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PHISTRY1108
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12/23/09 11:36 A

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I don't think she is a great mom ...i think she is average mom who is a touch on the self centered side. she believes she is an example of good mothering ..my wife and I have 5 kids we are doing it on our own no help from anyone there a lots of large families who do it with no external help she has always had nannies and other such help and all kinds of freebies I find the whole thing insulting to all the large families who have to do it alone that she gets to write books and make millions as a supposed authority



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TRINIKA1
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12/21/09 4:28 P

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No I don't think she is a bad mother in fact I think she is a good mother unlike Octomom.



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12/15/09 1:55 P

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She isnt a bad mom but putting the kids on TV may cause problems in the future.



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12/11/09 4:52 P

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i dont think we should be judging. we are all imperfect. we all make mistakes!!!!



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11/14/09 7:03 P

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I think they both made mistakes and hopefully things turn for the better.



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11/14/09 2:19 P

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I don't necessarily think either one are bad parents. Kate seems like she's a pretty good mom but she didn't appear to be very nice to her husband (if you look at her body language, she would roll her eyes at him a lot and speak to him w/ her arms crossed over her chest, both are warning signs). As far as Jon is concerned he was really passive on the show which can cause problems too. But as far as his parading around, how would you look if you were a single parent and you went on a trip to unwind while the kids were with the other parent?

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11/6/09 8:36 P

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Even if I wanted to judge - how to do it? Not only are we away from the actuality of it, but we know we can't trust the lens we are having to view things through. I mean, most of my life, if a man does something, he is forcefull and authoritative but if I do the same thing, I'm a bitch. Where does that leave Kate, poor thing?

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11/6/09 11:22 A

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Kate already knew the statistics on the break up of marriages with multiples. Although it was a shock, I'm sure it was not a total surprise that the broke up. I just hope the kids are okay and the parents can find a way to get along for the kids sake. Most children of divorced parents can fair better if the parents can work out the little things like visitation and holidays. In order to do that they have to communicate.



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MDEANG
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11/4/09 10:15 P

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Kate is a good mom who loves her children and does what she feels is best for her family. No, she is not perfect, but who is? The whole reality show started because they needed the income. Having young children, let alone eight of them, puts stress on any relationship. It's too bad that "Jon and Kate" couldn't survive the stress.



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11/4/09 9:52 A

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I think that I agree with whoever said that there are two sides to a story. For a very long time, they have made alot of money off of their children. Kate needs to realize that yes she is a single mom now but she has alot of help. she is not the first, nor will she be the last.



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11/4/09 8:33 A

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I make my own decisions about people, and from what I've seen over the years, Kate's first priority has always been her children. Nobody is perfect, I think she's done her best for them and herself. There's always two sides to every story, and the truth in between, and Jon is currently showing his true colors -- imagine what she's had to live with for years, no wonder she was so strong and outspoken.

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LEIGHRUNT
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11/2/09 5:15 P

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Its the media you cant beleive it all... Look at Britney... Jon and Kate both have issues. But she needs to get out of the media and focus on her children not herself and a big paycheck. Take some time live a little lean and focus on what she needs to. I have had enough of them



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11/2/09 4:59 P

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i dont think it's for us to say, the media will make her look a good mum one minute, and a bad mum the next......i dont think we will ever know what really goes on to make a fair decision



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10/31/09 9:07 A

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I think both Jon and Kate are bad parents for putting their children in the spotlight like that. Between the cameras following them around and their parent's very ugly and very public break up, those kids are going to be totally screwed up. As for Kate personally, who knows because we see select parts of her life, and for crying out loud, the woman has 8 kids, who wouldn't be stressed? I think that the show ruined the whole family though because if you watch the film they have from before these two were famous, Kate wasn't at all like what she is now. To me, she seems kind of cold.

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10/31/09 8:18 A

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i dont really like kate she is an ok mom. she is always yelling at her husband and never letting him talk and the kids seem way happier with him .. more relaxed.



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BISHWOMAN89
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10/30/09 3:25 P

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I think she is a good mom. I cannot even imagine having 8 kids.



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10/30/09 8:49 A

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Kate seems be more normal then my Mom, I would say she's an ok Mom. As for her X-Hubby, I think his insane. emoticon emoticon



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9/18/09 8:52 A

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I think it is hard to tell. The media puts so much "extra" into stories. I agree, we should not judge. At the same time, they have put themselves out there for the world to judge.



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MALLYGAL
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9/17/09 4:55 P

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I am not one to judge another person or state how they should raise their kids but to me it doesn't seem that they are really passing a good message to their children. I mean Tv show the trips, the stuff its not reality. Granted that is how they are being able to support their 8 children they should make it less about the trips and their marraige and more about the kids. Its a bit selfish and is showing the kids that material things are more important.



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9/17/09 4:44 P

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I don't think she's a bad mom. At least she is taking care of the children instead of running around partyin with younger people and such. hah...

but who knows what is true and what's not. We only hear...we don't personally know either of them.



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MOMMYOFONEBOY
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9/9/09 1:32 P

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I was really saddened to see what became of the Gosselin family. I used to be a huge fan when the family seemed to be more "real" and did normal everyday things. Then it just seemed to be about getting more and more (trips, publicity, etc). They used to portray that they were a Christian family, but being a Christian I don't think this is the right image to advertise. All of that being said...no I don't think Kate is a bad mother. Those kids have always seemed to be well cared for and happy for the most part. I couldn't imagine having that many children especially with them being multiples. I don't think she was probably the best wife though. I think she just had a very strong personality and very demanding and Jon finally grew a voice for himself.



