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With all due respect, I have a difficult time being willing to trust testimonials from people who stand to financially gain from something. If you're selling something, then you have no reason to disbelieve it doesn't work, or that it isn't safe. Quite the contrary, you have a literal vested interest in its success. This is doubly a concern for me when the person in question does not state up front who they are and what their conflict of interest may be when providing testimonials. If someone can show me reliable, properly constructed and peer-reviewed scientific evidence that something works, I'm happy to keep an open mind. Otherwise, I am NOT a guinea pig. I don't trust multi-level marketing companies, because they make most of their money off of their own reps, not their products. The problem with supplements like these is they don't have to tell you the truth about what's in them. They are unregulated by the FDA, and as such don't have to include how much of anything is where. They don't have to prove they're safe, that they work, or that they do anything they claim. Case in point: Homeopathic drops of any kind. They're little more than bottles of water! And yet, people pay top dollar for that water. I have seen no compelling evidence of any kind that these or any other over the counter supplement is capable of doing what it claims to do.
Edited by: DRAGONCHILDE at: 4/30/2013 (11:31)
Heather Writer, mom, runner (ish), and computer addict. Still trying to run my first 5k. I'm not pregnant, just fat: My blog. fatnotpregnant.blogspot.com/
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I have not had any side effects from it so far. I take it and sell it. The only reason I started selling it is because I love it so much, not just to make money. And it's NOT a miracle product. It is something to be supplemented with healthy diet and exercise. It just makes it easier to eat better and gives extra energy to exercise more. I don't ever recommend someone to just take something and sit on the couch all day and expect it to do anything for them. I'm also a nurse, have researched the ingredients, and they are all safe and healthy for you. I recommend ACE for anyone. I have never ever though any dietary supplements were worth anything until ACE, but there will always be people out there who will never give anything a try no matter what.
"Now faith is being sure of what we hope for, and certain of what we do not see." ~Hebrews 11:1
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I agree. "All natural" is not a good thing; it's not a bad thing,it's just a meaningless marketing term. "Natural" isn't synonymous with safe. Snake venom's about as natural as it gets, but you won't catch me drinking the stuff. ;) Many "natural", otherwise safe supplements have side effects, too; for example, St Johns Wort is natural, accepted as safe, with proven benefits. But take it with your blood pressure medication, and it can counteract it and leave you with dangerously high blood pressure. Marijuana is all natural, too, but it's quite illegal in the states. "All natural" is just a marketing term. and it's not a sign of something safer.
Heather Writer, mom, runner (ish), and computer addict. Still trying to run my first 5k. I'm not pregnant, just fat: My blog. fatnotpregnant.blogspot.com/
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I hate to be Debbie Downer, but ACE is just a way for someone to make money. Someone has researched things that they could pose as "natural" to make it sound good and mixed them up into a diet pill. ANYTHING that says on a label made from "natural ingredients" is pretty much a marketing lie. Example: "Natural" would mean rather than green tea extract added into pill form.. make some green tea from green tea leaves! THAT would give you way more of the benefits than from any pill. Because tea of any kind is good for you.. just don't load it with sugar. Make some green tea from green tea leaves and add a little lemon and/or honey.. drink that every day.. drink it with every meal if you want to.. and your body will be full of rich antioxidants. Antioxidants that help fight disease, high blood pressure, and increase your metabolism to result in aiding healthy weight loss. However, you cannot rely on ONE miracle solution for weight loss. It takes a healthy diet full of REAL food and exercise.
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There are side effects to pretty much everything on earth. Those are all natural substances, just like you could list the side effects of calcium pills or multivitamins. Side effects are listed on medications mostly to protect the company that makes it from being sued. They find every possible thing that could happen (Even if it's only a 0.01% chance) and list it on there. If you aren't finding anything about it when you search for it, it isn't common enough to find. Very rare.
