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9/1/14 11:06 P

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I've not done WW, but SP works for me.

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8/31/14 9:36 P

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I will be doing the same I getting bore with point counting at weight watchers I am going to track here and still go to the meeting. emoticon

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2/9/14 10:08 P

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Over the past couple of months, I've realized that I love Weight Watcher's meetings, but I don't like the plan itself.

I'm currently on a 3 months at 50% off deal for the monthly pass, and in March, I'm going to resign up with a 6 month deal. That way, I'll have meetings paid through September. Meanwhile, I'm going to keep tracking on here.

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2/9/14 4:17 P

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I have no doubt that they get a commission from the products they sell that are available at meetings, usually at a table or shelf in the room. However, you can buy most (probably all) WW food products in the supermarket. They give out samples at the meetings, those that I've tried have been fine - but they are low in calories. I usually just stash the sample in my purse and eat it when I'm hungry while driving!

They tell you what the snack is and how many points plus it is (which is basically a calorie count modified to reflect fiber, fats, etc. in figuring out the value). I have never heard a hard sell.

If WW makes money via food products, it would be the frozen meals they have in supermarket freezers. Some of these are excellent. I have even seen a WW tuna salad sandwich packaged fresh at a deli counter, and it was delicious, like my mom would make when I was kid. I have looked for this and not found it again at my local supermarket (I saw it in a supermarket in a neighboring town).

Edited by: ALGEBRAGIRL at: 2/9/2014 (16:19)
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2/9/14 3:37 P

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They get a commission for products they sell. I found after eating some of their snacks it made me ravenous and wanting more so I stopped buying certain things that had that effect.

Isn't it funny how all of a sudden you can look down at your stomach and wonder to yourself, "Who put that there"?


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11/26/13 12:15 P

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Before points plus, there were just plain points. They gave you a little slide rule thingy that lined up a few things (fiber, for example) and then you read the resulting points. It was extremely easy to use because the information required was basic nutritional information.

You can still use that little slider rule thingy (whatever it's called), use the old plan with your old limit - WW is about support, motivation and problem-solving. Spark people offers the same, without a points system (which is essentially calories) but just doesn't have flesh and blood scheduled meetings like WW does.

There are some people at WW meetings who even like the old 'here's a list of what you can eat every day' type diet that WW started with. You counted servings. Some people still like that and WW leaders will say, 'fine, whatever you find easiest.' If you have that old list around, go for it. The very old list-type diet still works. It was/is balanced. People lost weight and still do lose weight on it. What has changed for WW, in my opinion, is the emphasis on exercise (walking is quite popular - my area has organized walks) and distilling the calories into points with emphasis shifted to vegetables and fruits.

WW has great cookbooks. Gotta say - look for them at local library book sales or get used copies on amazon. I like cookbooks that have just a few ingredients or vegetarian cookbooks. Then there are quick-cooking cookbooks and cook ahead cookbooks. WW has been around a long time. Lotsa cookbooks.



Edited by: ALGEBRAGIRL at: 11/26/2013 (12:16)
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11/26/13 7:53 A

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Why does everything have to this VS. that? Why can't look at the healthy aspects of WW, and SP, and fit these healthy aspects of BOTH diets into our lives?

Edited by: RUSSELL_40 at: 11/26/2013 (07:54)
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11/26/13 7:38 A

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I was a member of WW for two years. I did lose; however, I regained every pound. I got extremely tired of counting points. If the points weren't listed, you had to calculate each item.In addition, many of the foods I would attempt to locate online for the points plus value were not listed. I have found that SparkPeople has everything listed. The message boards are friendlier and it is free! This website seems to have much more than the WW website. I'm sticking with SP!

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11/25/13 4:17 P

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I have also done WW quite a few times. Last time (a few months ago) I coudn't stick with it, got discouraged, and gained about 10 pounds.

I like SP better, so far anyway, because I love the message boards, community, and articles.

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11/25/13 3:50 P

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I like the WW tracking online. I usually end up making 'meals' that I use over and over again. The downfall of the current Points Plus system, I think, is not the free vegetables and fruits. Those are great. It's that the things that are NOT fruits and vegetables in a lot of cases have gone up in points values. This can be daunting.

The idea is to encourage people to eat more fruits and vegetables. Fine. It's REALLY hard to get that to happen. Just judging from my own household, I can look into the refrigerator and find exactly 3 fresh vegetable items. Everything else is leftovers, bottled items, dairy stuff, The fresh Brussels Sprouts will keep for quite a bit longer than the bagged lettuce that was so expensive and that my husband tries to stretch into two days. The second day, that lettuce really looks the worse for wear. Then he has some 'fresh' beets that came in a package - he can't buy the raw beets and peel, cook and store them, too messy and too expensive. If you're going to buy something pricey, at least use a coupon and get the convenience plus a lower price - that's his method of shopping.