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9/9/09 10:40 A

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Maybe its the media, but I don't like the way she talked to her husband. I know I feel like yelling some days, but she had a derogatory tone a lot of the time and would boss him around... when you aren't making joint decisions, etc... it undermines things... they weren't on the same side of things for awhile I don't think. I don't think a lot of men would have liked being talked to the way she talked to her husband. I wouldnt and I am a woman.

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9/9/09 10:15 A

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Why judge her? Do you have 8 kids, on camera, and a trouble relationship? Someone should step in and help them try to salvage their relationship because I remember when they were into each other. It's unfortunate that this is happening in front of all us.



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9/9/09 10:03 A

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Most likely not. Remember as a mom we all have bad days too where you "yell all day" or at least you feel like you do. Especially at this age.

It is tv too as many of us have already pointed out. You get in front of the camera for reality or as a star and there you go. Everything you do is critized.

I do not see her beating her kids (or that would be shown) or neglecting her kids either. I am a firm believer that we each mother differently and I refuse to judge her on those differences.

In very short, No she is not a bad mom.

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9/9/09 7:21 A

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We only see what the media, and the shows producers, wants us to see.

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9/8/09 10:22 P

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It's impossible to know, I can't see the huge fascination with their troubled relationship. I think if it weren't for all the public attention they'd be able to work it out but because everyone's all over them and who they're with and blah blah blah it's like, COME ON they're human, they have marital problems. Who doesn't emoticon have a rainy day, week or month in a relationship sometimes.



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9/8/09 8:24 P

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I personally love Kate. I've seen every show. I don't believe everything I read. However, Jon's interview with Today was not pleasant. I'm not on either side because I'm not in their situation but I don't think he should have said the things he said. Kate has not once "bashed" him in great detail the way he's going about it. It's sad and unfortunate. However, I believe Kate is a good mother. Life throws us stressers.

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PERSKIHOUSE
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9/8/09 6:53 P

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I don't feel like she is a bad mom, I don't even think she was a bad wife. I think she was a very bossy outspoken wife, and that is hard to live with. But this is only my opinion. I don't know her, I only watch the show.



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9/8/09 12:15 P

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I have to admit I don't watch the show.. i saw it twice and didn't like what I saw..I'm not judging either parent. These 8 kids have 2 not just 1 parent...
I worry about the kids.. Not the parenting per say but the fact that they are on TV... I grew up in a family and their were 7 of us kids and kids make mistakes and have bad behavior and trust me my siblings tell me about mine all the time..lol...but I can't imagine the kids living their lives in front of the world! Making their mistakes...even minor ones... they'll come back and haunt sometimes...Adults can put theirselves in any situtaion they choose but kids should be kept secure. not plastered all over the world...child stars are always having troubles... what is going to happen to these 8 children... sorry not a fan. jmo

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I think its hard to judge her based on what we see in the media. There is a huge chunk of Kate's life that we, the public, are not seeing, and I've watched Jon and Kate Plus 8 almost since the beginning and I've noticed it getting worse and worse and honestly I don't think its Kate getting worse, but the editors choosing to show the bad parts for more drama. Look at reality TV in general - human interest doesn't sell anymore, its all about DRAMA DRAMA DRAMA! I used to be a fan of the Real World on MTV back when it was just about different people living together and working together and now its all about sex and drama and more sex and alcohol and more sex and more drama.

The media is always judging celebrity moms - I remember a few years ago when everyone was on Brittany Spears about being a bad mom and honestly - how many first time moms can say they didn't make some mistakes. My sister and I were both dropped as babies and we turned out fine and no one criticized my mother for it - but had she been a celebrity, she would have been criticized left and right and called a bad mother.

I think Kate is trying to do the best things possible for her children. As far as their marriage - if you've watched the show and know their story, I think you could see it coming - they got married young, started a family young, and had the sextuplets young before they got a chance to really enjoy being young and married. Jon's going through his wild 20s right now, even though he's in his 30s, because he didn't have time to be wild and young because he got married and started a family in his early 20s. I'm not criticizing young marriage, but when you have a situation where you've got 8 kids by the time you're 24 or 25, that's a lot to take on when you're still growing up yourself.



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9/8/09 12:46 A

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Someone has to be in charge! They efit the show to make her look worse than I believe she is.



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I have never seen the show so I have no idea what kind of mother she is. I do think its a shame for those kids to have their lives ( and the parents) displayed like that. I guess we all make choices. I wonder how the parents will explain their choices to those kids when they grow up and watch the re-runs.

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9/6/09 6:28 P

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I don't know how anyone can judge how well she mothers!

All we see is what the editors choose to show us.

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If you are in the media they either hate you or they love you. Right now they hate Kate. I don't think I would look good raising my family in front of cameras.



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I don't have television and only "know" the Gosselins through my dd, who used to watch the show. I think it's terribly sad, all that's happened with that family and worse that they've had to go through it in front of a TV camera.

All I can say is that no one would be able to do any better if our whole life was displayed for public scrutiny and comment. If she were a "bad" mother, then social services would step in. She's a mother of a large brood--and now a single mother whose husband left her for another woman. Who wants to live with all of that on national television? I'm not going to pass judgement on her~



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The media makes Kate look like a bad mom. Do you tink she is that bad of a mom??



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