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5/31/16 4:59 A

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really depends on how "good" your calories are. 1200 calories worth of fruits and vegetables are still better than 1200 calories worth of chips.

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I have Hashimoto and hypothyroidism (slow metabolism). I used to eat 1200 calories as a vegetarian. I went vegan for the animals over 3 years ago and have lost 123 pounds plus I eat 2000 plus calories a day :)

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5/26/16 1:53 P

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I eat an average of 1400 calories a day for the past 7 days and my weight has not changed even though I exercise 10 hours a week. It seems to go up and down. My maximum allowed before exercise is 1550, I have have set it so it does not change with exercise. I have lost 6 pounds this month. I will keep trying. emoticon



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5/26/16 1:41 P

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Ok, about the starvation mode below 1200 calories per day stuff. First your calories per day changes with weight sex and age. So a 500 pound man exercising for an additional 1000 calories per day may go into starvation mode at 1200 calories per day because he cannot squeeze the nutrients he needs into 1200 calories. However a 40 year old woman weighing 100 lbs will actually be gaining weight at 1200 calories per day if she isn't exercising.
If your getting your recommended nutrients you will not go into starvation mode. In fact you will loose fat faster and feel better by using the least number of calories possible and still get your nutrients. I'm a 210 lb 48 year old man. I keep my calories between 1000 and 1500. My BMR is 2380 sedentary and i do enough exercise to create a 1750 calorie deficit each day so i loose a half pound a day. I feel fine and if anything my activity and energy levels are increasing.

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5/26/16 7:11 A

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My BMR (sedentary) is 2380. I weigh 210 lbs. I cut my calorie consumption to 1380 and I exercise to burn another 1000 calories per day. I'm dropping 1 pound every 2 days.
If you are male at 157 lbs your BMR is only 1703.
If you are a female at 157 lbs your BMR is only 1537. To do what i am doing you would have to cut your calories to 537 per day and exercise as much as i am.
You have to create a 3500 calorie deficit to loose one lb of fat. How fast you do this and how you do this is up to you.
If you limited your calories to 1200 per day and don,t exercise it will take you 10 days to loose a pound.
Google BMR calculator on the web to find out exactly what your BMR is and work from there.

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I eat a maximum of 1450 calories a day, yesterday only 1200, it can vary how much I eat daily. I try to exercise 10 hours a week with 3 hours of that cardio and the rest walking and keep a close watch on my diet and plan for the week. I do make a few changes daily but, it gives me an idea of what to eat. My weight this month has gone down 8 pounds. I guess I have a fast metabolism and some days it goes up, other days it goes down. emoticon emoticon



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You have gotten a lot of great information here so far.

I'd like to add one thing: WHAT you eat really does matter. When I eat pizza, I can easily gain two pounds (yes, I weigh myself every day). I am pretty sure that processed carbs are the problem for me. Your issue may be a different food.

Consider whether you may have a food sensitivity that is causing bloating. It's possible. Ask your doctor about this.

Another thing to consider: you can cut calories, but not exercising enough will cause your weight loss to be slower than you might expect.

Keep working at it, and you'll lose the weight and be healthy before you know it!



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I eat 1450 calories a day and walk or go to the gym for 60 minutes a day, my present weight is 156, it was 163 when I started at the beginning of the month, I also plan all my meals for the week taking in to account vitamins and minerals,fat,carbs,protein and everything else is correct, it takes me some work, but it works for me. emoticon emoticon emoticon



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How much do you weigh? I ask because if you're very thin 1200 calories will nother create enough of a deficit for you to lose weight. Also do you exercise?



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Never let the scale discourage you. Try staying under 32 fat grams a day for a week and see what kind of progress you make?



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Two pounds in one month sounds about perfect. I would certainly not eat fewer than 1200 calories unless in a medical weight management program. Weigh and measure and record everything. Just a few missed items can add up.
To lose more than half a pound each week is just not realistic for many women. The important thing is to stick with it. Two pounds a month is 24 pounds in a year, a significant bit of progress. You did not get to your current weight in just a month or two. Are you walking 10,000 steps a day and getting in an hour of exercise each day? I'm working towards that goal as I firmly believe it's the only way to keep off the weight once I lose it. Remember that muscle weighs more than fat. It does help you burn calories, but that happens over time. A month is just too short to get the real picture of what you can achieve in any program, whether medical weight management or Spark People.