To really enjoy the fresh clean taste of the 'free vegetables and fruits' bonus WW gives you, I'd have to go to the supermarket daily and buy enough so I'm not dealing with food rot. I'd have to throw out all those condiments - I can do that, but my husband would take some convincing. I'd have to make my entree simpler and really load up on those lovely fresh veggies (hey, a nice big freezer would help for plain frozen vegetables on sale - I don't have a freezer!)

The intent of WW is great. It's healthy great stuff. They lay it all out for you. But putting it into practice is another thing.

P.S. Of course my husband can buy the raw beets and clean and cook them. But he's just not gonna!

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11/25/13 3:38 P

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I recently did WW Online as well and had a little success with it, but I'm switching to Sparkpeople because this is free and from what I've seen so far the software is much better.

I think WW making fruits and vegetables "free" is a really bad idea because if people by and large had "common sense" and could just use portion control then they wouldn't need to quantify their food by points and wouldn't have to be on WW in the first place. Maybe this worked for some people but I've noticed a lot of people on the WW boards and just in doing searches on Google complaining about how the latest version of WW "gives them too many points" and they aren't losing weight. I suspect many of them are gaming the system by over-eating on bananas and things like that. I know I had to watch out for that myself.



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6/25/13 6:32 P

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I have done WW several times before and did lose weight. However emoticon because of the community and support, that is something that I never felt at WW. They say that they support you, but I have never felt support like I do from my spark friends. emoticon

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6/25/13 11:55 A

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Thanks LDHAWKE. I posted a couple of times in the WW forums -- never again. Meanies there. Lol

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I have done Weight Watchers several times - and hands down, I like the Spark plan much better! I love that I can do it online, read all the articles and get support from other friends. emoticon

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Kim, go to the Recipe Review Board. We are a heck of lot friendlier than folks on those other boards.



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6/25/13 12:31 A

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I joined WW a few weeks ago and have lost 4 lbs. I am enjoying counting points rather than calories. I tracked on My Fitness Pal for two months before WW and never lost an ounce.

But I will say that the community here is MUCH friendlier than the one at WW's. I find those boards to be sometimes downright hostile! :-O

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6/5/13 6:35 P

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That is what I have told my sister but she has always said that she doesn't eat enough for it to count.

To my mine, lets say a pear is 40 cals and a an orange it is another 40. Add to this a salad of 125 you are talking of over 200 cals. Free with WW but 200 cals with SP



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6/5/13 6:24 P

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When WW announced that fruit was free, it turned into a free-for-all!

Fruit is free up to a point and each individual has to control that point.

If you find that you are gaining weight during weeks you gorge yourself on fruit, thinking it is free, then you need to start to record your fruit intake. You are eating too much fruit.

If you are losing weight while eating fruit that you are not recording then kudos to you! You are doing the right thing.

Weight Watchers claim that "fruit is free" is not a "free for all."

Use your common sense and monitor what you are eating on a daily basis.



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6/5/13 6:18 P

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I have not tried it myself but I know a few who have. Most don't seem to stick to it and put the weigh back on. My sister is with WW and is now having trouble loosing any weight at all and she is sticking to her points.

I don't believe that she get the support that I have on SP. I am not say that is true but the way that is seems to me.

I am lucky as I am at my goal with all the help I got every day on SP.


How can you know that you can't unless you have tried and failed.

Join the 10 minute challenge and get exercising.

See what you are made of by joining the 100 day challenge.

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I think making fruit unlimited on WW is dangerous. I like that spark counts all calories. That's really what works best for me.

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6/5/13 8:37 A

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weight watcher works but find the points annoying
cuves works as does jenny craig
nutrisystem for me and going to stop 17 pounds but not moving anymore
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6/4/13 2:09 P

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If you follow the program, Weight Watchers obviously works -- it has worked for me in the past. But what I found most inconvenient was always calculating points. I like the SparkPeople approach of tracking calories/fat/carbs/protein, etc. and staying within those guidelines. It's easy for me to pick something up off the grocery shelf or out of the pantry and decide if it's something that fits into my "diet" for the day. I use "diet" because I don't see either WW or SparkPeople being diets, but more lifestyle changes. No matter what path you choose, you have to be committed to healthy living, eating a sensible, balanced diet, and exercising more.

Plus, I didn't see the sense in paying the WW Online fees when I get everything that I need to be successful on the SparkPeople website, or the iPhone and iPad apps.

Just my two cents. :D





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6/4/13 9:48 A

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I have done WW a few different times and for it just did not work out. I have type 1 diabetes and between counting points, counting carbs, and doing my insulin the numbers just got to be too much. I have found that just by counting calories here on SP and inputting it into the calorie tracker I get an accurate number of carbs making my life a lot easier. I also didn't feel as supported in the group meetings as I do here. I can check in on a daily basis here. WW it was basically just once a week. Everyone has their own way of doing things, but SP just works much better for me.

