and caring from Nancy ... wishing all of you a wonderful, blessed, and precious day.



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I do not trust diets like this. I would rather have three meals and 2 snacks. Fads do not last. this is a life style change.

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I've just started the 8 hour diet today and wanted to document my results to motivate myself, and others hopefully! I've always struggled to eat breakfast in the morning so feel this will work to my advantage. I'm going to have my eating window set between 11-7 like many have advised here, but will change it up for eating out on occasion.
I've bought the book and decided against only using this diet for 3 days a week. I feel that won't be enough for me to lose weight week to week. I have a tendency to binge and would only scupper my chances at success on "days off". Tea and coffee should keep me going for the fasting period. The exercise part should be easy too. I walk my dogs every morning before I go to work. Its an hour trek up a large hill with a very steep incline, which always gets my heart pumping! I'm really looking forward to getting stuck in and hopefully losing the twenty pounds I haven't been able to successfully shift and keep off in the last ten years....anyone who's been on this diet for a while and has any useful tips for me would be greatly appreciated!!, emoticon



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Once again, people fail to understand what is scientific research. Here is an article in the New York Times that states most of what we take as facts on eating are in truth just assumptions or hunches: http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/01/30/myths-of-weight-loss-are-plentiful-researcher-says/ . Without trying to be insulting, this is not a scientific study: "Eating early in the day keeps us from "starvation eating" later on, and it also jump-starts your metabolism, says Elisabetta Politi, RD, MPH, nutrition manager for the Duke Diet & Fitness Center at Duke University Medical School. "When you don't eat breakfast, you're actually fasting for 15 to 20 hours, so you're not producing the enzymes needed to metabolize fat to lose weight." - From www.webmd.com .

In fact, with the early results from the intermittent fasting studies, it is looking like eating breakfast probably doesn't jump start your metabolism, but actually keeps you from some of your best fat burning time and important time for your body to cleanse itself from the prior days eating. And this is not a scientific study: The successful 'losers' who are part of the National Weight Control Registry all eat breakfast in the morning, at least 5 mornings a week. (the NWCR is made up of people who have lost 30 or more pounds and kept it off for 1 year or more). At least two articles in the Journal of The American Dietitic Association also back this up. I was going to post links but they don't work if you aren't a member :( .

These are what Dr. Allison calls association studies. They are helpful in pointing to areas that might be worthy of study, but should not be used for recommendations until a causal relationship has been established through well designed scientific tests.

What is absolutely not in question, is that there is no scientific study backing up Elisabetta Politi's claim and she fails to site one. The NY Times article is a great read as is the report it is reviewing found here in The New England Journal of Medicine: http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMsa1208051 but you have to pay for it.

From the NY Times article: “In my view,” said Dr. Jeffrey M. Friedman, a Rockefeller University obesity researcher, “there is more misinformation pretending to be fact in this field than in any other I can think of.”
Others agreed, saying it was about time someone tried to set the record straight.
“I feel like cheering,” said Madelyn Fernstrom, founding director of the University of Pittsburgh Weight Management Center. When it comes to obesity beliefs, she said, “We are spinning out of control.”

I think it is very clear, that intermittent fasting could very well be proven the best and healthiest lifestyle choice.

I don't think The Journal of New England Medicine is going to print an article claiming there is no scientific proof that many of these so called "facts" are actually only assumptions or myths unless that is in fact the case. It's not as if it would be difficult to disprove if in fact there were scientific studies out there proving the claims. There is nothing that proves eating a breakfast is beneficial for weight loss. In fact, it has been shown that overweight people who eat breakfast eat more calories than those that don't. Great article in Time on this here: Eating a Big Breakfast Doesn’t Cut Daily Calories http://healthland.time.com/2011/01/18/eating-a-big-breakfast-doesnt-cut-daily-calories/#ixzz2O3JieSRm . There has been no causal relationship proven between eating breakfast and being thin. Also, there is zero science backing the claim that eating breakfast jumpstarts your metabolism - at least according to The Journal of New England Medicine.

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I also work 10-14 hour days. I have to eat a high protein breakfast, which isn't a big breakfast and I eat small meals through the day. If I can stop my night time eating after work, it would help. I'm going to try to do 12 hours/12 hours for week days. On weekends I tend to eat my breakfast later.
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I work 12 hr shifts and only have one 30 minute lunch break while working. I usually eat supper when I get off work. So I don't think the 8 hour diet would work for me. I have lost weight by following the SP guide lines and counting calories for the last 10 months. I also exercise on the days I don't work. I don't think fad diets really work. The key is eating less and exercising more. It is also counter productive to be too restrictive. I try to eat foods I like and enjoy.



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Sounds like one of you should start a Team for this diet!

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Donnalee,
I totally agree. I was relating my 2 1/2 pound loss to some of the much greater losses that some others have experienced. I'm satisfied with slow but steady. My past diet attempts sound very much like yours, the fact that I can maintain them for just so long by depriving myself and then fall off the wagon and start all over again. There is no deprivation with this way of eating. However, even though there are no "forbidden" foods, I am still eating healthy, low glycemic, but I don't feel guilty when I have my small ice cream cone after dinner. It's very freeing to know that I CAN have a treat and I won't blow it, to the point that I often think, huh, if I CAN have it, then I guess maybe I don't want it after all...or perhaps I'll decide that I do want it. Either way is okay, and that's fantastic! I'm glad to have you with me.



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Sharoneli,
I'm like you....the breakfast habit is hard to break. It is do-able but I sure do wake up hungry. I also watch the clock counting the hours until I can have breakfast! Anyway, it is definitely worth it to wait. It certainly doesn't kill me to delay breakfast a few hours.
On your 'Cons' list, you said you only lost 2 1/2 pounds in 2 weeks. But, that adds up to 5 lbs a month or 60 pounds a year. I don't know about you but I'd be thrilled if I had lost 60 pounds last year.....or even 40 or 50 for that matter! So, I think the thing is that if we have found a way to eat that we can be consistent and stick with it for the long term, then those pounds will eventually add up. I want to lose faster too but I've tried every other diet out there and can't stick to them over a long period of time. Eventually, I want some carbs or a piece of birthday cake or pizza and then it is blown. This plan gives so much freedom, just as long as you stay within the 8 hour window. So, I think you are doing great. I'm with you on this. Let's try to keep it going!