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1200 calories is too small of an amount to eat. Your metabolism is slower as a result; thus, this is why you're not losing a whole lot of weight. You need to eat at least 1600 calories, and even then, I would recommend seeing a registered dietitian for a more specific diet.

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5/22/16 6:14 P

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It was to anyone really.

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I walk the same but now go to the gym 3 x a week for 60 minutes each time.



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JODIJ13 - Was that reply to me?



JERF - Just Eat Real Food

I'm a Certified Personal Trainer.

I'm not a doctor or dietitian. I'm just a real whole foods nutrition nerd.

I eat mostly vegetables, fats, meats, some fruit and dark chocolate. Unprocessed and preservative free food. And it's changed my life!

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5/22/16 11:59 A

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If you are eating the recommended calories on here (which is healthy) to lose weight and you are exercising a lot will that put you into starvation mode? Technically you are taking in what is needed.

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LIN1263 - I find it fascinating that you are losing weight eating more!

Is your exercise routine the same as when you were eating 1200 calories?

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I'm 5'4" and maintain on 1900-2900 calories a day. If I decided today to lose 5 lbs and set up my trackers as such, I could make the computer say I should eat 1200-1500 calories a day but I would literally be starving myself. So not healthy.

Be careful about setting realistic goal weights and realistic goal end dates when setting up your account. A slower loss lets you eat more and can help set you up for long term success.

IMO eating real food at the calorie intake for your goal weight is a good way to go. It helps you learn how you need to eat for a lifetime.

Edited by: JUSTEATREALFOOD at: 5/22/2016 (07:11)
JERF - Just Eat Real Food

I'm a Certified Personal Trainer.

I'm not a doctor or dietitian. I'm just a real whole foods nutrition nerd.

I eat mostly vegetables, fats, meats, some fruit and dark chocolate. Unprocessed and preservative free food. And it's changed my life!

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Lowering my A1C and keeping my blood sugar levels steady eating LCHF.


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I put myself on a 1400 calories a day diet and lost 6 pounds this month, I walk about 7 hours a week and ride the stationary bike for 3 hours a week. I now weigh 157 pounds. I was on a 1200 calorie a day diet I put myself on and did not lose weight because my metabolism slowed down even though I was eating properly and doing lots of exercise. For some people it works better to eat a little bit more like it did for me..Good luck!! emoticon emoticon I have 17 more pounds to lose.



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20 pounds in one month is a lot of weight



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1200 per day is not starvation. Most Doctors recommend 1200 to 1500 per day.



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Hi 3_Libra,
I would love to hear more about your process. Are you still eating 1350 and losing? I have a similar weight profile and goals as you and I have been eating 1200 for about ten days. The first few days I dropped three pounds which could be normal weight fluctuation. For the past week I have dropped nothing and I am a little surprised/worried.

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Hi,
I am interested in your process. Are you still eating 1350 and losing? I have a similar weight profile and goals as you and I have been eating 1200 for about ten days. The first few days I dropped three pounds which could be normal weight fluctuation. For the past week I have dropped nothing and I am a little surprised/worried.

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That is to small of amount of calories to eat.



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KFSTAAB, that's not really slow. That's about perfect, in fact. I look at it this way.... as porky as I still am, if I did what you've accomplished for four years, I'd weigh fifteen pounds.

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Been eating 1200-1500 calories/day and average just under 1lb/week I am down 20 pounds with 20 to go Happy with my loss so far even though it is slow!

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Your body is holding on to calories to keep your heart, brain, lungs and other major organs going, that is why you don't lose weight. Your body knows you are starving it.

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watch the carbs - your body uses carbs for energy first! When you cut carbs and load up on protein instead, you loose weight because the body burns its stored fat. I lost 45 pounds that way. You'll see results 'cause it works!

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Started out good, now I'm at a stand still.

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I know this sounds backwards, and you are free to do some research on the topic if you want. In fact, I would encourage you to do so.

Your body is smart and has gone into starvation mode. It (your body) will hold onto every little bit of food you eat, because it knows there are not any more nutrients coming in.