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6/4/13 9:24 A

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I joined WW last month. So far so good. 3.2kg in 3 weeks is not too bad. Find the program easy enough. Much better than a previous weight loss programme where I had to weigh each and every bite. So I am not able to make a valid comparison. But I see a bubbling community here with SparkPeople and WW does not have that. Whatever we do that works for us is fantastic. I like being with like minded people. And no matter the program that I follow I hope I can find the support of others and implement good ideas and habits from here. It all starts with the mind. And when it is in order I know the weight will drop off. emoticon

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5/30/13 9:17 P

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Weight watchers is my old standby. I enjoy the meetings and the ease of counting points and tracking on their system. I find the nutrition tracker here very cumbersome. I think if I spent the time putting in my favorites, I could get used to it but I prefer the WW tracker and point system to calorie counting. I also use the activelink. It costs $5 per month but it has been very motivating for me.

I like this site because the message boards and support is incredible. I can get great recipes and fitness tips and while the ww site has those things as well, I tend to spend more time with the online community here.



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I have been a WW member since Jan 2013 and have lost about 23 lbs. Unfortunately, I cannot continue paying, so I am on my last month. So I decided to join Sparkpeople. I believe that any program you do will work as long as you are focused and consistent with tracking what you eat and exercise. Good luck to you. I will see how this will work out for me, I need to lose another 14 lbs and am willing work hard to do it. Lets see.


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5/24/13 10:13 A

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WW just uses points instead of calories. If you take one day of what you eat to get your points, and input them into your SP tracker, how close do you get to your ranges. My guess is pretty close. You have to eat a certain amount to lose weight, and no matter how you track it, it is the same amount of calories. Just because you use points does not mean that you aren't still eating in a range.

The only difference is that you are paying to count points, instead of calories. If you have been on WW for any amount of time, you have a set of daily meal plans that you eat. Let's say you have 14. Write them down, check if they are close to SP, and if so, just use each meal plan once every 2 weeks, and you won't need to be on WW, unless you want to pay for it.

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5/24/13 8:26 A

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I've done both, but I like Sparkpeople better because it allows me to easily track vitamins, nutrients, and minerals (esp sodium, iron, etc). SP helps me to make healthy food choices because I can see how many carbs, fat are in each item before I eat it.

Also, I like the message boards better on SP.

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I love spark, especially since its free. but it's what works best for the individual.

Your encouragement is greatly appreciated!


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This is a really interesting thread! I have been with WW for just over three months, lost 12 kilos (2 stone, 28 lbs), but am now starting to struggle. So Sparkpeople here I come, and I shall do both approaches until the summer to meet my goal weight. I do find the WW weekly weigh-in a good discipline, and I have a good course leader and nice group But I think I need to pay more attention to protein levels, and the SP website and members seem very supportive. Best of luck to all on this thread.


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Any food plan can work with Spark People, maybe it does not have to be a competition, maybe it does. Spark includes alot, a food plan is just a portion of it, well maybe a double portion!

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I CAN ADMIT IT I DO USE WW ALSO, BUT I LOVE SP ALOT BETTER. FOR ONE I LIKE TO KNOW MY CAL, CARBS, ESPECIALLY FATS IN FOODS. I LIKE SEEING HOW MANY CALS I BURN AFTER EXCERCISING AND THE SUPPORT I CAN GET ANY TIME DAY AND NIGHT. WW IS TO EXPENSIVE FOR WHAT THEY PROVIDE.

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WW points system just didn't work for me. Fruits and veggies have calories and should be counted or you could eat hundreds more calories per day/week than you should to lose weight. I also don't like being sold something every time I walk through the door.

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I was a member of WW for a very long time, lost 50lbs but I left because of the COST and how bored I was with the program(s). I was getting frustrated because I NEVER really knew about how many cals, carbs, fat and I was consuming with the WW program. I read about SP in our local newspaper. I have been a member of SP for 2 years and I AM NEVER BORED, I am FINALLY learning about my carbs, cals, fat and love the fact that SP has a plethora of information on this website. I LOVE SP far more than WW. I have turned tons of my friends onto SP. One thing my friends ask, well how much is SP,I tell them that it is FREE and they don't believe me until they come to the site. They are also amazed at how much information, guidance there is here vs. WW. Personally, I think SP is FAR BETTER than WW. SP has such an amazing amount of info on their site and it truly teaches you! I love the fact that I get a pie chart showing me where I have eaten the most of my food carbs, fat, cal etc. Having that report has taught me so much more. Yes, I know it is about food choices but sometimes, you don't realize that what you think is good could also be higher in certain areas than you would like them to be. There are many plan for many types of people. You truly have to find what works best for YOU! This is YOUR journey NOT someone else's. So what may work for your friend, family member or co-worker may not necessarily work for you. But I feel that SP is truly the total package. I still keep track of my food online as well as a manual food journal. I also keep track of my fitness online as well as manually but everything is now thru SP.