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Wow, MBAKER, 5 pounds is great! I agree....consistently losing a couple of pounds a week will get you to your goal. To get that kind of a loss, did you watch what you ate or really eat what you wanted for your meals?
I think I'm going to change my window to 11 - 7. I've been trying 10 - 6 but just can't always have dinner by 6. Then, when I do eat my dinner too early, I sometimes I get hungry later in the evening. That wasn't happening to me at first but I think in the beginning I was making sure I had very satisfying meals and now I'm trying to have more healthy-watching what I eat- kind of meals. That may be back-firing so I need to monitor that.
MICHELE- I sometimes have the small non-fat, sugar-free vanilla latte from McDonald's on the way in to work. It is 80 calories according to their nutrition charts and I don't drink all of it. So, I figure I'm getting 50 - 60 calories. It would probably be better if I didn't have it but the book says you can have coffee with small amounts of cream and sugar if you keep the calorie count low. He seems to understand that people like coffee in the morning and it can help you get through until that first meal and as long as the calorie count is low, it seems to be just fine.
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I have been on this diet for a week and i have lost 5 pounds. I really find i am liking it and it fits to my lifestyle great. I do my 8 hours from 11-7 and it works great for me. I usually get the kids up and off to school at 6 and have 1 cup of coffee with a little bit of creamer but then i either get my cleaning done in the morning or do my exercise and it keeps me busy till 11 and i dont think about food and i now i am going to get lunch soon. I know 5 pounds in the first week is not typical but i am happy as long as i lose 1-2 pounds a week. I want to lose 100 by the end of the year and if set my goal to 2 pounds a week that is 2x52 i will do it with this great start of already down 5. I do my weigh ins on monday so i will keep you informed as to my progression with the so far awesome diet.

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I haven't read the book yet, but I do know that coffee and tea are fine, so your iced coffee sounds okay. I would suspect that juice is not since it's pretty much pure sugar. I do have one 12-ounce can of Diet Rite soda (no caffeine, no salt, no sugar, and sweetened with Splenda rather than Aspartame) in the evening, I'm not sure if it's "legal" or not.



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Can you drink Fat free/Sugar free ice coffee or any juice during the fasting hours?


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I began the 8-hour diet about two weeks ago. I decided that my eating "window" would be about 12 noon to 8 pm. The first couple of days I was pretty hungry in the morning, mainly, I believe, because I was used to eating breakfast. I'm no longer hungry in the morning, but the breakfast habit isn't broken yet because I find myself thinking about it when the time rolls around. I just have a glass of water, though, and I'm fine.

I'm feeling terrific and sleeping incredibly well, unusual for me.

Here are my pros and cons so far:

Pros:
I feel good
Cravings are gone
Hunger is gone
Thinking about food all the time is gone
I have lots of energy and motivation to get things done
I work out in the mornings and take the dogs for a walk before breaking my fast at noon
I don't have headaches or muscle weakness, like the first few days/weeks of very low carb
No feelings of deprivation, which have led to diet crashes in the past
I'm eating well but no urge to overeat or to eat junk
This would be easy to maintain long-term
I'm losing weight
It's very flexible and not necessary to do 7 days a week, so occasional Saturday morning breakfasts with friends are fine

Cons:
Weight loss is slow. I've lost about 2 1/2 pounds in two weeks, but as long as I continue to lose, I'm encouraged, and I DO NEED TO BE ENCOURAGED.

I haven't read the book yet -- I'm on the wait list at the library -- but I've glanced at a copy in the store. I'll be interested to learn more about the scientific theory. I've been intrigued with the idea of intermittent fasting but knew I would never like or succeed at not eating for 24 hours. The 8-hour diet is very doable for me.

I'd be interested to hear about others' experiences.






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This diet sounds interesting. I can see both pros and cons. I don't think I would try it because I am a type 2 diabetic. The post about shaking and dizziness was a red flag for me. I want to keep my blood sugars under control and fear this approach might not work for me in that respect. Good luck to those who are trying it.



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Yeah I think the idea is to stop eating all. day. long. which is what most people do. I have just started working out again semi regularly about a month ago but I am also breastfeeding still which sucks up some of my calories but the biggest thing is more conscious eating I think.



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Bekers,
Thanks for sharing your thoughts....interesting! It is good to hear from people who have been doing it for awhile and it is working for them. I like your description of how eating in the morning "awakens the beast". That is so true! I'm hungry in the morning and I want to eat but if I just wait till 10 or 11 a.m., I am so much more in control the whole day. If I give in and have that first meal at 6:30 a.m., then I'm wanting to eat all day.
I noticed you said that you eat around noon and make sure to have your last meal by 10 p.m. so that is a 10 hour window. That is something I have been wondering about because there have been some days that I have to extend my window to 9 hours simply because I got home from work later than expected. I felt like that probably wouldn't hurt too much. If that is working for you, I guess that confirms it.
I'm not finding this to be real fast weight loss but it is slow and steady. Also, to be losing at all while eating foods I like, is great.
Thanks again for sharing your thoughts and what is working for you and your husband!



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Just another pro intermittent fasting person here. My husband (who is a very athletic weightlifting kinda guy) has been doing this for months now. That means he goes for most of his training sessions unfueled. While I'm not completely consistent with it (our toddler sometimes insists that I eat with her and she might be eating before I've wanted to start eating myself) I do aim for not eating before noon and not eating after 10pm (again sometimes I'm finishing my dinner between 9-10 due to getting the munchkin bathed to bed after her dinner). Both my husband and myself have be able to progress just fine in weight training at our vastly different athletic levels and I have continued to slowly lose lingering fat.

I completely disagree with the "starvation mode" and "starting your metabolism" points out there.
Your body will not go into a starvation mode by extending your already existent fast for another few hours. "Starvation mode" doesn't even really make sense here, either you're starving or you're not. Fat is stored for fuel when you're body needs it. If you need fuel and your glycogen is all used up it will use your fat. You're body will only think it's starving if you actually starve it (i.e. calories obscenely low or nonexistent for several days) otherwise you will just feel hungry as your body is asking you to seek out food. Hunger doesn't automatically equal starving.
And as for "starting your metabolism," I find this to be a bit off too. Your metabolism doesn't shut off. It's high or it's low but it's not off and on. When you eat breakfast (or whenever you start eating after your sleeping fast) is when your feeding window begins. You've awoken the beast as I sometimes want to say. This will pretty much continue until you go to sleep.