"Now faith is being sure of what we hope for, and certain of what we do not see." ~Hebrews 11:1
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JKEYS20: Yes, there are potential side effects: - Phenylethylamine HCL: causes difficult breathing, an increase in heart rate and blood pressure, and tightness. - Pyridoxine: causes headache, sleepiness, tingling, loss of appetite, stomach pain, nausea, vomiting. - Chromium: causes headache - Vanadium: causes nausea, diarrhea, abdominal discomfort, loss of energy, low blood sugar, kidney damage
Heather Writer, mom, runner (ish), and computer addict. Still trying to run my first 5k. I'm not pregnant, just fat: My blog. fatnotpregnant.blogspot.com/
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Not a fan of diet supplements but to each his own
"Patience and perseverance have a magical effect before which difficulties disappear and obstacles vanish." - John Quincy Adams No matter how slow you go, you're still lapping everyone on the couch! Source: unknown
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This is the ingredients of ace...I thought I would share this... Vitamin B6 Caffeine- Natural source Chromium -as polynicotinate Cocoa powder (bean) Spirulina, green tea extract, (95% Polyphenos, 40% EGCG), 1,3 dimethylpentylamine HCI Trace mineral complex and phenylethlamine HCI Vanadium (chelate) Other ingredients: Gelatin Capsul, Cellulose, Magnesium Stearate, Silica, Stearic Acid.. Now, natural things what I have learned I was able to understand as this.. if you can understand and and read the ingredients.. and its less than 5.. its good.. Also natural ingredients must be in its natural form.. (Not taken or changed into a pill) If you can't read and don't understand these ingredients, your body won't be able to understand it either nor will it be able to process it correctly to digest things.. Now, maybe I need an education on things and if someone would like to teach me, I am more than willing to listen and learn if someone wants to explain these ingredients, but I can not understand nor even try to pronounce half of these ingredients listed in ace. Right now, I am only able to recognize maybe 3 ingredients of its natural form...
Edited by: JGIRL5799 at: 4/24/2013 (11:33)
Julie Live, Love, Laugh
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wow... I fully believe ANY pills/ shakes/ weight loss programs are scams It is to do one thing... make money for the makers and the promoters.. I have known 2 people now that have taken ace, and yes, they have lost weight, they had to stopped.. One has lost over 50lbs the other 35..BUT They both gained double their weight back.. I have lost over 50lbs and slowly still losing but at a healthy slower weight..with NO pills or shakes. when I first started I was heavily into protein powder shakes, BCAA and other sports pills...when I stopped those, I gained everything back plus some. The only TRUE weight loss is working out and nutrition (real food) period. yes, there are great herbs and supplements, personally, I will take natural herbs/ seeds that I can grow and take on my own..currently I have found chia seeds.. I found out how to grow them on my own and I am learning how to use the sprouts for when it grows into a plant... it has given me free energy, fills me up and has curved my appetite, it has plenty of fiber, protein and omega in it and many more things.. its natural and its a seed....my daughter has claimed it has helped her menstrual cramps even LOL. My daily intake on calories start at 1565 and go up to 2250 depending on my work outs for that day.. I eattttttt a lot but its whole natural food, no processed/gmo. If I have to put out $$$$$ for things and its way more than the normal budget can handle and if people promise quick fixes or if somethings on a time line you will loose this much or have this in that period of time, you can bet I will become very weary and turn away from it.. but that is my choice.. for those that take it and it works.. great as well.. Plus... all of those products are still processed foods... people are soo heavy on getting away from processed food that they always forget any pills/ shakes are nothing but processed chemicals and that still includes ace.. yes, ace may not have the "chemicals" that they say it does but never the less, it still was processed hence, having chemicals to produce that into a pill.. why not take things in natural form? Why put that in your body, it won't recognize but only jolt your body into shock .. sure it will behave, but one food for thought.... When you eat healthy with REAL food or herbs/ seeds that you can do for free on your own, its healthy, your body will respond to its natural state, when you add all those chemicals and processed foods, all it does is slow things down and ruin on how your organs react. What will you do when you find out by taking these processed pills you find out your organs are destroyed or diseased? I really wonder if this is thought of... People will do what they wish to no matter the discussions or advice and I respect all the answers that have been given... I have found this post and the responses very interesting, its amazing on the spectrum of where everyone stands.. most need to take in a few facts and must tread very carefully especially if someone has current health issues.. its very dangerous for cardiac (heart issues) patients, diabetic patients and if someone has liver disease or kidney diseases..... but this is my two cents on how I process and see it as. I wish everyone well no matter what .. processed pills/ shakes or not...
