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8/12/13 11:04 A

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I agree here. Can't set PRs forever. They become harder and more monumental the further along you get. I think the problem that the author postulates is that speaking the goal publicly promotes a higher abandonment rate. I can see this, but maybe it's not the actual speaking that causes the higher rate, maybe spoken goals are large goals that are aggressive and/or not well planned out. You can witness it here. I've found the people with "goals" of "losing 50 pounds" to have a higher rate of failure (in my witnessing) because the goal is weak, plan is weak and therefore extremely difficult to stick to and see through. Setting a PR race goal was, as you put yourself, thought out, planned, executed. While not successful (this time), you saw it through and did it, which, in my opinion is a success. You'll probably take what you've learned, identify things that may or may not have worked and formulate a new plan to set a new focused and calculated goal.

I feel like I'm being verbose and that there may be a more succinct way of communicating what I'm after here. Maybe it is that weak goals with low measurement need selling to oneself. Part of the selling process is telling other folks, perhaps for encouragement or accountability. Having to tell someone is just a byproduct of a sucky goal is my postulation.

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8/12/13 10:51 A

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There is a big school of thought out there to suggest that stating a goal publicly is motivating because you don't want to miss the goal and admit failure.

But it depends on the goal- in my case, my goal was a PR. For my personal circumstance, a PR is a PR- as in personal best record time in a race! So that was aiming for the "stars" in my personal universe. Not easy to set personal bests, whether it be race, lifting, endurance, etc. Bests are bests.

I don't consider missing a PR a failure though, because I did train, eat well, and get the health benefit from the race itself.... I just didn't PR.

So, when it comes to more meaningful goals: weight loss, health, etc., then I think announcing your goal, like people do when they post their tracker, etc., is very helpful........





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8/6/13 3:42 P

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I think it depends on the person. I myself don't like to share my goals because then I feel obligated to meet those goals for that person. If something happens that I don't reach a certain level toward that goal that I need to reach, then it sometimes causes me to fail. I know that is a problem within myself that I must work on. But, I find it easier to meet my goals if I just tell others my goal is to become more healthy. Goals are extremely important and need to be met. But, I only want to be accountable to me if I fail to hit that goal. I can handle disappointing myself. But, no others.

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8/6/13 11:17 A

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Well, maybe I'm tricking myself, because it seems when I really start getting into a groove (as I have recently), I always have a set back. This time I'm fighting a minor back strain and proceeded to spend my weekend hauling around stuff to make it worse. Now I'm out of commission completely (should be back in a week or less). Was in a groove last March and broke my toe.

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8/6/13 10:51 A

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I found telling people about my intermediate successes hindered my consistency. same problem, where I felt like I had "made it".



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8/2/13 11:23 A

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haha ... I saw that recently. It's funny, I don't really tell anyone about my goals that I know. I do put them on silly blogs and forums and it keeps me motivated. The reason I think this is true is because I have to come back and say whether or not I met them. When you tell someone in person, rarely do they come back to you and ask if you achieved them or not.

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8/1/13 1:46 P

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Trust me- my failing to set a new 5k PR for myself had nothing to do with this silly message forum! emoticon





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7/31/13 9:40 A

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http://www.ted.com/talks/derek_sivers_keep_your_goals_to_yourself.html

Apparently telling people about your goals makes you less likely to achieve them. I wonder if that is as true for fitness goals as it is for other goals.



 
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