The intermittent fast does take a little getting used to because you're setting up a new feeding schedule for yourself but if you eat the number of calories you're aiming to eat within that time you'll remain perfectly healthy and in my experience have a much easier time of sticking to your calorie allowance (much less snacking). Less snacking will also help improve your insulin sensitivity. Eating nearly constantly throughout your day can cause a bit of an insulin resistance and so after a couple hours your hypo and feeling like you need to eat. By carving out a chunk of time where you're body isn't producing insulin you are saving yourself the huge ups and downs of insulin spikes and crashes.
There are of course exceptions to this as with everything. People with insulin issues already (diabetics) need to eat healthy and work with their healthcare provider of course but a healthy human can absolutely eat this way and continue to improve their health.



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Considering the fact that I eat a piece of fruit before my workout at 6:00 a.m., I would be be forced to not eat after 2:00 in the afternoon. I don't think it would be a feasible option for those who actually eat breakfast before a regular work schedule, nor do I think it would be sustainable for any long period of time. Additionally, going 16 hours without eating seems like it would bring your metabolism to a grinding halt or force your body into starvation mode.

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Actually, multiple, peer reviewed studies have shown that eating or consuming something in the morning does help to start your metabolism.

The successful 'losers' who are part of the National Weight Control Registry all eat breakfast in the morning, at least 5 mornings a week. (the NWCR is made up of people who have lost 30 or more pounds and kept it off for 1 year or more).

At least two articles in the Journal of The American Dietitic Association also back this up. I was going to post links but they don't work if you aren't a member :(

"Eating early in the day keeps us from "starvation eating" later on, and it also jump-starts your metabolism, says Elisabetta Politi, RD, MPH, nutrition manager for the Duke Diet & Fitness Center at Duke University Medical School. "When you don't eat breakfast, you're actually fasting for 15 to 20 hours, so you're not producing the enzymes needed to metabolize fat to lose weight." - From www.webmd.com

Just wanted to put that out there since there is plenty of science-based research to back up the claim that eating in the morning helps your metabolism and weight loss.

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DonnaLee, thank you!!! That is great news :)

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Hi Beck, I have the book and I had the same question since it really helps me get through my morning without eating if I can have coffee. On page 57, he says that coffee & tea are encouraged bec caffeine is a mild appetite suppressant. As for the milk & sugar, it's ok if it is a minor intake of calories but to keep the additions as light as possible. He also says that there is one way to really mess up this diet and that is to take in a lot of extra calories during your fasting time by drinking lots of extra calories. But yes the coffee itself is fine according to the author of the book.



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I have a question concerning this diet, can I have coffee in the morning with a little cream ? I can do the "fasting" part in the morning, but I can't go without my coffee !

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Hi,
I'm so happy I have found people here who also think this lifestyle makes sense! I was relieved when I weighed this morning and realized I have kept the weight off that I originally lost with this plan (6 lbs) before I got sidetracked. I took advantage of the weekend (and sleeping later in the morning) to get back on.
IVE BEEN BAD, I like your way of thinking in the mornings.....focusing on the fat burning going on at that time. You get up early like I do so I don't really have an excuse! I'm going to also try to get focused on that in the mornings since that is my hardest time. So, you lost 6 pounds in 4 weeks! I think that is just fine, too.. I know we all would love to lose faster than that. But, as I stop and think about it, 6 lbs X 12 months = 72 in a year. That is a lot of weight to lose! I remember reading someone posting on this site or somewhere online that he/she only lost 3 1/2 pounds in 10 days. That doesn't sound like much but it adds up to 10 pounds a month. I'd love to lose 10 pounds this month! But like you said, the scale might not accurately reflect the inches being lost. Losing 2 inches off your waist is really something to be proud of. Something good is going on.
I also feel this plan gives me a lot of freedom to live a normal life. We had company come over this afternoon. It was a beautiful day so we grilled burgers outside. Normally, I would have felt like I broke my diet (whatever diet it might have been). But, because it falls into my 8 hour window, I was able to enjoy my burger! I have felt satisfied all afternoon and haven't even thought about food. If I do start to get hungry, I'll have some berries and light yogurt. I've come to think that maybe the reason I was always battling with hunger before discovering this plan was because I was always counting calories or carbs or something and never allowed myself to just simply have a good, satisfying meal. .
I appreciate reading all of your posts. It has put me back on track! Good luck to everyone this week!



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I am 51 and have struggled with weight all my life except basically through high school where I was so active with sports that it was not much of an issue.

I love this lifestyle because of the science. I have never believed that most of the things that they were telling us were true. There are no scientific studies showing that eating breakfast jump starts your metabolism or that it is even necessary or good to eat breakfast. I googled searched and could not come up with any scientific study backing up this advice. I did find this: and no, I do not know who this dude is, yourdoctorsorders.com/2012/10/is-breakfast
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, and it is exactly what I always suspected. In fact, it is looking like the science is saying just the opposite. It will be interesting in the next couple of years to see if they can keep espousing this fallacy or if the science will put them in jeopardy of misleading the public.

For the first time in my life I feel confident that we understand how humans were meant or evolved to eat. Taking in account how humans have had to eat for 99.9999% of the time they have existed on earth, it makes all the sense in the world. The fact that human tests and studies now show how well our bodies work in this environment, I give it 5 years before it is basically the accepted method for humans to eat.

As I said in my earlier post, I love waking up and mentally knowing my body is in fat burning mode. I do about 40 minutes of easy exercise and it just gives me all the confidence in the world that I have just put my body into fat burning mode. I get up at 5am, so I am awake for quite awhile before I have my first food around 12 or 1. Most days I don't even think about it because I am on a pretty natural high of feeling like my body is burning fat. If I get hungry, I will have a cup of coffe or tea and that almost always takes care of it. However, if I am just having one of those days, and they are rare, I will eat something. It took me a couple of weeks to get to this point, but once I started thinking more about my body being in fat burning mode and not thinking about food, it has been pretty easy.

After my work out, I just am always feeling like I am burning fat. The walk out to my car, the walk into work, I park as far away as I can so I can burn fat as I walk into work, lol. I take the stairs insead of the elevator to burn fat.