The best way to combat this problem is to slowly increase your calories each week (50-100) would be a good place to start. Pay close attention to how your body is responding. If you are gaining, reduce those calories by 25. This is a slow process, but your body will thank you for it. Eventually, working your way back up to maintenance. Once you have been on maintenance, begin to reduce your calories, with one caveat, once a week give your body a "refeed" or eat one day at maintenance. Reduce your calories slowly and remember the goal is not to reduce your calories to the lowest amount. Wouldn't it be great to be able to eat copious amounts of food and still lose weight? That's your goal.



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I did the same only I lost 15

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I was eating 1200 calories a day and not losing. Upped my intake to 1500 calories a day and started losing.I don't know all the science, but when you take in too few calories, your body holds on to all it can get.



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Sorry samr18, but I gotta' think troll. First post and it's a ridiculous statement like that? Nah.

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SAMR18 - Nobody should EVER cut calories that much without being medically supervised. Will you lost weight? Absolutely. Is it healthy - that is a decision that is made between a physician and a patient - nobody should ever make that decision without a physician's input.

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11/25/15 7:50 A

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I eat 300-400 calories a day and I burn 250+ from exercising and I lost one pound in 3 DAYS, I think that if you really want to loose weight the only way for you to loose weight is to eat LESS than 600 calories a day, depends on your height and weight of course

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Bettebet: Welcome to SPark!! Lots of great articles here, and good tools!!

My initial response to your plan brings up a number of questions, rather than answers...! You certainly don't need to answer these publically...but might want to think about them...and do some research before arbitrarily deciding to cut way back, then slowly increase your calories....

1. What is your current calorie level? (If you've been eating at say 3000 cal/day and drastically cut that...you will likely Not be a happy camper for long!! Might be better to reverse your plan: cut back a moderate amount...then further after you are used to it...)
2. How much weight do you plan to lose total?
3. How many pounds a week are you trying to lose?
If you have a lot of weight to lose, then you might find it easy to lose more to start with...if you have only a modest amount to lose...plan on no more than 1-2 lbs a week....and be prepared to lose less than that when you get closer to a healthy weight....
4. What calorie range does Spark suggest, given that you input goals with the idea of losing 1-2lbs a week?? THIS is the key question, and the best starting place!! Spark's range will allow you to lose safely. Personally, I like the freedom of a range from the get-go rather than trying to stick to one level or this level, or this level...etc, etc....
5. Is your eating plan one you can stick with for Life?? Most important!!

All the best as you learn a new way of Life!!
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New Rules: Veggies; then Protein; then Carbs! Exercise 10 min after meal...!


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I skimmed through this thread and never saw a follow up by the original poster. Stating that this happens with "every plan" kind of indicates starting, stopping or jumping around to me. My answer is that this one is working for you, so stick with it. Two pounds a month for twenty four month is 48 pounds. That's nothing to sneeze at and I'd bet it took way longer than that to gain that much. ???

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Hi
I am considering trying the following food plan. Would love input and insights.
Minimal carbs. Lots of veggies, fruit and plant proteins. Some eggs. Cheese as calories increase.
Increasing these same foods for the following calorie counts
Week one 1200 calories per day. .
Week two: 1300 calories
Week three: 1400 calories
Week four : 1500 calories
Week five": 1600 calories staying here until I hit goal weight.
What do you all think?

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I was also doing the 1200 calorie thing and noticed my weight loss died down once I started exercising a whole lot... I totally needed more.

Also, you should consider weighing your foods out to be sure you are not inaccurately thinking you are consuming certain portion sizes. I started that and realized my perception was way off.



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Then main thing is to look up what you eating and see just how many calories it is and Measure your food . A lot of you Is not loosing because you not take to right calories count. I see what I'm eating from dinner and look up to see what the calories count for small med large and cup size your right in take is what count

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I meant to said I don't drink pop anymore

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Two year ago before I got sick and when off my diet I did The 1200 calories a day with an 1 1/2 hour of exercise . My first month I lost 34 pound . One day out the week I ate what ever I want and I holiday. I allow my self to cheat sometime . There Some week I lost 6 pound . Some 4 and 5 pound and some 2 pound .and sometime I put on 2 pound . I got got down from 259 to 219 in three months I got sick because I was over exercise and I when off my diet.and I would get hungry some time. So I start back up my1200 calories diet. The late time I eat breakfast Broccoli 2 cup for lunch and I would have around 700 to 800 calories from dinner but I ate what ever I want up to 700 or 800 calories.this time I just eat bunch one cup oak meal with strawberries and blueberries one cup that all together 370 calories that leave me 830 calories for dinner to eat what ever I want.and I do a half hour of exercise and I still take one day out the week and holiday day to be off my diet . I put on a few pound but o still lost it back. I don't drink poop any more .all I know is I when from a 49 waist to a 47 waist and this the three week of my diet . I drink my coffee black. All I know is you need to give your self that one day to go off your diet a week and holiday. That way you want over eat missing food and you want over eat on your diet because you not taken it all from you . I eat the oak meal because it kept me full until dinner.