Edited by: JGIRL5799 at: 4/24/2013 (11:38)
Julie Live, Love, Laugh
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I've taken the A.C.E. product for energy and weight loss. It worked in the beginning but like many other products it quit helping with the weight loss. I'm now taking CHANGE. It contains caffeine, green coffee bean extract, garcinia cambogia, rasberry keytones and dark cocoa seed powder. Not only does it give me energy (I work a full time job and go to school full time) but I lost 13 pounds in 10 days and am still losing. I also have the energy to work out and have begun changing my eating habits.
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"Having said that-. I My daughter has used in since Christmas and has lost 30 pounds." And... I have NOT used this (or any) supplement, and have also lost 30 pounds since Christmas. The problem with saying "I took this supplement and lost X pounds" is, there's absolutely no way to correlate the loss to the taking of the supplement. I mean, I could look at any new habit I've picked up since Christmas and make it sound like a legitimate claim for the habit's role in my weight loss. For example: - I started eating kale once per week since Christmas, and lost 30 pounds! - I thought I'd try agave syrup in my tea. I bought my first bottle in January - and since then I've lost 30 pounds! - I changed my toothpaste brand 3 months ago, and today I'm 30 pounds lighter! Yes, I've done all of the above, and yes, I've lost 30 pounds. But I wouldn't go so far to say that kale, agave syrup and Colgate have played any role in the weight loss! It's a similar stretch of logic to suggest that caffeine supplements would, either.
Edited by: BUNNYKICKS at: 4/10/2013 (23:27)
Goal 1 - break 200 by my birthday (46 pounds lost by May 23, 2013)
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Everyone here on SP should know that your body fluctuates several pounds over the course of a day so you do need to factor that in when someone says they lost 4 pounds in 3 days. Having said that-. I My daughter has used in since Christmas and has lost 30 pounds. I have used it and it did help with energy and also in curbing my appetite for the first week or so. I just talked to my daughter and she said she takes 2 in the morning. I was trying to add another one in the afternoon but wouldn't always remember to. so I am going to try first thing in the morning with my protein green smoothie drink and then 2.5 hours later when I eat breakfast. What I liked most about this product is that it did curb my appetite but did not make me nauseated or jittery. I do want to add that I have HBP and I am on only waterpills. I was also on lisinopril but have lost enough weight I was able to get off of that. YEA. I have not noticed any difference my heart rate- I haven't taken it but haven't felt any different. I will go tomorrow and have it checked.
Edited by: CHARTHESTAR at: 4/10/2013 (21:01)
"Be the Change you want to see in the world!" Gandhi Become a RE! Rethink your actions so you reduce, reuse, and recycle to RESPECT OUR EARTH!
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I will continue to eat healthy and exercise. This is just a tool to help the process of reaching my goals. It doesn't mean it's not possible without it. Your body also naturally starts to have less of an appetite anyway when you eat less. But it's really hard to go from eating absolutely anything you want (and a lot of it) to eating smaller amounts of healthier food. It's not necessarily for everyone, but it sure has helped me to make the transition easier. Plus the extra energy is nice for really stressful 12 hour+ shifts at work without putting the crap from pop in my body.
"Now faith is being sure of what we hope for, and certain of what we do not see." ~Hebrews 11:1
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So, JENNALYNN044, I have a question for you: What will you do when you stop taking the pills, and no longer have an artificial supplement to suppress your appetite?