Now I can't lie, I have only dropped 6 pounds in four weeks. I've started trying to do this 6 weeks ago, but it took a couple of weeks before I was really on it. I would be pretty upset with this, but I can also honestly tell you I can see the changes in my body. My belt is down two holes and soon to be three. My thighs are loose, very loose in my jeans. I can reach every spot on my back with my hands now, lol. No more rubbing up against door jambs like a bear to scratch an itch! The fat is disappearing and the only thing I can think is that I am adding muscle. I do lift weights three times a week. Nothing tremendous and I am not busting it, but I do lift. Arnold Shwartzeneger is not in danger, lol. I am truly hoping the next month or two will lead to some serious weight loss, but I have stopped weighing myself. I know it goes against what they say, but I feel physically and mentally great and not seeing the losses can put a damper on it. I can see much better muscle definition in my arms and legs – not the gut and thankfully I can't see my butt! - but I have obviously lost in the gut(belt evidence) and probably the butt(no belt, even though it could use one).

When I start to think about the benefits of anti-aging, anti-alzheimer's, anti-cancer, anti-inflammation, it just make me feel great. I can't imagine anybody reading the science and not doing this, but they certainly don't. One lady on here even called the science specious, lol. If this science is specious what is the science for eating breakfast and it jump starting your metabolism called?

I have no dog in this fight. I figure you have already bought the book and I have nothing to do with the book. In fact, I don't like the fact that he says eat what you want and all you want. I don't believe it is true and it certainly wasn't my experience. Believe me, I tried to get away with it, lol. I do eat the eight food groups and then I basically do a South Beach or mediterranean meal. I am not promoting any products. I have asked for people to share with me the scientific studies showing that breakfast jump starts your metabolism or that grazing all day is good for you and have got nothing.

Best of luck to you and I think if we stick with this, good things are in our future.


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That was great to read both of your posts. I kind of needed to hear that right now because what you both describe is how I felt when I started this plan. Then, I got off track when my dad became ill and now I'm finding it difficult to get back on for some reason. I wake up early at 5:30 a.m. and I've been feeling hungry and giving in and eating something on the way to work. That doesn't give me enough time in my 8 hour window. I don't get home until 5:30 or 6:00 so I really need to wait until 11:00 to eat the first meal. Oh how I wish I was one of those persons who doesn't even want to eat in the morning.
Anyway, I feel encouraged after reading your posts. It reminds me of how good I felt when I was doing this. I'm determined to get started again in the morning. Glad to hear how well it is working for both of you.



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I love this lifestyle. Fortunately, I have always disliked eating when I woke up. After years of forcing myself to eat it, it took a little while to break the habit. I just love the way I feel in the morning now. Most days, I have little trouble making it to 12 or 1 before eating. By that time, I am a fine tuned hunter, lol. I always think about how much more fat I am burning by delaying that first eating. I also feel so much more mentally sharp. I probably average three crossword answers now! That's a 50% increase. I can also fill in a couple of numbers in the Sudoku, and if I could spell, I am sure I could get at least 1 or 2 answers in the Jumble. I eat two meals a day and have a handful of nuts and a piece of fruit somewhere along the day. I've been working out, but I haven't lost as much weight as I would have thought. I've lost girth, my belt is two holes in and I can reach anywhere on my back now! lol. I think, maybe, I have lost fat but replaced it with muscle. I have been lifting weights and doing interval training. That's my theory at least and I'm sticking with it. I feel great. I go to bed a lot earlier now and wake up and work out to get the fat burning going. I have confidence in the science, and it just seems like the natural way to live and eat.

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So sorry for your loss DonnaLee...I hope you are doing ok. The good thing about this "diet" (really more a way of eating for life!) is that you can kinda jump the track but then get back on. I am currently just training myself to skip breakfast, and then not eat (and when I say eat, I mean snack) in the evening. Sometimes I'm kinda hungry in the morning, but I find that looking foward to "breaking my fast" at 12 seems to help get through it. I feel like I'm enjoying lunch and dinner a lot more because I'm not always counting calories, which everyone knows is SUCH a drag. Sometimes I get cravings to snack while watching TV in the evening, but it's really true that if you don't give in, those cravings really do pass.

My current goals are: I need to stop eating so much sugar, that is a big problem for me; I need to get more fruit into my diet; and I need to work out more. But so far I'm really happy with this diet.and hoping I can get rid of the remaining belly fat - ugh, that is where every pound goes on me - I call it my pregnancy belly. Last week I only lost a few ounces (!) - but really, the fact that I'm pretty much eating whatever I want (pizza, burgers) during the 8 hour period and NOT gaining a pound, is astounding to me - to think when I was counting calories and eating boring salads I wasn't losing anything...really truly amazing. I think when I get closer to my goal, which is to look great at my niece's May wedding - if I get more disciplined about what I'm eating during the 8 hours, I can probably blast off those last pounds.

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Am trying this out with my own spin on it to make it work for me. As we all know, it's definitely not one size fits all.

Anyway, the intermittent fasting (not continuous fasting - please!) has strong, strong science behind it, so I'm comfortable with the health side of it.

In addition to the food plan, I've also felt a lot more energy on this plan. I've been getting 10,000 steps a day (I use my FitBit to track) and I've even been doing weight training more than my regular Friday session.

First week results are misleading, but I will say that I'm VERY happy with the scale thus far. This plan also allows me to live a relatively normal life socially, since my interactions with people are generally at dinner time (I'm solo for breakfast and lunch).

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That is good SPARKERART! I know it is slow but consistently losing a pound a week isn't as easy as it seems. Well, I got way off track. My dad went into the hospital and my schedule got crazy with late nights and mindless stress eating well into the evening. Sure enough, I gained the weight back that I had lost. Unfortunately, he passed but it was good he didn't suffer. Being at the hospital only made me more aware of how important it is to take care of yourself. Things can still happen but it certainly helps to have a healthy lifestyle and healthy weight. I'm ready to get back on this since I did stick to it for 3 weeks. I can do it again and it is something I can live with. Thanks for your posts.....they encourage me! You are doing very well!