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There are a lot of replies so someone might have already said it but you are likely not tracking your calories properly and you're probably eating more than you think. Make sure to use a food scale and count everything including drinks, snacks, food taken from other people's plates, taste tests if you cook a lot, etc.



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Someone downthread said:

" I don't think it has to do with the fact that you are eating less. I think it has to do with what are you eating. Lots of sodium and carbs your going to hang onto weight. I eat a baked potato maybe 2 times a month that is my starch. other then some bread and I go easy on that. You need good lean meats also fish. veggies and fruit"

I ate tons of carbs while I was losing weight. Very little animal protein, high proportions of rice, some bread and tortillas, a little pasta, lots of potatoes and other starchy vegetables. Lots of lentils and beans. I never watched sodium. I ate a lot of veggies of all kinds but very little fruit.

People have this tendency to think that whatever worked for them is THE way to go, but it's not true. I lost 1.5 pounds per week or more pretty much all the way to goal.

All you can do, is if one thing is not working, try something else. Other than the obvious (junk food is NOT your friend; you will be hungrier and have a harder time if you don't eat enough fat and protein), don't try to make it universal.

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Hey two pounds in a month is still progress! It is up to you whether this is cause for celebration, but I would celebrate. Life is too short to focus on the negative. Know that you are slowly and steadily becoming healthier and stronger.

I watch my calories and I pay attention to the calorie differential on the Sparks app. I try to have a calorie differential of 500-1000 calories per day. That really works for me and I typically lose 1-2 pounds per week. I also do cardio and strength training. The more muscle mass I have the quicker I lose weight.

This is the Sparks article that taught me about calorie differential.
http://www.sparkpeople.com/resource/nutrition_articles.asp?id=1940

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Give it time.When I started losing weight,it didn't show up in the scale right away.Water is responsible for most fluctuations of 2 or 3 pounds so I woudn`t reply on the scale too much.Take measurements and pay attention on how your clothes fit.

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I have no advice for you, but I just want to say thank you for posting this and soliciting the responses as I have found some great help here for myself! I have been having a hard time eating all that my nutrition tracker recommends, but now I can see that it is important to keep my metabolism going strong.

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I eat 1200 to 1600 calories a day. yesterday I had 1600 day before that I had 1200. I work out 7 days a week by walking only. lift weights with lots of reps 2 days a week. Drink lots and lots of water though out the day and nothing else. no soda. I loose weight. I don't think it has to do with the fact that you are eating less. I think it has to do with what are you eating. Lots of sodium and carbs your going to hang onto weight. I eat a baked potato maybe 2 times a month that is my starch. other then some bread and I go easy on that. You need good lean meats also fish. veggies and fruit. I believe you have to give your body something to do like a walk everyday. walking at work does not count as working out. Something you did on a daily basis before you started loosing weight is not exercise your body is used to that. Muscle weighs more then fat so when lifting weights your body needs time to catch up on the scale for weight. go more by how your clothes fit. Getting looser?

Don`t worry about yesterday for it is gone. Don`t worry about tomorrow for it is not here yet. Do for today what you need.
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Exactly the same for me..... It has taken me about 4 months to loose 15 pounds. On 1200 calorie day diet. ( i logged all my food)... I work out at least 5 times a week, cardio and strenth training. and a tabita class that does both... and this last two weeks of doing the same.... I have not lost a pound.. Seriously.... Bad enought loosing just 1 pound a week if that... being dedicaed.. let along NONE.
Im 200 now 48 years old, so it isn't that I don't have weight to loose, at my weight i would think the 1200 calories , and exercise i would drop weight way faster.... very very frustrated.

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I think youve misunderstood my question.