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As a vegan, I have a different perspective on WW as well. While they do promote lots of whole grains, fruits & vegetables, they still have that pesky dairy requirement. Also, I'm rather outnumbered in the meetings and get bored listening to people share the latest, greatest meat or dessert recipe. Again, not the fault of WW, still think it's a good program and do-able for anyone even w/dietary restrictions, just not for me at this point in my life.



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I think it's a personal decision. My mom loves WW and is a lifetime member. She had great success with the program. I did Spark for a few years, then decided to try WW and found it didn't work- I lost some weight mostly because I was focusing, not because of their techniques. The meetings didn't do anything for me- after years of Spark I knew everything they were talking about already and what's the point in paying for a web membership when Spark is free?

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Different things work for different people at different times imho. I am following a Paleo food plan and enjoying Spark People a lot!

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I have a strong preference for SparkPeople!

When I went to WW a couple of years ago, I found the meetings very annoying rather than inspiring (mainly because of the overly-perky leader who grated on my last nerve). It also felt like a sales pitch every week as they pushed their product of the week, which wasn't cheap (even "on sale") and was yet another form of processed food.

What I love about SparkPeople is 1) it's free (which still amazes me!); 2) there are so many resources! I feel like I'm learning something new every day; 3) We are eating REAL, non-processed food. I like that because I can do this for life. It's a sustainable approach to eating and cooking; 4) the recipe database has so many new ideas; and 5) the community is very supportive, yet real. And I guess I could go on and on, but those are the main reasons. There's no way that I'd give WW another dime when SP is working so well. I am a fan!

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As an on-again/off-again WW subscriber, this post helped me make the decision to leave for good. Nothing against the program, but I'm not losing weight and suspect the free fruits/veggies may have something to do with it, as well as, frankly, boredom. I'm going to commit to SP and see how it goes. I've never done a calorie-counting diet so I'm a bit nervous, am glad you're all here to offer support!



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I'm a lifetime 'WW member, but was really disillusioned after trying the at home program. It was supposed to include a years subscription to their magazine, which was going to be my at home "leader", and it never came, even after I called them about it. Now I combine TOPS and Spark People and have lost 25 pounds. It's been slow, but it's been steady. And it's a whole lot cheaper than WW, and much less fiddly. It's just a matter of finding what works for ones self , for some its WW, for some its Spark People. And then sticking with it.

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I used to do WW. In fact, did it for 2 years and lost 25 pounds. HOWEVER, once I got in the Less to Lose category (only 5-10 pounds to lose), their P+ program stopped working for me. And let me tell you - I am diligent and dedicated. I weight and track everything. I am a clean eater (lots of fruits and veggies). In my opinion, there is something wrong with their points calculation and the program just doesn't work as well for many women with only a few pounds to go.

So I made the switch to Sparkpeople and lost the rest of the weight that I wanted to lose within 3 months. Never looked back!

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Honeylissabee - you may have written this a while ago, but I hope you read this.

I remember you from WW. I remember your posts on the message boards. And, here's the thing. Any program will work when you finally embrace it. You know exactly what I'm talking about. ;)

I truly hope you find what works for you and lose the weight.

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I did WW in the past. I used it to lose weight after my daughter. Now I'm losing weight after my son (a whole lot because gestational diabetes left me with a massive gain)... and I prefer SP. The adjustment is taking some time, but I'm finding I like SP better. It makes me more accountable, more aware, and I feel for me personally - I feel like I'm more part of the real world. Yes I'm still measuring, counting, etc - but I'm not trying to figure out points.

I still eat my avocado, apples, carrots etc - but I do track them, and I don't mind when I see the calories or fat because I know like with avocados - thats a healthy fat.

The other benefits... SP is free, the community is WAY more supportive than WW was for me, it's always there for me... even at 2 am LOL if I find I'm crashing and need support ASAP (thank you panic button forum), and they have SO much more to offer. THe articles, the community, the trackers, the advice, the cookbooks - and its not centered on me buying their food. It's just about me... my weight loss journey, and my success.

I feel like where WW is sort of cookie cutter in their basic approach, spark people is like... Nikki People LOL It's tailored to me, my needs, my wants, and I just find that I'm actually more excited going this route too.

But for you, you can do both WW and SP... or if you only want one, why not try and back off of WW a little bit each week and see if you can adapt to the SP ways :)

Good Luck to you either way!!

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I signed up for WW online last year paid for 9 months and left because I never used it. SP is free and I love it! I'm motivated to stay on and love all the tools that are available.

Your encouragement is greatly appreciated!


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I would definitely choose SP over WW I love all the free exercise videos,the support from members,the recipes,and that you can do it without paying which allows me extra money so I can buy products that support SP,and help me in my quest to be healthier and more fit.