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Lost another pound at last Saturday's weigh-in. Glad this diet is taking the weight off slowly, I think it's more likely to stay off...still working on not binging at lunch. Am doing some quick excerises in the morning. emoticon

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After weighing myself (I had forgotten to do that before my first week on the 8-hour diet), I found that after weighing myself the same day of the second week (I believe what I have read that you shouldn't weigh yourself every day, but every week to get a more accurate weight), I I lost 2 pounds. I agree with all the other posters, that whether or not the whole science behind the fasting thing works, one thing that definitely DOES work is stopping eating after the 8 hours. I am a big "eating while watching TV an hour after dinner" person, and I have not done this for 2 whole weeks, which is major for me. I My husband and I don't get home from work until around 7, and we want to be able to eat with our high school-age son, so I push my 8 hours to around 12-12:30pm to 8-8:30pm. Amazingly, it's not that hard for me; I just dont get that hungry in the AM. I do a workout every morning around 7 and have so far not experienced the dizziness that another poster referenced.I have actually been able to stick to this diet every day with only a few exceptions.Here's my assessment so far:

Pros: Prevents all-morning snacking and after-dinner snacking; so far seems to be working with 2-lb weight loss; seems easy to stick with

Cons: I feel I'm sometimes overeating at lunch and dinner, including indulging in dessert (I'm trying to break my sugar habit) - I think I'm just so hungry by lunch that I'm binging; also I worry I'm not getting enough nutrition - I used to always have yogurt in the AM and now worry I have cut out a big source of calcium because I don't feel like eating yogurt at lunch; also, I have always tended toward bloating, and that has NOT improved on this diet.

I plan to stick with the plan to see if I actually am losing weight or if these are just normal fluctuations.Will check in again after my next weigh-in. emoticon

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FlippityFlop, I apologize to you! I just re-read my last post and realized I typed an error on your name. I apologize for that.



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I'm so sorry it isn't working for others but I guess each of us have to find our own way. Cochamama, you described my experience perfectly! I don't feel like I'm skipping breakfast, only delaying it till 10 or 10:30. Then I eat a satisfying meal and, like you, I don't get hungry again until much later. I no longer think about food all day.....not tempted by chocolate or anything. Then, I eat another good meal at 6 or 6:30 and I feel full....no need to snack at night. I'm really shocked this is working for me & I really don't know why but very happy with the way it affects my hunger level & puts me in control of my eating.
There was one day recently that I gave in and ate an early breakfast on the way to work like I used to do (an egg mcmuffin) --- enough calories but it didn't stick with me. Wow, it set me up for a long day of eating. I felt hungry all day. So I got back on this plan the next day & am now back in control if my eating. That being said, I DO think that if I were eating a small number of calories at that breakfast meal, it probably wouldn't work for me. I eat a couple of pancakes, lean ham, & a tall glass of skim milk. I'm really satisfied when I finish that meal & I think that may be one reason it is working for me. I have tried everything else & this is the fitrst time I have been able to stick to something. ClippityClop, I'm happy for you that you found a plan of eating that is working for you too! 3 pounds in one week is fantastic!



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I have not read the book, but for the last week have been eating between 10AM and 6PM only. I do get hungry about 9AM and just wait it out till 10. Not too bad in my opinion! I eat mostly healthy the 8 hours, but don't know or follow the 8 superfoods that the book mentions. Here is my feedback:
CONS:
1. Get hungry before 10AM
2. Must schedule dinner to finish by 6PM

PROS:
1. Eliminates evening snacking (has been a problem for more years than I can count
2. Eliminates obsession with food---food thoughts from 10AM on just 'disappeared'
3. NO hunger after 10AM...zero. I eat a good dinner by 6PM and never consider eating again.
4. More energy in the morning before breakfast and after dinner.
5. Have lost 2 lbs in one week.



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It is possible that this works for some. We are all different.

I know I feel weird and shaky all day, when I skip breakfast. It just ruins my day. And then usually I eat everything in site.

So waiting to eat doesn't work for me. This is a recipe for disaster for me, it is a guarantee that I will find some chips and cookies and candy. In an effort to get rid of the shaky disoriented feeling.

For me I wouldn't go out and start my car driving it on a empty tank. With plans to fill up later in the morning. It wont drive and will damage the engine. I can't start myself on an empty tank.

Edited by: MANDIETERRIER1 at: 2/25/2013 (15:05)
Made it to my maintenance weight of 125 pounds.

Even though I have reached goal. I still don't know everything about weight loss.

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8 Hour Diet vs Eating 4-5 small daily Meals

Well I gave the eight hour diet my best shot and staying very close to the plan. I did not eat anything I wanted though - I stayed with healthy choices and 1600 cal per day. The Good - I was rarely hungry and it helped me to realize that I don't need to eat after dinner anymore! The Bad is - about 5 days into the plan about a hour after working out I got extremely dizzy and jittery - I could not even sleep - it was a very bad feeling. I went to my kitchen and made some toast and peanut butter and I started feeling a little better. I got real dizzy twice on this plan - must be blood sugar drops etc. After doing this for 8 days I lost about 1.8 lbs.

I then switched to eating my regular 1600 calories in 4-5 small meals daily and stopped eating around 7pm - I would have breakfast around 6 am so there was no 16 hour fasts going on. I dropped 3 lbs over the next 7 days with this method with no dizzyness or horrible bloating that I got on the 8 hour diet. I do believe the 8 hour diet just about shut down my metabolism - I could just see it and feel it. Now God made us all a little bit different and Im sure the plan will work great for others but not me. Im a big man and I have to stoke the coals to keep my body running...God Bless