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Anorexics eat too little. People starving in famine-plagued countries eat too little.

If you're eating fewer calories than your body expends, and not losing weight, then something is wrong. See your doctor. If it's not happening as fast as you want, then see your doctor anyway, just to chat about the whole calorie in/ calorie out thing! Might end up getting a referral to a registered dietician!

A friend of mine was losing weight - and had chronic diarrhea. It's not something she was bringing up in casual conversation, but it turned out her calories weren't staying in her body all that long.

A doctor or a registered dietician may want to see your food logs of foods you measured and ate. That's always helpful. They have to trust your word that those are accurate, and if the results don't match what would be expected, then another referral - maybe to an endocrinologist - or some diagnostic tests wouldn't be surprising.

The person who posted the question had been to a 'medical weight loss center' and had the same problem - and you would assume there would be medical supervision in a 'medical' weight loss center. Without knowing the place, I'm guessing it was not a metabolic ward and food was not measured before the clients ate it, and the environment was not restricted so they didn't have access to other foods. Then, they are limited in what they can KNOW about the diet of a client. Can a doctor in such a clinic give a referral? I hope such a doctor would, but maybe lacking access to a client's medical history is limiting.

Your personal physician, who has your medical history, or at least access to those records, is the the go-to guy or woman. Lately, I've noticed I have to sign a form that allows one professional to get records from another - a lot - while changing to a new family doctor.

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Oops, pardon me. I meant eat too little.

Let me try that again.

If weight loss is all about calories in/calories out how could it be possible to eat too little?


From a health standpoint it's not good because you would be low in nutrients. But from simply a weight loss standpoint the lower the calories, the higher the weight loss.

So in a thread like this where people are eating a very low calorie diet and not losing weight it really makes me question whether it really is all about calories in/calories out like is repeated on so many threads on Spark.



Edited by: JUSTEATREALFOOD at: 11/16/2014 (19:21)
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I'm not a doctor or dietitian. I'm just a real whole foods nutrition nerd.

I eat mostly vegetables, fats, meats, some fruit and dark chocolate. Unprocessed and preservative free food. And it's changed my life!

5'4"
Goal weight 125lbs
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I'm not sure what "eat too much" means. I vaguely recall eating until I puked once - and I recall drinking until I puked. I think in both cases, I reached my 'too much' threshold. Just goes to show you what a dumb 20-something will do on a dare....

Luckily, my kids don't read this message board. I think.





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If weight loss is all about calories in/calories out how could it be possible to eat too much?

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I'm a Certified Personal Trainer.

I'm not a doctor or dietitian. I'm just a real whole foods nutrition nerd.

I eat mostly vegetables, fats, meats, some fruit and dark chocolate. Unprocessed and preservative free food. And it's changed my life!

5'4"
Goal weight 125lbs
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Threads like these make me think 'There's nothing new under the sun.'

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Threads like these really make me question the calories in/calories out theory.

JERF - Just Eat Real Food

I'm a Certified Personal Trainer.

I'm not a doctor or dietitian. I'm just a real whole foods nutrition nerd.

I eat mostly vegetables, fats, meats, some fruit and dark chocolate. Unprocessed and preservative free food. And it's changed my life!

5'4"
Goal weight 125lbs
38 years old
2 kids

Lowering my A1C and keeping my blood sugar levels steady eating LCHF.


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Perhaps your body is telling you that you're not providing it with enough fuel.
Also, be careful of how you're measuring how many calories you're burning via exercise, it's very difficult to determine this accurately because so many factors are involved.

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Wow, I'm having a similar experience. I've been tracking meticulously again for two weeks now. I'm 48 and weigh 190. I have eaten 1200-1300 a day, and burned about 1500-2000 calories each week through exercise. Haven't lost a thing and I'm not sure what to do at this point. Please let me know if you figure out what works for you.



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YOU ARE NOT EATING ENOUGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1200 calorie one size fits all eating approaches are not the way to go.

Your best course of action is to find out what works for YOU with YOUR activity levels. Eat ENOUGH or else your body's metabolism will downregulate. Your body will not lose weight it will hang on to everything that you eat because it will revert to starvation mode.

The best way to do it is to figure your TDEE and for weight loss subtract 500 calories from that for a HEALTHY and SUSTAINABLE weight loss that includes a wide variety of foods. Emphasize fruits, veggies, protein. Don't fit yourself into a 1200 mentality.