Heather Writer, mom, runner (ish), and computer addict. Still trying to run my first 5k. I'm not pregnant, just fat: My blog. fatnotpregnant.blogspot.com/
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I have been taking ACE for almost 3 weeks now. No, it is not a miracle pill. No, it is not a get skinny quick pill. No, it will not work if you don't change anything else about your lifestyle. It simply suppresses appetite and gives you more energy. I have been on SparkPeople for a few years now, so no, I'm not on here simply to promote the product. I am a nurse, and have done a lot of research on the ingredients. I highly recommend this product. It is super cheap compared to other supplements, ($1 per day--the same you would pay for a bottle of soda) and does what it says it does. I barely ever snack anymore, and when I do sit down to eat meals, I don't usually eat the quantity of food that I used to. It has also given me the energy to get through my workouts and my 12 hour shifts at work. It is not typically safe to lose more than an average of 2 pounds per week, not should you expect to. Anything quick like that will likely lead to gaining it all back. ACE is just a tool to help you along the way, it is not the solution. In these 3 weeks, I have lost almost 5 pounds and some inches. I love it so much I have started selling it as well. And it's a great company.
"Now faith is being sure of what we hope for, and certain of what we do not see." ~Hebrews 11:1
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All the "first post" comments on MLM diet supplements in this and other threads are just depressing. Most of them with generic usernames and no presence on the site other than to flog the supplement.
SW: 190+ 12/15/2012 CW: 153.5 GW: 150ish? We'll see when I get there. 5K 4/21/11: 31:55
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KOMOSGRL518: Do not take any supplements, especially over the counter supplements which have no peer-reviewed evidence of efficacy. You need to consult your doctor about any medication, OTC or not, you take, because of your medical condition. There are no shortcuts, no "get-thin-quick" pills. Focus instead on eating healthy and exercising. Sparkpeople does not support taking supplements for weight loss.
Heather Writer, mom, runner (ish), and computer addict. Still trying to run my first 5k. I'm not pregnant, just fat: My blog. fatnotpregnant.blogspot.com/
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Been considering trying ace but I don't know if it will be good for me. I have Wolff Parkinson's white syndrome so therefore my heart races at random. I really wanna lose about 20 lbs and have heard wonderful things about ace. Any suggestions?
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I've been taking ACE for a few months now too. I haven't really experienced any weight loss except for the first week, but my appetite has suppressed and my energy level has increased a lot. Overall, I am happy with this product and will continue to use it simply for the energy any weight loss will be bonus!
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If you need help sorting through the maze of health supplements, my MD. does free phone consults. It might be a good idea to discuss it with a Dr. She uses 100% natural supplements that help resolve the issues your body is facing rather than weird chemicals. Just an idea.
If it is going to be it is up to me!!!
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Well said!
You don't have to go looking for love when it's where you come from. Werner Erhard
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I took ACE back in Wisconsin last year solely for the energy. Being a nurse, working crazy hours, busy family, lack of sleep, unhealthy eating, you name it. ACE stands for Appetite Control and Energy. Weight loss was just an awesome bonus for me. It gives me so much energy; I hardly know what to do with myself. For those working crazy shifts and/or have a busy life with kids and whatever else, it's just awesome in providing focus, energy and appetite control. And for those who have a sedentary existence (like me right now), it is giving me focus and helping me from being depressed and unmotivated, in addition to the other positives that I previously mentioned. For me, I am not totally focused on the weight loss part. I had stopped taking it for a while and then I spoke with Amy a couple of weeks ago about being depressed (life's trials and tribulations that I haven't really shared over Facebook)...not being able to get out of bed, depressed, crying all the time, blah blah. She said, "Jen, you know what you need!??" I was like, DUH! and ordered ACE again that very day. Now that I am taking ACE again, I am ME again. It is just fantastic! So really, I couldn't care less about losing weight. For me, weight loss is just an awesome side effect. I want my wonderful self back for good! I’ve been out of bed each and every day with a smile! All day long, every day. with no tears, no whining, no depression, none of that crap. I am not out to "sell" anything, I just want everyone to feel as good as I do from ACE. And that's the honest to God truth. There are no quick fixes with anything in life but ACE has given me the boost and motivation that I need in my mission for health and wellness. There will always be skeptics but I've seen firsthand awesome results and testimonies from people in my life.