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Today, I am starting week 2 of the 8 hour diet. This plan makes total sense to me unless you have a special health problem. I don't think our bodies are designed to eat from 7 AM till 10 PM. and that is what many people are doing.
I lost 2 pounds the first week and never once felt hungry or deprived. I leave very early in the morning for work and then drive an hour so it has been hard for me to do the exercise even though it is only 8 minutes. I'm going to work on that component this week.
I am the person who buys every magazine at the grocery store so I can try every diet. Then, I never stick to anything long enough to really get this weight off. On my many previous diet attempts, I end up getting hungry or wanting a carb or something sweet or having too many points or going over my calorie limit. This plan has given me freedom from all that. This past week, my mind was not focused on food and/or hunger. I'm not tempted to snack AT ALL during the day or at night...because I am pleasantly full and definitely satisfied. Things that used to trigger my hunger during the day have no effect on me anymore. I'm not craving chocolate or sweets in the afternoon. This plan has completely changed the way I eat in just one week.
I wait until 10 or 10:30 a.m. to have breakfast but then I have a really good filling breakfast. I may be criticized for what I have but I'll go ahead and tell you honestly what I eat every morning. Pancakes with 0 cal butter spray (yes, I know it has calories), Joseph's sugar-free maple syrup (delilcious!), very lean ham, and a glass of skim milk which I love. I could probably have real margarine and full-fat milk according to the book, but I like the lower fat / lower sugar foods so why not eat as healthy as possible.
I realize now that, in the past, I was always trying to keep my calorie count down and I never felt full or satisfied so 2 - 3 hours later, I wanted something else to eat. Now that I'm having this great breakfast, I don't even think about eating again until about 3:00 PM and even then my hunger is very mild. So, I use that opportunity to have some of the 8 foods from the 8 hour diet plan. I usually have yogurt with berries and a few nuts, a small leafy green salad with a little olive oil and lemon juice. I try my best to squeeze in grapefruit or an apple but sometimes I'm so full, I have to wait until later. One afternoon, a co-worker brought me a turkey Subway sandwich and I tried to eat it but ended up throwing half away. I was just too full and had no appetite. That is so unlike me.
All day long, I drink lots of water and green tea. For dinner, I try to go with fish or chicken & vegetables but I'll include a starchy vegetable or rice if I want it. I want to eat healthy but not be super restrictive. One evening for dinner, I even had a hamburger and I was surprised I still had a weight loss the next morning. My appetite has been so light when I get home from work that I often just have a nice salad with grilled chicken on it and I'm very happy with it. That is also not typical of me. I'm usually very hungry when I get home.
So, I guess you can tell I like this plan! The question is if I can still continue to lose weight doing this. I sure hope so because I can stick to this for a lifetime. I only have to adjust my 8 hour eating window according to my plans for that particular day. So, time will tell. We will see what Week 2 brings! I am hopeful. If I can lose even 1- 2 pounds a week, that is more than I was losing before. I hope others have a good experience with it, too. I feel as if I have found a wonderful secret that I have been looking for.



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Am in the same boat, FlippityFlop...but I also didn't exercise because I have been fighting the flu...amazingly I could still stick to the eating plan even while not feeling well...but I havent been active. Am hoping to see some progress next week. emoticon

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The problem is that unlike the mice, during the 8 hours, we can go get fast food. Sure the mouse can eat a bunch during the 8 hours, but he can't go eat food with 3X the calories.

It would be like me allowing you to eat as much green beans as you wanted for 8 hours. You might pig out on them, but you would still lose weight because you starved yourself for 16 hours. The problem with humans is we aren't mice. If you eat 3000 calories in 8 hours, you still gain weight.

Comparing us to mice is folly, until you put a drive-thru in the cage.

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8 hr disappointment so far. I have been on the diet for 7 days and my weight has not moved. I believe I have a very sensitive body and when I started fasting my body went right into survival mode and my metabolism slowed way down. I have stayed very close to my 1600 calories per day. The only area I think I'm lacking in is enough exercise. I did not exercise most days during the fasting period. I had one good day and that was yesterday, I got up and did a 35 minute walk/jog and I felt energized all day. I have not felt that good in a long time. So I think I will give it a few more days - I would hate to the stop this diet if I'm on the verge of a breakthrough - I will add more fasting period exercise and see if anything changes...



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GSnider, please keep us updated on how it goes! I really appreciate your positive approach to this diet. I am 9 days in and have lost 3.5 lbs.....12 more lbs. to go. I feel like a million bucks!! So much more energy in the afternoons and also a sense of accomplishment at the end of the day. I am doing the same as you: simply observing the 8 hour eating rule. I walk my dogs twice a day (slowly since one is very old) as I usually do and take a high quality multivitamin and omega-3 fish oil. I feel so much better that I haven't cheated one day yet----I'm afraid I'll go back to feeling sluggish and bloated. Once I get to my goal weight, I plan to adjust the diet down to following it 3-4 days per week. I'm so excited that this will become a great life-long, healthy way of living! emoticon Thanks again for your post, Susan

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Remember when they said, don't eat after 8pm and you'll lose weight. This sounds like don't eat after 6pm and don't start eating before 10am and you'll lose weight. Wait a few more years and you'll only be allowed to eat between 11 am and 1pm. LOL





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Interesting article:

Extended Daily Fasting Overrides Harmful Effects of a High-Fat Diet: Study May Offer Drug-Free Intervention to Prevent Obesity and Diabetes

www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/05/120517131703.htm

"...mice limited to eating during an 8-hour period are healthier than mice that eat freely throughout the day, regardless of the quality and content of their diet.

"Our findings,..., suggest that regular eating times and fasting for a significant number of hours a day might be beneficial to our health."

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Part of the premise of the 8 hour diet is that you eat certain foods, not just graze on whatever you want during the window of opportunity. Quite frankly, it worries me a little to think that there are lightheaded/dizzy people out there on the roads during rush hour in the morning, because they've got a couple hours to go before they break their fast and start eating for the day. Your liver may be burning up stored stuff-- but is your brain getting what it needs? It would be interesting if people on this "diet" tested their blood sugar at various times, to see what effect continuous 16 hour fasting had. Low blood sugar can make you dizzy, shaky, not thinking clearly. Low enough, and you pass out.

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Ok, glad to hear someone else feels bloated...I guess it could be because I was hitting the salty foods a little too much...I didn't weigh myself before I started 7 days ago (duh) but I have followed the diet pretty religiously for the past 7 days as far as the 8-hour window is concerned, and I don't *think* I've lost anything. Time will tell. Now that I know my starting weight I'll see what the scale tells me next Saturday. Am very worried that this "not-eating-before-11:30am" thing is going to slow my metabolism down. However, I have to say that it is at least getting my out of my habit of diving into a box of cheezits or a bag of cookies during my nightly TV-watching...so anything that stops that habit can't be all bad, and I feel like that alone should be helping calorie-wise. Will be interested to see what others continue to experience on this diet.

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8 Hr diet 6 Days so Far.
Pros:
* Not hungry most of the time - mostly get quite hungry one hour before breaking the fast.
* Fairly Easy to do
* Helping me to break a 50 year nightime snack habit
Cons:
* Weight Loss seems very slow
* Experiencing Dizziness/Light headedness in the morning about a hour or so before breaking the fast

Overall Observations: Can not just Eat whatever I want like the book says - I still have to stay on my 1600 calories a day diet. I have done very little exercise so thats probably keeping the weight from falling off easier. Its weird but before I started this diet when I did not snack at night and maintained my 1600 calories and daily 30 walking the weight came down quickly. Although the book claims that fasting does no slow your metabolism down I cant help but feel that it is? I can see it in my bloated belly. I seem to be holding water weight like there is no tomorrow - yes I drink tons. Before the 8 hr diet this did not happen, when ever starting my 1600 cal regular diet I would drop 5 lbs the first week - yes it was water but at least I did not feel bloated like I do now - I feel like my body is trying to hold on to every little morsel I give it. Other Stuff: This 8hr diet was obviously stolen from the Leangains.com site and modified with tons of hype to sell books. But that does not negate the reason we are all here - we want to know if it works! I will post weeks weight loss/gain tomorrow at the end of Week One. If I am disappointed with the results I will slowly modify the plan for optimum results..God Bless







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Please do post how you are doing I am about to go on this 8 hour diet very soon, I missed the program on TV do you know how much you can lose and how long it takes for you to notice the weight loss? I will look forward to seeing your results.