This is an excellent link for a good calorie calculator www.health-calc.com/diet/energy-expenditur
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For three weeks I've been (almost) keeping it to between 1200-1500 calories a day, with a balanced diet that includes complex carbs, and I've also increased my exercise by burning a minimum of 500 calories a day running, rowing, and strength training. And I've had a couple weekends in there that I've totally dropped the diet, with wine and restaurant meals.

I've lost 7 pounds which is great and on target, but every couple of days or so it pops up and down. I've just learned not to panic about the number on the scale - measurements are a far greater indication of how you're doing.

And just to add a little backup for CLARISSA, and a bit of balance to the debate about what your body does in "starvation mode" here is what the Sparkpeople experts say, and below it the Mayo Clinic - so DEANSDAD, perhaps direct your disproportionate invective towards those trusted experts and other nutritional experts who say similar things, or (google "starvation mode" and you'll see the basic notion that Clarissa seemed to be referring to:

FROM SPARKPEOPLE
Strange as it sounds, going too low on calories can hurt your ability to lose weight. Here's why.

Your body is designed to protect itself from starvation during times of greatly-reduced food availability. So when you eat too little, your body thinks it's starving. To compensate, your metabolism will slow down considerably, making it very difficult (or impossible) for you to lose weight.

Eating too little poses other problems as well, such as nutritional deficiencies. On top of that, if you later increase your calories after a long bout of eating too few, your body will be more likely to store these calories as fat, in preparation for another future "famine."

Your best bet is to aim for a slow weight loss of 1-2 pounds per week by combining a moderate calorie reduction with increased calorie expenditure through exercise. If all the info you entered during your program set-up is accurate, the recommended calorie range you received should be what you need to accomplish this healthy rate of weight loss.

FROM THE MAYO CLINIC:
A healthy approach to weight loss does not mean going on a strict, severe restricting diet geared toward rapid weight loss, according to the American Dietetic Association. In fact, severe calorie restriction and/or and eliminating whole foods groups, such as carbohydrates, from a diet is a set up for problems. Weight loss diets that profess these types of eating patterns can deprive a dieter of nutrients and restrict calories to the point of putting the body into starvation mode. This can result in a slower metabolism and rebound weight gain.

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I am on 1200 calories daily and lose on average 1.05 lb weekly. Started 8 weeks ago and have lost 14 lbs so far. Try lifting weights excercises and eat lean and healthy foods. Good luck..

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Clarissa posted:

"You may need more food. If the body thinks it's starving it will hold on to whatever it needs to maintain."

There is no "nice" way to say it - your statement is FLAT OUT WRONG - a "myth", factually INCORRECT "common wisdom", "old wives tale", and flies in the face of virtually EVERY, legitimate clinical study - not to mention the simple "laws" of physics and the first law of Thermodynamics.

One can "choose" to ignore science and "believe" whatever it is they "want" to believe but blind "faith" doesn't change fiction to fact. As the saying goes "you have a right to your own opinion - NOT to your own "facts".

Why so many feel the need to perpetuate myth remains a mystery to me.

Is it a desire to be "accepted" by adopting the "company line"?
An inherent (but learned) distrust of Science?
An unwillingness to do even the minimal amount of actual "research" necessary to learn the facts?
Or just plain "herd mentality"?

Believe what you like but PLEASE STOP spreading factually INCORRECT information to those who come seeking knowledge.

It really is no more complicated than CICO.

If Calories IN EXCEED Calories OUT, you (and anyone else) WILL GAIN WEIGHT - period. (anecdotal "evidence", notwithstanding.)



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You may need more food. If the body thinks it's starving it will hold on to whatever it needs to maintain. 1200 calories isn't very much food. I've done as little as 1000 calories a day but I never lost a significant amount of weight and I never kept it off long term. An active adult just needs more to function efficiently.

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I'm a little on the short side also (5'2") and no matter what I do, I've never lost more than 1-lb a week. That was when I was hyperfocused on every single bit, counting every grain of salt, exercising for overly long periods of time every day, and basically being a bit too intense. Backing up to a more reasonable level - still measuring and tracking, but not freaking out if a few extra grains of salt or sugar spill over the side of my measuring spoon into my food, and still exercising but not to the point of overdoing it or excluding my family time - I lose 0.5-lb a week despite my goal set for 2-lb a week.