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I joined WW Jan 19th and started tracking on both SP and WW so I can track my main nutrients since WW doesn't do that. This is my 3rd time with WW, so I am very familiar with the program, but sweet candy canes it's expensive, which hit home when the pulled my monthly pass fee 17 days before my first month is up and taking over half of my grocery money. After begging them, they cancelled my membership and refunded me the money, which I was quite thankful for. So I decided to do 2 meetings a month on the Pay-as-you-go, but the receptionist told me that they charge me for missed meetings. I totally forgot about that. Ugh. So no money savings when I truly need it.

I am going to follow points on my own, use the old Core program the new points, use my journal and track on SP. Love it

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I do both. I started WW 10 years ago but stopped paying 5 years ago as it was expensive. I use their Points Plus system on my own weekly chart as it is easier for me to figure out much I should eat in a day. I still track my food on here and I think overall Sparkpeople has a better environment and has many more tools to help you reach your goal



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I lost 100 pounds, on WW, and gave them up because of (a) the bugs in their Flash implementation, (b) their abject refusal to give me credit for working around all their bugs, and inflexibilities, and finally (c) having to pay them all the dough, to boot.

I never read one darn thing on their web site, and just used their metric for keeping track of inputs.

My wife bought me a Weight Watchers Digital scale, when I started. The thing varies by up to five pounds in weighing from one minute to the next. Their cheese sticks suck compared to any other brand.

I joined SP, and have found their software and tracking more flexible, easier to use, and an absolute boon for tracking fitness.

I've continued to lose weight, here, and I take my hats off to all of you for participating in group health "therapy". emoticon

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I totally agree with BEECEE39. I also find that paying money is also a source of motivation. I don't want to lose my money. One thing not great about WW is the fact that their written information is high literacy and not user friendly.

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I have never done Weight Watchers because of how much it costs. I have been an on and off again SP person. Last May I decided to find something to help me monitor the calories I burn. I originally was going to get a heart rate monitor to track calories burned during Zumba class. (ok I bought and returned it, I never used it) I ended up finding body media fit. I got the one that also tracks your sleep and links to your smart phone. I bought mine for $160. The price has dropped since then. I think my friend just got the same one I did for $100 or $119. It is $6.95 a month to use it. They now have new options to make it cheaper if you buy long term. The fee is used to cover software updates.

It calculates your total burn for the day. The only drawback is wearing the armband everyday. Sometimes people ask questions. I have worn it out dancing with friends. Once you explain what it is people are like cool. The one drawback I had when I first purchased it was the lack of info for food and nutrition. You had to do alot of the legwork yourself. Finding the nutrional information and entering it in. Since May it has improved drastically.

When I use it and enter my food. I do fantastic at losing weight. You have a goal calorie burn for the day that is based off of your individual self. You also decide whether you want to move more or eat less to get your calorie deficit for the day. I have mine set for 1000 calorie deficit per day to get 2 lbs a week. You can do 250 500 750 what every you want up to 1000 deficit. So if you are moving a whole lot and need more food you know what the difference is.

They have recently made it to where it hooks up to spark people. It is a new incentive for me to move. All I have to do is click a button and it syncs up my exercise minutes and calories burned, tracks the number of steps I take daily and automatically puts it in SP. The next bonus is I love SP food tracker more. I can enter my food in SP. click a button and it automatically transfers the info to my body media fit. LOVE IT!

I know its not weight watchers vs SP. But it is my renewed love for tracking exercise and the dreaded tracking of food has now peaked my interest. Body media is the same company that makes body bugg. It is pretty neat to see how well you sleep too. If you have any questions feel free to send me a private message so I can quit rambling on here. :-)

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I am doing the weight watchers program, but cannot afford the online fees to use their site. I found a lot of free resources online and in the andriod market to help me to be successful. I agree that WW has forced me to think about more fruit and veggie choices, which is great for weight loss. One week in and I have lost 5lbs; which I think is a good start. I know I could have achieved similar results with Spark People tracking calories, fat etc... but I don't know that I would have started making the fruit and veggie choices. It would be awesome if Spark could add a points tracker for those wanting to use the WW points system and Spark for their tracker. Don't know the legality of it, but I see many people with websites that calculate and track points, so not sure it would be an issue. I personally find it easier to quickly punch in a points value (many products have them on the label) vs. logging all the nutritional info. Also not having to log fresh fruits and veggies at all saves me a lot of time.

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I have done WW online and was had some success with it, but I do find sparkpeople easier for tracking. I found on WW there were alot of foods that weren't listed and when I eat out or buying groceries I don't have to try and figure out points, calories, fat etc is clearly listed.
I also find the support on these boards and this site to be much better.
Good luck on your journey......



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I have done Sparkpeople off and on for several years. I regained what I lost due to life and stress, I guess, and was having trouble getting motivated to get back into tracking on Spark. Then I found out my work offered WW for free, so I thought it might be the change I needed. I've been doing WW Online for about 10 days now and have lost a couple of pounds. I have been tracking in both Spark and WW online tools during those 10 days, and this is what I find so far:

1. Compared to just tracking calories on Spark, the point system on WW does push you toward much more fruits and veggies and away from processed foods, white breads and pasta. Whole wheat options for bread and pasta are slightly lower point values, but still cost enough points to cause you to think twice about choosing them.