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I was going to let this thread play itself out, but I'll make another comment.

DIETCOLALOLA (love your name!) commented: "..I think there might be some logic behind not grazing all day and limiting food intake to 8 hours."

I have not read the book.
I don't know the "rules".
I have tried this for only 10 days, not the rest of my life.
I have not even done it every day, probably about 6 times or so in the past 10 days since I saw the segment on the Today Show last week.

On the days I have done it, I have followed only 1 rule - eat for only 8 hours in that day.

It has not been hard. Oh, sure, during the 16 hour fasting window, I've wanted to eat something, but not because I was starving, just because of mindless "grazing" habits I've developed before.

During the 8 hour eating window, I've eaten pretty much like normal. I have not made a particular effort to clean up my eating - not that I'm a bad eater anyway. I've even allowed myself a Klondike ice cream bar in the evenings on several occasions. (for me, a Klondike bar is portion control - better than sitting down with an open container of ice cream. No need to lecture me - I've made my peace with ice cream and it is in the form of one Klondike bar when I want it.)

The thing I am realizing is that in the traditional "grazing" eat-5-to-6-small-meals-throughout-the-day, for me it simply becomes eating 5-6 meals throughout the day. I start early and finish late.

At least with the 8 hour window, I limit my eating to 8 hours. I can only consume so many calories in that limited time. And it is enough time. I don't go crazy. I'm not stupid about it. I eat. Then I stop. If I really feel like I need something, I drink water or hot (green) tea. Amazing how that can fill me up! And clean me out! :)

I know, 6 times in 10 days is not a lifetime. But right now, I'm thinking I can do this for a lifetime. It seems to work with my schedule. I don't have to do it every day. I can to it 2 or 3 times (or more or less) a week. No stressing about it.

I'll do this for a while and evaluate. Maybe I'll move on to the next trendy fad diet. Maybe I'll go back to eating 5-6 "small" meals from the time I get up to the time I go to bed like everyone else.

But maybe there's something to it. And, you know, there is also some satisfaction for me to feel some hunger and to not yield to it. Before, I'd feel some hunger and think - "need to have a snack - keep the fire burning."

I think it is good to challenge traditional thinking from time to time. If the traditional thinking is valid, it will prove itself to be. If the "trend" is not valid, it will surly fail over time. If the "trend" has any validity, it, too, will prove itself over time.

And there is not just "one answer". There can be several methods that are valid. "Traditional thinking" can be valid. Something else can be, too.

Your experiences are certainly different than mine. Just sharing mine thus far.

oh, the point of all of this...I stepped on the scale this morning and I am down 6# from 10 days ago. Don't worry, I have not had my Klondike bar yet today. I'm sure I'll put it back on! :)

Am I worried? No. I'm an experiment of one. I like to try things and see how I respond to it.



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Diet books sell (especially at this time of year) and I agree with Miss Ruth that there will be something new out there again soon. Still, I read a lot about the reasoning for the 8 hour window (emptying the glycogens / calories stored in your liver so that you can start burning fat for energy) and I found it compelling. I remember when "dinner cancelling" was all the rage and essentially that is the same thing as the 8 hour diet. I know it won't be popular here but I think there might be some logic behind not grazing all day and limiting food intake to 8 hours.

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Personally (and this is JMO) it seems like *everybody* is jumping on the, write a diet book, bandwagon. You can come up with (or steal from someone else) some new-ish idea, write a book, go on all the talk shows, and make a ton of money off people who are desparate to try some new thing, to lose weight. Especially if you can claim more than a one to two pound weight loss per week. (p.s. it doesn't matter if your claims are true or not. You can just say stuff and people will believe it.)

sigh. I am not a gambler but I've got a nickel that says before the month is over, there'll be something else "new" out there. I'm with the other posters that said, if I can't follow it for the rest of my life, it's not the plan for me.



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I have started the 8 hr diet over the weekend but went off due to relatives staying at my house. They are gone and so here I am. I can say one thing so far about the diet - I dont seem to get too hungry during the 16 hour fast time. A doctor said there is a very good reason for this - when you don't eat for 16 hours your stomach begins to shrink. This has to be the answer as when I break my fast at 9:30 in the morning I have a nice protein shake with fruit blended in. Its only about 225 calories but I get so full I dont eat again until about 1 or 2 and then I have a little bigger meal of about 400 calories - I will have an apple for a snack too. I save about 700 calories for my last meal at 5:30 PM. I eat healthy food at least 80% and 20% for whatever.
I drink oolong tea and decaf coffee during my fast time. I will report here weekly of my progress or nonprogress. God Bless

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I have been fasting 16 hours some days so I eat breakfast after swimming 2 hours.... It is working but I don't do it every day...



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I think people should eat when they are hungry, real whole foods.

Having said that most days I am not hungry until 10am and eat my last meal before 7pm. So that's 9 hours. I eat 3 meals a day no snacks except whole raw cream in my tea. I have maintained for my weight after losing 10 lbs for a few years now and my body composition has vastly improved while maintaining.

What I have learned is that everybody is different. What works for one person won't work for the next. So keep searching until you find what works for you.

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I agree with your comment "I don't think the idea is cutting calories."

However (I'll speak for myself) I think that if I limit my eating to an 8 hour window, I'll consume less calories than if I graze for 10-12 or more hours - with what we've been taught as the traditional "5-6 'small' meals throughout the day".

I think I might have more discipline to fast for the 16 hour window than I have demonstrated to myself to define a "small" meal. What I mean by that is I'll have "5-6 meals" throughout the day, but I'm not careful about the size. Or I'm not really having 5-6, I'm just consuming constantly throughout the day.

Therefore, I think I might consume less calories simply by virtue of limiting my window of "opportunity".