I've tried heavy calorie restriction, low-carb (that was pure H*ll for me, definitely not a low-carb girl), WW, calorie cycling, and many more. Still, 0.5-lb is all my body seems to ever want to let go in the average week.

Get your labs run to make sure you have no underlying medical conditions and make sure your tracking habits are in order, but...you might just need to resign yourself to the fact that slow weight loss is how it's going to be for you.

Guess how I deal with it? Well, losing 0.5-lb a week on average is 2-lb a month. That's 24-lb a year. So, it's going to take me another 2 years to reach my goal. Looks like you're roughly the same. No big deal! Since this journey is all about setting ourselves up for a plan of living that we can continue until the end of our days...I'm living right now exactly how I'll be living when my magical goal number appears on the scale. So it's nothing to stress. Yeah, the pounds will come off a bit slower but there's nothing to be done about that, short of undergoing liposuction or something else drastic. I eat very close to maintenance calories and get most of my deficit through exercise, since that works as well as anything else for my weird body. When I reach maintenance, I'll just up my calories a bit to eat back what's burned through exercise so it won't be that big a change.

Oh! There's an up-side to slow weight loss! The slower you lose, the more likely your skin will shrink with the body beneath. Much of that is determined by your age and genetics, but by losing slowly, you should achieve the maximum elasticity your age and genes will allow. So, see? Not such a bad thing.

Focus on the habits rather than how much it poots that it'll take us longer to get in the dream bodies in our minds. We'll get there eventually, but look at it like a journey rather than a final goal to achieve. That's what gets me through the day, at least!

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Mini-goal: 24.9 BMI (about 136 lb)
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Ditto Genie72's remarks below. The "starvation mode" explanation for weight loss just doesn't hold water. No anorexic would ever get down to 68 pounds if a couple of weeks of low calorie eating had this effect. More likely you need to up your activity level to create a calorie deficit AND really carefully track you food. Are you weighing and measuring portions? It is very, very easy to be eating 500-600 calories more than you think you are. I know this well, since when I'm careful I quickly realize how I consistently underestimate what I'm actually eating.



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We almost all get the 1200-1500 calorie range. It probably has to do with insurance liability or something, just guessing. But no one on SP gets a range lower than this.

Unfortunately, with dieting one size can't fit all. The painful truth is that some of us have been dieting for so long that we don't have a normal metabolism. But as a general rule the most it will decline is about 15%, and it immediately ramps back up when you start eating normal again. that's why you diet for a week to lose a pound, cheat one time and gain it back.

The second truth is that to lose a pound a week you have to reduce your basal calories by 500 per day (3500 divided by 7).

As for the starvation myth - it is a myth. It just doesn't exist. Your body will never stop burning fuel for energy - be it calories you eat or fat you have stored. Let me repeat that - your body NEVER stops burning fuel for energy. Consider anorexics, gastric bypass patients, prisoners of war - none of them maintained or gained weight on reduced calories. Even WW has an article on this (Weight Watchers Starvation Myth). Do your own research on the starvation mode myth.

If you aren't losing weight, it might be a medical problem, or you're not being honest when you calculate your calorie intake or you take a cheat day/meal. But it's not because you aren't eating enough. Your body physically can not manufacture fat out of thin air - it needs calories to do that.

Here we go - I'm expecting to get a ton of messages telling me how wrong I am. But before you write out your critique - do your research into the Starvation Mode Myth.

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Wow. I'm so glad I found this board. I've been eating between 1200-1300 calories a day, run about 10 miles a week and in 3 months I've lost 2 lbs. I'm 51 and weight 218. I cried this morning after my weekly weigh in. I've just joined SP a couple weeks ago and I've been tracking my food. I'm thinking maybe I am starving my body. I'm going to try to increase my caloric intake (healthy) a bit and see if that might spark something. Thanks for all the super posts. emoticon

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I lost 40 lbs eating around 1200 calories a day. Now, I've gained most of it back and my metabolism is lower than that of a turtle. I am eating around 1600 a day and focusing on increasing my activity. I'm not even looking at the scale this time. I am focusing on healthy eating (around 1500/day) and activity to increase my metabolism to normal.

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