This is how the WW points system forces you to eat healthier: You have a set number of points per day, plus a weekly "oops" fund, I call it. Since all fresh fruit and most veggies are 0 points, it only takes a few days until you're finding ways to augment your diet with these foods so you stay within your target and avoid feeling hungry. Foods like white rice and white bread cost a relatively high number of points. When 2 slices of bread costs 5 of your 26 daily points, you start to find other options.

2. The extra "weekly allowance" points, or the "oops" fund, makes you feel less bad about having a bad day. One of my biggest problems when I was doing Spark was feeling really negative about days where I went over my calories. The WW plan builds in extra points for those who actually live in the real world and have a bad meal or two in a week. Perfect for perfectionists like me.

3. Staying within my WW daily point total puts me at the low end of the daily calorie range that Sparkpeople recommends for me for weight loss. And since I'm eating much healthier, I don't feel hungry while maintaining that calorie level. When I would shoot for the low end in Spark, I would often be hungry because I was snacking on things like pretzels or cereal. With WW, I now know that a serving of cereal and milk is 7 points, so I eat an apple instead.

4. With WW, you can bank "activity points" that you can "trade" for food if you feel hungry. I have found so far that I haven't needed to do that. I have been walking an hour a day every day. Walking 3.25 mph for an hour gives you 5 points. You have to use those points in the week that you earn them, however. You can't bank 600 activity points over 6 months and then eat your weight in ice cream. :-)t

5. The WW online tools are comparable to those on Spark, so I give equal grades for convenience. Both have web trackers and phone apps.




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Lol.

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I totally agree with TIMWATER - any diet program will work - but you do have to work it. I did WW years and years ago but today with counting points etc - I don't know if I have the patience to be consistent -so I probably would not work it. A lot of any program is trial and error and you just have to do your best - even if you make a plan of your own - make it realistic for YOU.



 
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Every diet program will work IF you have your mind set on it. If you aren't 100% in it for the long term, you will fail. You must be ok with making small goals each day which add up over the long term rather than expecting immediate results. emoticon

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Thanks everyone for your posts!!! I have been working on this and I love SparkPeople, but I wanted some Face to Face support so since my job offers WW, I joined. I searched to see if there were others that were doing both and found this group.

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Lol!

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Found this thread by searching WW and just wanted to drop in here. I do both. I like to track my food in Spark, because I am finding what calorie level will be good for me during maintenance, but I need face to face support as well as all the terrific support here. I can't say I would do WW right now if I were not a lifetime member so *free*, but I did join again when I was getting close to my goal weight this last time down. I regained from some major life issues, but remembered how to get help when I was ready to take it back off.
WW has probably the best program out there comparing the ones that charge money. Spark is invaluable, and provides pretty much everything WW does, but the face to face accountability is a necessity for me. Maintaining a 200 pound loss is a lifetime challenge, and I cannot ignore my need for support.

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Right on about the weight watchers! I lost weight thru WW ten years ago...became a lifetime member BUT..boy did I mess up.... No fault of WW.....and I did have to learn to not eat just anything as long as I did points...but to eat the good stuff as they encouraged ...WW is great!



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If you think Weight Watchers doesn't support a healthy lifestyle, you don't know anything about Weight Watchers. We have 9 Good Health Guidelines to meet each day, and one of them is exercise and they give us a number of servings of each food good to get before spending points on just anything.

The biggest mistake people make with Weight Watchers is thinking all you have to do is count your points and you can eat anything. That is not true because it does focus on healthy eating with occasional treats, exercise, and the reasons we eat inappropriately and how to overcome them.

I have been a lifetime member of Weight Watchers since 1977 having lost 214 pounds and maintaining it. The reason I'm back to lose more weight is I have severe osteoporosis and am now 3 inches shorter than I was back then.

I love the support and recipes and challenges here and I still attend Weight Watchers every week. They work well together.

This is Weight Watchers 50th year. Do you think they would still be in existence if the program didn't work?

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I have done both and have just restarted weight watchers. I always lose weight with that program. The points work for me and the new program that focuses on not only healthy food but also exercise and changing your habits and environment has been helpful to me. I enjoy sparkpeople because of the daily connection it gives to me. Like someone else said, I don't enjoy the weight watchers groups and message boards. I am not sure what it is, but it does not give me the motivation that sparkpeople does.

So, I like them both for very different reasons.



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I prefer SP... did WW and it was ok...but it's easier for me to keep track of my protein and the carbs and fat... I tended to lose out on protein with WW cuz I'd just count points.. didn't really see where I was messing up... and like you said... it's FREE!