And, I think your are right that the concept is also to give the body more time to process the food.

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I don't think the idea is cutting calories. From what I read the idea is that the body has more time to process what you have eaten. They do consider a study from the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition. Just throwing this out there.

"Consider this 2007 American Journal of Clinical Nutrition study: Researchers divided study participants into two groups and had each group eat the same number of calories — enough for them to maintain their weight. The only difference: One group ate all their calories in three meals spread throughout the day, while the other practiced intermittent fasting, eating the same number of calories but in a restricted time frame. Among the results: Participants who ate in a smaller window of time had a “significant modification of body composition, including reductions in fat mass.”

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It is something to consider though.... you want to keep off the weight you lose, right? So generally, the eating/lifestyle changes you make need to be ones you can maintain for long periods of time. So if you think you can't maintain it for a long period of time (ie years), then it's probably not the best plan.

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I don't know if I could do it for the rest of my life. I tend to not set "rest of my life" goals. I have a hard enough time with a New Years resolution! I usually try a quarterly / 90 day goal, see how it goes and adjust from there. Maybe that's just a personal life management style.

I know people who fast in one form or another for religious reasons over a long period of time. It's not unreasonable to consider.

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Good points, Russell.

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So on this 8 hour diet, do you plan to or even can you do it for the rest of your life? If the answer is no, well, that's a pretty big answer as to whether or not this will work.

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If you ate enough to feel full for the other 16 hours, I doubt you would be losing weight. Most people eat over 12-14 hours, and still get hungry at night sometimes. Plus are there any other guidelines besides don't eat for 16 hours.

If it is also recommended to not overeat, that can be done on any diet. It would seem to me that if I was to cut a meal, I would cut dinner. That is the one I am most likely to overindulge in. Of course if I went 16 hours without eating, my lunch would probably be 3000 calories..lol.

As a diabetic, who has controlled it through diet, and weight loss, and is no longer on medication for it... I agree with the hypoglycemic poster, on similar concerns. I got to be diabetic because I spiked my blood sugars at infrequent, large meals. I have learned to eat 4-5 meals a day, of smaller portions, and doubt 2 large meals is healthy. For every diabetic/ hypoglycemic who is diagnosed, there are others who are undiagnosed, or heading towards that by eating in an unbalance way. I now only worry about low blood sugars, and while you can argue that most people aren't hypoglycemic, or diabetic... wouldn't it be nice to eat in a way that might prevent messing up your body processes, instead of waiting to be diagnosed with a disease to make changes.

The way we eat once we get sick is a healthy way to eat. It is how you are supposed to eat all the time, but we somehow eat a terrible diet, and say we'll eat healthy once we have a deadly disease. That is madness. There isn't a different way to eat when you are healthy , or unhealthy, it is just easier to convince you once are dying that you should make changes. Do yourself a favor, and switch BEFORE you get sick.

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Not really a lot of rules - just limit eating to an 8 hour window. ...and have some "smarts" about what it is you are eating during that time. No one is suggesting you pig out or eat junk.

Might take some time and discipline to not make it through the 16 hour fasting window, but it can be done.

Not for everyone, though.

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I don't know anything about it but I've found any "diet" with so many rules, is a waste of effort.

Plus, if I could only eat during an 8 hour window, I'd be STARVING a few hours after the window is over.

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"Restricting the "time" that you can eat food to just 8 hours; does not necessarily cut calories enough for weight loss to occur."

Good point. I think he would reply that if you really abide by the 8 hour rule, you will be full enough to not eat in excess.

BTW, I am not promoting this, just saw it yesterday and was interested.

Also, I would think that if someone would want to do this, they would have a reason to be doing it in the first place and would not purposely eat in excess. The challenge, of course, is to keep the intake to the 8 hour rule.

He also says this does not have to be a 7 day a week program - people can see benefit in only 2 or 3 days a week.

As I see it, one of the main points is to not be consuming calories for such a long time during the day.

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i watched all the clips yesterday and even read the magazine article earlier this week.. for some reason, i cant grasp it and am not sure that that is really healthy. i am hypoglycemic and am afraid that people will start to see symptoms of that by using this diet.



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Restricting the "time" that you can eat food to just 8 hours; does not necessarily cut calories enough for weight loss to occur.

I do not endorse these concepts.

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The author of the book The 8 Hour Diet was making the media rounds yesterday (Jan 2, 2013).

Here is the video clip from The Today Show about The 8 Hour Diet. Matt Lauer really pushes back on the author about the program:
Start the new year off light with ‘8-Hour Diet’
Losing weight is one of the most popular New Year’s resolutions, and everyone is always looking for new ways to shed the pounds. David Zinczenko shares tips featured in his new book, “The 8-Hour Diet.”
today.msnbc.msn.com/id/3041426/vp/50342637
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Here is a link from the same author on the Kathy Lee and Hoda show later in the day:
Count to 7 or 8 and lose the weight with two diets
David Zinczenko, the author of “The 8-Hour Diet,” and JJ Virgin, author of “The Virgin Diet,” share two diets for the new year that incorporate numbers. With the 8-Hour Diet, you eat the foods you choose within an 8-hour period, exercise for eight minutes, and incorporate eight power foods. On the Virgin Diet, you drop seven foods from your diet to lose seven pounds in seven days.
today.msnbc.msn.com/id/3041426/vp/50343738
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Here is a link on Amazon.com to the book The 8 Hour Diet:
www.amazon.com/8-Hour-Diet-Disappear-Witho
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One of the reviews for the book says this:
"Having said all that, "The 8 Hour Diet" was [allegedly] stolen from leangains.com, Martin Berkhan's website. He has been writing about the 16/8 fasting diet for years, which in turn has turned the bodybuilding world upside down. He has changed countless amounts of blog and forum members lives with his methods. It's a shame "The 8 Hour Diet" makes no mention of him or his website.

So, if you're interested in this book, check out Leangains.com for original (and FREE!) version of the diet."

I googled Leangains and found the the guide:
www.leangains.com/2010/04/leangains-guide.
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Interesting article about the mental discipline to achieve your fitness goals:
www.leangains.com/2010/01/marshmallow-test
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Sorry for all the links. You can read, google and click around to get more info.
I will read more about it and try it. Maybe only 2 or 3 days a week to see how it goes.

Does anyone in Spark land have experience with this?
Let me know what you think.
I'm interested in your opinion.



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