Edited by: JENNY32WI at: 2/8/2013 (12:58)
"I believe in pink. I believe that laughter is the best calorie burner. I believe in kissing. I believe that happy girls are the prettiest girls. I believe that tomorrow is another day and I believe in miracles." -- Audrey Hepburn
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ACE is naturally sourced from natural products, not "all-natural", there is a difference. ACE is a natural product that produces amazing results for it's customers; I know, I am one of them. Being educated on a product is key, not reading random opinions on the internet. If people have any questions, they should seek out a distributor who will provide documentation from Saba and Clark Bertram.
"I believe in pink. I believe that laughter is the best calorie burner. I believe in kissing. I believe that happy girls are the prettiest girls. I believe that tomorrow is another day and I believe in miracles." -- Audrey Hepburn
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A friend wanted me to take it. I declined, also don't use herbalife or advocare or isogenix. My friend has lost 8 lbs since monday I Just saw on FB. I am sorry but that big of a weight loss to me isn't healthy. So props to you if you enjoy it and it works for you and it gets the job done and your doctor supports you, but for me natural whole foods and exercise in a variety of ways and TIME .... is what this girl does. I am going to add that if I ate less than 1200 calories or barely 1000? I know my body would shut down and I would be slowly killing myself. Been there done that ... my body responds much better by actually eating food and the right range of calories At least 1800-2600 a day. Yup big gap lower end on days I do barely anything and just need to meet my BMR and days when I work or workout more than just my job I eat the higher range.
Edited by: BALDWINCHICK at: 1/25/2013 (09:58)
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I am not a distributor and if you read my blog on here you will see I've tried many things to lose weight. I've been taking ACE for 3.5 months and have lost 23 lbs. It definitely curbs your appetite, fights cravings and yes, it makes you ridiculously thirsty so you drink tons of water. Yes, I watch what I eat but the ACE makes it much easier to do so. I don't think its a miracle but it is definitely a booster for me to stay on track. Looking at the ingredients, it seems to be like phentermine but in an much cheaper over the counter version. ACE works for me.
Michele
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I started taking ACE last Thursday and so far I really love it (and NO, I am not a distributor). I have lost over 3 pounds in just 4 days. I have been counting calories and working out a little but I really give all the credit to the ACE. I have a terrible problem with sugar cravings, especially at night, but since I have been on the ACE, I have had to force myself to eat to get up to 1200 calories on most days. I simply have no desire to eat nor the crazy sugar cravings that I used to have. I started taking it with my Dr's blessing and have had no negative side effects so far. So whether it's placebo affect or not, I don't care. It has been the jump start that so desperately needed. One of my co-workers is starting it on Wednesday. I can't wait to see what kind of results she has!
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Honestly, I love ACE so much I've become a distributor! It makes me feel good, gives me energy and curbs the appetite. My doctor gave me the go ahead and in all honesty, that was all I needed to hear. Everyone has their own opionion in regards to dietary supplements and it's each persons own choice. If anyone is interested in learning more about ACE, feel free to send me a message and I will do my best to give you all the info I can!
Amber SW: 190 CW: 187 GW: 130 "Believe it, Be it!" Ali Vincent "If you fail to plan, you plan to fail"
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It is as if some people have never heard of a placebo effect. Or, that they themselves are immune to it because they are "logical" thinkers. Right before I lost a bunch of weight, I read George R. R. Martin. Therefore, reading Martin's novels causes weight loss. See how it works?
If you bring forth that which is within you, that which is within you will save you. If you do not bring forth that which is within you, that which you do not bring forth will destroy you.
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I have always been stuck at 128lb and have tried for years to lose just a few more pounds but even working out 5 days a week and 1200 calorie diet I still couldn't budge another pound. Anywho, I started taking the supplement just a few days a week mainly for the energy when I was really dragging. The first few weeks I dropped 5 pounds. It's the most amazing difference ever. My clothes have never fit better. I can't seem to lose anymore on this stuff though. I'm totally okay with that. Try it if you want...or don't. It's your body, your money and your motivation. I don't take it much anymore and haven't gained any back....(famous last words). Hope this helps.