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emoticon, and I have nothing negative to say about WW. SP is free, and the support you get here is amazing. I have people cheering me on, offering me challenges, and helping me out when I'm having a bad day. I did live (long i) WW for many years, but it was hard to continue with meetings, and the online support was not as great as SP's. I say if doing both is working for you, continue to do it, but if you can get by with just doing SP, you should. It will save you money. Either way, I wish you much success.

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WW does encourage exercise - big time! This is something that has come to the forefront at WW in recent years. At meetings (which are the same across the U.S., all meetings are on the same page, metaphorically speaking), there is emphasis on two things: Eat less, Move more. At meetings, there has been an organized Walk, and the WW pedometer is awesome, I'm sorry to say. I'm sorry to say that because I had already bought two pedometers by the time WW came up with their pedometer. It is waterproof and survives going though the wash with laundry, for example (although that racks up quite a few steps...), but the WW selling point is that you can upload the numbers every day so they show up on your online account, along with your points. This uploading- tracking- benefit costs something extra each month (the online WW is already part of my membership and I don't see the cost of it), which is a drawback, but people seem to love it. It's very motivating to them. If you build up a certain number of activity points in a day (it does take a lot, but that also is motivating), you can eat more points plus. Admittedly, you don't reap huge food rewards for walking a lot. But it does give you some incentive.

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Both WW and spark people are fairly good. However, I am not sure I like the point system too much. WW supports nothing more than weight loss, not a healthy lifestyle. Unlike with WW spark-people helps you understand the food you eat, the exercise you eat and gets you into the habit of living healthily. Even though I am already at a healthy weight I use sparkpeople to ensure that my lifestyle is healthy....



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At the end of the day, I think all programmes work because it's up to you to want to do it. I lost 20lbs on WW once. I also gained it back and I just never found the self-motivation to do it again. So I knew it was within me at the end of the day. I have to be responsible.

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I love Sparkpeople it has so much too offer, and the people who you enter act with are awesome. emoticon emoticon
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I don't like any weight management system that makes you pay continually. My feeling on this is that they have a vested interest in keeping you fat. If it worked really well, everyone got fit, they'd go out of business. I prefer Spark's community-based approach, even when I'm not actively using the trackers.

I love my brain, but I'll always be happy to expand my mind. So, why not love your body as it is and still be happy to improve it?


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I never loss more than 20lbs doing WW. I don't believe I was getting enough protein.




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Wow, that does sound like a very narrow range. Actually, I wish I had problems like that... dropping down to 132! Congratulations on reaching your goal.

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I just met my goal using WW. It has worked for me, but I focused on the healthy side of it. WW does offer a lot of healthy guidelines. My leader and people at our local meetings have been GREAT! If you work the whole program the way it was created it works.

Now, on the down side, I can't get on their message board hardly ever. Very discouraging and negative group of people. The other negative thing that I JUST FOUND OUT was that once you make goal weight you have to stay in a four pound range or you have to pay again to stay lifetime and use their website. This is even if you are within your goal range. So, I weight 135, but if I drop to 132 I have to pay again for six weeks and then I have to stay in a four pound goal range again. Serisously??? I am not living with that stress for the rest of my life.

So, does SP work for maintenance? I am thinking of changing over.

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11/28/12 1:16 P

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I'm doing both right now. I always get suckered back into Weight Watchers based on other people's results, but I've never consistently lost. Some days points just feel easier though. I'll probably cancel my WW membership after the first three months. We shall see!

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11/28/12 12:27 P

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11/28/12 10:30 A

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Hmm.

Edited by: WWREFUGEE1942 at: 1/10/2013 (06:01)

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11/28/12 9:38 A

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sparks all the way. love the community here.



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11/28/12 8:27 A

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I find them very similar. WW worked better for me I think since I was "accountable for my weight" and weighed in every week. I may go back and try that again since I've been yo-yoing since leaving ww.

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11/28/12 8:09 A

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I never could lose weight on Weight Watchers. I don't have enough patience to memorize points. I would prefer to learn about calories, carbohydrates, proteins and fats, as that's "real" information that will serve me for the rest of my life. The only two times in my life that I've successfully lost weight were both when I counted calories -- calories in, calories out. It's useful to memorize that, say, a medium apple has 80 calories. Weight Watcher's point systems -- eh, I don't have brain space for that. Just my opinion, I know it works well for others.

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11/28/12 7:17 A

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Lol. emoticon

Edited by: WWREFUGEE1942 at: 1/10/2013 (06:03)

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11/7/12 2:24 P

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I don't agree with weight watchers. I have tried weight watchers before and I don't agree with their points system. I don't feel the need to count anything I eat especially if its good for me. The weight watchers program lets you eat whatever you want and when I was on it I felt guilt, although I did lose the weight, it was water weight and not fat.



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11/7/12 12:12 A

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I have done both programs. I lost 50 pounds on old. Had a personal setback gained 40 back. New program I am gaining and losing the same 7 pounds. I am going back to the old program! That or count calories or both. Old habits die hard. I maintained the weight loss for five years on thevold program.