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I just recently started using ACE. I was dragging butt and not sleeping very well. I had lost 50 lbs and HCG last yr, but can't bring myself to do it again. I gained all my weight back because of depression. I couldn't bring myself to exercise, because I had NO energy. I started ACE a month ago. I love that I am not having huge cravings and have cut my eating down considerably. I, also, have gone back to eating more healthy. I drink tons of water, instead of consuming Pepsi, which I did for the caffeine. The effects of the ACE are more level than the effects of drinking tons of pop, plus an added benefit of no more carbs and sugars from the pop. I have the energy I was lacking, although, I haven't really gotten myself back into the exercise routine. I am shocked at the negativity of people anymore. Dietian or not. It is helping to curb the appetite and gives you the energy TO exersice. If it works for you-then DO IT!!. The energy is amazing and lasts all day long. The cravings are gone, and I feel GREAT!! I haven't lost a huge amount-YET- but now that school is back in session and my life is on a even keel, I plan on exercising. Scam or not, I love it and will gladly pay another $60 to my distributor to feel this great again in the coming months, so that I don't overeat and feed my energy with pop. To each his own, but have an open mind. If it works for some people then encourage them-don't put them down. I was under the impression that is what Sparkpeople was all about-but I wonder with everyone's post on this topic. Shame on you!! Good luck to my fellow ACEr's!! May we all lose more weight and be proud of ourselves! Kudos to all of you!!
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Brittanyyhope, please be cautious when using the advice of a person whose first act here on Sparkpeople is come here and promote a supplement. There's no reason you should trust an anecdote from someone who joins a site potentially just to promote something, especially when the overwhelming majority of people who have posted here have been quite clear about the complete and total lack of evidence regarding these pills doing *anything*
Heather Writer, mom, runner (ish), and computer addict. Still trying to run my first 5k. I'm not pregnant, just fat: My blog. fatnotpregnant.blogspot.com/
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I needed to add my 2 cents. When I was a huge sparker and spent most of my time on the site (right now I am off the wagon and need to get back on, but that is a whole other post) I turned to my doctor, pharmacist, and friends for help. I had hit a wall and was desperate to find anything that could help me get past the hump. I calorie cycled and strength trained and adjusted my cardio. I poo-pooed anyone who used weight watchers or went on Adkins. I was a spark snob. I spent so much time on this website and others trying to get past the hump. Diet and exercise was the only answer and anyone who tried anything else was going to gain the weight back...haha to them. But after gaining most of my weight back, I also realized that sometimes you need a little help from your friends. My friends were my doctor and pharmacist. Did you know that there are special effects that can "nudge" your system? Chromium can help as an appetite suppresant. Cinnamon helps with insulin stuff. Fish Oil helps with the dry skin and scalp that you get when you don't have as much fat in your diet. Multivitamin helps with all the vitamins you may be missing out on if you are eating diet food instead of fruits & veggies. And, I am sure that B vitamins do stuff, but I haven't asked my friends. None of these things will do it all on its own. There is no magic bullet. But, I will tell you this, it is time for us spark snobs to understand that different things work for different people. As long as it is safe and your doctor supports it, try it. I probably did more damage to myself by not believing in products that are out there to help you. I am in the middle of researching this product myself as an aid or a kick start. It is understood that these products are not a solution on their own. Honestly if you watch any program about weight loss, even the magic cookie diet tells you to add diet and exercise with the cookie. duh. Take a trip to your local CVS, Walgreens, or Dougies Drug Emporium and check out the ingredients in most weight loss supplements. Most are the same thing with different variations, chromium, cinnamon, caffiene, B23242, or whatever. Even take a minute to speak with the pharmacist. They will tell you that most of them are similar. If you want weight loss and health to stick with you the rest of your life then you need to change your lifestyle and not diet. If you need a kick in the pants to get you started or get through a plateau, use a style that works for you. Don't give up and don't give in and most importantly be supportive to your co-sparkers. There is no right answer, only a right direction and even then you may have to kick a few weeds out of your way to get through.