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11/3/12 8:46 A

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The best input comes from your group leader at the WW meeting. She (or he) can meet with you after the meeting and discuss what's holding you back from success. Succeeding is one motivating factor that keeps people on a diet or makes them want to return to a diet. Keeping the weight off - that's another story (WW is a great plan in that they stress maintenance and give support to people who've met their goal).

I've gone to WW for a long time and I see as many successes as struggles. Leaders encourage people to discuss how they succeeded (share stories, tips, etc.) so you learn a lot about how success can come about.

People are encouraged to share their struggles, too - there is almost always a good tip for dealing with a particular kind of problem. Nothing new under the sun, so to speak.

I have heard people say they can't deal with all the flexibility WW allows you. So my group leader (and other leaders) have said, 'Go back to the WW you liked, the one with a certain kind of menu for meals and a certain number of servings of meat, liver once a week, etc .' If it works for you fine. Continue to come to meetings for support when motivation seems low.

I have heard people say they can't deal with the points plus program. The old foods they eat now 'cost' more points (just a few more, but more) and it doesn't thrill them so much that the vegetables and fruits are free. OK, so use the slide rule thingy (they practically give those things away, they come with old WW books) and work with the 'old' points until you can see if that works for you. The group leader can help you with it. Continue to come to meetings for support.

I guess you've noticed that support ends up being important. If you don't like the meeting or group leader you've been going to, go at a different time for a different leader and group. Weighing in is the moment of truth for me. If I'm not doing well on the scale, the leader and meeting is very important... if I'm doing well on the scale, any WW meeting will do.

Good luck!

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11/1/12 3:10 P

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Hello...I just started Weight Watchers last month and I need some encouragment. I can't seem to stick with it. I recently got engaged and I want to lose about 40lbs for my wedding. Any advice?? Is everyone doing the Points Plus or the old points system??



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9/20/12 10:25 P

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Interesting conversation, thanks for all the information! I started Spark awhile back and I love it. I have always found that journaling made me accountable and diets like WW or JC kind of let someone else do the math for you. So that was a bit of a turn off for me. I did try WW years ago and lost about 20 pounds, so initially i was a huge fan. Of course, once i got off WW, the weight slowly creeped back up again. So i am loosing with Spark but sometimes it is painfully slow lol... but it is working. I have a runner friend who did WW and lost about 15 pounds (she was small to begin with and now looks fantastic) so it has been tempting to try it for a few months just to loose that last 10 or so pounds that i was hoping to be gone by now. But like others, my budget is tight and this community has been very nice. I love that this is free and am on it every day, even if i am not perfect at logging calories or working out, it is slowly working.

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9/5/12 7:45 A

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My girlfriend came out with her family last weekend and she had just joined Weight Watchers the month before. We had a great time around the fire, my girlfriend wanted a marshmallow around the fire and wondered how many points would be in a marshmallow and if it would fit into her plan. I enjoy of the freedom of simple math, how many calories is this and do I have enough left, the ease of my response with respect to if the marshmallow was an option to me had her Sparkling the next day. I too have joined weight watchers and had very little success with point calculations and finding the time to weigh in, my favorite calorie/meal planning weighing time of day is 5am. I enjoy the freedom of weighing planning and interacting with my fellow fading away group on my time table.

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I've just read all the comments posted to this thread and I want to take a moment to thank you all for some very thought-filled posts. Lots here to consider!!!





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9/4/12 11:54 P

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When the weight is no longer going down, one starts to dread the meetings which can be a deterrent.

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emoticon I think sparkpeople help you more with your struggles ww did not ..Some people matter at the meeting and somepeople don't , I say only a few matter...spark people offers help for everyone..


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9/4/12 4:45 P

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Definitely Spark for me! I found WW meetings very repetitious and commercial in quality. I also did not like the point system. I've always been a calorie counter so that's what I was comfortble with. The points system is so specific, the world just doesn't work on WW math. Additionally, it is now really important to me to track specific nutrients which of course Spark allows and WW never even covered (in my experience). I also like the variety of personalities and support here. :)



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9/4/12 3:13 P

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I've done both, but find that post-menopause the new WW points plan doesn't work well for me. I think the problem is that it's easy to wind up eating too many calories even within the points, since fruits are "free" and some fruits are very caloric (cherries and mangoes, to name two).

Much more importantly, the chipper WW group leaders drive me nuts (here's a terrific new product we've developed that you're just gonna love!), and the online community is quite judgmental. The message is usually "either do it our way or be fat. your choice."

I LOVE the SparkPeople community: people are helpful and positive without being judgmental or dogmatic. THANK YOU!

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I'm just trying Spark People for the first time. I've fallen out of love with Weight Watchers. I just find the tracking a bit annoying. I was also doing WW's online instead of meetings and I just wasn't finding a lot of support in their online community. In fact, some of the people on their boards can be just down right mean and nasty.

I like that Spark is free. Hopefully their program is easy to follow.

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