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Thanks for sharing!
The study you shared was published in 2006 and was for a supplement that contained both ephedra and caffeine (not just caffeine).
Realize that in 2006, the sale of ephedra-containing dietary supplements became illegal in the United States because of the high risk of ephedra-related adverse medical complications and death.
Things that promote weight loss, aren't always safe.
Becky
Edited by: DIETITIANBECKY at: 5/30/2012 (14:26)
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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16552410 forgot to post this with last post
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RD Becky: I ready the artical you put up, but this one i found on the same web site kind of contradicts that one. What do you think.
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I respect the rights of adults to select the foods, beverages and supplements that they choose to take. However, it does not give them the right to make "health claims" that are not supported by sceintific evidence. If anyone following this thread really wants to know what the "most recent" evidence shows regarding weight loss supplements....then check out this abstract. Notice the last sentence regarding caffeine and weight loss...you will see the word "avoid" used. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22465867 Registered Dietitian Becky
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I did a little more searching on this. It's another pyramid marketing scheme, and it seems to be an especially vicious one. Any discussion of it on an open forum brings a swarm of distributors using extremely similar words to talk about how wonderful it is. It's caffeine, and it costs sixty bucks a bottle. That's pretty much the definition of scam; a product that doesn't do what it claims and is made from ingredients that could be bought in a grocery store for much less. If you want caffeine, drink tea or coffee. It's a tiny fraction of the price, you know how much you're getting, coffee and tea are whole foods with antioxidants and polyphenols, and you don't have to worry about who has your credit card information.
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I recently started taking ACE and I will not claim that it makes the weight fall off, however it does exactly what I need it to do. It gives me energy without jitters, takes away my cravings and minimizes my appetite (which is usually uncontrollable) and also makes me thirsty so I drink tons of water. I did take the pills to my doctor yesterday who said that she had no problem with me taking them and would not advise against them unless someone had high blood pressure issues. So, for anyone that needs something to help you this definitely works. You still have to do your part too :-)
God gave me a healthy body, it's MY job to take care of it!
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I never say that coffee gives a person energy either. Nor do I say drink coffee for weight loss. Coffee contains caffeine, caffeine is a stimulant. And as a stimulant you may feel more awake when using it. But true energy for the body "only" comes from foods that provide calories--protein, fat and carbohydrates.
So what is a scam... any product that makes a health, nutrition or weight loss claim that is not supported by scientific evidence. And this product fits everyone of these. There is not research showing a health benefit, or a nutrition benefit or a weight loss benefit for this supplement. That is why this Registered Dietitian reports it as being a myth and a scam.
SP Dietitian Becky
Edited by: DIETITIANBECKY at: 4/14/2012 (09:06)
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Well, some of us (myself included) need a little kick in the ass, and I personally have found that this supplement gives me energy and makes me not hungry. As I do not see anything unsafe in it-- I don't understand why a nutritionist would say it is a scam. If it works, and it's safe-- why not? Some people drink coffee for the caffeine-- that makes me jittery, but this doesn't.
Denise "Do or do not- there is no try." Master Yoda
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You are proving that ACE does not work. Eat right and exercise for 4 months many people lose more weight than that. I have lost 35 pounds at the same time without using this junk. Please provide us some science from cited sources so we can discuss.
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"i can produce any information you need on it." Peer-reviewed, double-blind, controlled studies published in juried medical journals? If you can produce those, then no one will "attack."
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I will put my 2 cents in from a different perspective. I eat healthy and work out and hit an area where no matter what I did I could not lose weight. I have been on ACE for 4 months. I still eat right and exercise. i have lost 20 lbs and 2 pants sizes. I have cleared it with my doctor. Sometimes just eating right, dieting and exercise is not enough.It is not a scam, i can produce any information you need on it. Now feel free to attack.
Edited by: KATI81 at: 3/5/2012 (11:46)
Kati
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Dear SAB_DLB, Weight loss occurs when one takes in fewer calories than one is burning through metabolic rate, their daily activity and planned exercise. It has nothing to do with green tea extract, cocoa powder, and B vitamins, etc, etc.
While I respect your right as an adult to treat your body as you wish, it is also my responsibility as the Registered Dietitian for our Sparkpeople site to keep our site safe for our members and the nutrition information accurate and based on scientific research.
SP Dietitian Becky
Edited by: DIETITIANBECKY at: 12/6/2011 (19:47)
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Becky said it best--- "None of those ingredients have any evidence to support weight loss claims. BASICALLY a big SCAM! Save your money. Dietitian Becky"
“We cannot change the cards we are dealt, just how we play the hand.” ~ Randy Pausch "There's a difference between interest and commitment. When you're interested in doing something, you do it only when circumstance permit. When you're committed to something, you accept no excuses, only results." ~ Art Turock "We have a saying in Tibet: If a problem can be solved, there is no use worrying about it. If it can't be solved, worrying will do no good." ~ 7 Years in Tibet
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Welcome to SparkPeople - a site dedicated to healthy eating and exercise. Read down a little further in the post. The Spark Registered Dietitian refers to A.C.E as a scam. This site has great information about nutrition and fitness. I encourage you to check out the articles here.
~Cindy ~ "Jesus Knows Me, This I Love!"
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The previous poster has 1 post and it's to defend A.C.E. Hmmm... If you've entered all of your information here and you're working out regularly, you may find that 1,200 calories isn't enough to sustain what you're burning. Before you spend your money, you might try aiming closer to the middle of your range. Or try a little calorie cycling - 1,200 one day, 1,400 the next, etc. As already suggested, try changing up your calories burned. I hit a plateau for six weeks where I didn't lose anything, so I added in strength training and increased my calories and started losing again within a couple of days. Also, are you prepared to be on this supplement forever? Why not try something you can sustain once you've lost the weight?
~Cindy ~ "Jesus Knows Me, This I Love!"
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Britneyfaith - you do not gain back all weight you've lost with just one "unsuccessful day", as you put it in an earlier post.....your body just doesn't work that way. It sounds like you might be weighing yourself too often--once a week is the usual, I'd suggest even once every other week.
Have you entered all of your data into Spark and let it set a calorie range for you? If not, check it out....you might be over/undereating and not even know it.
Try focusing on your diet....are you HONESTLY tracking everything, in its proper quantity? Diet is the largest factor in weight loss, and that's where the lifestyle change must come from.
Do you change up your cardio every once in a while? Up your intensity, or try something completely new. Your body might just need a good shakeup to get things going again.
Do you strength train? If not, start!!! Strength training will do a lot to change your body composition and keep muscle loss to a minimum while you're trying to lose weight.
Good luck!
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None of those ingredients have any evidence to support weight loss claims. BASICALLY a big SCAM! Save your money. Dietitian Becky
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Well, the effect of green tea on metabolism is actually pretty minimal. Why not buy yourself some actual tea? At least you'll know that what you're drinking is actually tea and you won't spend a fortune. The problem with supplements is that a very large proportion of them don't actually contain what they say they do, or the amounts they say they do because they're not regulated in any way. I used to be a sucker for these things in my late teens, until I learned better (and took some biochem classes).
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Eating 1200 calories a day and working out regularly you'll likely see exactly the same result whether you take the supplement or not. There's a reason all diet pills have a small print 'eat less' disclaimer, you know.
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Hello! I was wondering if anyone could tell me if they've had experience with the Natural A.C.E. Diet Supplement Pills? At first, I was concerned about their safety, but everyone claims they are very safe and effective. People are losing weight really well while taking them. They have natural ingredients such as: Green Tea Extract, Dark Cocoa Powder, B Vitamins, Chromium, and others. There are no chemicals and no ephedra. It is supposed to give you lots of energy and help control your appetite. I am hoping that, mixed with eating 1200 calories a day, working out regularly, and taking this supplement, that I will see good and consistent weight loss. Any opinions on this? Has anyone else had good results while taking Natural ACE? Thanks in advance!
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